Welcome to That Weewoo Show: a podcast where Ellen, Bex and Alice watch and discuss every episode of ABC’s TV show, 9-1-1.
In this episode we discuss episode 12 of the fourth season of 9-1-1, titled “Treasure Hunt”.
When a famous mystery writer dies, Athena, Bobby and the 118 respond to the chaos caused by a city-wide manhunt for buried treasure the author left behind.
Content warnings for episode 4.12:
cheating, drowning threat in a septic tank
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Episode Transcript
Maddie: [00:00:00] 9-1-1, what’s your emergency?
Bex: Welcome back to That WeeWoo Show, a podcast where we watch and discuss episodes of the A, B, C show, 9-1-1. I’m Bex.
Alice: I’m Alice.
Ellen: And I’m Ellen.
Bex: As we say every week, thank you so much to everyone who has listened to our past episodes, who have shared our social media posts, who have commented on said social media posts or their podcast platform of choice, or who and or who have rated our podcast on Spotify or Apple Podcasts, all of the ways that you can let us know that you are listening, that we aren’t just sitting here talking to ourselves, which honestly we don’t mind. We would quite happily do that every week.
Alice: Yeah, we’re very happy just talking [00:01:00] to each other, but it’s good that people are listening
Bex: occasionally it’s nice when we, you know, scream into the void and the void screams back at us. Um, like Ella this week who screamed back at us on Spotify letting us know their thoughts about the episode “Parenthood”. So thank you so much for that. We really do appreciate it, especially because they agreed with us and we do like that
Ellen: we’re, we’re okay with people disagreeing too. But we do love it when people agree.
Bex: We do love a friendly disagreement, but we also love friendly agreement.
Ellen: Yes.
Bex: Uh, so before we get into this week’s episode, Alice, would you kindly remind everybody what happened in last week’s episode?
Alice: So last week on 9-1-1, Sue from dispatch was injured in a hit and run, which ended up being tied to a kidnapping and Josh began and saved the day. Uh, also the 118 were there,
Ellen: but Josh was star
Bex: the bad 118 [00:02:00]
Ellen: the bad place 118?
Bex: The bad place 118.
Alice: The bad place 118.
Ellen: Alright, so in this episode, this is episode 12, which is a hard right turn from last week’s episode basically. Um, this is “Treasure Hunt”. It aired on the 10th of May in 2021, and it’s, the official summary says, when a famous mystery writer dies, Athena, Bobby, and the 118 respond to the chaos caused by a citywide manhunt for buried treasure.
The author left behind. And we, and we have very mild triggers this week, um, involving cheating and um, a drowning threat in a septic tank. And other than that, it is pure hilarity and maybe we could have like a warning for just people doing stupid shit. I dunno, this, this episode was so much fun, [00:03:00] but oh my god,
Alice: yes.
Ellen: Some of the decisions made
Alice: so dumb. It was so good. Yeah, in a rare twist of events, like there’s some episode, most of the episodes I really like the first time I watch and then the second time I watch, I’m like, yeah, okay. That was really dumb. Um, and it’ll probably change as we break it down, but I actually really preferred this the second time I watched it.
I dunno if it’s because I know Ravi more as a character, so I was more involved in like his part of it as well. Um. Yeah, the first time I just sort of like checked out halfway through this time I was so involved. I was like, yeah, get the treasure.
Bex: Alright, well let’s, let’s get that treasure as Alice said. So we are going to start the episode on a nature hike where Emma and her dad are, I think they’re birdwatching, or at least Emma seems to be very knowledgeable about the birds that she’s noticing on their hike.
Ellen: Isn’t
Alice: Emma’s [00:04:00] birdwatching at least.
Ellen: Isn’t it a plant? She’s, she finds one called Artemisia californica, but she says it’s a sage brush.
Bex: I assumed it was a bird. One moment please.
Alice: I thought it was a bird too!
Ellen: Sagebrush is a plant.
Bex: It is indeed a plant. It’s also known as, um, Cowboy Cologne.
Alice: Okay. So they’re plant watching, which is.
Bex: Not as interesting.
Alice: Interesting.
Ellen: She just knows a lot about, you know, botany for some reason
Bex: it is apparently in the same family as the Sunflower.
Alice: Oh, there you go.
Ellen: But her dad liked it better when she knew the names of dolls.
Bex: Yeah. Her father could care less.
Ellen: This girl’s like, “Dad, I never played with the dolls.” It’s like, no, she’s too interested in learning the names of random plants.
Alice: Good on her.
Bex: And unlike a lot of the cold opens that we get on this show, these two are not at threat. Nothing horrible is going to befall Emma or her father. [00:05:00] Um,
Ellen: They’re just having a lovely sunny walk through the forest
Bex: where they are going to lead us to the first emergency episode because Emma fishes a bottle out of the river that appears to have a message in it.
Ellen: Yeah, it, it’s funny ’cause it starts with the like, they’re walking through the forest and there’s this nice calm music, and then they find the bottle and it starts getting a little bit mysterious. And then she goes,
Bex: oh, the music takes an immediate 180 turn when they, when they pull the note outta the bottle. Um, and there’s blood smear on it. And the note, very helpful.
I mean, we always, we make, we talk shit about people not being incredibly informative when they make 9-1-1 calls. This note is, I think, even worse.
Alice: Yeah. Considering like, it could have ended up anywhere.
Ellen: Yeah. Well, I, I don’t know what this guy was hoping that, like the stream doesn’t look like it’s got a lot of water in it, so I don’t know how, what he was hoping [00:06:00] it would do, but anyway, they’re lucky that someone, um, stumbled on it.
But anyway, they call 9-1-1 and Maddie takes the call. Of course.
Bex: Of course.
Ellen: And it was. Like this call is also like, he’s totally not being helpful because she asked, like he says, “I think someone’s trapped on a cliff.” And Maddie’s like, “do you have a more precise location?” And he says, “Um, upstream?”
Bex: To be fair. I mean, that’s pretty much all he’s working with.
Alice: Yep. That’s all he knows,
Bex: he’s, he’s in Malibu Creek Park, and he assumes the bottle came from somewhere upstream of the river. It’s not like there are mile markers on the path that they’re walking that he can give Maddie. So Maddie is, um, in, it’s one of those calls where somebody’s reporting in, but they can’t give her enough information.
So she’s questioning like, “why are you even calling 9-1-1? What makes you think someone’s trapped?” And the the father says, “Well, we found a message in a bottle,” and we get to see the note, which literally just [00:07:00] says, “help, I’m trapped on a cliff. Call 9-1-1.”
Alice: Yeah, like, thank you?
Bex: You, no latitude and longitude, no kind of locations, no name, no nothing.
Ellen: I mean he, when they find him later, he is kind of delirious. So maybe he just thought it was a good idea at the time, but who knows how long ago he actually sent the bottle down the creek.
Bex: I think we Do. We figure that?
Ellen: No. Well, they get the date from the receipt that that’s written on, but that’s obviously when he bought something.
Bex: Yeah, he says he’s been there for five days. They’re not sure.
Ellen: Yeah. Yeah.
Bex: But we’re getting ahead of ourselves slightly. So Search and rescue are deployed. Rescue Helicopter is deployed. The 118 are deployed.
Ellen: Yeah. Where is this? Okay, look, I’m just gonna Google this quickly. Where is Malibu State Park? I’m interested. Oh, that’s miles away. Oh my God.
Bex: Um, so the helicopter…
Ellen: Okay, [00:08:00] sorry
Bex: the helicopter.
Ellen: It’s not that far from Santa Monica, but still, how, how did the 118 anyway, nevermind. We’ve,
Alice: and also why gone through him and Maddie working at the same time? Who’s looking after the child?
Ellen: Oh, yeah.
Bex: Mrs. Lee?
Alice: I guess so. Albert? Who can’t, can hardly dress himself?
Bex: That’s, that’s a really good point. I guess somebody forgot about that.
Ellen: We don’t know how long it’s been since the last episode, do we? No, I don’t think we get any indication.
Alice: Yeah. Jee’s actually 17 at this point. Yeah, she’s good.
Ellen: She’s fine. She’s fine on her own.
Alice: Um, she’s just doing her thing. You know how it is,
Bex: I wonder I wonder if this was a kind of episode that they just threw in here, but it got filmed earlier, so it’s out of sequence.
Ellen: It could be. Although Maddie’s not pregnant.
Bex: No. No, but it’s, I, I don’t know. I just, I’m, I would not put it past the [00:09:00] writers to have forgotten about the fact that Maddie and Chim are supposed to be on opposite shifts in order that someone was doing childcare.
Um, I am trying to give them the benefit of the doubt by going, oh, it was because this episode was supposed to go somewhere earlier in the season and they left it till later. I’m apparently feeling very generous tonight with the writers.
Ellen: Maddie’s not in this episode very much so they, I don’t know if they actually show her tummy at all.
Alice: Look, she’s, she’s probably just, um, hanging with Mrs. Lee. It’s fine.
Bex: Yeah, we’ll go with that. Um, I’m giving the writer some grace ’cause I’m gonna rip into them later on this episode. So,
Ellen: okay.
Bex: Um, so Fire Rescue one comes in to pick up two of the paramedics to take them on a flyover of the, the park and Bobby nominates Chim and Eddie to go. And Buck is literally pouting as Eddie goes to get harnessed up.
Alice: He’s, he’s so jealous. He’s
Ellen: absolutely,
Alice: he’s like, “oh man, someone [00:10:00] else gets to go in a helicopter with my boyfriend.”
Ellen: Enough that enough that Chim tells him he can go next time,
Bex: but I don’t know if he’s more upset about the fact that it’s, he doesn’t get to go with Eddie or if it’s the fact that he doesn’t get to go in the helicopter.
Alice: Yeah, a bit of both.
Bex: So Chim and Eddie get flown over the, um, the state park and luckily for them, their, uh, their target is quite easy to spot because he is on top of a large rocky, outcropping with a lime green kind of tent, which is very easy to see.
Ellen: Yeah. And he is standing up and waving as well, which is a good sign.
Bex: Yes.
Ellen: Okay. So this bit, I was like, I, I meant to look this up actually, to see how realistic this is, because Eddie gets lowered down from the helicopter, right? Yes. And then he lands on the rock and he doesn’t unclip or anything. He just stands there. And I’m like, is this really dangerous? Because helicopter,
Bex: what if the helicopter [00:11:00] suddenly got blown off course?
Ellen: Yeah. If the helicopter, like, how stationary can a helicopter be in midair? Like, I know they’re fairly stationary, but like, wouldn’t it be safer…
Bex: Yes. I think safety wise, if anything happened to the helicopter, like you can imagine Eddie’s reaching to the victim to help them, and all of a sudden the winds change or something and the helicopter gets blown sideways and Eddie just gets it ripped off the rock and starts swinging.
Um, I, I didn’t notice that too.
Ellen: For the drama. Um,
Bex: but for the, for the drama, they don’t unclip him. He stays clipped up while he talks to Clyde. Um, who is not particularly interested in talking to, in like being rescued. He just wants to know if there are any willow trees around this particular area. Um,
Alice: totally normal thing to ask, you know how it is.
Bex: Yeah,
Ellen: yeah. Um, Chim’s knows from up in the helicopter that this guy is [00:12:00] severely dehydrated. He’s got the magic, uh, you know,
Bex: like he doesn’t even have to be within arm’s reach of them anymore. He can do it from like 50 feet up in the air. It’s amazing.
Ellen: Yeah, he’s good. He’s good. Yeah. Um, anyway, when Eddie gets down there, he hands the hands a bottle of electrolytes to the guy and he asks Clyde how long he’s been there and everything.
And it turns out that Clyde’s actually broken his foot, his ankle, and so it’s all swollen up and it looks horrible. They did a good job with the makeup on that one. It looks really nasty.
