Welcome to That Weewoo Show: a podcast where Ellen, Bex and Alice watch and discuss every episode of ABC’s TV show, 9-1-1.
In this episode we discuss episode 9 of the fourth season of 9-1-1, titled “Blindsided”.
Athena and the 118 race to save lives after a drunk driver causes a deadly pile-up on the freeway. Maddie goes into labor. Hen and Karen are devastated as they prepare for Nia to be reunited with her birth mother.
Content warnings for episode 4.09:
childbirth, foster care system, multi-vehicle car accident due to drunk driving with child at threat, multiple injuries and fatalities and minor character at threat.
Mentioned in this episode:
- The Montague Street Bridge in Melbourne (via Facebook)
- Bus collided with bridge in Manchester, UK (no fatalities)
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Episode Transcript
Maddie: [00:00:00] 9-1-1, what’s your emergency?
Ellen: Welcome back to That WeeWoo Show, a podcast where we watch and discuss episodes of the A B C show, 9-1-1. I’m Ellen.
Alice: I’m Alice,
Bex: and I’m Bex.
Ellen: Thanks to everyone who’s been listening to our season four episodes so far. We are more than halfway through now. We are getting through it. All right, so we’re up to episode nine, but before we start talking about that episode, Alice, can you remind us what happened last time?
Alice: Yeah, so last week on 9-1-1, Eddie reunited Ana and Christopher, while Buck was reunited with Taylor Kelly, and Chimney and Maddie made the decision to not have a home birth. That was their whole story last week,
Bex: unfortunately. Yes.
Alice: Um, also Hen and Karen found out that they had to give [00:01:00] Nia back, but you know, we’ll discuss more of that in this episode.
Bex: Indeed. This episode is called “Blindsided”. It originally aired on the 19th of April. And the official summary tells us that Athena and the 118 race to save lives after a drunk driver causes a deadly pile up on the freeway. Meanwhile, Maddie goes into labor, and Hen and Karen are devastated as they prepare their foster daughter Nia to be reunited with her birth mother.
And the triggers for this episode include childbirth, foster care system, multi-vehicle car accident due to drunk driving with child threat, multiple injuries and fatalities and minor character at threat.
Ellen: This was an amazing episode. I was on the edge of my seat the whole time. It was [00:02:00] amazing
Alice: I cried almost the whole way through. Oh my God, I’ve seen it before. I know what happens and yet I like immediately was like almost crying. I was like, what the hell?
Ellen: Yeah. It’s like it’s tense as. Incredibly tense the entire time.
Alice: Amazing return for the season. ’cause remember they had a break.
Ellen: Yeah. Considering what happened last week.
Alice: Yeah.
Ellen: Oh, this is the first after a break. That’s right.
Bex: Yep.
Ellen: The last episode was like four weeks ago, or five weeks ago or something.
Bex: It’s their spring premiere or something. Which is why we went from, um, Maddie being sort of discussing giving birth to her being 42 weeks pregnant. That was quite a time jump.
Ellen: Yeah.
Bex: Already ready to go.
Ellen: Oh yeah, she’s ready to pop. And she’s like, okay. So we’re starting out with Chim and Maddie, and we go through this a series of like little clips where Maddie keeps thinking that it’s, it’s time or, like Maddie makes a [00:03:00] noise. And Chim goes, “is it time?” And Maddie’s like, no,
Alice: I do. And the first one’s great because literally, Maddie makes a noise and Chim’s just like, I’m awake, I’m awake and rolls off the bed and roll and hits the floor.
Ellen: He falls right outta bed. I love that.
Alice: And he’s like, is it time? And Maddie’s just like, no. And just rolls over and goes back to sleep. And Chim’s just like, what the hell?
Ellen: Uh, I don’t know why she’s still waiting for it all to happen at 42 weeks. Like, isn’t that the end of the line usually? Like they just,
Alice: usually if like nothing is happening, then it’s fine. Like I know one of my friends, was induced because the baby was showing like some issues that, so they wanted to get him out. Whereas I was two weeks late ’cause I was just chilling and they were like, yeah, it’s fine.
When I started actually having issues, then they were like, okay, fine. And I ended up being an emergency C-section because inducing did nothing.
Ellen: Right.
Alice: But yes, 42 weeks is overdue, but as long as like mom [00:04:00] and baby are healthy, my like, because she is as Maddie’s mother helpfully pointed out because she is high risk I would’ve thought that they prob like would’ve induced her by now, but yeah.
Ellen: Yeah, I would have thought so too.
Alice: Um, I guess that’s not as funny.
Bex: So especially with her anxiety over not having Chim there, not having her doctor there, you, it would’ve made sense for the doctor to go, okay, fine, we will induce you on this specific date so that I can be there.
Ellen: Yeah.
Bex: But yes, then we didn’t get the humor of, you know, Maddie almost giving birth in the 9-1-1 dispatch center.
Alice: Yeah, it’s a very, like, it, it’s definitely a trope. Um, like you had Friends when Rachel was super pregnant as well and she was trying all the things as well.
Ellen: Oh yeah. And the other thing that I found funny about this episode, oh, we can talk about it later when she actually goes back to work, but by about the [00:05:00] maybe even 36 week mark. Like even pre before that I was like, I, I, I’m done. Like I can’t go to work anymore, even though my work
Alice: We’ll get into American healthcare when we get down to there, trust me.
Ellen: Oh yeah. But like my, I sit at a desk all day. It’s not like I actually move around much, but I couldn’t sit like on my chair for that long. It was hurting me and getting in and out on the train, obviously I had to get the train then.
Alice: Ooh. Um, oh, being on the train while pregnant would be awful.
Ellen: Yeah, it sucked. I hated it.
Bex: I remember one day I had to, I was the same. I would have to take the train into the city. I’d be at my desk all day.
Thankfully we had standing desks so I could shift from standing up to sitting down, um, and then train all the way back, and usually in heels. Um, and there was one particular day where the train was packed and nobody would give up a seat for me. So I stood. For an hour on the [00:06:00] train.
Ellen: Oh my God. That’s awful when you’re not pregnant.
Bex: I was in tears by the end of the trip.
Ellen: I bet.
Alice: Yeah. No, thank you. That’s awful. I can’t believe you wore heels while pre that, that No, I That sounds like a nightmare.
Ellen: That that’s like a, sounds like extra thing. Yeah. Yes.
Alice: Like I have a phobia of pregnancy as it is, but that sounds even worse.
Ellen: It’s, it’s a very uncomfortable time. Um,
Alice: meanwhile my dog’s been pregnant and, um, she was also quite uncomfortable at the end. Yeah. She told me
Ellen: Sure.
Alice: She didn’t have to work.
Ellen: Um, Maddie is having Braxton Hicks contractions the whole time, which is like false labor. Like you get some contractions, but they do, um, non, you know, finish. They don’t,
Bex: they’re not, they non productive contractions. They don’t actually do anything.
Ellen: Well, they, they help to move the baby down, I think, to get ready. In, but not actually [00:07:00] actively going to labor.
Bex: Um, I did find the, the scene where, um, it’s 42 days and three weeks pregnant and they’re in the car racing
Alice: 42 weeks and three days?
Bex: Yeah.
Alice: You said three weeks. It’s like, that’s a long time.
Ellen: Three weeks. Wow. Or 42 days in three weeks. No.
Bex: Alright, let’s try that again. Um, the scene, the scene where they’re in the car, Maddie’s 42 weeks and three days pregnant. Um, Albert is driving them to the hospital and Maddie’s just like, “Wow, I thought labor was gonna hurt more. This doesn’t hurt a bit. It’s not even that painful.” Only for them to get to the hospital and then immediately turn around and leave again, because today is not the day.
Alice: Yeah. It’s just Braxton Hicks.
Ellen: Yeah. Today’s the day. Today is not the day.
Alice: Yeah. So we, we go through like day by day, so. We have a caption that comes up saying like 42 weeks pregnant, and then 42 weeks one day.
Um, so the first day, Maddie [00:08:00] fully drinks a bowl of like spicy soup, and then is like, ooh. And Chim’s like, “Oh my God, is it time?” And Maddie’s like, “Yes. To pee again.”
Ellen: Um, oh yeah, there’s a lot of peeing when you then,
Alice: Then we go 42 weeks and two days and Maddie calls out to Chim and Chim’s like packing the hospital bag and he literally just like throws the onesie that he is holding.
He is like, “I’m coming, I’m coming. Is it time? Is it time?” And Maddie’s trying to do yoga on the floor and she’s stuck. Like she’s just stuck in a position and she’s like, “Get me up.” Um, so yeah, she says they’ve tried pineapple, raspberry tea, spicy foods, and now exercise. Um. And Chim’s like, what’s next?
And Maddie just goes “Sex,” and like throws his her shirt at Chim, and he’s like, “Why didn’t we start with that one?” oh, love them.
Ellen: Because when you are like 40 weeks pregnant, you don’t really feel like having sex.
Alice: That’s probably the last thing on your mind.
Oh. [00:09:00] Um, but yeah, so then 42 weeks and three days is Albert like driving them quickly to the hospital and it’s just Braxton Hicks. And then we get the title card. So yeah, the first, the whole first part is just great. It’s all just humor. Um, it’s all just Madney being Madney, which is great.
Ellen: Mm-hmm.
Alice: And then we go straight into the drama.
Ellen: Oh yes. The drama. This is like one of the most for the drama things this show has ever done this section
Bex: and that’s saying something.
Ellen: Yeah. Yeah.
Bex: So when we return from the title card, we are at DCFS. And Hen and Karen have brought Nia for an exchange or for her, um, supervised visitation with her birth mother.
Um, and so while the aide, Carly, who we’ve seen before, [00:10:00] takes a crying Nia out of the room to see her birth mother, um, Diedra talks to Karen and Hen about, or she wants to talk to them about scheduling overnight visits. Um, instead they end up out in the courtyard where Hen starts ripping into Diedra.
Ellen: This is like, okay, I can, I get where she’s coming from in the, the emotional side of it. Like, okay, it sucks that. This happens, but like I feel like maybe she should have known this already before, like when they decided to become foster parents.
Alice: Yeah. I feel like there should Like
Ellen: they knew this was like going to happen.
Alice: Yeah. Surely they have, when they sign up to be foster parents, surely they have to like have a talk and be like, you know, “re reunification is like what we aim for here.” It’s not just like,
Bex: well they must do,
Alice: we’re giving you a child on a trial run and then taking it back again. Like, that’s not how it works.[00:11:00]
Bex: Well because Karen is like quite upset through this process, but she is the one pushing back at Hen.
Ellen: She’s resigned to it. Like yeah.
Bex: She’s saying to Hen, “Look, this was like, we knew this was happening. This is the whole point of fostering.” Um, yeah. So, yes. So while Diedra and DCFS are working to reuni to, um, reunite Nia and her birth mother, um, Hen is pretty much trying to put her foot down to stop the process. Um, she wants to meet Nia’s birth mother to make sure that she’s safe for Nia to return to.
Alice: Yeah, no, that’s what, like, that’s what c
Ellen: that’s the department’s job
Bex: which is what Diedra says. And then Hen says, “Well, how do you know that, um, that she is safe? You know, we don’t even know why she would, why Nia was given to DCFS in the first place. Um, you know, was her mother, was she involved with [00:12:00] drugs? Was she abusive? Was she neglectful?”
And we get told that. This is not uncommon reaction from foster parents, especially in situations where the placement is for an extended period of time.
Apparently Nia was meant to be for a few months, but the pandemic made it even longer, which is why she’s been with them for nearly a year. Um, and so Hen goes, “So what are our legal options, you know, to adopt her.”
Alice: Yeah. Diedra’s like, “let me just stop you right there. Um, you’ve done an amazing job. I wish I had a dozen more foster families like you, but reunification is our main goal.”
Bex: And she pretty much tells Hen, look, you can stay outside and have your little tantrum.
I’m gonna go back inside. You can come in when you’ve calmed down and you’re ready to talk. Pretty much. Yeah. Yeah.
Alice: And yeah. Karen, sorry, I just back to the topic earlier. I just opened Facebook while you were explaining like the DFSS [00:13:00] thing and the first post on my thing was from a group. Um. Going, Hey, so no one tells you this, but there’ll be a time when you think your water has broken and you’ll be like, oh my God, it’s time. But it’ll be piss. And then you’ll have to say no. It’s just piss. Sorry everyone. I just pissed. I’m just like, that’s so relevant to what we’re talking about right now.