Alice: Um, it does look really nasty. Maybe they actually broke his ankle
Bex: meth method, acting.
Ellen: That’s method acting. Eddie’s like, “we’re gonna get you out of here.” And Clyde’s like, “no, no, no, just gimme painkillers or something. I’m gonna stay here and keep looking.” And Eddie’s like, “no, you’re coming with me.” And puts the harness around him and they, you know, fly back up to the [00:13:00] helicopter, basically.
Bex: Yeah. Ascend back up to the heavens, and, and they return them back to the, the staging area.
Ellen: Thank you for this fun fact here. I did not know that.
Bex: It’s so fun, isn’t it? So, um, for those of you who can’t read my notes, uh, did you know that despite the fact that we break down the word helicopter to be like a copter or um, a chopper, um, that is not the actual origin of the word. It’s not a helio and a copter.
Um, it’s actually helico, which means “spiral wing” in Greek.
Ellen: Yeah, there you go. I needed to learn something today.
Bex: Don’t say you never learn anything in this podcast
Alice: full of fun facts, just like Buck is.
Ellen: Oh, he is full of fun facts in this episode. All right. But anyway, we’re not there yet. Um, they [00:14:00] get back to the staging area, um, and Hen and Buck bring the gurney over so they can get Clyde out of the helicopter and take him off to hospital. Oh, he says, this is where Chim says he’s kind of delirious and I think it’s just he’s not that delirious.
He just doesn’t wanna tell them what he’s been doing.
Bex: I don’t know. The, the ravings of a madman, when they get him onto the, um, the gurney and start to wheel him away, it could be, um, could be chalked up to delirium because as they are wheeling him back towards the rescue ambulance after Bobby and Hen have both chastised him for, you know, not using his phone for its, you know, the, the purpose for which God intended it, which is to call for help.
Um, he tells them that he didn’t wanna leave. He was so close, he didn’t want anyone else to find the treasure. It was his, the treasure’s his Don’t tell anyone, don’t let anyone take it. It’s his, the treasure is his. And he keeps repeating that as they wheel him away [00:15:00]
Ellen: As soon as he says the word treasure, Buck’s eyes just light up. He’s standing in the background and he’s just like, treasure. What?
Bex: Oh. But then we get like this beautiful shot where the camera sort of pans up and it’s Bobby and Buck posing in front of the helicopter, which is still spinning with the sunlight burning behind them brightly.
And, and Buck Exposition Firefighter just says, “Did he say treasure?”
Ellen: And in fact, it takes a little while to realize that it’s not just Buck who’s inspired by this, but Bobby is also getting his, the wheels are turning, but I think it probably takes him a little while to get really invested in it. But, oh, oh, dear. As as just, as soon as Buck said that. I was just like, oh, here we go.
Don’t say that in front of Buck. He’s gonna run with that.
Bex: Well, um, and Clyde and Buck are correct. There was a treasure because a. [00:16:00] What are we gonna say? He’s a crime writer, a detective writer, murder mysteries, um,
Alice: murder mystery, I guess?
Bex: Murder, murder. Mystery author Hollis Harcourt, um, allegedly passed away in his sleep, leaving behind an intriguing message to his loyal fans, which was that he has buried a chest of treasure somewhere in the city of Los Angeles.
And the treasure is rare and priceless, but if you had to put a price on it for tax reasons, it’d be about $5 million. And Taylor is reporting this on Channel eight News. Apparently Hollis has made a video message, which they are playing through the, the news segment. Um, the 118 are all watching this back at the station house with varying responses.
Some of them look absolutely dumbfounded. Some of them are like, are you serious, Eddie? His eyes are bulging out of his head as soon as he hears it’s $5 million. [00:17:00] And the the trick is that, um, Hollis has written a poem or a riddle giving clues as to the location of the treasure. So then we cut to the 118.
All, they’re all individually on their phones reading the same poem.
Alice: Yeah, it’s terrible poem. It’s a, yeah.
Ellen: Terrible. It’s, it sounds like a kid’s riddle. Like it sounds like Dr. Seuss like, well, maybe not that far. That’s sort of like an insult to Dr. Seuss. But, um, I mean if you, if you’re trying to think up clues and making them rhyme, then like, I guess he’s done a fine job, but it’s not exactly literally masterpiece.
Bex: No, no, definitely not. Buck is a intrigued about the idea of a real life treasure hunt. Um, and you can see the, like the. The interest starting, he’s starting to put the feelers out. Like, wouldn’t that be kind of [00:18:00] cool if there was a treasure hunt? Everybody else immediately shoots him down.
Ellen: Yeah. They’re like, stupid, reckless, probably not even real. And he’s like, “yeah, but what if it is, we could find it.”
Bex: I think the, the rest of the 118 are more concerned with the fact that everybody else in LA is going to think that the treasure is real and that their friend Clyde is not going to be, is likely not the last emergency that they are going to see.
And Eddie puts in a little bit of a passive aggressive jab at Buck by saying that,
Alice: oh, it’s a, yeah, it’s a dig.
Bex: “Your girlfriend’s news story is probably not gonna help out with that.” And Buck
Alice: Buck’s like “she’s my friend, not my girlfriend, she’s just doing her job.”
Bex: She’s recording the news and Eddie gives a like, yeah, right. Look in response and like, edmondo, just ’cause you are getting some, doesn’t mean that you can make fun of Buck.
And the fact is you are getting some, so why are you worried about what’s going on with Buck? [00:19:00] Like, be happy with Ana.
Ellen: Ana’s not even in this episode at all.
Alice: Ana who?
Ellen: Yeah. But um, but Taylor like actually calls Buck and he’s like, I just saw you on the tv.
Bex: She wasn’t a rerun this time.
Ellen: No. Like, do you, is that how you always answer calls to Taylor because you seem to be watching her on the TV a lot.
But anyway, she has just like finished giving the. You know, the cross that she was just doing, and she wanted to check out that because she heard a rumor that the 118 responded to a call. I don’t, how does she hear this rumor? I don’t know. She’s got feelers in all over the place, apparently.
Bex: She’s probably got a police scanner in the van and she can pick up on dispatch calls
Ellen: maybe. But yeah. Um, Buck sort of says that the treasure hunter guy didn’t find anything. Um, like the whole thing’s probably fake. Right? And Taylor’s [00:20:00] basically talking him into it. She’s like, I’m not so sure. And so they, they, they decide to compare notes and see if they can team up and find it together?
Bex: Yes, there are.
They’re going to be doing a public service by finding the treasure so that nobody else gets hurt looking for the treasure.
Alice: Yeah. It’s, it’s totally out of the goodness of their own hearts.
Bex: Oh yeah. Totally selfless.
Ellen: Yeah. And no one, no one else will, will get hurt.
Bex: Everybody wins if they find the treasure and then Buck,
Alice: especially Buck and Taylor
Bex: Buck looks over the rest of the 118 and he goes, “Well, maybe not everybody,” ’cause they’re all in the kitchen. Oblivious to the scheme that he’s hatching with Taylor.
Ellen: For now.
Bex: For now. Yes. So last week I was wondering where Romero was. Romero was back this week, which
Ellen: I wanna know what else Athena has walked in on because she walks in and they’re all clustered around a [00:21:00] computer screen and she’s like, “please tell me that’s not porn or sport.”
Like what kind of question is that? Like
Bex: probably a legitimate one, although y sport is equated with porn. I don’t know.
Alice: Yeah, right.
Bex: Um, but it’s,
Ellen: it’s just a weird thing to, uh, to say,
Bex: um, especially considering Romero outranks her. Um, anyway, it’s neither porn nor sports. Um, the officers of the LAPD are instead watching Hollis’s video about the treasure.
And Romero informs her that apparently a guy buried 5 million somewhere in the city and then told people to go out and find it. And Athena is, is very. Very over this. She says that she misses the days when bored rich people would just name wings of museums in the hospitals after themselves. Have we talked to this misguided citizen about this hair-brained idea?
And Romero informs her that they, he wishes that [00:22:00] they could, but the dude’s dead. Then it’s like, “Right. Did we post uniforms at his grave?” And Romero just looks at her like, uh,
Alice: why would we do that?
Bex: Athena’s like, “You know that’s the first place they’re gonna start looking for the treasure.” And Romero is like, “yeah, that’s that. That’s a good point. Hey, um, hey, hey Kev. Go and, um, go and check out the grave site for me, would you? Thanks.”
Alice: At least someone’s thinking, thanks, Athena.
Bex: Yes. Her work done, she walks away,
Ellen: like she walks away, but Romero follows her and he is like, “How bad do you think this is going to get?” And I’m like, she’s only just found out about it. Why are you asking her?
Bex: Because apparently she’s the one with the brains of the operation.
Ellen: Yeah, I mean she, and also she’s had experience in like, you know, the whole city hunting for treasure. I don’t know. But
Bex: also it’s Angela Bassett and she has to be the one in control because
Alice: That’s right.
Bex: She’s Angela Bassett.
Alice: It’s part of her contract.
Bex: Exactly. [00:23:00] Um,
Ellen: but no, she does make a good point. She says that everyone’s, you know, getting stir crazy from the lockdowns and this is the first chance that people get to get out there and look for stuff. So they’re gonna do it. Everyone’s gonna do it.
Bex: See, they should have just done Pokemon Go like everybody else.
Ellen: Yeah.
Bex: But no, this treasure hunt is going to send them over the edge. Um, and then we get, I think, one of my favorite needle drops of this season, which is ” One Way or Another” by Blondie as
Alice: That’s great. Yeah.
Bex: As we get a montage of
Ellen: great choice.
Bex: Um, everybody searching for the treasure and the 118 responding when the search goes wrong. And the 9-1-1 Dispatch is being absolutely run off their feet with the volume of calls of coming in.
Ellen: And Taylor is getting like, you know, making the money by going around and reporting on all of the things.
Bex: Oh yeah, she’s having a great time.
Ellen: This the, this, uh, [00:24:00] first bit she does, there’s this woman who gets out of an ambulance and she has an entire tree branch through her shoulder,
Bex: which has not been stabilized by gauze at all. They’re just letting her sit there. No,
Ellen: it’s still sticking through. I don’t, I don’t know how this has happened.
Bex: I do love that she’s, she notices the camera and then she just kind of like tries to put her hand, like her free hand over her face to shield herself so that nobody knows that it’s her.
Ellen: It’s the second serious injury. Uh, apparently next there is a fight in Balboa Park that Maddie takes the call of, and these Maddie says, “Are they armed?” And this woman says, “Sort of,” and turns out these two guys are like trying to whack each other with metal detectors.
Bex: Yeah, dueling metal detectors. Yeah. Um, so we’ve got the woman with the tree branch through her shoulder. We’ve got dueling metal detectors in Balboa Park. At Griffith [00:25:00] Park there is a man trapped under a bear statue ’cause he was trying to dig under it and it fell on him. But what I, what I love is that every time 9-1-1 dispatches get a call they cross a name off a list.
’cause they’ve got a, like a betting pool going on a whiteboard where they think the treasure is
Alice: I love the dispatch betting pool. It’s so good.
Bex: And so like they get the call about the guy under the bear statue and once Buck and Eddie and Bobby use their tools to get the guy out, they report back to 9-1-1 that the guy is fine, they’ve got him out and they have the dispatchers, somebody crosses Bear Park statue on Griffith Park off the list and Jamal has to pay up because apparently that was his pick.
Ellen: But I think the 118 are also like keeping tabs on the, on what’s been done kind of thing.
Bex: Yeah. ’cause Eddie makes a comment
Ellen: They [00:26:00] mention it to each other
Bex: that he’s also crossing it off a list, but I don’t think it’s as, um, structured as the dispatchers. And I’m guessing the 118 don’t have money on it the way, uh, Linda’s collecting money for hers for theirs.
Ellen: Yeah. Surprising. In the past they have done this sort of thing, but
Alice: maybe Bobby put an into it this time.
Bex: Uh, Taylor seems to just be hanging out at the hospital, um, and she lets us know that. I think it’s towards the end of the day that the latest numbers show six hospitalizations and 17 arrests since the treasure hunt was announced. Um, and then a, a woman comes running up to her getting on camera screaming that it’s a hoax and begging people to stop risking their lives.
And when Taylor tries to brush her off and return to her to camera piece, the woman literally grabs the microphone from Taylor and says, “My husband almost died. More people are gonna die.” And she is not [00:27:00] wrong because the next emergency, the 118, a dispatch to, is a guy who is using a mini excavator to dig, but he has not dialed before he dug. Um,
Ellen: oh God.
Bex: And his mini excavator, um, goes through a gas line.
Ellen: I don’t know how Bobby knows that this is going to happen. The, someone obviously is called to set to say, this guy’s digging in the park. And then the 118 have turned up… I guess, that they were just running away to get out the way.
Bex: I’m going to say that the way that Bobby was racing towards him, telling him that he had to stop digging, somebody has looked up the gas lines and the gas mains and realize that there is a gas line under that park. And so Bobby is well aware that if he digs it could end badly, which it does. Um, so like Bobby says, Bobby, you
Ellen: One of the guys jumps through the window
Bex: Eddie dives through the [00:28:00] window of the cab and
Alice: it’s the best. It’s so good.
Bex: Like everybody else just runs around behind the truck and Eddie is like feet dangling out the window as he tries, as he like slides across the backseat. And of course, the guy digs and saves the gas man and there is an explosion and the gazebo that he was next to is on fire and the gas is on fire and it’s quite impressive.
Um, but also,
Ellen: yeah, they have fun with this one. Like the, the, uh, stunts team or whatever, the effects people.
Bex: Yes. I mean, stunts and effects sort of had so much fun ’cause they got to play with a helicopter. I wonder if they actually let Ryan play on the helicopter or how much of that was just like, effects and stunts, or whether they actually did get a helicopter in place and let him get lowered down from it. ‘Cause that’d be cool. And then they got to blow shit up.
Ellen: Blowing shit up is always fun.
Bex: It is.
Ellen: Uh, I think the man has, he [00:29:00] survives, like they, they pull him out of the excavator and
Bex: Oh yeah.
Ellen: To the ambulance. So hopefully he made it.
Bex: I mean, I think it was just the gas that ignited and the gazebo and because the 118 were already there, they could probably get the hoses onto it pretty quickly. Hopefully Jamal turned the gas off for them too. “What do you mean? There’s no gas outage in that area?” I’m never gonna let him, I’m never gonna let, let him live that down.
Ellen: No, it’s, it’s, uh, it’s a good bit. Um, back at the station house, Eddie and Buck cleaning the truck. It already looks pretty clean, but, you know, Buck’s giving it a polish anyway,
Bex: it’s probably just busy work. Gives ’em something to do.
Ellen: Yeah. Um, Eddie notices that everyone’s working alone, like no one’s teaming up. I don’t know, like maybe that’s just the calls they’ve been to. Everyone’s been working solo and he says, “Two brains are better than one. What if we worked on it together and split the five million 50 [00:30:00] 50?” And, um, Buck looks so disappointed.
He’s like, “Ah, sorry, I already made a deal with Taylor.” And, um, and Eddie’s like, oh.
Alice: I know, Eddie pouts and Buck just, Buck just melts. He’s just like, “Aw, okay.”
Ellen: Well how about 33 and a third?
Bex: It’s absolutely that parents like, oh my God, it’s gonna be easier just to agree with you than fight with you about this. Fine. Yeah, I’m giving in.
Put the bottom lip away please. Um, so while Buck is okay with 33 and a third, Taylor is not okay with 33 a third, um, she has agreed with 50 50 with Buck, and if Buck wants to bring Eddie in, he needs to split his portion of the prize money with Eddie. They’re not touching hers, um, mostly because she’s already, um, struck up a [00:31:00] deal with her cameraman.
Alice: Yeah. So they’re actually now splitting it four ways. Yes. Yeah, splitting it four ways is, that’s still more than a million each, but as Taylor says, 25% of nothing is still nothing.
Bex: Yes. Because they, they don’t know where the treasure is,
Ellen: but they’re having a good go at guessing. ’cause they do have a map with like pins stuck all over it.
So Eddie reckons that the willow tree thing could be, there’s something called an ar, Arroyo Willow and the others are like, “it’s not a tree, more like a shrub.” So it’s obviously they’ve also done the research.
Alice: Yeah, yeah. Like Taylor and Buck are,
Ellen: they’ve been over
Alice: they’re deep in it and yeah, Eddie’s literally just goes, “I’ll just be over here then thinking by myself. Go team,”
Bex: I’ll be in my room making no noise and pretending I don’t exist.
Ellen: Yes.
Alice: But yeah, interestingly the framing here as well has like Buck and Taylor working together and Eddie right in between [00:32:00] them.
Ellen: But he’s pouting over in the corner.
Alice: He is pouting over in the corner.
Bex: So much pouting in this episode.
Ellen: He’s drinking beer too. He’s like muttering to himself, like,
Bex: yeah, yeah,
Ellen: “go team” and drinking beer.
Bex: Uh, but the very funny, they’ve decided, or Taylor has decided that they need some more data to rule out some of their options, and Buck has an idea. So the next day we return to the 118 where it looks like Buck and Eddie are getting ready to start their shift.
And Ravi is coming off the B shift. He’s getting ready to leave and Buck and Eddie do like, it’s not. Like Buck being surprised at his surprise party level of bad acting. Um, but it’s still, it’s very like, “oh wow. I wonder how many dumb treasure hunt calls we’re gonna get today.”
Alice: Wink, [00:33:00]
Bex: Ravi, bless him, is probably so tired from being on for 24 hours he just does not pick up what these two are putting down, and he’s,
Alice: I think, Ravi’s just excited that Buck’s not yelling at him today.
Bex: He is probably so excited that they are talking to him, like, because this is the A team, these are like the heroes of the 118. Like, oh my God, they’re the celebrities, they’re talking to me, and he cannot wait to tell them about all of the amazing calls that the B shift went on. While Buck is mentally taking notes of all of the things that Ravi is telling him.
Alice: It’s to the point where I’m honestly like, I was surprised that Buck didn’t just get like a little, like notepad out of his pocket and like his finger and flick it through and start writing down like
Ellen: It does have that kind of energy.
Bex: My head canon is that his phone is set to record.
Ellen: Oh, maybe.
Bex: So he is recording everything Ravi said for Taylor to go through later.
Ellen: Yes. But then we cut, we do cut to silence though. [00:34:00] And outside of the Glass Fish tank, that is the changing room. The, the locker room. Um, Chim and Hen are standing there watching them and they’re like squinting at them and like “You feel that Hen?” And she, “we’ve been left out in the cold,” so they decide that they’re gonna join in now.
Bex: Yes. So it’s gonna be Hen and Chim versus Buck and Eddie.
Ellen: I don’t know how they know just from talking to Ravi.
Bex: The same way that Chim knows from 50 feet up, that a man is severely dehydrated.
Ellen: Maybe they’re just really good at lip reading or something.
Bex: Maybe they’ve just got a sixth sense.
Ellen: Mm. Or that they just can see that Buck and Eddie are doing their really bad acting and they’re, yeah, like they’re up to something.
Bex: Why else would they be talking to the Probie? Like there’s no reason.
Alice: Yeah. Why else would they talk to the Probie?
Ellen: maybe they had the same idea. Yeah. But, but [00:35:00] Buck and Eddie got there first.
Bex: Uh, back at the dispatch center, we are crossing the Griffith Observatory off the list, um, which Josh thinks is hilarious.
Uh, apparently that was Linda’s guess because Hollis’s fifth book Stabbed Beneath the Stars took place at the Griffith Park Observatory. Meanwhile, Maddie Is continuing to work while everyone else is having fun. And she takes a call from a man who is, um, saying that there are ants everywhere. And so the 118 are dispatched to a park where there is a man rolling around in the dirt covered in quote unquote ants, which I am guessing a CGI.
Since we have learned that insects do not show up on screen or on camera.
Ellen: Mm-hmm. Apparently he, this guy has stepped into a whole colony of fire ants.
Alice: Yes.
Ellen: And yes, they are [00:36:00] infesting Southeast Queensland and they, they, oh, it’s, it’s a whole thing. Um, they’re, they’re doing like a, it’s, it’s been going on for years and years actually.
They’ve been gradually spreading. And they’re really dangerous and they’ve been spraying like they’ve been doing, the government’s been doing some spraying and it’s affecting the other insect populations like bees. Of course, it’s are really at risk from this spraying business and I mean, we don’t want fire ants, but we also
Bex: kind of need bees
Ellen: want other insects. Yeah. So, yeah, it’s a bit controversial and um, I don’t know the full details of it, so I won’t go into it, but yeah. Yeah, we have them. Like, apparently if they bite you, they, that this, I dunno if this reaction is like extremely realistic, but they do hurt like hell. And if you have more than a few bites, then you can, you, you do need to go and get, you know, checked out at least at emergency kind of thing. But apparently the, the bite and the pain can last [00:37:00] for hours to days kind of thing.
Bex: Yeah. ’cause apparently, um, more fun facts for our listeners. Ant bites, the ants will bite you and then just spray an acid onto the wound. Um, but
Ellen: nice
Bex: Fire ants will actually bite you and then release venom into the wound.
Ellen: Mm-hmm.
Bex: And the particular venom is an alkaloid venom, which causes an extreme burning sensation under the skin, which is why they’re called fire ants. So yes, I can imagine that if you’re getting mass doses of venom injected into your skin and getting into your bloodstream, um, it would be incredibly, incredibly dangerous.
Ellen: Yeah. The funny thing that with this scene is that they blow the ants off this guy with the fire hose,
Bex: and then they leave him there?
Ellen: And then they just leave him lying on the ground.
Bex: Yes.
Ellen: And treat him right there. They’re all just kneeling in the middle of the ant nest.
Bex: Yes. I would’ve [00:38:00] thought, like, what, like isn’t the first thing of, um, responding to his emergency is that, you know, assess the danger and then you get the person away from said danger.
Ellen: Yeah. Remove the patient from the danger. Yeah.
Bex: Wouldn’t you get him, like, wash the ants off him as much as you can and then get him out of the ant colony? Because like, yes, they get the ants off him, but like Chim and Hen are kneeling down amidst the colony. Surely there are other ants coming up through the incredibly inaccurate anthill colonies.
Alice: No, they’ve just vanished at this point. It’s fine.
Ellen: The thing with ants is that they, if they’re, uh, under threat, yes. They will all come out and start attacking as well.
Bex: So you’ve, you’ve got Buck standing like three feet away slapping himself, like Psychosomatically feeling that he’s got ants on himself.
Yet Chim and Hen are kneeling amidst the ant colony. And they’re fine
Alice: anyway. For the drama
Ellen: Anyway. For the drama, they treat this guy. Yes. Um, he’s got like these like bite, like they look like, almost like [00:39:00] pustules, like these bites all over from He’s this eyes all swollen up. Yes. And like, ugh.
Bex: Uh, but he’s breathing so he’s not having an anaphylax, like a major, a major anaphylaxis reaction.
Um, they push him full of drugs, including morphine for the pain. ’cause I can imagine that would be excruciating. Um, and they get him into the ambulance and as they’re doing, so Eddie ponders why he chose to dig in that spot, particularly. Um, Chim very cheerfully says to Eddie, “Well, I guess you’ll never know,” slams the doors shut.
Um, but then Hen goes, “Yeah, why did you think to dig out here?”