Ellen: Yeah. It’s not a fun time. There are a lot of fluids involved. Yeah. That’s great. Anyway, uh,
Alice: yeah, so Hen is like still going on and Karen’s just like, you need to calm down. Um, and Hen’s like “They’re tearing our family apart. How can you stay calm?” Karen’s like, “’cause this is what we signed up for.” Like, we knew this.
Ellen: Yeah. I feel like, uh, like Hen
Alice: I’m absolutely on Karen’s side this whole time.
Ellen: Yeah. I don’t wanna, so I don’t wanna say that she’s overreacting, but she kind of is overreacting. Like,
Alice: yeah,
Ellen: this is, this is out of character for her. Like, she’s not normally, so, [00:14:00]
Bex: see, my issue with this storyline is the fact that it’s Hen being the one that is having this reaction, because I feel like it’s an important conversation to have.
It’s important to show that foster families can get attached, but they shouldn’t get so attached because they accept they’re standing in the way of DCFS doing their job. And we have Diedra here doing a really good job of explaining all of the steps that get taken through the reunification process.
That they’re not just throwing the kid back at the birth mother and birth parents and going, okay, you know, best of luck. Yeah.
Ellen: Yeah. She says they’ve been working on it for months now. Yeah. To try and make sure that everything was fine for her to go back to her family,
Alice: you know, DCFS will continue to have visits, but that’s not the foster family’s job. The foster family is to provide a safe place for the child to land, not to judge the birth mother for whatever mistake she [00:15:00] made in the past.
Bex: I really, I really feel like… My issue with them giving this storyline to Hen is that I feel like that us as the audience, we should be looking at Diedra, we should be looking at Karen, we should be looking at Hen and we should be recognizing that Hen’s reaction is the wrong one.
And that when she says that giving Nia back is wrong, the entire audience should be taking a step back and going, oh, okay, you are, you are outta line. This is the wrong reaction.
Ellen: Mm-hmm.
Bex: My fear is however that because it is Hen and because it is Aisha and her level of performance and the emotions that she puts, that the audience is going to side with Hen and suddenly there are gonna be, yeah.
Alice: She’s also main character. So we are four seasons in, we’re attached to Hen.
Bex: So are we supposed to be looking at Hen and going, look, I love you but you are wrong on this one. Or are we supposed to be siding with Hen and going Yes. This [00:16:00] is wrong. They should be able to keep Nia, the foster system is broken in this aspect, and I think that’s a really dangerous storyline and a dangerous narrative to be pushing.
Alice: Yeah. I don’t like how they did this at all.
Bex: I’m really glad that all of us are on the board. We, we watched this episode for the first time and went, oh no, no, this is bad.
Alice: I feel like a better thing for them to do would’ve been to have Nia struggle with it. But like, I possibly they couldn’t get the, like, it’s hard to get a kid that young act like that, but like, I feel like Nia should have struggled with it and they could have had a discussion like sat down with Nia and had a discussion going, “you’re going back, like you’re going to, your mommy, uh, we’ll always be your family, but you know, this is where you belong. Um, we’ll always love you.” That sort of thing. Like it would make sense for Nia to struggle because she’s a tiny kid and she’s been with them for a year,
Bex: or if you are gonna,
Alice: but Hen’s an adult, she should pull it together.
Bex: If you are going to have an [00:17:00] adult doing it, then have Karen do it, because I don’t think that the audience is quite as attached to Karen because she is not main character.
Ellen: Yeah. And the other thing is she just had, uh, you know, uh, the trying to have a baby, like the, you know, process that she, that they went through
Bex: Yes.
Ellen: The IVF stuff and that was not successful. So, and then they went straight into this foster thing, so,
Bex: so it would make sense for Karen to have be clinging to Nia.
Alice: Yeah. To have that attachment.
Bex: Yes. I don’t know if that’s a bad storyline either, but I feel like that I could wrap my head around and justify that better than Hen doing it.
Ellen: Yeah. Yeah. No, you’re right. I agree.
Alice: Yeah. I’m not a fan of Hen’s reaction at all. Um,
Bex: no. Like, I, like I said before, I don’t like this storyline.
Alice: Yeah. No, I love the fact that they’re fostering. I think that’s fantastic. But they, I don’t like the way that they did [00:18:00] the reaction. Like they should have been upset. Absolutely. But they shouldn’t have done this.
Bex: Yes.
Alice: With Hen literally throwing a tantrum because the kids going back to her real mother. And I think,
Ellen: I mean, we also have to remember that she’s been through a lot of trauma with Denny. Like,
Alice: oh yeah, I was just about to bring up the same thing.
Ellen: The adoption stuff
Alice: I think lot of it’s, you know, Hen assumes that all mothers are gonna be like Denny’s mother’s mother.
Ellen: They’ve been already, yeah, that’s right.
Alice: But they don’t know that she’s, they, she may not have been a junkie. She may have been going through, um, domestic violence. Like there’s so many reasons that, you know, someone can go through this
Bex: also, that it can be voluntary.
Alice: That’s true.
Bex: Like you can just be in such a hard time that you cannot do what is best for your child. So you put your hand up and go, I need help. I need you to give my kid a safe space for a little while so I can get my shit together.
Alice: Yeah. And it’s not like, and so many foster families just do it for the money. So many do it for the wrong [00:19:00] reasons and you know, Nia was really lucky to land with Hen and Karen and even Diedra says that, but I hate the reaction like, oh no, she’s ours now. It’s like she’s not.
Bex: Yes. Like I said, you don’t foster fail kids.
Alice: No, exactly.
Bex: Fostering is not a do not pass go. Do not collect $200 straight to adoption. It is, you are there temporarily. That does not mean that there are, aren’t people who do end up adopting people that they have fostered, but that’s in extreme circumstances when there is literally, that is what is best for the child.
Reunification is not gonna work. Adopting them.
Alice: Well, they don’t have anywhere to go
Bex: another family is not gonna work. It’s best for them to stay where they are for their own mental and physical health.
Alice: And yeah, the whole point was that, you know, Karen saw a kid that needed help on Christmas and was like, oh, let’s be that help for kids. And then all of a sudden she’s like, no, I wanna keep it. And it’s like, that’s not [00:20:00] how it works.
Bex: It’s not really helping.
Ellen: Yeah. It, I, I think it’s just a weird, it’s out of place. Like, it’s a weird reaction to the whole thing anyway. Like, uh, they’ve been going through this process so well, so far. Uh, and now. It’s kind of all fallen apart. But anyway, we’ve got a lot to get through before we actually get to
Bex: No, let’s just
Ellen: them working it out,
Bex: talk about the foster system for like two hours.
Ellen: It’s okay. Anyway.
Alice: Fine. Speaking of trauma, yes.
Bex: Let’s bring up some more trauma. So we’re gonna cut to May, who is
Ellen: actually, I, I missed the start of this bit in the, in the episode when I was watching it, I didn’t see May…
Alice: I wasn’t paying attention to either. Um, yeah, she runs into Josh. That’s the main part that I,
Ellen: yeah. May steps outta the elevator, looking at her phone.
Alice: So May’s at work. Um, she’s in the elevator heading up for a shift and her phone chimes, so she pulls it out and sees that she has a friend request from Laila Creedy.[00:21:00]
Ellen: Yeah. So this is the girl that was like bullying her and in season one enough to,
Alice: yeah. So,
Ellen: you know. Try make her try and kill herself.
Alice: Yeah. So massively bullied her in season one. Um, Athena ended up arresting her on drug possession. It was a whole thing.
Ellen: Mm-hmm.
Alice: Um, and yeah, now she’s sent a friend request to May and May’s just like, what the hell? Like, why would she wanna talk to her? But also, like, this is another example of like whichever designer put the stuff on the screen, it’s like an iMessage popup. But then when May goes into it, it’s not a message, it’s like a profile, like a Facebook profile.
Ellen: Oh.
Alice: Um, but anyway, yeah. So May’s like, what the hell? Um, and then when the doors open, May walks out, but she’s still looking at her phone and she just walks straight into Josh. Um, and she’s like, she immediately starts apologizing. But yeah, Josh is like, “I’d say we’d need traffic lights there, but I’m pretty sure you’d have barreled through [00:22:00] those too. Like, are you okay?”
Because yeah, May’s just still like staring at her phone and she sort of gives like sort of an explanation to him. Like obviously she doesn’t wanna go into it a detail, but she’s like, “yeah, I just got this friend request from someone I used to go to high school with that caught me by surprise.”
And Josh’s reaction is the best though, because he’s like, “ah, a whole seven months ago how time flies.” Oh, I did laugh at that. I love Josh. Um, yeah. So I was like, “No, no. She transferred out a few years back after bullying me and making my life are living hell.” And Josh, who I’m sure has also been bullied in his time is like, “Do you want me to respond to her? I’ll, I’ll think of a few choice ideas of where you can stick her friend request.”
Ellen: May decide she’s gonna ignore it. She doesn’t, it doesn’t matter what she has to say.
Alice: It’s been three years. Doesn’t matter what she has to say anymore. And Josh’s like, yeah. Go girl.
Ellen: This is where Maddie’s gone back to work. And I’m just like, why are you there, Maddie? Why? Why are you there?
Alice: So then we, [00:23:00] then we cut to the break room and Maddie’s
Ellen: and, and Linda says exactly the same thing. Linda just goes, “you sure you should be working nights?” I’m like, yes, exactly.
Bex: No, I’m with Maddie. The staying up all night is, it’s good practice. ’cause you’re not gonna get any sleep once the baby’s there. She might as well, you know, slowly practice,
Ellen: not get any sleep before the baby’s there?
Bex: Yes. Because otherwise it’s too big of a shock when you go from, you know, a nice full eight hours to suddenly waking up every two hours or three hours if you’ve got a crappy sleeper.
Sure. So you may as well just not get a full night’s sleep beforehand. So you just, um, resigned to the fact that you’re not gonna sleep for the next, like, how old are they? 12 years.
Alice: Makes me very glad I stuck with dogs. Thanks. Um, but wouldn’t you wanna take the time now to sleep as much as you can?
Ellen: Yeah, that’s what I did. I was like, screw [00:24:00] you, I’m gonna sleep.
Alice: Um, Linda’s like, “You make me feel like I should be calling OSHA to report a labor violation,” and Maddie’s like, “Don’t say labor.”
Um, but yeah, she’s having contractions constantly, but she’s like, “oh, they’re not real ones. They’re just Braxton Hicks. I’ve been having them all week and every time I think something’s gonna happen, nothing happens.”
Bex: so Linda, um, changes the subject and asks if they have a name
Alice: and we get some more great Madney.
Bex: So Maddie makes this thinking face and we as the audience, we flash back to a previous day in time when Chim and Maddie were. Trying to think up names. It looks like they were going through a list. So Chimney’s on the couch, reading through names from Maddie to veto as she’s pacing back and forth behind the couch. And they’re all P names.
Alice: Yeah. So Piper, no Poppy. No [00:25:00] princess, no.
Bex: That’s a dog’s name.
Ellen: She’s just, yeah. She’s just giving them, giving him looks every for every one.
Alice: Yep. Priscilla? No. And Chim’s like, “Well, that’s it for the Ps.” And then Chim sort of starts asking her something else and then realizes Maddie’s gone.
And he is, she’s, he is like, “Where are you going?” And she’s like, “Well, now I have to pee.” And he is like, “Well, that’s not my fault.”
Bex: It turns out that Linda has kind of a, an ulterior motive in getting Maddie to pick a name sooner rather than later, because her mother didn’t pick a name for her little brother until they were in the hospital.
And she tells Maddie the story that, um, she ended up naming Linda’s little brother after the doctor that delivered him.
Alice: Yeah, they were, they were so thankful that,
Bex: and Maddie’s like, “oh my god, what did she name him?” And Linda just says, “Norman,”
Alice: which isn’t a bad name. Like it’s a bit old fashioned, but it’s not awful.
Bex: Unless, unless you know what Linda’s last name is, which [00:26:00] is Bates. Yeah. So this po there is an, there is a man walking around Los Angeles. There’s probably several of them, but we have a man walking around Los Angeles called Norman Bates. Um, yeah. Mm-hmm. And I’m hoping that,
Alice: for those of you who don’t know,
Bex: I’m hoping that everybody knows who Norman Bates is. But Norman Bates is, um, the protagonist from the Hitchcock movie, Psycho.
Alice: Would we say protagonist? Antagonist?
Ellen: And yeah,
Bex: Main character?
Alice: Evil dude?
Bex: Um, who was based on
Ellen: serial killer.