Ellen: And the guy just eyes them with his one good eye and they’ve give, they’ve, they’ve given him morphine for the pain. So he they’ve given him morphine for the pain, so he’s high as a kite. He doesn’t give a shit about the treasure anymore. It’s [00:40:00] like, uh,
Bex: uh, completely random, completely useless scene at LAPD, um, which shows that, that a lot of people are being arrested for crimes, some which are related to the treasure hunt, some which might not be, but we don’t actually get kind of any new information out of this scene.
Ellen: Yeah. There’s this woman who tried to steal a chest because it looked like the one on the video.
Alice: Yeah. It looked just like the one on the video because the markings are very distinctive. But she was also arrested three days ago because she stole one that also looked just like it. She’s like, yeah, maybe not that distinctive.
Bex: Uh, but anyway, the fun scene is when Athena gets home after work, uh, because she gets home and I don’t think Bobby was expecting her home quite so soon, uh, [00:41:00] because she walks in,
Ellen: I love this
Bex: and he’s off camera somewhere and he is like, “oh, uh, hey, um, I just finished making some breakfast.” and Athena is completely oblivious that anything is wrong. And she’s like talking to him about, oh, you know, “Did you have as crazy a shift as I did?” he’s like, “yeah, yeah, yeah. Super, super crazy. Super crazy.”
Alice: So crazy you guys.
Bex: And she walks into the kitchen area to see Bobby yeet something out the back door and then slam it behind him super suspiciously.
Alice: No, he’s always out in the random alleyway behind the house. It’s fine.
Bex: And then immediately tries to distract Athena with french toast. “Do you want some french toast? I’m gonna make you some french toast.” And Athena’s like, yeah,
Ellen: She just gives him the biggest side eye.
Bex: And she’s, she lets him go into the kitchen and start getting coffee cups out. Um, and then immediately makes a beeline for the door that he’s just shut. And Bobby’s like, “No, no, no. Good coffee. Um, eggs, coffee, eggs, anything. [00:42:00] Please don’t open the door,” except she opens the door. Um, and there’s one of those, like, it’s not full on serial killer red string mind map kind of things yet, but it’s getting there.
Ellen: Yeah. There’s a map and some pins
Bex: on a, on a, like a whiteboard. He’s got a freestanding on a white whiteboard.
Alice: It’s a full freestanding whiteboard. Like, not even a little, it’s like it’s a proper whiteboard.
Bex: It’s like it’s Bobby height and Peter Krause is not a short man, so it’s massive. And Athena’s reaction is just like, “Oh God, not you too.”
Ellen: And I’m like, how did you not see this coming Athena? You know what he’s like, you saw him with Michael.
Bex: Yeah.
Alice: Literally. Right?
Bex: You saw him.
Ellen: I’m surprised Michael wasn’t there with him.
Bex: If they could have got, um, if they could have got the actor, and I’m sure they would’ve. Yeah. [00:43:00] Um, but bless her, she allows Bobby to bring the board back into the house and she sits down and willingly listens to him explain to her all of his theories about where the, the treasure is, and he gets very excited.
Alice: Oh, he had like, it’s, oh, it’s fully broken down. So he’s got like the woods and parks around LA where they find, like, where you find creeks or rivers. The red pins are willow trees. The white pin pins are herons, the green are Bullfrogs, but he’s not quite sure where, like what “Gray Bridge roared” means yet.
Bex: Athena’s just looking at him like he’s crazy.
Alice: Yeah, she’s like, ” This is very thorough.”
Bex: He tells her that he thinks he’s making some headway and he thinks that the treasure is in Solstice Canyon and Athena bursts his bubble by telling him that they arrested someone there that morning and there is no treasure.
And [00:44:00] he’s so disappointed. He’s like, “I really thought I was onto something there.”
Alice: Guess I’m gonna have to re recalibrate.
Bex: And I love this exchange because Athena says,
Alice: oh, it’s the best.
Bex: “Where did this come from?” And Bobby’s like “The whiteboard? I picked it up from the store on the way home.” No honey. No, not the board. The The treasure hunting stuff.
Alice: Yeah. The sudden desire to go hunting for his hidden treasure.
Bex: Bobby’s like, “I don’t know, I just saw other people doing for it. I got FOMO and you know, it’s $5 million. What’s the harm? It’s no different from playing a lottery ticket.” Athena’s like “nobody ended up in the ICU buying a lottery ticket.” And I’m pretty sure there’s an episode in season two that would beg to differ, Athena. Yeah. Season three, season two. I don’t care enough to look it up. But we’ve, we’ve seen that it’s, it’s just as dangerous.
Alice: Um, it’s [00:45:00] “Careful What You Wish For”. Yes. Which is,
Bex: is that the end of season two? Because I feel like it had something to do with Shannon.
Alice: Yeah. It’s the end of season two. Yeah. Yes. It’s literally the episode where Shannon dies.
Bex: Yes. Not from buying a lottery ticket.
Ellen: Bobby even says there was that one incident. There was that one incident where two people, yes. Okay. Doesn’t matter.
Alice: Forget about it.
Ellen: Um, Athena wants to know what, what, what would we do with the money if you found it and he was going to surprise her with trust funds for the kids, “a new kitchen. We could take that honeymoon we never had, or we could even decide to retire.”
Alice: Athena’s actually shocked by this. She’s like, “I thought you loved your job.”
Bex: Bobby’s a Bobby’s realistic. He’s like, the jobs like ours, nobody does them forever. Eventually you have to hang it up and go fishing. Athena’s like, “Not me. You, you go fishing, that’s fine. I’m gonna be on those streets until they force me off them.” And Bobby’s like, “Honey, somebody nearly did last year.”
So you can’t tell me that [00:46:00] you didn’t think about quitting or retiring after the incident with, um, drawing dude. Who? The real estate rapist.
Ellen: Oh yeah. That guy. Yeah. Yeah. No, she’s adamant she doesn’t want to retire.
Alice: Yeah. Like she did think about it and Elaine did bring it up and wanted her to seriously consider it. So she did, but she decided not to, which she never told Bobby. Um, ’cause she didn’t see the point. The decision was already made and so what was there to say?
Ellen: Yeah. She kind of just brushes it off.
Alice: Yeah, it’s um, yeah, she wants a French toast. She was promised French toast and Bobby’s french toast. I can only imagine is amazing. So
Bex: yeah. Meanwhile, Bobby is left with the realization that he might be married to Athena, but he is apparently not important enough to her to be factored into major life decisions that she’s making.
Ellen: Aw. Well she seemed pretty set on not wanting [00:47:00] to retire, so maybe she just didn’t want to share that.
Bex: No, but I’m pretty sure I remember them having conversations in that episode. Or at least Bobby was talking to her about it and now he’s realizing that Athena never talked back. It’s a very, um, very heavy emotional moment in what is otherwise a very lighthearted episode.
Alice: They need to throw some drama in.
Bex: True. Very true.
Alice: And now we go to the most annoying characters in the episode.
Ellen: This whole scene is so silly. I mean, up until we get to the rescue part, which is a lot funnier than the beginning of the scene. So Keisha and her boyfriend roll up to this River’s Edge B and B place.
Alice: Um, does the boyfriend actually get a name at any point?
Bex: Not named. He’s babe, the entire thing.
Alice: Excellent. [00:48:00] Cool
Ellen: babe. They call each other,
Bex: I think all the characters get named.
Alice: He’s just Babe.
Ellen: Yeah, babe.
Bex: They all get named in the transcripts, but um, Keisha is the only one who actually gets named. Yeah.
Alice: Interesting.
Bex: So, yes, rivers Edge B and B, the specifically Keisha is after the Willow tree suite, um, which sounds very specific.
Alice: Um, very treasure huntery.
Bex: Very treasure huntery. Which is not wrong because while Keisha is getting the key and talking to the owner of the b and b, her boyfriend is unloading digging tools from the back of the car. Um, and what’s really sad is that the owner apparently has been living under a rock and has no idea about this whole treasure hunt business and just thinks that Keisha is there for a romantic night away.
And both as an attempt to sort of keep the owner occupied while said [00:49:00] boyfriend gets tools out of trunk, she tells him that, um, there, yes, she’s staying there with her boyfriend, but she thinks that this could be the weekend, like the weekend,
Ellen: the weekend.
Bex: Um, and the onus says, love it. I’ll send champagne up to the room for you to set the mood.
Ellen: So they go and. Babe, she says to her boyfriend. “Um, why are you going over there? Um, Willow Tree suites this way.” And the, the man says, “Trust me, I got a nose for this kind of thing.” And that’s kind of hilarious.
Bex: Oh my God,
Ellen: Given what he’s about to dig up.
Bex: Just noticed that. Yeah. So his nose literally leads him to shit.
Ellen: Yep. Yeah. Yes. So they start digging and um, the lady’s like, “Oh, you know I love our adventures, but maybe if we find the 5 million, maybe we could call it quits on the schemes?” [00:50:00] But he’s like, “no, no, no. This is the spot. Like this is where we’re digging.” Um, the, the owner runs out and he is like, Hey, get away from there.
And the man gives Keisha the shovel and tells her to keep digging so he can go and hold it, hold the guy off. And so she starts digging. But then. I don’t even think she starts digging. She just stands there.
Bex: Yeah, she’s, she just stands there and looking at the shovel,
Ellen: she starts hearing this like crunching kind of noise and, and all of a sudden she just disappears into the ground. Um, first she goes, she looks up and goes, “Baby?” Like calling out to the guy.
Bex: I love that this actress has the most adorable facial expressions. She does look because she looks up and she just looks so confused. Um, and so worried, like Yeah, before the little babe and then just the ground drops out from beneath her feet and she plummets, plummets, um, out of sight.
Ellen: Yeah. And then the, [00:51:00] her boyfriend, well, they rush over and then he’s like, “oh, what is that smell?” So then we discover the 118 arrive and. I like how you’ve labeled him here as exposition captain. He lets us know about it.
Bex: Because like in all honesty, Bobby, Bobby should have been telling the members of the 118 this on the drive up. There’s no reason to drive them all the way up to the b and b for them to get out. And then he starts telling them, oh, it’s a septic tank.
Alice: He, he’s like, what a shock. It’s a septic tank.
Bex: “The woman’s been down there for seven minutes. A tank like that is likely full of methane. We’re gonna need some air.” Like they would, number one, they would know that, number two, you would’ve told them that on the drive. The only reason you’re telling them that now is so that we, the audience understand what is going on. So yes, exposition captain.
Ellen: Yeah.
Bex: So unfortunately for Buck, somebody is going to [00:52:00] need to, must to, uh, harness up and get lowered down into the tank to get Keisha and Chimney did tell him that he would get the next one.
Ellen: Yep. It’s his turn.
Bex: It’s his turn.
Alice: Poor Buck. Not allowed in a helicopter, but hey, he can go in a septic tank.
Bex: Yeah, he is gonna get lower down into a tank full of shit, which he does. Um, but before he’s like even halfway down, um, Keisha collapses from the smell, lack of oxygen. Hen did say that she looked like she was sufferings, um, severe hypoxia.
So Chim must have touched her and passed on the magical, like diagnosing at a distance. Yeah. Um, so Buck screams at everyone to get him down there. So Eddie just like yanked the brake off the, off the rope and Buck just falls.
Alice: Eddie basically just pushes him in. [00:53:00]
Ellen: He splashes down,
Bex: just drops him at full speed. Thankfully, it doesn’t look like the tank is that deep because rather than like dropping Buck straight into the water, it looks like he lands on his feet and the water’s sort of only up to his waist level. Uh, ’cause you know, Oliver Stark is all leg. Um,
Alice: yeah.
Bex: Then he just reaches down and fishes Keisha out and then they pull him back up. It’s rather anticlimactic when you look at it like that.
Alice: It is a bit, yeah. But this part isn’t important anyway.
Ellen: They just fish her out. Yeah.
Bex: Yeah. Just fishes her out, puts her oxygen mask back on her, gets her back up to the surface.
Ellen: But the B, the b and b owner is, um. Has now chosen the moment to quiz the guy about what, what were you doing out here? And the man’s like, “duh. Digging up the treasure. And of course it’s here because the willow tree feet, like at the river’s edge? It is here. Right?” [00:54:00]
Bex: Like I said,
Ellen: “’cause otherwise she’s gonna kill me.”
Bex: The, the owner of the B and B has been living under a rock. He has no idea what is going on. No idea what he’s talking about.
Ellen: What treasure? He obviously hasn’t got a TV or like Yeah, look, he, he doesn’t know who Taylor Kelly is.
Bex: He doesn’t watch Channel eight. He watches one of the other channels. No. Um, so they get Keisha into the ambulance. Her boyfriend gets in with her. Um, Chim and Hen are in there as well. They’re fully like gowned up, masked up, gloved up.
Um, Keisha looks very dry for her, for being someone who just got dunked into sewage. Um, yeah. And her boyfriend apologizes to Keisha for not being able to find the money, and Keisha said, “It’s fine. We don’t need the money. I just need you. So whatever you are waiting for, you don’t have to wait anymore. My answer is yes.”
[00:55:00] And Chim and Hen at this point think that they’re witnessing some sort of romantic, um, romantic opportunity.
Alice: They’re like, Aw. And then he’s like, “ah, yes, what?”
Bex: And the man’s like, “uh, what am I, what are you saying yes to?” And she’s like, “yes, I’ll marry you!” And Chim and Hen are like, oh, he’s, they’re proposing they’re getting married.
And the guy goes, “Uh, babe, um, I thought you knew that I am married.” And everybody the ambulance is like, “What?” So he and Keisha have been, you know. Going on adventures together. Um, but Keisha is his adventure. Just his adventure on the side
Ellen: and she just boots him out.
Bex: Yeah. The ambulance hasn’t even left the scene because Buck and Eddie are still like getting, um, Buck is still stripping out of the, the jumpsuit they had him in.
I don’t know what Eddie’s doing, but he, they, the ambulance is not [00:56:00] left yet when this guy gets kicked out and the ambulance drives away at him. Um,
Alice: Eddie’s watching Buck strip, obviously.
Bex: Well, yes, that too. Um, and he, that’s
Ellen: until it starts to smell bad.
Bex: Yeah. Yeah. So the guy sort of looks at everyone and says, “oh, she just wanted some space,” and I guess it’s a good thing that his car is still at the B and b, so he’s got his own way back into town and yes, poor Buck is stripping out of his, um, sewage covered coverall.
And Bobby and Eddie are making fun of him and how bad he smells.
Ellen: Poor Buck.
Bex: Poor Buck. So here’s where things take a little bit of a turn, because Athena is called to Hollis Harcourt’s estate, like his actual house, which is like a massive mansion with it’s a gate and a one of those circular driveway things.
It’s very fancy. Um, his books must do well because the alarm company has called [00:57:00] the, called LAPD because the security alarm has been triggered. And as she gets there, there is a man waiting in the driveway for her that we recognize as Jeremiah, Mr. Harcourt’s personal assistant and the security company also called him.
Ellen: The door was open when he got there, but he figured it was probably some treasure hunters. So Athena tells him to stay outside and she sneaks in with her gun. She follows sounds that she can hear, um, all the way to Hollis’s office, and there’s someone behind the desk hiding behind the desk. She tells ’em to get up slowly, hands in the air.
And it turns out that it is the dead guy, but he’s not dead.
Alice: He’s, yeah, he’s definitely not dead.
Ellen: “Hollis Harcourt. Yeah. Looking mighty good for a dead man,” she says,
Bex: although I don’t think he’s gonna be alive [00:58:00] for long because Jeremiah takes one look at him and says, “You’re alive? I’m gonna kill you.”
Alice: Yeah. We don’t say that in front of a cop, but, you know.
Ellen: But yeah, we do find out just then that, um, Jeremiah apparently was left out of his will. Athena’s sort of like, “We need to have a conversation about your unexpected return to the land of the living.” But yeah, they, they have a little back and forth about this, but. For like faking your own death apparently is a crime.
Bex: It is a crime.
Ellen: And he says, “You would be right to arrest me if I had done even one of those things. But I didn’t. I simply had my lawyer release a statement and voila.”
Bex: Yes.
Ellen: And so it turns out that they have a, a more of a conversation about this, but it turns out the, that he was trying to write his next big book, but he didn’t know what the ending was.
So he needed, he, he decided to do this treasure hunt [00:59:00] thing to find out how the city would react to a, a, a, a treasure hunt. And that would help him finish his book.
Bex: Because apparently he has blown the last three deadlines and people, mainly probably his publishing company, are asking some very uncomfortable questions and saying a lot of ugly words like refund of the advance he was probably given for said Gutted in Glendale. Um, so he,
Ellen: I mean, endings are hard.
Bex: Endings are very hard. I do agree with him, especially if
Ellen: I, I I see where he is coming from.
Bex: Yeah. Um, so he, in that vein, he’s hoping that Athena could keep this whole, like, not really dead thing just between them, but Athena’s like, “Hmm. The call came in over the radio. I’m pretty sure Taylor was listening to that on her scanner. She’s gonna be here any minute, and I’m going to, if I get asked by any journalists, what happens, I’m gonna tell them the truth. That you told everybody you were [01:00:00] dead, but you were actually alive.”
yeah. And that news is absolutely gutting to the 118. They are all very, very upset with the news that there was actually no treasure and they were all
Alice: the poor 118.
Bex: They were his research subjects like little lab rats running around in his, in Hollis’s Treasure hunt simulation.
Ellen: I, I, um, I think I, because when I was watching all these episodes in a row, because I like binged the last, like, five episodes in a row of this season, and by the time I got up to this one I was slightly inebriated.
And when we got up to, when we got up to this part of it, I thought this was the end, um, of this, of the episode. And I’m like, oh, so there was no treasure. Okay, whatever. And then as it keeps going, I was like, oh, wait a minute. What’s happening? There’s more. Yeah.
Alice: I think that when was
Ellen: suddenly the treasure is there again. What’s happening?
Alice: Yeah. When I was binging it, I definitely didn’t enjoy this episode. I was like, oh, this is, like, I [01:01:00] see what they’re trying to do, but it just didn’t really. Whereas, because I knew that it was a fake out the second time. And because obviously we are watching it week by week now, and I just watched this as a standalone, it’s actually really fun as a standalone.
Ellen: Yeah. It makes a lot more sense when you like, uh, the second, like you said, when you know what’s actually happening.
Alice: Yeah.
Ellen: The structure of it makes more sense. But when I was watching it the first time, I was like, okay, so there was no treasure. All right. And then, then they go back to looking for it and I’m like, but didn’t we just decide that there was no treasure? Like what?
Bex: Yeah. Which is why one of my main complaints is that this is a fun episode, but structurally it’s a terrible episode. Oh, structurally it’s all, well, we can talk about that at the end of the episode once we get through it.
Alice: Yeah. But yeah, so the 118 are really sad. Um, every emergency on the news was a new chapter for his book.
Uh, Eddie says that if they’re, if they were all his research, then they should all get paid. Um, ’cause he still wants the treasure. And Bobby’s like, “There [01:02:00] may not even be treasure. Hollis never had to actually plant one to get what he wanted. He just needed to say that he did.”
Bex: So there’s the red herring, you’ve got Bobby, sort of his theory is that there is no treasure, that it was just what Hollis said. So now it’s, they’ve agreed that regardless of whether there’s a treasure or not, it’s time to give up. No more treasure hunt. Yeah. Um, so Buck decides,
Ellen: oh, Buck looks so sad.
Bex: Buck decides to drown his sorrows in some tequila with Taylor. And, uh, I don’t particularly like Buck in the rest of this episode.
Ellen: You don’t?
Bex: No, I’m not. I can, I’m just gonna flag now that I don’t like particularly like Buck or Buck’s storyline in the rest of this episode, but we’ll talk about it towards the end a little bit more. Um,
Ellen: okay.
Alice: Anyway, yeah. Taylor feels like an idiot. Yes. Um, she’s very sad that there’s no treasure. ’cause obviously like she was reporting on it as well, so.
Bex: [01:03:00] She feels like she should have, she was a trained journalist. She should have known better than to fall for, um, Hollis’s little ploy. And through this whole conversation, um, Taylor is like wrapped up in thoughts of betrayal and like self flagellation, and her brain is still kind of ticking over on the treasure hunt.
Meanwhile, Buck is getting closer, like physically closer and closer to Taylor.
Ellen: Yeah, they’re, they’re having two different conversations here. He’s,
Alice: oh, massively.
Bex: He’s flirting with her. He’s like leaning in and, you know, doing moves as best Buck can do, which is like not the best. Um, and Taylor is either studiously ignoring him or completely oblivious to his moves.
Ellen: Yeah, she does feel a bit oblivious unless she’s just fucking with him, which
Bex: wouldn’t put it past her. But at the moment it feels more like she’s so focused on, um, ’cause while Buck is like making, doing his [01:04:00] moves, um, she’s staring at the push pin map on the table. And her mind is still sort of ticking her over.
Buck at the Athena residence, um, Bobby is also looking at his map, but he’s taking all of his push pins down and packing up his giant board.
Alice: Poor Bobby.
Ellen: Aw, he looks so defeated.
Bex: He does Athena kind of throws him a bone and says, “you know, we can like rent a cabin now and then for fishing, like for vacation.” And Bobby’s like, “yeah, I guess so.”
Alice: And then she asks if he even knows how to fish. And he’s like, “I’m from Minnesota.” She’s like, “so that’s a yes?”
Bex: Ma’am. He, he plays, he plays hockey, he ice skates, he knows how to fish. That’s pretty much all there is to do outta Minnesota. Right?
Ellen: Oh God, I forgot about the ice hockey. The, um, figure, the figure skating, [01:05:00]
Alice: the figure skating.
Bex: How could you forget about the figure skating?
Ellen: That’s so funny. No, I don’t know. How did I forget about the figure skating? Okay.
Bex: Anyway, now that the treasure hunt is over, now Athena takes an interest in it. So while Bobby is packing up his board, she sits down and she reads the poem. That was the, the clues for the treasure. And she has an idea of where the treasure is.
Ellen: Yeah. Apparently Bobby was missing one of the books because Hollis had an unpublished book, which was called Gutted in Glendale. I dunno how Athena knows about it,
Bex: because that was the name of the book that triggered that he was using the treasure hunt for So Gutted in Glendale was the book that he was writing that he didn’t know the ending for. So he used the treasure hunt to figure out what everybody was going to do and inspired.
Ellen: So Athena has the missing piece,
Bex: so she knows that like everyone’s talking about like, um, the, the murder and the observatory. So they thought it was at the [01:06:00] Observatory ’cause he had a book that was set in the observatory and now she’s going, “oh, there is a book that was gonna be set in Glendale. Maybe the treasure has something to do with Glendale.”
And so when we come back from commercial, she and Bobby are at the Glendale Narrows, which is a part of a river that goes through Glendale except it doesn’t look like much of a river. ’cause it’s more like a little rivulet. It, it’s heavily concreted. It’s going under a bridge. It’s, it’s not very,
Alice: I love the fact that Bobby even says Bobby’s like, “this is a concrete channel with water in it. And I keep telling everyone, this is not a river.”
Ellen: Well have you from, there used to be a lot of rivers going through LA and they all got concreted over. So this is one of them. It’s still like the bits they look like they show does, does look like a bit of a river. It’s got like islands in the middle of it and stuff.
Bex: Yes.