Bex: A particular serial killer. Was he the Ed Gein, was he based after Ed Gein, or is that another one? No idea. Uh, but basically, yeah, he was a, he was a serial killer.
He kept, uh, his mother desiccated corpse, like in the, in his house. Fun guy. Definitely, definitely wanna be named after him. So, yes. So that prompts [00:27:00] Maddie to fire off an angry text to Chim, demanding that they need to have a name.
Alice: Yeah. Literally just sends, we need a baby name now. And then, like a bunch of angry faces.
Ellen: Meanwhile, Chim is at work and he’s, he just asks the others, “Anyone got any ideas?” Yeah. And then, and then he turns around to Buck and Eddie.
Alice: Yeah. Are both going to like open their mouths and he is like, “Not any of your names.” oh. So it’s not gonna be Buckette or Ivana? Or Edwina.
Ellen: And Buck’s. Like, I thought you were gonna put names in a hat. And then it turns out they tried that. But, um, the only thing,
Alice: oh, this is the best. I laughed so hard.
Ellen: The only thing that was on the pieces of paper in the names in the hat when Chim opens, one of them is I, is it, “I don’t really wanna pick our baby’s name this way.”
Alice: Yeah. And Chim’s like, “okay, but that’s never gonna fit on her driver’s license.” And Maddie just leaves. She’s like, Nope. [00:28:00]
Ellen: Ah, she’s being very resistant to this whole naming process to be honest,
Alice: Nothing seems right. Um, but Eddie says that he and Shannon didn’t know what they were gonna name Christopher. Then they saw him and they knew, and Chim’s like, yeah, cool. Like, we’re, we’re way ahead of our skis here. So he texts Maddie, “meet her first?” With Maddie’s question marks.
Bex: Maddie’s. Maddie’s response is all caps. Norman Bates like five exclamation points. And Chim just looks up from his phone when he receives his text and goes, “I think she just called me a psycho.”
Alice: Yeah. Like he has no context for this, but he’s just like, what the fuck did you just call me? Oh, that’s great. Um, then Bobby turns up and Yeah, Bobby, what a great name for a baby. Um,
Bex: no,
Alice: and asks if Maddie’s still having false labor. And she was like, “yeah, I know kids are supposed [00:29:00] to test your patients, but I thought she’d at least wait until she was out of the womb.” Bobby’s like, “Well, at least you’ve well prepared for her arrival.”
Ellen: The waiting is the worst. Absolutely the worst.
Bex: I do love that. Um, Chim starts listing all the ways in which they’re prepared for baby’s arrival, and it includes freeze dried rations.
Alice: Yeah, so the normal stuff like baby toys, clothes, towels, blankets, supplements, but yeah, freeze dried rations,
Bex: which are in there apparently in case the hospital loses power. So they will have, how long are they gonna be in this hospital that they require rations?
Alice: Literally,
Bex: um, interestingly, while Chim and Bobby are having this conversation, Chim looks up to see that Hen is sitting in the locker room staring at her phone and yells at her pretty much to get her ass out and help him with restocking the ambulance.
Alice: Um, which they just did
Bex: apparently. But, um, Hen’s got her, uh, [00:30:00] pessimistic, uh, grumpy pants on because when Chim says to her, but yeah, you know, “Sure we might have just restocked her, but there’s no such thing as being too prepared.” She comes back with “Sure, like there’s any rhyme or reason for the crap life throws at you,” and walks off, which Bobby and Chim are just very confused.
Ellen: Oh, she’s in a great mood today.
Alice: Such a great mood. Chim’s getting it from all the women in his life today.
Ellen: Yeah.
Bex: So this isn’t a very, it doesn’t really segue nicely in either for the main, we just cut to
Alice: No, we just go straight into it. Yeah.
Bex: We go straight to a 9-1-1 call, um, where we hear a, a little voice asking whether this is the 9-1-1, the one that helps people.
Alice: Oh my God. Like I was already crying just at this part.
Bex: And [00:31:00] of course, the algorithm that handles the 9-1-1 calls realizes that this is gonna be a major, a major storyline. So they’ve routed it through to Maddie,
Alice: obviously.
Bex: Um, and we find out that this is Jacob and his mom is acting weird. They’re in the car, but, and he thinks that they’re lost, but his mom is not talking to.
Ellen: Yeah, I’m not sure. I, at first I thought she was having like some kind of a stroke or like a medical episode of some kind, because she’s not responding to him at all. But it turns out later she’s just drunk.
Bex: It’s interesting, they do a, a, they do a closeup of her face and then we get a cut from her point of view and she’s seeing double.
Um, yeah, which makes sense. Once you’ve seen the entire storyline and once you have seen the entire storyline, you immediately recognize the look on her face that this is someone who is very, very, very intoxicated. But at this [00:32:00] point, yeah, we have no idea what is actually going on. All we know is that,
Ellen: yeah, it just seems strange that she wouldn’t respond to him at all. Like,
Bex: and she is veering all over the road because she’s seeing cars, like she’s seeing double vision, so she’s trying to avoid the cars she thinks are in front of her, which are actually cars next to her. So,
Ellen: so Maddie tries to speak to Jacob’s mom by asking him to put the phone on speaker. So she’s trying to, you know, “Ma’am, this is 9-1-1. Like please pull over and we can send you some help.” But she just doesn’t even do anything. She just keeps on driving.
Alice: And poor Jacob’s pleading this whole time.
Ellen: Oh, he’s so upset. Amazing acting
Alice: like God broke my heart. Brilliant actor. Like this little kid, he’s tiny. Like they picked the, like the sweetest looking child to play this kid.
He’s like got these wide eyes and he’s got glasses. I feel like he’s got glasses.
Ellen: I think so? Yeah. That sounds familiar.
Alice: But yeah. Um, and like these wide eyes and just looks so [00:33:00] terrified and he’s doing just, just the best job at this and like, I’m like tearing up. I’m just like this poor little kid. Someone save him. Yes. Um,
Ellen: he’s so scared.
Bex: He’s very scared because at this point his mother, whose name we later find out is Rachel is actually starting to hit the other cars.
Ellen: Then they, Maddie asks him if she can, if he can see where they are and he says, “we’re getting on the freeway, but we are going the wrong way.” And then they start getting cars actually coming towards them and yeah, veering out of the way so they don’t crash head on and, uh oh, it’s terrifying.
Alice: It’s so, ugh.
Bex: Then we go to commercial. We come back to a series of 9-1-1 calls, all about what’s happening on the freeway. The first one we get, there’s a car on the freeway, it’s going the wrong, and then the call drops out, we get,
Alice: we get a bang, then the dial tone, [00:34:00]
Bex: we get a second call that Josh picks up that says that there is a car driving all over the road. He swears that the driver is blind. And then we see multiple other dispatchers receiving other calls relating to the same incident.
Alice: May gets one. Um, the rest of the dispatchers all get calls,
Bex: At which point Sue kind of takes over and, ’cause this is obviously a, like a going to be a mass incident because
Alice: Yeah, she, he like, they’re literally driving on the freeway going quickly against the traffic. It’s not a good thing. So Sue radios to LAPD and lets them know like roughly where it is. Um, Maddie’s still begging the driver to pull over immediately.
So Sue like, runs over to Maddie pretty much to help her out ’cause she’s obviously on the phone with the driver. She tries to get the freeway shut down. Uh, I guess they’ve tracked Jacob’s [00:35:00] call ’cause they have like the map up.
Bex: I’m not entirely sure how she knows exactly. There might be.
Alice: Yeah. ’cause she says to shut down the seven 10 North just after exit 43.
Bex: I’m gonna assume that other people have called in and have given exit numbers. So Sue was reading that as it’s coming through.
Ellen: Well maybe Jacob actually managed to see a sign and tell her roughly where they are. Yeah,
Alice: either way they know where Yeah it is. Um, and then this is where Maddie’s like her son’s with her in the car. His name’s Jacob and Sue. Radio’s going, please note there’s a child in the vehicle. Um, Jacob’s still pleading and I’m like crying and like covering my eyes.
Yeah. Um, because cars are just coming faster and faster. They’re swerving around, um, one car swerves to get outta the way and like spins around and finally they run outta luck and an airport shuttle bus comes straight at them and [00:36:00] just hits them
Ellen: They hit head on. Like, I’m, I was, I thought everyone was dead at this point. I’m just like, well, I guess that’s it. But no, they’re not dead. That we find out
Alice: it’s fine. 9-1-1 still in history has not killed a child in present day.
Ellen: So, but, but Maddie doesn’t know that. She hears that there’s been a crash.
Alice: No. Maddie’s crying like,
Ellen: and she is like, oh my God. They’ve finally had an actual crash, but then, then we get like a bunch of cars just running into the back of this bus and the pile up is massive.
Alice: Yeah. It just keeps going. Like the
Ellen: things are, things are exploding.
Alice: The car that ran into the shut, the airport shuttle starts like burst into flames somehow and it just, like, cars just keep hitting it. Like, how fast were these cars going? That they couldn’t leave a gap.
Ellen: Yeah. There were a lot.
Alice: Leave a gap.
Ellen: It felt like there were a lot of cars for, for slamming into, there were a lot of cars. It just keeps going.
Alice: Like they zoom out and it’s just, it’s so many cars. Yeah. [00:37:00] And leave a gap. Like I’ve seen a couple that have been like, you know, five cars, that sort of thing. But this is massive. Like it’s insane. But yeah, so the phone’s still on speaker, but Jacob and his mom are both unconscious and that’s where they pan over like so many cars all on fire, like it’s all awful. And so LAPD are on their way. Athena’s obviously part of it as well, and
Ellen: she’s heading into the thick of it.
Alice: When she gets there, the LAFD are already there.
Ellen: And Bobby’s, I assume she said she was gonna rendezvous with the incident commander and then she turns up and Bobby’s there and I’m like, Bobby’s the incident commander?
Or has she just zeroed in on him. I dunno. But
Alice: I think Bobby must be the incident commander because he’s the one that’s telling,
Ellen: he’s telling everyone what to do. Yeah. Isn’t, yeah.
Alice: Um, so yeah, when Athena gets there, he’s telling everyone to make sure that they stay [00:38:00] back until the cars have been de-energized and all the airbags have been checked to note for later
Ellen: de-energized.
Alice: Um, but yeah, so Athena asks “What’s the count?” And there’s three casualties so far and at least a dozen injured and they’re all very negative at this point. They’re like, oh, this because of one driver. This is the offending vehicle. Was like, yeah, what’s left of it? We’re like working on getting in there. They’re sort of not going very quickly.
Ellen: Yeah.
Alice: Athena’s like, oh, is there even anyone left to save? And Eddie says that no one’s speaking. They can’t see past the side of airbags, but they have picked up a heat signature. Um, so there’s definitely a live occupant. Occupant in the front and a smaller heat signature in the back. And this is where Jake, uh, this is where Athena is like, “Oh, dispatch says that they got a call from the driver’s son Jacob.”
And they’re like, “Wait, the kid’s still in the car?” And then they start racing. So it’s like, yeah, they at this point don’t know that the driver’s drunk. She could have just had a [00:39:00] medical episode and they seem to be like dragging their feet, getting her out. And I’m like, um,
Ellen: yeah, there was a, a weird tone to start with, wasn’t there? But
Alice: yeah, I was like this, I don’t know, it just rubb rubbed me the wrong way.
Ellen: They can’t get the door open because the, the top of the car is too bent. But they eventually get a saw and actually just cut the top of the car off.
Alice: Yeah, they do this, like the emergency services do this a lot, you’ll see. Um, ’cause my mom was in the SES and so she used to like work car crashes and when you see like a car crash on the news and stuff, like the car will look absolutely mangled.
But a lot of the time it’s just from the jaws and saws. Getting the OCC occupants out. So like, they’ll be like, oh my God, what a bad crash. And it’s just like, well it wasn’t had to like, it was bad.
Ellen: You had to rip the car apart to get them. Yeah.
Alice: Like they, the, the car didn’t lose its roof in the crash. The car lost its roof. Um, and yeah, when you know, like what signs to look for, it’s just like, ah, [00:40:00] it was just, ’cause it was like,
Ellen: not like that bus, I can’t remember where it was, I don’t think it was in London, but like one of those double deck, open top buses, like a tour thing and it went, it was off route and it went under a, a low bridge and the top of it just like peeled off like thankfully,
Alice: like a sardine can.
Ellen: Yeah, yeah. The people in the top there like all ducked down and it didn’t, no one was
Alice: oh, far out that’d be scary.
I
Ellen: think people were hurt, but they weren’t. No one died, but Yeah. Yeah. It looked incredible.
Alice: Holy crap.
Ellen: I can’t even remember what country it was in.
Alice: Yeah, we, we um, in Melbourne we have the Montague Street Bridge.
Ellen: Oh yeah. I used, used to see that one on social media sometimes
Alice: all the time. Like I have been under it several times. Um, ’cause it is in just like a main area. Yeah. Um, and I don’t know why they haven’t just like dug the road deeper to make the bridge
Ellen: small. Yeah. Because only like small kind of sedan type type cars can get under it.
Alice: Right. It’s like, like I’ve been under a four wheel drive, but
Ellen: 1.2 meters or something. It’s now, yeah. It’s tiny.
Alice: [00:41:00] It’s, it’s small. Um, and, but like it has flashing lights, it has um, like sensors and like it actually has physical things ’cause it used to just have sensors and people wouldn’t listen to them. So now it has physical things where if you drive underneath, you will hit it.
Ellen: Yeah. Yeah. Okay.
Alice: Before you get to the bridge and people still regularly manage to get under it and get wedged or sardine them like sardine the top of the truck off.
Ellen: Oh dear.
Alice: Um. Yeah, it’s always those like, you know, the little like hire vans or the little courier vans that are Yeah. People who dunno where
Ellen: they’re going.
Alice: Yeah. Like people who don’t actually need a truck license can drive them. Those ones.
Ellen: Yeah.
Alice: Yeah. Um, so yeah, they just don’t pay attention and go straight under. So yeah. Montague Street Bridge, um, foreigners have a look. It’s fun.
Ellen: I think every ev just about every country’s got one
Alice: probably. Yeah.
Ellen: But no, they take the roof off and they can see the kid. He’s still breathing. He’s all right. [00:42:00] Um,
Alice: I don’t know how they can see that he’s still breathing from where they are, but I don’t know. But he is still breathing,
Ellen: I don’t know, but Hen is magically diagnosing him with being alive. Um, yeah. And they can also see the driver and the car’s all, you know, mashed around her. But she’s okay.
She’s unconscious, but she’s all right. They’re not sure if, um, if Jacob has got like vertebrae problem. So they think that, that they, they’re just gonna pull the whole car seat out taking,
Alice: yeah, so they put a neck brace on him and just pulled the whole car seat out. At least he was in a car seat, I guess.
Ellen: Yeah. He didn’t look like, he was like, I didn’t notice a car seat before, but yeah, like when he was on the phone. Yeah. Unless they’re actually just taking the actual seat out of the car. Like the, not, not like a child seat.
Alice: I don’t, because it wasn’t, it, it looked like a seat.
Bex: No, it was an actual car seat. I think it was most, I think most of the time we saw Jacob, he was leaning forward to try and talk to his mother.
So we didn’t actually see what he was sitting in.
Ellen: Yeah, that’s [00:43:00] what, that’s what made me think. ’cause normally when you’re in like a booster seat type thing, it’s holding you back fairly tightly
Bex: if you’ve got a five point harness. But if you are advanced to the booster seat where you can have the lap and shoulder sash you can move around a little bit more. So maybe he was in that sort of booster seat.
Alice: Yeah, so it looked like a booster because it just looked like it was like the bottom bit. It didn’t look like it had like a back on it.
Ellen: Okay. Well in any case, they pull him out with the seat attached to him and take him off
Alice: and Yeah, they try and… so at this point, like the mum starts waking up and her pulse is steady, but she’s like covered in glass and has airbag burn and her speech has slurred and they’re like, well, is a slurred speech a symptom of her injuries? But Athena says that dispatch says that she was acting odd before the crash too. And Athena kind of has a look in the car and there’s [00:44:00] an almost empty bourbon bottle.
Ellen: Yes, she does some very professional detector-ing
Alice: detector ring.
Ellen: And dis discovers that she was drunk.
Alice: And Athena loses it. Like she’s like, “How many people have to die tonight because she was drunk and stupid?” And then she turns around in disgust and realizes that Bobby’s just staring at her. And I was like, oh, fuck
Ellen: yes. Whoops. Oh yeah. So after this Bobby’s having a bit of an episode, he’s like, you know, like he’s having a flashback.
Alice: Well, Hen’s cracked it too. Like Hen’s like, oh, drunk driving with your only child in the car. Bobby’s like, yep, you good here? I’m just leaving.
Bex: I got my own trauma to deal with. Can I, you know, hand this over to you? And Hen’s like
Alice: literally
Bex: “I’m not good at all, but I got it. ’cause that’s our job, right?” So he walks off and he sees an officer from the 1 32 trying to help someone out of their car and yells at them whether they disabled the airbag. [00:45:00] ’cause it doesn’t look like he disabled the airbag. I don’t know how Bobby can tell that from where he was.
Alice: I dunno maybe they like deflate when they’re disabled. I don’t know. I,
Bex: because it, it’s not that it’s deflated, it’s just because what happens next, because, uh, the, uh, the officer went from the 1 32, Renfro, absolutely did not disable the airbag because it goes off, um, when Renfro tries to,
Ellen: it fully explodes.
Alice: It fully explodes.
Ellen: Is a thing that actually happens?
Bex: Yes,
Alice: I guess so. Because they’d have to have some sort of gas in them to keep Yes. To inflate them.
Bex: It’s why one of the first things that they have to do is disable the airbag so that this doesn’t happen. Um, so
Alice: if you are a first responder or know how airbags work, uh, please let us know.
Bex: Yeah. ’cause I can’t be arsed looking it up tonight. Um, so the car explodes, sends Renfro flying. It, it’s a big enough explosion that it makes Bobby duck for cover as well.[00:46:00]
And when they eventually the other officers come running to douse the car and put it out. Chim goes running for Renfro after he has checked that Bobby’s okay. And, um, Renfro is like completely messed up his face. The extensive burns, like Chim has to peel his LAFD face mask off his face and just thank God it wasn’t actually like, uh, it must have been very high quality material to not have melted into his face.
Ellen: Ouch.
Bex: The, uh, the driver we, like, we thought Renfro was bad, but at least he was outside the car. The driver who was inside the car, um, as Buck reports back when he comes racing to assist in this situation is that he is alive. He has a pulse, but his skin is like paper.
Ellen: Then he calls for a burn blanket.
Bex: Bobby [00:47:00] comes to help Buck, Buck, get the guy out of the car, and once they get him on the gurney, you just, you can see that Bobby’s having flashbacks. His trauma is raising its ugly head in this moment.
Alice: Yeah. Bobby’s not doing great.
Bex: He is not doing great. But then we get a, a little bit of a, a more light, lighthearted aspect of the, um, the accident in which Maddie has taken a call from a man somewhere further back on the freeway.
Not really important, but type one diabetic, he’s feels like. Um, his blood sugar’s getting low. He needs some support. So Maddie is trying desperately to make a call to LAPD to get a car back to him, but she’s struggling to be heard over the radio through her contractions. Like Bobby, we can hear Bobby going like, I, I don’t know what you’re saying, Maddie.
Alice: Yeah. She’s like, “what’s the make and ooh, [00:48:00] plate of your vehicle?” And he’s like, “it’s a black Ford, F-150?” And she’s like, “Ooh, would your license plate?”
Bex: So Sue immediately is watching this in, um, she’s watching disapprovingly. So she comes and takes over. She gives Bobby the license plate. Um, they get someone down and, uh,
Alice: oh, my favorite. I love this. Sue’s like, “Exactly how long have you been in labor?” And Maddie’s like, “Hard to tell.” She’s like, “Weren’t you a nurse?”
Bex: So she kicks Maddie off the floor.
Alice: Maddie’s excuse is that she’s got an hour left of her shift, so she doesn’t wanna leave. Like obviously they’re busy. Um, but also it just, it blows my mind that Americans have to work right up until they have the baby.
Bex: I mean, let, let’s make it clear. It’s not that they have to work right up and take the baby, it’s that they, they do not [00:49:00] have the leave available. So if they, if they stop working, they stop getting paid. Yeah. So in order to keep getting money in, they have to keep working. They can’t take maternity leave.
Alice: Like I have a friend who literally, so she’s in the US she’s getting induced in one week’s time. She’s still at work. I’m like, what? And she’s like, oh yeah. Like I haven’t been able to take a sick day, even with the back pain and stuff, because I need the leave for when I give birth. And I’m like, what the fuck?
Ellen: I think some people do get maternity leave, but not everybody, um,
Alice: it’s not as good as ours either. Like I think the max is like six weeks.
Ellen: It’s, it really depends on who you work for, I think.
Bex: Yes. Um, very much so.
Alice: And your insurance coverage I guess too, but um, but yeah, like here it’s like what, six months? Three months? Or six months or a year?
Ellen: Yeah. Depends on, depends on, yeah, there’s a few depending factors.
Bex: Depends [00:50:00] on, um, you can take longer if your company will do, like, we’ll match the government maternity leave as well and then you can decide do you want a shorter period at full pay or you can take like double the period but at half pay.
Ellen: The other thing is, if you go back after, well, we’ve, I think we’ll discover this in future episodes. If you go back after just a couple of months or even a few weeks in some cases, um, I don’t know how people do it because you’re exhausted and we’ll find that out. Yeah. In a, in a, in a bit. But she
Alice: breaks my heart. I’m sorry, America.
Ellen: Maddie doesn’t want to go, but Sue’s like, no, you’re out. Go, go to the hospital.
Alice: Basically kicks her out.
Ellen: Yeah. Um, the, they finally get the, the mother out of the crash and they’re gonna take her to the hospital and Athena is going to follow.
Alice: Um, and yeah, make sure that the hospital knows. They need the blood alcohol content as [00:51:00] soon as she gets there.
Bex: Which if, um, we do get a, a quick Eddie’s is quite, um, surprised at this. Um, Athena says that the, she already has the warrant and it’s going to meet them at the hospital. Um,
Alice: I dunno why they need a, do they need a warrant? Our cops just take the blood alcohol.
Bex: Uh, I’m going to assume that it might have something to do with her con like she cannot consent
Alice: maybe ’cause she can’t consent to having it done?
Bex: Anyway. Um, so before Athena disappears, um, to follow the ambulance, she checks in with Bobby. Um, but before they can have a full heart to heart debrief over what’s going on, Sue comes over the radio asking whether Captain Nash can spare a paramedic for a woman in labor. Um, and Bobby’s like
Alice: at dispatch. Yeah, so I love it so much.
Bex: He’s like, “I’m pretty sure that there are [00:52:00] paramedics a lot closer to you than where I am right now, Sue,” and Sue’s like, “Yes, you are correct. However, none of those paramedics are the baby’s father.”
Alice: Um, so she’s done this over like the full radio, so she hasn’t just radioed to Bobby, she’s radioed to like the whole team and all of them who are all of a sudden like all in the same place again. Um, all of them just turn and stare at Chim who pulls his mask down and has the biggest grin on his face
Ellen: Chim is beaming.
Alice: It’s, he’s so happy. He’s just like, “Oh my God.”
Ellen: “It’s time!”
Alice: And Bobby’s like, “Chim, go meet your daughter.” Um, and just like kicks him out and Athena’s just like, “Cool. I’m following that ambulance so you can ride with me,” and like, throws him in the car.
Bex: Yeah. Because apparently everybody is going to First Presbyterian.
Alice: Yeah, all of them. Like, except for Jacob who went somewhere else.
Bex: Maybe First Presbyterian doesn’t have that good a pediatric surgery.
Alice: I was gonna say Jacob probably just went to a children’s hospital.
Bex: Yeah.
Alice: [00:53:00] Um, but yeah, back at dispatch, Maddie’s still straining and she’s like, “Yeah, that contraction was, um, that, that one was less than five minutes between.”
And Sue’s like, “Yeah, you think you’ve still got another hour left in you?” And she’s like, “Eh,”
Ellen: Josh is basically making it, like, forcing her to get in the car. He’s like, “We’re going, here are your things.”
Alice: Yeah. Josh has grabbed her handbag, um, his car’s downstairs and ready. Clearly. Um, I feel like he feels like a getaway driver. Like he’s already like got the car, like at the stairs at the, and he is just like, yep, let’s go.
Ellen: Josh is like at panic stations at the moment. He’s like, oh my God.
Alice: Literally, it’s, it’s so good. I love it. He’s just like, oh my God. Oh my God. Oh my God. And yeah, Maddie asked about Chim, Sue is like, yep, he’s got a police escort, he’ll meet you there.