Ellen: So,
Bex: so [01:07:00] Athena is like chastising him saying, you know, “All you adventurers thought you had to check up to the mountains. None of you thought to look right here in the middle of the city.”
And the Glendale, Glendale on narrows are home to herons and bull frogs and the noise of the traffic going over the bridge, which is like concrete gray, could be described as a roar.
Alice: Mm-hmm.
Bex: She says that’s a like a bit on the nose for a metaphor. And Bobby says, “Well, Hollis wasn’t really a poet or, you know, very trustworthy,” and Hen from somewhere behind him says, “Well, he wasn’t the only one.”
And it turns out that everyone has finally put the dots, connected the dots. They haven’t connected shit, but they’ve connected the dots and they’ve all descended on the same spot of the Glendale Narrows.
Ellen: But they’ve all connected separate dots. Like none of them have come to the same conclusion. Yeah. I mean they’ve come to the same conclusion but from completely different angles.
Bex: Yes. So [01:08:00] Hen and Chim show up, Buck and Eddie show up. Um, Taylor is also there in spirit ’cause she’s up in a helicopter circling the area, um, and Chim and, but
Ellen: she’s willing to get back in a helicopter again?
Bex: Well, she’s got like the entirety of the 118 underneath her. So if anything happens, um, and like Chim and Hen have got their medical, uh, medical kits and Eddie’s got their gear.
So they’re all set for a rescue should anything happen, but they’re all absolutely, um, scandalized to see that the, everybody else is there because they all thought that they’d given up on the treasure hunt, but they do kind of exchange notes like, “Why are you guys here? What tipped you off?”
Alice: Yeah, so like Athena and Bobby obviously was because the book was Gutted in Glendale and the part in the poem about the narrow place, um, Glendale Narrows, uh, Buck said it was the river for them because Taylor said that Hollis used to jog there.[01:09:00]
Meanwhile, Chim and Hen Hen says that her wife wrote an algorithm that detects changes in satellite images, and I have no idea how that led them to this, but whatever,
Bex: let’s just go with it. It doesn’t actually matter in the long run. Yeah,
Ellen: it’s totally a thing that you can do, but satellite imagery is not that high resolution.
Alice: And like, what are they, what was she looking for? Like it didn’t pick up traffic constantly because cars moving all the time at different day, like times of the day and like are they trying to find the one little hole that was dug?
Ellen: Yeah, it’s, yeah.
Alice: Like I have no idea what the algorithm was looking for, but whatever. Um, Karen’s a rocket scientist. We’re very proud of her. Yes. Yeah.
Ellen: For the drama. They found it through a satellite image. Um, yep. Good on ’em. So now there’s six of us and one treasure. And Athena’s like “Bobby and I pulled up first,” [01:10:00] and they’re like, whoa.
Alice: Um, Hen’s like, “Only ’cause you were elected to keep the name of Hollis’s unpublished novelty yourself.”
And Athena’s like, “Well, I didn’t know it was important. And this is the first time any of us have, are hearing about an algorithm.”
Ellen: Uh, Bob, you reckons they can split 5 million. Five ways. And, and he’s like, no, it, it’ll be seven because we have a, an existing deal with Taylor and her cameraman and Chim’s like, the cameraman with no name gets a cut. I’m like, yeah, I love that love. They never named this cameraman
Alice: I laughed so hard.
Ellen: He’s always in the background.
Alice: We’re always, yeah, we’re always laughing about unnamed characters and Chim’s just like, Hey.
Bex: But he does have a name. It’s Brett. We met him in “Dosed”.
Alice: Yeah, Maybe it’s a different camera man.
Bex: I know Chim was a little bit, um, distracted. ’cause you know, everybody else had, had, had, um, had eaten the gardening brownies. Um, but like, we know his name.
Alice: But yeah, Hen says that she doesn’t think that anyone who isn’t physically here should [01:11:00] get a cut. And that’s where we hear the helicopter whirring a head. And she’s, and Buck’s like, “yeah, she’s here.”
Bex: Yeah, she actually is here. Um, so Bobby’s like, “You know what? Fine, we’ll split it seven ways. I dunno what that is, but that’ll be enough.” Um, and Buck pulled out. Phone and immediately done the math. Um, but he doesn’t, it’s for those of you playing along at home, it’s $714,285 and 71.40 cents. He doesn’t know what to do with the point four
Alice: Buck’s like, “I don’t know what to do with the 0.40 cents.” and Bobby’s like, “you can keep ours.”
Bex: So now they’ve all come to agreement. They’ll head off to, uh, to finding the willow trees and the marker of like H marks the spot. Um, unfortunately for them, they are too late. Somebody has beat them to it.
Alice: Oh, maybe that’s what the algorithm was looking for. Maybe it was looking for the H
Bex: the willow trees and the H? Maybe.
Ellen: But if the H Oh, anyway, it doesn’t [01:12:00] matter anyway. I don’t care. Someone, someone is already there beating them to it though.
Alice: And it’s Probie!
Ellen: It’s Ravi. He found it.
Bex: He did find it.
Alice: And then yeah, Eddie just goes, “what’s 5 million divided by eight?” And Buck goes, “I’m not doing any more math.”
Bex: Sir, you typed numbers into a calculator, like how?
Alice: Yeah, and it’s too hard. Look, as someone with, with, um, discal, uh, disc calculate, I also don’t, math is hard.
Bex: Uh, so they decide that since Ravi was the one who found the trunk first, he gets the honors of opening the trunk. And we get the classic, um, Pulp Fiction opening of the trunk and everybody looking, we get the, the camera sort of in the trunk looking out.
Ellen: Mm-hmm.
Bex: Nobody kind of seems excited or amazed or awed. In fact, they all look rather shocked and [01:13:00] disappointed, um, because when the camera cuts back, we find that the trunk is empty.
Alice: Um, this is, I think this is the first time we actually get Ravi’s name.
Bex: I think you are correct.
Alice: Oh yeah. Bobby actually calls him Ravi
Bex: because he’s been Probie.
Alice: Whereas, yeah, he was Probie like, this is only a second episode too. So like I, when I was first watching the show, I was like, oh, it’s just like some random Probie in “Jinx”, right? And then all of a sudden he turns up and like he’s got the treasure and he’s part of the gang kind of, and I’m like, who is this guy?
I don’t care. Whereas now that like I know a bit more about Ravi and like he’s still in the show.
Bex: Oh, Ravi!
Alice: Spoilers. I’m, I’m like, oh my God. It’s like, baby Ravi. Like it’s exciting. Whereas yeah, the first time I was just like, I don’t understand why this guy’s such a big part of this episode.
Ellen: Anyway, the chest is empty.
Alice: Yeah, chest is empty. Um,
Ellen: they’re, they all just decide that all of them are going to go and have a word with Mr. Harcourt about this. [01:14:00] So they do all rock up to the mansion. And Athena says, this is so for the drama, extremely dramatic. Um, “I’m gonna go in and check it out. You all wait here.” And, you know, they, they’re not, they don’t wanna stay outside and let her go in alone.
And she’s like, “Do any of you have a badge? And a gun?” like holds up the gun uh, “I didn’t think so.” She doesn’t even look at any of them. She just is looking at the house. Um, and so she creeps in and to check it out and she finds, um, there’s like glass all over the, the floor and someone’s lying on the ground and it’s Hollis.
And he’s dead.
Bex: Yes.
Alice: Yeah, he’s actually dead this time.
Ellen: He’s really dead this time.
Alice: Proper dead.
Bex: And while Athena is giving like her, her quip. I go, “oh, I guess he found his ending.” You hear Ravi over her shoulder go, “oh my God, is he dead?” [01:15:00] And she whips around and everybody has followed her into the house and appearing around the corner, the corner at the dead guy.
Alice: And, and she’s like, “Didn’t I say to wait outside? Why didn’t you, why do you people never listen?” And Hen’s like “So that we could be your alibi?” Because at that moment, ’cause there’s sirens. Yeah.
Bex: And then I do, I do like this bit. Um, so Taylor has descended upon the scene. She’s reporting about the fact that Hollis has been found dead again. Um, the coroner
Alice: again,
Bex: the coroner has been called to remove Hollis’s body from the scene. Um, the other police have been called and Romero was having a grand old time ’cause he’s got them all, all the 118 lined up in a row and is sort of walking up and down as he’s interrogating them.
Alice: “So you all found an empty treasure chest. Drove down here like an angry mob to confront him, and now he’s dead. But these facts are unrelated to each other.”
Bex: Athena’s trying to placate him. She’s like, “Rick, he was [01:16:00] dead when he got here.” And Eddie contributed.
Ellen: I’m surprised they told him that they found the empty chest. Well, they like, you know, they could’ve kept that themselves
Alice: giving the facts. Yeah,
Bex: yeah. Romero would’ve asked, what the fuck are you all doing here? Like, all of you? And they’ve gone, well, you know, we, we found the chest and it was empty. So we came down here to confront him, and then we found him, he’s dead.
Um, Eddie says that they didn’t kill him and Buck pipes up and says, “We just wanted to,”
Alice: we just wanted to,
Bex: and Bobby’s immediately like “Buck!”
And then Romero looking up and down the lines, zeros in on Ravi. And he goes, “huh, you’re new.” Ravi’s like, “yeah. Yeah. I, I’m, I, I, I, I barely know them. I, I’m not with them. I’m, I’m just,” and we get, like, we get the classic shot from this season, which is the rest of the 118, turning to look at Ravi, and then everyone sort of tilting their heads, leaning forward slightly, so they’re all in a row giving Ravi like bombastic side eye for like, [01:17:00] disowning.
Alice: That’s great. Like poor Ravi’s, not even like, he’s not on their shift.
Bex: No, he’s on the B shift.
Alice: He met them like. He is literally met them like three times. The first time he met Buck, Buck yelled at him and had him drop all his paperwork. Poor Ravi
Bex: to be fair, Buck didn’t intend to scare him.
Alice: Yeah. Yelling, “Hey, Probie!” Doesn’t scare anyone. Like,
Bex: but he wasn’t angry, he was just loud and Ravi was like, brand new and
Alice: yeah, poor baby Ravi
Bex: intimidated by Buck.
Alice: But yes, I, the first time I watched this episode, like I was very much like, you know, Eddie’s face, like, what the fuck? Like, who is this guy? And now I’m just like, yeah, Ravi, you don’t know them. Just distance yourself from them. My poor little baby.
Bex: He’s like looking at Bobby going, I know you’re the captain of the 118, but can I call my captain? Because, um, please,
Alice: I know you’re the captain, but I’ve never met you in my life. [01:18:00]
Bex: Can I get the captain of the B shift here please?
Alice: Yeah.
Bex: Uh, thankfully for Ravi, um, Detective Stafford appears, um, she’s managed to download the security footage, the footage from Hollis’s security system. Um, and that has confirmed that it wasn’t them. So Romero decides that he’s gonna watch the footage then and there on the iPad that Stafford gives him and the rest of them sort of crowd around, around the line
Ellen: so they can all watch it.
Bex: Yeah. They’ll crowd around behind him so they can watch along too.
Alice: I, I do love that, um, that like when they’re like, it wasn’t them Romero’s just like, “I didn’t actually think it was, I was just doing my job.”
Yep. And hands Athena back her gun and it’s like, yeah. Like he even admits he was enjoying the moment a little bit because like he got to line up these idiots that he’s like, you know, had run in with so many times
Bex: he’s had to deal with them for so for so many years.
Alice: Yeah.
Bex: I would probably have enjoyed that moment too.
Alice: Yeah, exactly. So yeah, put [01:19:00] like, shout out to him for admitting it.
Bex: But yes, it was not them. Um, uh, the security footage shows that a Zip Parcel delivery driver had entered the premises right before Hollis died. Um, except she didn’t get out of a zip delivery truck and Chim’s ability to diagnose at a distance which he passed on to Hen now also applies to watching footage of someone recorded through a security system, Uhhuh, because Hen immediately looks at this person and goes, “Are they pregnant?”
Alice: I mean, they look, do, look very pregnant to be fair. Um, Chim’s also Chim’s just shocked that there’s a delivery driver this time of night. Um, Amazon’s really picking up their deliveries since COVID
Ellen: Athena recognizes her from the brief period that she was on the tv, stealing, um, Taylor’s microphone.
Bex: I mean, we know that Athena watches Taylor’s broadcast, so [01:20:00] that’s
Ellen: We do now.
Bex: No, we did last time. ’cause Taylor, when in, um, um, um, Josh Begins, she got like a crucial piece of evidence that connected all the cases from watching Taylor.
Ellen: Oh yeah, that’s right.
Bex: Taylor is very, very useful when it comes to like connecting the dots and all of these cases.
Alice: She’s a very good journalist.
Bex: She’s very good.
Alice: Except when it comes to treasure that like a guy that may or may not be dead.
Bex: Yeah. Uh, so Romero somehow finds who this woman is and drags her down to an interrogation room.
Alice: Well they knew who her husband was ’cause her husband almost died, so it wasn’t,
Bex: I’m gonna say like they had her on camera. They knew that her husband Yeah. Was a zip driver. Um, so it would’ve, wouldn’t have been hard to find her in the end.
Alice: Very, very quick dots connected there.
Bex: Yes. Mm-hmm. Um, and so Romero is interrogating her. Tell, asking her. Or telling her that, um, you know, “Your husband had almost died going on this treasure hunt. You knew that Hollis had to be stopped, so you [01:21:00] took matters into your own hands.”
And the woman says that she didn’t kill him. He was a horrible person, but she didn’t kill him. And then we get a flashback and we find out what really happened. Which, I mean, it’s not the nicest, but she’s right. She didn’t kill him.
Yeah. She confronted Hollis and he blew, he brushed her off.
Ellen: She started smashing up his things, which is why there’s glass all over the floor.
Bex: Yes. ’cause he tried to force her out the door and she pushed him off telling him not to touch her, which completely valid. Um, he knocks into a, like a some kind of decorative table in the middle of the foyer area, which knocks over a crystal vase, which immediately shatters into a million pieces and seeing his over the top reaction, like he didn’t seem to care that somebody had died or somebody had almost died on this treasure hunt.
But he was absolutely horrified [01:22:00] that one of his vases had been destroyed. Um, the woman decides to start smashing up everything that she can get her hands on and this triggers… Apparently Hollis had a heart condition, a preexisting heart condition, and the stress of seeing his beautiful vases and decorative jars being destroyed, um, triggers a major cardiac arrest. And he keels over.
Ellen: Yeah, he’s not before he gets on the phone to try and I think he calls 9-1-1 to try and get the police there, I think. But before it connects, he basically falls to the ground. Yes. And so he’s got the phone in his hand with 9-1-1 and she pick, picks it up, but then she looks at him like lying on the floor half dead and just decides not to say anything.
Alice: Yes. Yeah. I’m pretty sure that’s a crime,
Bex: which Romero does bring up to Athena. Um, and she’s like, [01:23:00] “yes, but no DA is going to wanna pursue this.”
Alice: Yeah.
Bex: Because there is, it’s gonna look bad bringing a pregnant woman whose husband, uh, got injured because of Hollis’s recklessness and she confronted him. He was continued to, you know, berate her and so she just failed to give aid. Everyone is gonna be sympathetic against her.
Alice: Yeah.
Bex: It’s not gonna be a successful case. And even if it is a successful case, the public, um, perception is gonna be against them.
Alice: Yeah.
Bex: But we’re not done yet. ’cause there’s
Alice: no, it’s exposition breakfast time
Bex: and not just exposition breakfast time to explain the two mysteries that like we’ve already had, which was, you know, where is the treasure buried?
And now, like a last minute, who actually killed Hollis. Um, we are gonna bring in a third mystery, which was [01:24:00] what happened to the treasure. Um, and we’re going to bring that up over breakfast, uh, which looks like it’s family breakfast at the Athena residence. Um, and Taylor has been invited.
Ellen: It’s a very big family breakfast. And Buck’s like, “Well, what do you think happened to the money?” And, uh, everyone else is like, “Buck, there was no money. He was yanking everyone’s chain, the whole city and all of us.” So then Hen says, “Why, why would he bury just an empty chest? Like, why even bother doing any of it?”
Alice: Chim says, you don’t think the probie double crossed us, do you? And Eddie’s like, “well, at this point I don’t trust anyone.” And when everyone looks at him, he is like, “I mean, aside from you guys, obviously everyone else sucks,”
Ellen: obviously.
Alice: Um, I also like, I do like that Eddie was in on like this, Taylor was in on it. Ana was not
Bex: mm-hmm. Didn’t think to bring her in on it. Did he immediately thought she doesn’t,
Ellen: then they would’ve had to split it five ways, [01:25:00] like Yeah. Anyway.
Bex: No, but Alice is saying like instead of going to Buck and trying to split it with Buck, he could have gone to Ana. Yeah. And like they could have searched for it together and split it 50 50.
Ellen: Well, he works better with Buck.
Bex: Yes, he does. Yes he does.
Alice: He’s like, two brains are better than one. Eddie, you and Buck have never had two brains. Like, what, what?
Ellen: And Ana’s a teacher.
Alice: Yeah.
Bex: Honestly, I think Christopher would’ve done better than these two.
Ellen: Hey, they got to the narrows, didn’t they? I mean, that was with Taylor’s,
Bex: Taylor!
Alice: Taylor, Taylor got to the narrows Buck managed to use a calculator, that’s all. Yeah. Anyway.
Bex: Anyway. Um, as per contract, um, Athena is the one who puts all the dots together, is the smartest person in the room. Um, because she has the [01:26:00] flash of brilliance that if there was going to be treasure that was going to be buried, Hollis wouldn’t have been doing it.
He wasn’t the type to get his hands dirty. So his loving assistant would have been the one to do the dirty work. And she comes up with the scenario in her head, um, which is just her like bullshitting and theorizing. Um, but we do the audience, we get a flashback of Hollis telling Jeremiah, like, Jeremiah, um, you know, “I’m, I’m, I’m dying. You have to do this for me. I could be dead any minute.”
So Jeremiah does go down to the Glendale Narrows and buries the treasure chest. Um, except when Athena confronted Hollis after he quote unquote broke back into his own house. Um, and Jeremiah we thought stormed out of the house. He, in fact just stormed out of the room and then stuck around to listen.
And he heard [01:27:00] all of the horrible things that Hollis said, realized that he had been used, and so he went back and dug up the treasure. That’s Athena’s theory.
Ellen: Yeah. So then she reckons that there was treasure and this guy took it back, like took it for himself. But then they, they consult some, like, Athena looks up some database of people who’ve left the country. I don’t know how she hacks into that, but she did.
Bex: I’m gonna say she called Romero and went, Hey Romero, where is Jeremiah right now? And they would’ve traced like a credit card and he left and they found that he’s booked plane tickets to the Maldives yesterday,
Alice: or even just his passport. ’cause I think it, like it, um, the government do get notified when you leave the country.
Bex: Yeah. So they would have,
Alice: because fun fact, if you leave the country and you’re on like, um, Centrelink payments in Australia, the Centrelink payments immediately get stopped, even if you don’t tell them that you’ve left the country.
Ah, mm-hmm. So the government is notified. [01:28:00] So they would’ve just like checked him in like, oh look. Um, but yeah, he chartered a plane to the Malda, Maldives. Maldives, thank you.
Bex: Which Taylor helpfully tells us there is no extradition treaty between the US and the Maldives. Although there is a question about whether he actually committed a crime that he would need to be extradited back to the US to face charges for.
Alice: Um, and when Buck says, “Well, what else would you call it, if not a crime?” Athena says “A severance package,”
Bex: he deserved it.
Ellen: I mean, if you bury treasure and someone else digs it up, like finders keepers, right?
Bex: I’m pretty sure that if it was a legitimate kind of treasure hunt, there would be sort of rules the way like competitions run in Australia where it says that anybody who is employed with, or a family of an employee or any way related to the, um, entity that is running the competition are ineligible [01:29:00] to win the competition.
Alice: I mean, there’s they’re terms and conditions. I don’t think that’s a legal thing.
Ellen: Yeah, I was, well, I was gonna say that’s like for official competitions too. Like this one was just this guy bullshitting everybody. So
Bex: true.
Alice: Um, so yeah, I’m going with severance.
Bex: Oh yeah, 100%. The dude deserved it. Hollis was a, a like a piece of work. Jeremiah definitely deserved that money.
Ellen: Yeah.
Bex: So then we cut to where I start to not like Buck very much because Taylor hearing the news that there was actually a treasure and Jeremiah might have taken it goes out to call her, um, her editors trying to pitch a story. Um, I think she wanted to fly to the Maldives to find him and actually ask him what went down.
Um, but the network has decided, and her editors have decided that there was never a treasure to start with, is a better story, and they want her to drop it. And Buck says, “I feel like they don’t, your editors in your network, they don’t know you [01:30:00] very well.” And Taylor’s like, “Hmm. And you, you think you do know me well?”
And he says, “Well, I’m, I’m starting to, I also happen to think that we make a pretty good team.” Um, and Taylor’s like, “We suck as a team. This is like, we’ve teamed up twice and both times we’ve ended up in being caught by police.”
Ellen: For the second time
Bex: and Buck’s like “Yeah, but you know, the rest of it was fun.” Um, and Taylor’s like, “Yeah, it was fun. I’m so glad we’re friends,” and she walks off and we are left with Buck sort of looking off in the distance going “Friends. Great.”
Ellen: And oh, he got friend zoned.
Bex: He got fucking friend zoned and I hate it. I absolutely hate that. I look, I know that the show is actively pushing the Taylor and Buck romance. But they wrote Taylor as only wanting a friendship with Buck, possibly no strings attached [01:31:00] sex. But she kept saying, I don’t have friends and then talking about how, you know, Buck was being nice to her because that’s what friends do.
They’re becoming friends. And for some reason the writers decided that they were gonna write Buck as some kind of red pill incel that takes friendship as if you are friends with a woman, you are only friends with a woman in order to get into her pants or your reward,
Alice: which is stupid because like that was Buck 1.0 this, we’re now up to Buck 3.0.
Bex: Buck 3.0 is much more respectful of women. Buck 3.0 would be very capable of just being friends with a woman. But no, he’s like, I am being friends with you and as a reward, you have to fuck me.
Alice: Like, I totally would’ve got it while they were drunk. Like, because of like, they have slept together a few times while drunk, right?
Yes. So I totally get while he, while they were drunk, him moving closer and then she being like, oh no, actually I’m talking about the treasure hunt. And him being like, oh, whoops, my bad, shit. Yeah. Um, but yeah, this [01:32:00] last scene is stupid.
Bex: Yes.
Ellen: No, I just kind of read it as him being like bit, you know, a bit lovelorn and kind of thinking that he, he quite likes Taylor still and then she’s still brushing him off and he’s like, oh, but he has, doesn’t push her into it or anything, so like, I don’t know, I didn’t feel like he was being rude to her about it or anything, so.
Bex: Oh, no, no. If he’s not being rude ruder about it, but I just, for some reason this show is pushing the narrative that men and women can’t be friends or that friendship is a gateway to a relationship. Yeah. And we’re supposed to feel sorry for Buck by the fact that Taylor friend zoned him when the friend zone does not exist.
The friend zone is just what men say to, um. You know, to, to shit on women basically that won’t sleep with them. Um, and it’s a shitty narrative and I hate it. And I hate that they’re using it in this episode. That’s just my thoughts, my reactions.