Um, Maddie’s like, “It just feels like it’s going so fast,” and Josh is like, “You’re nine and a half months pregnant. It’s not that fast.”
Ellen: Uh, I love this bit ’cause I get to the hospital, oh, Athena and Chim get to the hospital and Chim’s getting in the elevator and he says to Athena, “Wish me luck.” And she goes, uh, [00:54:00] before the doors shut. She’s like, “Here’s a word of advice. If she tells you to shut up, you shut up.” And Chim’s like, “Okay, copy that.” I’m like, that’s good advice.
Bex: So while Chim heads up to, uh, obstetrics, I’m guessing maternity, wherever he’s going, um,
Alice: delivery?
Ellen: Delivery suite?
Bex: Labor and delivery? Yeah, that’s probably a better term for it. Um. Athena overhears a conversation that’s happening at the nurse’s desk where a man is, uh, demanding to see somebody in the hospital. And Athena goes over to make sure that everything is okay, because apparently the man is there to see Rachel Hawkinson, who is the mother that they have pulled from the freeway.
But he doesn’t know any information. All he’s been told is that she is at [00:55:00] this hospital, um, that she and his son were in an accident. She’s at this hospital, he’s at a different hospital and she’s been, he’s been told that he can’t see her wi his wife. And when he, when Athena tries to talk him down and he continues to demand, I wanna see my wife, Athena lays down the law and says, “You can’t do that because your wife’s room is secure, because she’s in our custody while we investigate the cause of tonight’s accident.”
And the man sort of looks at her and goes, “But the news said it was a drunk driver,” and Athena just looks at him and goes, “Yes.” And you just see all the fight leave the man.
Alice: Yeah. He finally gets it. He’s like, right,
Bex: right. So she was drunk,
Alice: she was the drunk driver
Bex: and she was driving and she had Jacob in the car and she caused the massive accident.
Ellen: Hmm. I feel so sorry for this guy.
Alice: Oh, so do I.
Ellen: Um, he [00:56:00] calls like a, a short amount of time passes and he is called the other hospital to see how Jacob’s doing. And apparently he’s still in surgery, but he’s gonna go over there to be there when he gets out of there. But yeah, then we, he, he sort of tells Athena that she tried so many times to stay sober and it almost broke our marriage. And when Jacob was born, he fi he thought they fi, she finally had a reason not to drink.
But um, you know, he sort of says, “Is there any way that you’re wrong about this?” And then says, “No. She had a blood alcohol content of 0.28 when she arrived, which is four times the legal limit.” And then she says that would account for her disorientation when your son called 9-1-1. And this just breaks the Jacob’s dad.
He’s like, “Jacob was the one who called 9-1-1?” And he just bursts into tears and so do I. Um, because this is so heartbreaking. But yeah,
Alice: [00:57:00] it’s so sad.
Ellen: He blamed, he’s blaming himself I think at this point as well.
Alice: That’s interest.
Ellen: So, so sad.
Alice: I was just curious because Athena says that the, um, BAC was 0.28, which is four times the legal limit.
Ellen: Mm-hmm.
Alice: Our legal limit’s 0.05, like 0.28 divided by four is 0.07. So I’m like, is she rounding or is the legal limit in California just more than,
Bex: I’m assuming she’s rounding.
Ellen: I doubt it. Unless they’re measuring different units.
Alice: No. Point oh eight
Bex: seriously?
Alice: Or higher is the, um, is illegal. So yeah. Point oh seven is the legal limit by the looks of it.
Bex: Holy shit.
Alice: Because it says BAC of 0.08 or higher is an automatic DUI. So 0.07. But is it the same
Ellen: units as we as we used to measure it?
Bex: Yeah. [00:58:00] Yeah. ’cause it’s percentage, it’s not.
Ellen: Oh, okay.
Bex: Yeah. Yeah. I don’t think blood alcohol is metric versus imperial. I think that’s a, a standard. Yeah. Um, I think that’s a standard measurement. Damn 0.08.
Alice: Yeah. That’s crazy.
Bex: Yikes.
Alice: Yeah. So yeah. Here it’s 0.05.
Ellen: Doesn’t stop people.
Alice: No. Doesn’t at all. But yeah, poor Jacob, poor his dad. Um,
Bex: poor everybody.
Ellen: Yeah. It’s sad.
Alice: Athena’s like, you know, you didn’t know. And he is like, I should have. Um, and then we go back to this, this episode really is just a rollercoaster of emotions.
Ellen: Yeah. It’s emotional whiplash.
Alice: It’s funny, it’s sad, it’s funny, it’s sad. It’s like, yeah,
Ellen: that’s right.
Alice: Heartwarming. It’s heartbreaking. It’s,
Ellen: this was the reason that I was, I was kind of convinced that something terrible was gonna happen with the baby because like everything else was so heartbreaking. Like there was all this like really tense and scary stuff going on.
And then all of a sudden [00:59:00] in the middle of it, there’s this baby being born, which in itself is quite dramatic. Yeah. But, um, for different reasons, uh, Chim rocks up just as, um, the doctor says that Maddie’s at 10 centimeters dilated and they need to get, like, you know, starting with the pushing, he’s like, “we’re gonna grab a few things and we’ll get started.” I’m like,
Alice: what are you grabbing?
Ellen: I think the baby’s gonna, yeah. Well, I don’t think the baby’s gonna wait for you to get ready.
Alice: No. Don’t you have people to do that?
Ellen: If she’s ready to go, then
Bex: yeah. But it,
Alice: like, I’m sure someone else can grab a towel. It’s okay.
Bex: But it’s, it’s such the traditional Hollywood like vision of labor. Like Maddie’s up on the bed with her feet up on stirrups and everybody’s gowned up and masked up and gloved up and it’s, she’s literally just stays seated or lying in the bed pushing the entire time. Yeah.
Ellen: Yeah.
Alice: I don’t think that’s how labor works.
Bex: No.
Ellen: Sometimes it does, but not all the time.
Alice: Autumn had contractions while I sung folklore to her and rubbed her belly.
Ellen: Aw. [01:00:00]
Alice: But yeah, so they grab a few things. Maddie’s still in a mask at this point, and I’m just like, surely they would not make her be in a mask. Like she’s got enough to worry about.
Bex: Yeah, it’s gotta uncomfortable that she’s panting.
Alice: Yeah. Luckily when it’s actually happening, her mask is off because I was getting real worried, but yeah, so Maddie’s sort of whimpering and Chim’s like, “Are you okay? Can I do anything for you? I can shut up. I mean, I can try.” Um, but Maddie’s like, “no, no, no, you’re fine. What I need is my breathing beads.” What are breathing beads?
Bex: So like rosary beads.
Alice: She’s just doing the Hail Marys.
Ellen: It’s like something to do with like, no, no, like you, the breathing pattern, you know, like that you’re supposed to do to calm yourself down. Like you have a certain number of beads of one size and then the next like, I don’t know, I’m not exactly sure.
Bex: They help sync mind, body and breath. It’s literally, you’re gonna laugh, but it literally is a rosary. It’s just, it’s a string of beads.
Ellen: Yeah, it’s for counting. It’s for counting breaths.
Bex: Yes. [01:01:00] Except, yeah. Um, but this is an important, this is an important part because the baby bag is not with Chim, he’s left it in Albert’s car. But when he calls Albert to try and get him to come and bring the bag to labor and delivery, um, they get Albert’s voicemail, which is that, “This is Albert Han. Please do not leave a message. That’s what texts are for.” And I, I resonate very strongly with Albert’s voicemail.
Alice: I have to set up my, my voicemail again, and I’m so tempted to make it this so tempted to just be like, “hello, this is Alice. Please do not leave a message. That’s what texts are for.”
Ellen: Yeah. You should, I like it.
Alice: But Chim’s like, you know, he’s probably sleeping. Maddie gets over it pretty quickly.
Bex: They don’t think anything of it. And at this point, Dr. Heller comes in and says that they’re ready to go. They get Chim into a gown, so they’re kind of distracted. Meanwhile, we come back to [01:02:00] 9-1-1, um, for a 9-1-1 call, funnily enough, who would’ve thought, um, May has stepped up and taken over a station. And the 9-1-1 greeting has changed because it’s not 9-1-1.
What’s your emergency? It’s “9-1-1. Are you calling about the pile up?” I’m guessing they’re getting a lot of calls about it. And the caller says his, his voice is very faint, very weak. Says, “yeah, I think I was in it.” And May’s like, “Well, this first responders on the scene and working, you should be able to see them.”
The caller responds that he doesn’t see anyone. Um, and we can see that, um, from their point of view. There’s just trees and the airbag in front of them, they can’t see any LAFD people. Um, May questions whether they’re injured and it’s, at this point we see that the caller is Albert [01:03:00] and his face is covered in blood and it’s dripping, but it’s dripping the wrong way.
It’s dripping like up off his face and when he reports to May, yes, he’s bleeding quite a bit. He sort of follows the blood that’s sort of dripping up off his face and it’s hitting the ceiling of the car, except at this point
Ellen: There’s blood everywhere
Bex: the camera spins and we realize that the ceiling is now the floor, and Albert is pinned upside down in his car.
Ellen: Oh, poor Albert.
Bex: And we cut to commercial and then we come back from commercial. To hear that first,
Alice: I just have to say quickly. I was so mad when I rewatched this, like, thank God I knew what was happening, but I’m pretty sure it got spoiled for me the first time I watched it too. Because when May goes “9-1-1, are you calling about the pile up?” Because like the voice is off screen, it captioned
Bex: Yes.
Alice: When they said 9-1-1 and then the captions. And the captions was like, yes. Albert says, yeah. Yeah. I think I was [01:04:00] in it and I was like, what the fuck?
Bex: I noticed that when I was watching it.
Alice: Like that’s like the biggest, like it’s the reveal. Like don’t just fuck. Oh, I was so mad about it.
Ellen: I didn’t have the captions on. So that was a reveal for me.
Bex: Yeah. I did notice that when I was captioning it, that the captions did spoil, big reveal before it actually got revealed. Um,
Ellen: uh, only by like 10 seconds.
Alice: Yeah. But still like the shot, the shot is so well done. Like it
Ellen: is really well done. Yeah.
Alice: Like you, you’re seeing it from his point of view and he is looking around and then they like, they pan out and then the camera spins. Oh. It’s just, it’s so well done. Who directed this?
Bex: Uh, David Grossman? No. Marcus Stokes
Ellen: Good job, David. Oh,
Bex: David was last week. David was last week. That’s why his name was stuck in my head. This was written by Andrew Myers and directed by Marcus Stokes.
Ellen: Yeah. Excellently, uh, framed and put together this bit.
Alice: Oh, there you go. He, um, he also directed “Fallout”, which is [01:05:00] the one with the, um, radioactive waste truck inside the tunnel.
Bex: Bobby. Bobby going all Hulk on us?
Alice: Yeah. Which I, I really liked the first time, but then the second time it didn’t really hit ’cause I knew that it’d be fine. So yeah. He’s good at tense. Good job.
Bex: So yes. So back to Poor Albert. I did, I did like this, that the first time we heard all the 9-1-1 calls, that first call where there, there’s a car on the wrong side and it gets cut off. We now learn that that was Albert.
Ellen: Yeah. We now know it was Albert. Yeah.
Alice: Yeah. It’s such a throwaway thing.
Bex: And the, the great thing is that even when you go back and watch it, after knowing this information, it’s, it is Albert’s voice making that call. You just don’t realize it’s Albert’s voice because it’s not captioned.
Alice: Yeah. It goes back so quickly. The writer of this episode too, I just went and checked, um, the writer of this episode wrote “Ocean’s 9-1-1” and “The Taking of Dispatch 9-1-1”.
Ellen: Oh, right.
Bex: Yeah. We like Andrew,
Alice: Plus a lot of other ones. Yeah.
Bex: [01:06:00] Andrew’s a good writer. We like him.
Alice: Oh my God. He, he, he wrote “Buck Bothered and Bewildered”.
Bex: Yeah. I’m pretty sure we had.
Alice: That’s great.
Bex: I don’t know who, I’ve had conversation. Conversation. I,
Alice: I’m sure we have the conversation every time he writes an episode, but like that he’s,
Bex: I’m pretty sure we’ve had the conversation that he’s like the Bobo of, um, of 9-1-1 as well. Yeah. So, yes, so Albert made that 9-1-1 call. The reason that it got cut off was that, um, he swerves to avoid Rachel, he gets t-boned and gets spun off and he flies off the freeway, which is why no one has found him because he’s literally not on the freeway anymore.