Alice: Yeah, that’s fair.
Bex: But I don’t, I don’t like it. Buck is better than that. This show is better than that sometimes. [01:33:00] Sometimes it’s also incredibly, yeah, sometimes incredibly conservative and incredibly, incredibly stuck to gender norms. But I thought the Buck 3.0 was better than this.
Alice: There’s a very loud frog outside my window.
Bex: Is there a heron out there as well? Do you see willow trees?
Alice: Oh my god. I do have a willow tree. We have willow trees.
Ellen: Go and look for an H on the ground.
Alice: And we have narrow waterway.
Bex: Quick get a shovel.
Alice: Oh my God. I don’t think we’ve, what is it a roaring, what’s, what’s the Roaring Bridge thing? I don’t think we have that. Hang on
Bex: “the gray bridge roared.”
Alice: Yeah. Oh, it’s kind of a bridge. It’s got gravel on it. It’s probably gray, the gravel’s gray.
Bex: Um, and that’s the end of the episode. Alright.
Ellen: So that is it.
Bex: So apparently next week it’s just going to be, um, Ellen and I because, because Alice will be off in the Maldives.
Ellen: Yeah. Sitting on the beach. [01:34:00]
Bex: So, fun episode. Um, yeah. But much like
Alice: stupid as fuck, but fun.
Bex: Stupid as fuck, but much. Yeah. I get the same vibes from this episode that I get from “Oceans 9-1-1”, which is Yes.
Alice: Oh, absolutely.
Bex: They’re trying to. Tell they’re trying to set up a mystery. Um, but they don’t actually want the audience to have any part in participating in solving the mystery. They’re just like, no, yeah, we are gonna tell you the story. You just sit back and listen and let us tell you what happened. We we’re not gonna drop any clues.
Um, there is gonna be, I do actually wonder though, ’cause there’s no way that we would ever have known that Jeremiah was the one who found the treasure. And there’s no way that we ever would’ve worked out who killed Hollis or how Hollis died the second time. But I do wonder if anybody is listening to this, if you are a native of LA or you’ve spent time in la or maybe you’re just an American with an incredibly good grip [01:35:00] on like geography would,
Alice: maybe you’ve just played a lot of GTA five,
Bex: would the clues in that incredibly terrible poem or riddle, would you have figured out where it was in LA? Would you have known that it was the Glendale Narrows? I am very curious as to that part, but every other mystery that they set up, um, did no hope and hell for the audience participating.
And as we discussed in Ocean’s 9-1-1, I like a mystery that I can choose whether I wanna participate in or not. Like sometimes I wanna switch my brain off and, and just enjoy the story. Sometimes I wanna actually get involved. But 9-1-1 won’t let you do that. And that annoys me a little bit.
Ellen: Yeah. I was also the, like, I guess they red herringed us into thinking that okay, so there wasn’t any treasure and in a way I would’ve preferred to there not have been any treasure.
Bex: Yeah. If they stopped the episode there
Ellen: and it was all a big hoax,
Bex: if they didn’t keep going with,
Ellen: oh, even if it, even if it continued and then in the [01:36:00] end there was no treasure, I would’ve been fine with that. But the fact that the guy actually took the treasure and fucked off with it like that just made the whole thing just even more stupid than was in the beginning.
Bex: I, yeah. Be, I dunno. Also because you had this entire episode be about trying to find the treasure and then they get to, you drop the red herring there, maybe there is a treasure, maybe there isn’t, and then they decide to throw in an extra two mysteries. Like Yeah.
Alice: And like, why would the assistant put all the treasure into a bag and then rebury the chest? Like, was he just trying to make, um, what’s his face look like a bad guy? Maybe. I don’t know.
Bex: Possibly.
Alice: Anyway, it was like when you switch your brain off and just watch it, it’s fun. Yes. Um,
Ellen: oh, I laughed so much watching this,
Alice: I actually so much enjoyed it watching this more the second, like the first time I did sort of like tune out. I just wasn’t that into it. Um, but yeah, the second time I tuned in, like I was doing something else while watching because obviously it was the second time I’d watched it and I actually paused what I was doing and was [01:37:00] just watching it and enjoyed it a lot more.
Bex: Because. Because you knew what was going on. You knew that there, like even though they got to the, oh, maybe there was no treasure, you knew, hang on. I can’t check out yet because we’ve still got another 15 minutes of this episode to go. Which is,
Alice: yeah. And like, ’cause I was like, oh, it’s like Ravi’s second episode. Let me watch more of Ravi and, you know, Buck and Eddie being idiots and more Taylor Kelly. And I feel like because I know the characters more now, it was more enjoyable.
Bex: Yeah. And I think it’s important for television, especially network television shows that go into syndication. So you do watch them over and over and over again. I think re watchability is important. Um, however, I feel like this episode, you need to re-watch it in order to fully understand what is going on and fully enjoy the episode.
Yeah, pretty much, much. Which means that you, you’ve failed in your attempt to tell the story if somebody has to hear the story twice in order to understand what is going on. ’cause at least “Ocean’s 9-1-1” [01:38:00] you only had to watch it once and you understood what was going on the entire time you were gripped with that story.
Alice: Yeah. Whereas this one I was Buck’s like, “I’m so confused. Can we start over?” Yeah. I was that in this episode.
Bex: And then you risk alienating your audience ’cause you’re like, I, I don’t actually care anymore. I treasure no treasure, I don’t care.
Ellen: Yeah. That was me during like, towards the end of it. I’m like, I don’t know what’s going on anymore and I don’t really care.
Alice: Yes. But yeah, and binging it. Like obviously last week’s episode was very heavy and like, you know, with Sue almost dying, I wasn’t sure if she was gonna die and so this one’s just comic relief. So it’s, it actually like when I binged it, it did give me a chance to sort of sit back and be like, okay, I can like let my brain decompress for a minute.
Bex: But I think you can do that and still, you know, actually tell a good story.
Alice: Oh, definitely. Yeah. Yeah, yeah.
Bex: And be clever in the way you tell your story. Or at least not treat your audience like fucking idiots.
Alice: No, none of us said this was a good story. We said it was fun.[01:39:00]
Bex: I just want them to do one story that is fun and good, like give me one mystery that they do well, yeah, please. Season nine, I’m begging you. Give me a mystery episode. Give me a high step episode. Give me something that you execute well, please.
Ellen: Alright, well what have we got to look forward to next week then?
Bex: Oh, next week we’re gonna take, it’s gonna get a little bit heavier again. Um, the members of the 118 make calls to say, okay, well this one’s not quite so heavy. Um,
Alice: um, nevermind.
Ellen: Not yet. Not yet.
Bex: This, this particular one is not as heavy. The rest of them. Um, the rest of them will be, um, before I, I tell you what is going on, I will tell you that the title of the of the episode is “Suspicion” and we are getting a themed episode.
We’ve got the members of the one team make calls to save a bridezilla at a disastrous wedding and to a [01:40:00] mother trapped on her balcony. Meanwhile, Hen plays medical detective when her mother, Toni falls ill. Also, Eddie and Christopher receive a gift. No. They receive a visit from Carla. Um, Athena uncovers a secret that Bobby has hiding that puts their marriage on the rocks, and Maddie struggles with adjusting to motherhood.
Ellen: Yeah, it is a little heavier.
Bex: The first trigger on our list of triggers is child abuse. Strongly implied to be Munchausen’s by proxy. So yeah, this one’s not just gonna be like rainbows and unicorns.
Alice: Yeah. Strap in guys.
Bex: Um, we also have frank discussion of medical racism slash fatphobia slash misogyny. Um, discussion of postpartum depression and also a jump scare from a gunshot.
And I’m so glad that you’ve already seen this episode ’cause I would have hated for you to go into the episode going, wait, when’s the jump scare? They promised me a jump scare.
Ellen: Yeah. [01:41:00]
Bex: Where’s the kaboom? This supposed to be an earth shattering. Kaboom.
Ellen: It was an earth shattering jump scare.
Bex: It was definitely earth shattering.
Alice: It’s fine, guys. This is a really light episode. It’s fine. Nothing happens. It’s fine.
Ellen: Yeah. Um, so this next episode, “Suspicion” is the 13th episode of the season. It is the penultimate episode. So soon we will be doing the wrap up episode. It is a few weeks away at this point. Um, but the sooner you get your season wrap up thoughts together and let, let us know what you thought of this season, or which was your favorite episode or your least favorite episode.
You know, all the usual things that we like to discuss. I don’t know how I’m gonna put my thoughts on this season into order, honestly.
Alice: Yeah.
Ellen: Um, I have to go on back and look at each individual episode and work out, but, um, you can email them to us. You don’t have to worry about spoilers for the rest of this season, um, because I’ve seen all the way up to the end of it.
But please [01:42:00] mark it as feedback. If you’re gonna talk about, um, spoilers for coming seasons because I haven’t seen them, obviously.
Bex: Yes. So strict strictly season four only guys,
Alice: well season four or three or two or one
Bex: True. Any, any episode, any season up to the end of season four, please don’t go into season five.
Um, as Ellen said, if you are after some ideas on what you want to talk to us about, you can just go onto a freeform ramble about your thoughts about the season in general. Um, if you’ve listened to our wrap up episodes in the past, you’ll know that we usually go through our favorites and our not so favorites.
That being episodes, storylines, characters, emergencies, um, if you would like to suggest Fuck Mary Kills for season four, because I’m struggling to come up with characters to use for this season. So I’d appreciate, um, I appreciate the options. Um, and now that Ellen has finished [01:43:00] season four, send us your Buddie or general 9-1-1 fanfiction recommendations.
Let us know what fanfiction you like to read, um, so that we can get Ellen some ideas, but again, only up to season four. So you might have to scroll through those fics just to make sure that they don’t make reference to any season five or any season six storylines, but there are a plethora of really, really good Buddie fix or general 9-1-1, fics
Alice: so many,
Bex: um, that are season four references only or earlier. So send them in please ’cause I’ve got a heap, but I’m sure that there are many, many more out there that I have not read yet.
Ellen: We may discuss some of them in the wrap up, or we may have an entire fan fiction episode.
Bex: Oh, I’m pushing for an entire fan fiction episode. I want, I want the 9-1-1 spinoff of the Mixtape Book Club [01:44:00] podcast.
Alice: I was gonna say it’s the, it’s the, um, the Mixtape book club. Um, 9-1-1
Ellen: 9-1-1 flavor.
Bex: Yes. But yes, send in your thoughts about the season, Fanfic recommendations, um, or your thoughts about the podcast and our season, our season four. Um, and if you have any questions for any of us burning questions that you’ve had, is there anything about Australia that you’d like to know?
Any fun facts you would like to share with us of stuff that we have brought up um, during the season?
Alice: Do you have any dog training questions? ’cause I’m open to them too.
Bex: Basically, for whatever reason, we would like to hear from you. Please.
Ellen: Of course you can also tell us about this episode as well. The,
Alice: and of course if, if you’re Megan West and listening,
Ellen: oh, don’t start that again.
Bex: Alice has a friendship bracelet for you with her number on it. [01:45:00]
Alice: Have your people contact my people. I, I don’t actually have any people, so I’m not sure who you’ll be contacting, but
Ellen: no people. Alright, so you can send all of that. Um, the feedback is possibly better via email, which is contact@thatweewooshow.com or via DM on our socials.
Um, but you can leave comments on individual episodes or directly in Spotify or on YouTube or wherever you’d like, wherever you listen to us and can leave a comment. That’s all good. Um, and the website, thatweewooshow.com also has all the information about ways that you can subscribe to the podcast so you can find out when new episodes come out.
Um, thank you everyone for listening this week, and we will see you next time to talk about episode 13, “Suspicion”. See you then.
Bex: Bye.
Alice: Bye.
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