Alice: Not on the freeway. And also not part of the big pile up. He’s actually before it.
Bex: Sue has, Sue calls back to Bobby and says that they’ve received a call from a driver who says he was in the pile up and Bobby is like, I’m pretty sure we’ve cleared [01:07:00] everybody. Um, are you sure that they’re
Alice: Yeah, they’re sure they were in this crash?
Bex: So at this point, Sue decides to ask May, why don’t you call them back and see, like, get some more details. And of course the phone goes to voicemail, um, which is great because May recognizes the name and she goes back to Bobby and says, “Bobby, the call came from an Han. Isn’t that Chimney’s brother?” And at this point, the rest of the 118 again have all gathered together.
It’s amazing how they do that in this episode. Anytime there’s a big plot point, they all just kind of gravitate towards one another
Alice: to be fair, like they’re waiting because they’re like, oh, there might be someone trapped in the car. So they this at this point they’re waiting for their next instructions.
Bex: I know, but every single time there’s a big, like there’s a big story point they’re all back together.
Alice: They’re just little ducklings. They’re following their Bobby, leave it alone.
Bex: So Bobby. Uh, Bobby asks if May is sure that it’s Albert and she said, “yeah, I heard his voicemail [01:08:00] message.” Buck grabs the radio at this point and says, “what was the voicemail message?” And so May recites it.
“He said his name. It’s Albert. Albert Han. He said not to leave a message because…” Buck finishes “because that’s what texts are for,” and that’s when Bobby believes that it is actually Albert.
Alice: Yeah. Because yeah, they might be 50, like, you know, it’s LA, There might be a lot of Albert Hans. You don’t know. Um, but it’s the exact voicemail.
Bex: Yeah. If Buck knows that voicemail, then it’s, it has to be,
Alice: yeah. It’s gotta be Chimney’s brother.
Bex: So they start re-searching every single vehicle that they’ve just cleared.
Alice: Yeah. And yelling for Albert.
Ellen: Meanwhile, um, Maddie’s pushing. Um, Chim’s like, “this is really it. Today’s the day!” And Maddie’s like, “Shut up.” Chim’s like, okay.
Alice: Yeah. He’s like, copy that.
Bex: So the next couple of minutes are [01:09:00] cutting, cutting back and forth between the freeway and the hospital and Albert and Maddie.
Alice: Yeah. So Buck says that they’ve been up and down the road twice and he’s not there. Then the main reason why I started fucking sobbing is the needle drop is because they’re like, oh, we’re just gonna play “To Build a Home”, which, you know, is very traumatic of a song. So I’m sobbing as soon as the, the like opening notes start.
Bex: Yeah, it’s definitely a choice.
Alice: Bobby gets an idea and says, um, “Dispatch, this is Captain Nash, the very first 9-1-1 caller who reported seeing the vehicle, which exit were they calling from?” And May looks and says that it says Exit 43 Exit Ramp. And they’re at, they’re at exit 46.
And that, that’s when they realized he wasn’t in the pile up, he was in front of it. And so they race to get to exit 43. Then we go back to the hospital and [01:10:00] Maddie’s still pushing, she has a break for a second. Chim goes to change the towel that he is like dabbing on her head. And she’s like,
Bex: yeah, he’s, he’s literally got a rolled up towel that he is patting her forehead with.
Alice: He’s keeping the sweat out of her eyes. It’s fine. Um,
Ellen: but the other thing is like all this time, like Maddie is yes, straining and pushing, whatever, but she’s also kind of smiley and chatty and like, at some points. And I’m just like, no,
Alice: that’s not how it went with you?
Ellen: That’s no, like if you’re in the pushing stage, then, you know, it’s pretty relentless and quite painful. But anyway, um, the other thing I, the fact that this doctor’s name is Dr. Heller. Every time I see that on the thing I’m just like, oh, it’s one of us.
Alice: Dr. Heller to, to build a home place. Who’s the Destiel fucker on the,
Ellen: I know it’s all here. All right, so they get to exit 43. [01:11:00] They, they fuck yelling for Albert. They can’t see anything. Um, and then Buck notices that there is tire tracks heading off the side of the road. And he’s like, look, look, look over here. So they run over and they see the car upside down.
Alice: Um, I gotta mention too, like they, again, the directing is really good. Buck puts the flashlight like on the car, and as it goes over Albert’s face, it quickly cuts back to the hospital. Where the doctor goes, “I can see the head. You’re doing great. Keep going.” Like, it was just, it was a really good segue because as soon as you see Albert’s head, they go, I can see the head, and it’s just like, oh my God. Get back to Albert. Like, he’s dying. What are you doing?
Bex: This next sequence, the,
Ellen: yeah, he’s dying while this other thing is being born.
Bex: Oh, they, they do cut back and forth and the what happens in one scene is kind of carried over to the next scene and Yes. Isn’t it funny that this is not the first time that this show has had a situation where someone is being rescued while someone [01:12:00] else is giving birth and the birth and the rescuing
Ellen: Oh, yeah.
Bex: Coincide to the fact that, what was the other one? The la the mudslide. Where you had Chimney giving the birth. Oh, Chimney helping deliver the baby
Alice: That was this season as well! Holy shit
Ellen: Chimney giving birth? Wait, I missed an episode? When did Chimney give birth?
Bex: Okay. No, come on. My brain is not working.
Ellen: It’s okay. Sorry, I’m just teasing.
Alice: Oh, the mirroring. Oh,
Bex: yes.
Alice: That’s what frustrates me about this show is that we have amazing episodes like this, and then we have episodes like last week.
Bex: What was last week?
Alice: Exactly. Oh,
Ellen: it was the one you didn’t like.
Bex: Breaking point. That’s right.
Alice: Yes. Um, speaking of last week, just quick, quick segue, um, while Maddie’s, you know, halfway through labor and Albert’s dying, um, I, after we recorded last week, I’ve been listening to the How We Made Your Mother podcast, which is literally how we, the podcast about how they made, How I Met Your Mother, [01:13:00] and it’s the one of the co-creators and the, um, and Josh Radner who played.
Like Ted, so Ted, the main character, um, and they were going, they were talking about the New Year’s Eve episode, and they were having like this big laugh because when they re-watched it, they’re like, a lot of this doesn’t make sense. Like there’s a whole storyline where, um, they, like two of the main characters can’t contact each other and they just keep saying that it’s because the circuits are jammed and they’re like, what circuits?
This is 2005. It’s not like there’s a, like people in the thing like plugging in things and they’ve like lost the wire
Ellen: and the telephone cables?
Alice: And they’re like, yeah, maybe the reception was shit, but like, why didn’t we just say something about the reception? Like, why did we have to say circuits are jammed?
Um, but then they were talking about how, and they were told this by another writer where as long as the audience are having a good time, it doesn’t really matter if things don’t make a hundred percent sense. Like as long as it, [01:14:00] like, as long as they’re having a good time, then just like, go with it and people will just go with it.
Ellen: Mm-hmm.
Alice: And I think that’s, that was the problem with last week is that we weren’t having a good time. Oh yeah. And so everything that was stupid, we were like, this is stupid.
Bex: 100%. We’ve said that before in these episodes, that there are some storylines that are absolutely ridiculous, but we enjoy them enough that we’re willing to suspend our disbelief and we’re willing to overlook how ridiculous the storyline is.
But when the writing is bad and the acting is bad, and we are not having a good time, then yes, we are gonna be a hundred percent more critical.
Alice: Yeah. Um, but yeah, it was just interesting that I literally listened to it like the day after we recorded that episode and I was like, oh, need to remember to mention that because it was so true. And like it’s interesting that like to hear the writer of the episodes talking about it.
Ellen: Yeah.
Alice: Because the writers are aware that things don’t make sense all the time, but as long as the audience is having a good [01:15:00] time. So, um, anyway. Yeah. So.
Ellen: I feel like they embraced that in Supernatural quite a lot.
Alice: Yeah. Don’t pull the thread, Misha. Don’t pull the thread.
Ellen: Lot. Yeah. A lot of, a lot of things didn’t make any sense, but anyway. Yeah, they continue, she continues giving birth and,
Bex: and they continue rescuing,
Ellen: they continue to save Albert and they find that he’s lost a lot of blood. Uh, he’s, pulse is racing, but he’s still alive at this point. Um, Dr. Heller tells her that she needs one more big push.
Bex: Yep. So we’ve cut back to Maddie.
Ellen: You can do this,
Bex: but then we cut back to the freeway and just as Dr. Heller is encouraging Maddie, Buck is encouraging Albert,
Alice: yeah, we’re right here. We got you. Um, and then 3, 2, 1. And they cut his, his seatbelt, he falls free.
Bex: But then the, this is one of the ones that I really like where you’ve got Eddie going 3, 2, 1, and then you cut back to the hospital and Chim is counting 5, 6, 7, 8. I know [01:16:00] it’s not like sequentially.
Alice: Yeah, but it’s really good. Yeah.
Bex: But it’s the idea that they’re all counting, they’re just counting for different reasons, for different times.
Alice: But yeah, so they get Albert out and onto a backboard
Bex: and then straight into the ambulance. We don’t even see that. He’s out, boom, he’s in the ambulance, he’s going straight to hospital. Um, and then he flatlines,
Alice: they believe he probably has a ruptured spleen and is hemorrhaging inside. Um, and then, yeah, he starts coding.
Bex: So they start compressions. And as we cut back to the hospital and Chim is once again counting Maddie’s like contractions ’cause she’s gotta push for 10, the counting of the contractions starts to line up with the compressions that Hen is doing for CPR.
Alice: And oh, I’m sobbing, sobbing, mess.
Bex: And as Hen is beseeching Albert not to do this, Chim is telling Maddie that she can do it.
Alice: Then we go back to Hen going, “come on, you have a niece to meet. Come on.” [01:17:00] And sure enough, the baby’s born. “That’s her. That’s her. You did it.”
Ellen: Maddie’s like, “I did?”
Alice: They actually have a baby that looks like a newborn. I was so excited. I was like, holy crap. It doesn’t look like a toddler.
Ellen: It did look like a very little baby this time.
Bex: And then here’s where the fake, here’s the fake out because we get the baby. The baby is fine. We cut back to the ambulance. Hannah’s continuing to do contractions, and the music fades out.
And then it’s just silence. And the heart, the, the heart rate monitor flatlining. And it’s a good couple of seconds where you’re thinking, oh shit, the baby’s born. Does that mean Albert’s not gonna make it? Mm. And then right at that moment where you’re really starting to worry, the monitor picks up a rhythm and Eddie announces that he’s got a pulse.
Alice: Yeah. I had no idea if Albert was in this after this. So I was b [01:18:00] the first time I watched, I was bawling. I was like, oh my God, I’m just gonna, like, I was just getting used to him and now he’s gone? Um, like even the, like the second time I was still re like, I was still tearing up and crying a little bit, but like, it wasn’t as bad, but it was still such a tense moment even on rewatch.
Bex: Oh yeah,
Ellen: yeah.
Alice: Fucking hell.
Ellen: Yeah. Very tense. And, and to be honest, I kind of knew that Albert was gonna make it, but it felt so much like he wasn’t gonna make it, that I was still very dense. But, um, watching babies being born always makes me cry anyway, so yeah, I was crying for a different reason. Uh, but yeah, amazing, amazing scenes.
Loved it. Loved this. It’s so tense. Um, but yeah, Maddie gets handed the baby apparently they don’t let you have skin to skin contact in this, on, on TV maybe. I dunno, dunno how that works.
Alice: Maddie’s gotta keep her clothes on a a,
Ellen: a wrapped up baby.
Alice: We’re only an M rating. Um,
Ellen: yeah. [01:19:00] No, no boobies, um, allowed.
Bex: There’s a way to do it without showing boobies though. Seriously.
Ellen: I’m sure they could have managed it, but No. Um, but
Alice: yeah, they say
Ellen: they did not.
Alice: She’s so perf, she’s so tiny and perfect. Chim says “everything’s perfect. I love you.” And Maddie says, “I love us,” and it’s just like this happy little bubble and I’m just like, Chim, your brothers dead.
Ellen: Yeah. Very emotionally roller coastering at this point because it’s, yeah, you still don’t know what’s going on with Albert, but for the moment everything is perfect.
Alice: Oh. The fucking song. Jesus Christ.
Bex: Yeah, that was, that definitely did not help.
Alice: Um, for those of you in the Supernatural fandom as well. Um, there’s a like really long, quite well known fan fiction called To Build a Home that’s like loosely based on the song.
Bex: I wondered about that,
Ellen: which I have not read because I know that it’s emotionally devastating.
Alice: It’s [01:20:00] very emotionally devastating. Like it’s,
Ellen: I do not have the spoons.
Alice: It’s good. It was written, it was written over like five years or something. And it’s crazy because the author was like 17 or something when she started. Mm-hmm. And then the whole like, it’s like we grew up with them. Like there’ll be like, you know, a month gap and they’ll be like, oh, sorry, like this happened in my life.
So it’s really cool because you get like Cas and Dean’s life, but also the author’s life, which is cool. But yeah, it’s one that I want as a physical copy, but it’s big and I just haven’t had the money spare, um, because it’s just amazing. I’ve read it once. It made me cry. Now the song makes me cry every time.
And so the fact that that’s the song, I’m just like, no. How could you?
Bex: We are going to jump back to Dispatch pretty much just to further May’s storyline slightly to um, to lead up for next week. So [01:21:00] Josh walks in, it’s the morning, everyone’s getting ready to end their shift. He announced he’s got a text from Maddie or Chimney or somebody with all of the stats for, uh, the new baby, which he announces to the group and everybody is thrilled because baby is there. Baby is safe. Baby was not born at Dispatch.
Alice: Baby was six pounds in one ounce. And I was like, that’s real small for a baby that was two weeks overdue. Yeah. Um. Two and a half weeks overdue. But then I remember that Chimney and Maddie are both tiny people, so
Ellen: that’s a good point.
Alice: Um, but yeah, like I was two weeks overdue. I was like, I was a lot more than that.
Ellen: Yeah. So the normal, the birth weights range from 2.5 to 4.5 kilograms apparently. So for this baby to be 2.7 is very small.
Alice: Yes, it’s tiny for a two week overdue baby. I don’t think they know what baby supposed to weigh anyway. Yes.
Bex: No, I don’t think they do. Anyway,
Ellen: they’re both very small people, so that’s fine. That’s [01:22:00] that they’re on the slow side of, on on the slow side. On the low side of, on the tiny normal,
Alice: the, yeah. Um, but yeah, they’re very excited that it wasn’t born at Dispatch.
Bex: So everybody heads off for, um, morning bottomless Mimosas, I believe is the general consensus of where they’re going. They do invite May to go with them, but one, number one, they wouldn’t be able to. May wouldn’t be able to drink. Number two, she’s pretty sure that if she were drinking, she would fall asleep at the table. And number three, she’s still preoccupied by that friend request in her phone.
Alice: Yeah, her, her phone dings again and she like opens her phone again and it’s still Laila’s friend request. It’s like why is it buzzing you?
Bex: Yeah. And that’s pretty much the scene. It’s everyone at dispatch knows that, um, the baby’s born May is still preoccupied with, um, with this friend request with Laila and that’s it.
Alice: Yeah. But they’re [01:23:00] all happy that the baby’s born. So
Bex: the, the more interesting scene is the next one, which is we cut to First Presbyterian where Buck is roaming the halls, clearly looking for someone with a bag in his hand.
Alice: Oh, this scene.
Bex: Um, and Chimney for some like six sense reason looks up and sees Buck in the hall and leaves Maddie’s bedside to meet Buck out in the hall because there’s no visiting, there’s a strict no visitor policy at the moment. And Buck’s like, “Yeah, I know, but Chimney,” chimney is just off on another planet.
He’s so happy. He’s all he wants to talk about is Maddie and his new daughter. Um, he’s not even sort of paying any attention to Buck, except when he turns back around, uh, he notices Buck’s got a bag in his hand and he recognizes the bag and he’s like, “Hey, that’s Maddie’s hospital bag. Where did you get that? Is Albert here?”
Ellen: Mm,
Bex: I mean, he [01:24:00] is, but not in the sense that Chimney means, um, and because it’s a hospital and because it’s this timeline, um, Buck is wearing a face mask. So he has to use his body and his eyes to just convey his, what he’s trying to tell Chim without actually using words. And Oliver does an amazing job.
’cause yeah, he literally like his shoulders just completely sink and his entire body just deflates like a balloon.
Alice: Then we go back to our least favorite storyline of the episode.
Bex: Yes. Because while Buck left the 118, after getting back after the, the call and headed to the hospital, Hen has headed home and the first thing she sees when she gets home is, is a tiny little pink suitcase next to the door.
Because today is the day Nia is going to go to her birth mother’s for [01:25:00] a overnight visit. And while Karen is doing her best to put on a brave face, she’s making pancakes for everybody. Um, Hen’s like, no. No, I’ve had an absolute shit night. Um, I need Nia here. I’m not letting her go. And when Karen tells Hen that, you know, we can’t stop this, she lashes out at Karen.
Ellen: Yeah. And, and Karen’s, uh, does well, Tracy, I guess the actress does such a beautiful job of this. She’s like, you know, she bursts like, you know, her eyes are well up. And she’s like, “You think I, I don’t want to fight this? Like, we can’t fight it. There’s nothing we can do.”
And Hen’s like asking her, “Why, what? Tell me why you don’t wanna fight this.” She’s like, “There is no fight. You know, I’m barely holding onto this.”
Alice: Yep. “She has a mother. She’s not ours. Even if we love her, [01:26:00] like she is,”
Ellen: yeah. She’s barely hanging on. And “please don’t make me do this alone.” And so then Hen is a bit, you know, sad that she made Karen sad.
Alice: I’m glad Karen said it. Go, Karen, you fucking tell her.
Ellen: So then the kids, there’s noise in the background and Karen has to go and do deal with the kids while Hen stands there looking ashamed of herself a little bit
Bex: As she should.
Alice: Mm.
Ellen: Um, and Nia is happy that Mama Hen is home
Bex: just to, you know, really sort of twist the knife.
Alice: Oh, right.
Ellen: Yeah. But yeah, it’s sad that they, these guys have to have a fight every now and then to make the drama, like for the drama. I don’t like to see them fighting.
Alice: Yeah. Our moms are fighting,
Bex: so while they’re fighting, Chimney is still in the hospital. He is still sitting beside a bed. Uh, but this time he’s sitting beside Albert’s and he’s just, he’s talking to [01:27:00] Albert trying to get him to wake up.
Um, including, like asking Albert what he thinks that they should name the baby. ’cause the name, the baby doesn’t have a name. Um. Suggests, maybe they could call it Alberta or Albertina.
Alice: Albertina
Bex: And pauses to wait for Albert to like go and you fucking idiot. That is not a name that you give a child, but of course he doesn’t wake up at this point.
There is a, there is a, a long monologue, which we love when they give Kenny, like, I hate that they do put Chimney through the ringer, but I love it because Kenneth, Kenneth does it so well.
Ellen: Oh he does.
Alice: Oh they do. They’re like, oh, Kenny and JLH can cry real well, so let’s just make their life a tragedy.
Ellen: Yeah. He’s lost so many people.
Bex: He tells Albert, Albert that, um, he [01:28:00] knows that he’s had a really crappy day, but Chim needs him to wake up. Because the doctors are giving him some real serious looks and expressing their concerns, “but they don’t know us Hans. We are excellent healers.” At which point my brain went, wait, Chim, didn’t your mother die of cancer?
And then another part of my brain went, yes, but she wasn’t a Han so she doesn’t count.
Ellen: I mean, deep, like accurate, but ow.
Bex: I know. Anyway, that’s where my brain went during this scene.
Ellen: Yeah. Um,
Bex: of all the things to get hung up on, that’s what my brain decided to get hung up on. Um, yeah. The point is that he’s now accepted Albert as his brother. He didn’t know when it went from being a biological fact to an emotional reality, but it did, and there’s no turning back.
Um, and he now has everything that he’s ever wanted. He’s got a family of his own. And that [01:29:00] includes Albert. He tells Albert, “This could be the best day of my life because I have a beautiful baby girl. And my brother didn’t die. ’cause in fact, he just woke up and told me that he was gonna be okay. So just open your eyes, Albert please.”
And at some point during this speech, he’s, he picked up Albert’s hand and he is sort of holding Albert’s hand. And at the, this last plea for Albert to wake up, he drops his head onto Albert’s hand and he just starts sobbing. And of course, Albert opens his eyes.
Alice: We get the little flickering first.
Bex: Well, yeah, ’cause it’s not,
Ellen: he takes him a little while.
Bex: It’s not quite, you know, for the drama enough that he like wide awake immediately. They, they do have a little bit of realism where it takes a while for you to come to consciousness.
Alice: And Albert just whispers “it hurts.”
Ellen: Aw.
Alice: And then we get Chim who like immediately looks up [01:30:00] and starts stroking Albert’s hair. He’s like, it’s okay. “Hey, we got plenty of time, little brother.” And I’m just bawling my eyes out. I’m just like, oh my God. It’s his brother.
Ellen: I’m like, oh, thank God. He’s all right.
Alice: He woke up.
Ellen: Uh, okay, we’re gonna go check in with Bobby and Athena.
Bex: Yes, Athena has to apologize for the, the shitty thing she said in front of Bobby
Ellen: we apologize and we have to catch up on what happened to everybody. ’cause these guys are the ones who do the exposition.
Bex: Oh yes, we’ve got exposition police officer.
Ellen: So she heard Athena comes in and says she heard about Albert. Um, is he okay? And Bobby says he’s alive. But what about the boy from the crash? And Athena explains that surgery was a success. He’s recovering with his father and the mother is also okay.
She only had minus scrapes and bruises despite being hit head on by a, like a mini bus or whatever. It was [01:31:00] like, wow, I knew cars these days had pretty good safety, but like,
Alice: it’s probably ’cause she didn’t know what was gonna happen. So she was quite relaxed.
Bex: They do say that drunks tend not to get injured when they get into accidents because your entire, their entire body is just relaxed. Most of the injuries that people get are because you anticipate the, the, the, the, the hit. So you tense everything up, which is why the injuries are, are a lot, often a lot, um, more serious.
Alice: Yeah. And like you’ll put your arms up and then you might, like, your arm will smack you in the, the head from like the airbag going off and that sort of thing too. So,
Ellen: but like it was a head on collision followed by plenty more cars ramming into the back of it. Like I’m just, I’m just shocked that anyone’s alive anyway.
Alice: It happens all the time though. It’s like, and often it’s like the driver will walk away and the passenger will die as well.
Ellen: Yeah, yeah. [01:32:00]
Alice: But yeah, so Athena goes on to say that the husband had no idea that she’d started drinking again. And then not sure if I believe him. And Bobby’s like, well, could be true. Could be. He just needed to believe it was true. And his face, like he’s trying to keep it together, but like his eyes are glassy and like,
Ellen: he’s definitely been going through it since.
Alice: Oh, he’s breaking my heart.
Ellen: Poor thing.
Alice: Um, and this is when Athena sort of like clocks him and goes, “yeah, I’m sorry about what I said at the wreck, the drunk and stupid thing.”
Bobby’s like, “You weren’t wrong. People died last night because of her. I don’t know her, but I know what it’s like to inflict that kind of damage.” And Bobby tries. I mean, Athena tries to deflect and says, Bobby, you’re nothing like that woman. Bobby’s like, “I’m exactly like that woman. And the day that I forget, that will be a very dangerous day.”
Ellen: Oh, the trauma.
Alice: Um, but then he just stands up and he is like, “I’ve gotta go out for a while. Love you. Bye.” And I’m just like, I wouldn’t let him [01:33:00] let, I’d be like, where are you going? Are you okay? Do you need me to come with you?
Ellen: Yeah.
Bex: Turns out he was heading to an AA meeting, so it’s fine.
Alice: Which is fine, but like, I wish he’d said like, I know it’s like for the segue, yes, but like, I wish Athena would’ve been like, where are you going? Like, um, unless he just, like when he’s going, he just says, I’ve gotta go out for a while. That’s like his code.
Bex: Or could be that she’s, it’s that she trusts him, that she doesn’t need to know where he’s going. Although,
Alice: don’t go find a rookie surgeon again. No more dumpster diving.
Bex: What? Oh,
Alice: yeah.
Ellen: No, it’s . I’ve gotta go, I’ve gotta go to Michael’s place.
Bex: Yeah, I’m going to Michael’s.
Ellen: We’ve got some spying to do.
Bex: No, he’s,
Ellen: Well she’d be okay with that.
Bex: No, he’s going to a, he’s going to an AA meeting. He, [01:34:00] um, he stands up to, um, to share with the meeting and his sharing becomes the monologue that wraps up all of the loose threads for this episode. Um, so we see Jacob, we see, um, we see all the characters pretty much.
Um, some of it’s cute. So there’s a, a moment where we see Eddie, getting breakfast ready, and Christopher comes in, he’s just woken up and Eddie just grabs him into the biggest hug. And Chris asks, “What was that for?” And Eddie’s like, “eh, just because,” and Chris was like, yeah, okay, cool. Goes back in for another hug.
Ellen: Oh, it’s so sweet.
Alice: Who was watching Chris all night?
Bex: I don’t know. Don’t, don’t focus on that. I’ll,
Alice: Don’t pull the thread. Don’t pull the thread!
Bex: I’ll say I did have that same thought and then chose not to pursue it.
Ellen: But what I took away from it was that Chris [01:35:00] has, gives the best hugs.
Bex: Yeah.
Ellen: Looked like an amazing hug.
Alice: Yeah.
Ellen: Karen and Hen are saying goodbye to Nia before she heads off for her overnight stay. So she’s like, she’s doing really well with it. She’s like, “Okay, see you later!”
Alice: Yeah. “Bye mamas.” And so cute.
Ellen: Karen and Hen are like basically in tears, like a bit heartbreaking for them. Bobby’s saying that last night was a hard night, but I’m here and I didn’t have a drink.
So maybe today can be a good day and if today can be a good day, maybe tomorrow can be too. It’s like, well done Bobby.
Bex: I was just, I was just rolling through the transcript of his, um, monologue to see if he actually said the word blindsided. He doesn’t,
Alice: so, yay. Did we get, did we get to the whole episode without the title?
Ellen: No one said it at all?
Alice: How good is that?
Bex: No, it’s a, a thematic episode, I guess, where they don’t ram the theme [01:36:00] down your throat. You have to actually think about how all the storylines are on theme.
Alice: Oh, how good. What a good episode.
Ellen: We are not at the end yet.
Alice: I know, but I’m still happy about it. Um, turns out that Andrew Myers is a co-executive producer too, so Yeah. Shout out to Andrew Myers. Um,
Ellen: shows like this have a lot of executive producers.
Alice: I know, right?
Bex: Um, Peter Krause is an executive producer.
Alice: True. No, he’s, uh, yeah, he is too.
Bex: Yeah.
Alice: Cool.
Bex: So is Angela. Yeah. Okay, so to wrap it up, we’re gonna go back to
Alice: Buck being adorable? Yeah.
Bex: You know, we’re gonna check in with Madney and with Buck we’re going to, um, because Buck is meeting his niece via Zoom. And you all that comments we had about Dan, that’s a small baby. Um, yeah, it’s not small anymore.
Alice: Oh, it’s massive. Yeah. It’s, it’s a entire toddler. Like she’s
Ellen: no longer a newborn.
Alice: She’s getting her driver’s license next week.
Bex: Like, I was wondering, like, how, how much time has it been [01:37:00] since like baby was born and Buck’s meeting her for the first time that like four months, five months, six months have elapsed?
Alice: Are we sure this is the, I don’t think this is the first time, surely.
Bex: Well, it’s the first Uncle Buck.
Ellen: It’s the first time.
Alice: So the first Yeah. But still first.
Ellen: Yeah. But Dr. Heller wants him to wait a few more weeks, then you get to meet your Uncle Buck. So maybe it’s not the first time. But that he hasn’t met in person yet.
Bex: No. No. He hasn’t met in person. But I’m still that it’s either a very,
Alice: that’s the first time they’ve said Uncle Buck. Yeah.
Bex: It’s a very, very significant time jump from when baby was born to, um, to now, or they’ve just switched out the babies and suddenly forgotten what like this age group baby needs to be.
Ellen: I think it must be
Alice: anyway. Yeah. So the kid who’s getting its driver’s license just met, met her Uncle Buck, um, Maddie’s like, “Oops, Chimney just missed the first Uncle Buck,” and Buck’s like, “It’s okay, knowing him. I’m sure we’re in for about 10,000 more of those.” [01:38:00]
Um, and sure enough, Chimney then appears on screen and he goes, “Okay, I’m clean and ready to hold my girl. Oh, Uncle Buck, oh my God. Was I the first one? I was the first one. Right?” And they’re all like, mm-hmm. Yep. Mm-hmm. Yeah.
Ellen: Yeah. You were the first one.
Alice: First one that said Uncle Buck. Good job.
Bex: Um, so then literally hang up on Buck, like, Maddie, just
Alice: It’s so cute
Bex: just slam
Alice: like Buck’s. Like I’ll leave you guys to it. And then as Maddie’s like closing the laptop Buck’s, just like, “Buck loves you, Buck loves you, bye-bye-bye-bye!”
so cute.
Bex: But see, it also can’t be that long because, um, they’re only now
Ellen: They still haven’t named the baby
Bex: having a discussion about the fact that the baby doesn’t have a name. So it can’t have been that long. But, um, yes, Chimney is amazed that they let Maddie leave the hospital without naming the baby. Um, and she’s like, “oh, actually I did name it.”
Alice: Yeah, I picked a name.
Bex: She had to give him something.
Alice: Don’t be mad. Chim’s not sure if he’s [01:39:00] mad or relieved because the pressure’s off, but then he is like, “It’s not something I’m gonna hate, is it?”
Bex: So, baby’s name is Jee-Yun. And Chim is absolutely shocked because that was his mother’s name.
Alice: It’s like I bawled when he said that. Like I know, obviously I know what’s name is Sweet because she’s been in the show since this episode and when he’s just like, that’s my mother’s name. I’m like, yes, it’s your mother.
Bex: So Maddie explains that she called Mrs. Lee to tell her like everything that’s happened, you know, I had a baby, Albert nearly died. Um, and apparently Mrs. Lee just kept saying, I wish his mother was here to see, um, her being the baby I guess. And so that’s when Maddie knew that her name was going to be Jee-Yun Buckley Han
Ellen: Aw.
Alice: And Chim loves it.
Bex: Yes.
Alice: Um, and they’re really glad Albert’s okay. [01:40:00] And then Maddie’s just like “God, talk about bad luck.” Chim says, “No, I’m starting to think we’re just the luckiest people ever.”
Bex: No, boy.
Ellen: Why does she say, talk about bad luck? Who’s got bad luck,
Alice: Albert.
Ellen: Well, what else has happened to bad luck? Like Albert,
Alice: just Albert.
Bex: Yeah. It doesn’t really make sense.
Ellen: It’s bad luck that he had an accident on the day…
Alice: yeah. It was bad luck that he had an accident
Ellen: the baby was born?
Alice: Yeah. That he like was
Ellen: okay because the way she says, it’s like, it makes it sound like there are other bad luck things happening. I’m like,
Bex: no, not really.
Alice: I mean, be fair they’ve had a lot bad luck so
Ellen: Well over the years. Yes, I guess. But yeah, today not, not that many.
Bex: And so the episode ends with the, with Maddie and Chim and Jee-Yun on the couch just being all happy and lovey-dovey.
Ellen: Yeah.
Alice: They’re so cute.
Ellen: It’s like that [01:41:00] was a happy ending after all that drama. Very dramatic episode, but yes, excellent one. Yeah. Love this one. Whew. I’m exhausted after talking about it. What else can we say about it? It’s nice that, like I did, um, vaguely know that there, there was a, a child called Jee-Yun in the future, and now I’m glad to see that the baby is fine and it’s the same baby that we, that is happening later.
So that was good. I was really worried that something terrible was gonna happen with the pregnancy. But no,
Bex: 9-1-1, once again, not putting children at risk or putting children at risk, but not doing anything bad to them.
Alice: Not killing the babies.
Bex: Yeah.
Ellen: Yay.
Alice: Yep. Still to date, no killed babies in present time.
Ellen: Excellent.
Alice: Only in flashbacks.
Ellen: Hopefully that will not change.
Alice: I still wonder if it’s a ratings thing.
Bex: I’m gonna assume it’s just a decision that they’ve made.
Alice: Yeah. [01:42:00] If you work for the ratings board,
Ellen: look, it’s perfectly, I’m perfectly happy with the, that decision.
Alice: Oh, absolutely. Yeah. Um, but yeah, really good episode. I really like it. It was still tense on rewatch, uh, which I find like a lot of them aren’t as tense when you know that everyone’s gonna be okay. But this one I was still just like, oh my God. I know he survives, but like Albert, wake up.
Ellen: Yeah, right.
Bex: I made the mistake of rewatching the, the rescue scene specifically at work while I was doing the notes, and so trying very hard not to sob at my desk.
Alice: Yep.
Ellen: Aw. Yeah. And I love the way that they, um, there were a few points, well, at least two points in the, in it where you did weren’t quite sure what was happening, and they only gradually revealed what was actually going on. Like, especially that part with Albert, you don’t know that he was the one who was on the the 9-1-1 call.
Alice: Yeah. I really liked that. [01:43:00] Like I didn’t pick up on it until like it was mentioned and then I went back and was like, oh, that was really well done.
Bex: That was Albert’s voice, yeah.
Alice: Yeah. Yeah. Really good episode. Um, and that’s what frustrates me, as I said, when the show is bad because it can be so good. Like we, I understand that they can’t have like, you know, big dramatic like sob fests every week, but some of the episodes are just so bad.
Ellen: Alright, so what do we got look forward to next week?
Bex: I don’t know if we’re looking forward to it, um, but next week, we have the episode called “Parenthood”, in which the 118 responds to a series of calls dealing with parents and their children, including a disastrous birthday party thrown by a mommy blogger.
Meanwhile, Athena and Michael talk to May about her past suicide attempt. Chimney and Maddie adjust to life with their newborn, and [01:44:00] Hen and Karen are emotionally shattered as their foster daughter, Nia is reunited with her birth mother.
So triggers for next week, we have assisted suicide, um, abuse of power. I’m looking at you Hen, um, in their investigation of a biological mother after reunification. Uh, favorite bad parenting, cancer, flash back to May’s suicide attempt, um, and just the foster care system in general again.
Also mummy bloggers, that might be a trigger for you.
Alice: That is a fair trigger.
Bex: Yeah.
Ellen: Actually, having seen this episode already.
Bex: Yes. Have we mentioned that Ellen has watched ahead?
Alice: Yeah. So Ellen last, last night, decided to watch the entire rest of the season. Um,
Ellen: yes. Fair warning. I do know what’s coming, but that’s okay because it wasn’t anything that’s gonna [01:45:00] change the view of any, what happens in each episode.
Alice: Like we’re so close to the end anyway.
Ellen: But I’ll say that I got a taste of what it’s like to binge through without knowing what’s coming because I did not know anything about what was coming in this next episode. And it was a really difficult watch.
Bex: That’s a good point.
Ellen: Because I wasn’t expecting…
Bex: we do kind of spoil you for each episode because we tell you the summary I before, um, before you watch it
Ellen: and then and the triggers. Yeah. But I, I, I don’t mind that because it means I’ve. I can be emotionally prepared for what’s coming kind of thing. Whereas in this episode, I didn’t know what was coming and then all of a sudden this woman is trying to commit suicide and refusing to be, you know, revived or whatever. And I’m just like, oh my God, this is so horrible. But anyway,
Alice: so much happened in this episode. I’m just, I’m trying to write the last week on 9-1-1 summary and I’m just like, oh my God, everything happened.
Bex: Albert really very busy, nearly [01:46:00] got reincarnated as Chimney’s
Alice: his niece?
Bex: daughter.
Ellen: Yeah, that would’ve been funny if the, not, not funny but weird. It would’ve been a good storyline if like Albert had died and then all of a sudden Jee-Yun started
Bex: and all of sudden Jee-Yun was born.
Alice: Yeah, that’s seriously what I thought they were gonna do.
Bex: Oh yeah. I think, I think that was the, in intentional misdirect
Ellen: Yeah well, it was heading for that, right? That was, yeah, that totally thought.
Alice: That like, like Chim was gonna be like, oh my God, best day ever. And then Buck would turn up and be like, yeah, Albert’s dead. It’s like, oh fuck
Bex: yeah. Yeah. The universe said there was only room for one more Han.
Alice: Yeah.
Ellen: Yeah. One’s gotta get out. Dead man’s boots, you know? Oh God. Okay. All right. Let us know what you thought about this episode. Uh, were you on the edge of your seat, like the rest of us? Um, what do you think they should have called the baby? No, we already know, knew that her name was Jee-Yun, so no, no other names necessary. Uh, how many [01:47:00] boxes of tissues did you go through while watching this particular episode?
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Alice: “Parenthood”
Ellen: “Parenthood”. See you then.
Alice: Bye
Bex: Bye.
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