4.13: Suspicion

Welcome to That Weewoo Show: a podcast where Bex, Alice and Ellen watch and discuss every episode of ABC’s TV show, 9-1-1.

In this episode we discuss episode 13 of the fourth season of 9-1-1, titled “Suspicion”.

The members of the 118 make calls to save a bridezilla at a disastrous wedding and a mother trapped on her balcony. Hen plays medical detective when her mother falls ill. Athena uncovers a secret Bobby has been hiding.

Content warnings for episode 4.13:

child abuse, strongly implied to be Munchausen’s by proxy, frank discussion of medical racism, fat phobia, misogyny, postpartum depression, jump scare from a gunshot, gore.

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Episode Transcript

Maddie: [00:00:00] 9-1-1, what’s your emergency?

Ellen: Welcome back to That WeeWoo Show, a podcast where we watch and discuss episodes of the A B C show, 9-1-1. I’m Ellen.

Alice: I’m Alice.

Bex: And I’m Bex.

Ellen: Thank you to everyone who’s been listening to our season four episodes. We are almost, almost at the end. This episode is the penultimate episode of the season.

Oh my God. Thank you so much for all of your comments and ratings on Spotify and Apple and all of that. Um, we really appreciate the way that people are, are responding to this, um, season’s episodes. Um, before we get into this penultimate episode, though, Alice, do you wanna let us know what happened last time?

Alice: Yeah. So [00:01:00] last week on 9-1-1, the 118 went on a treasure hunt.

Ellen: Yeah, that’s pretty much it.

Alice: Yeah.

Bex: That’s it. It, yep. Uh, so this week, the 118 are going to be suspicious of everybody, and everybody is gonna be suspicious of everybody. Everyone is. It’s a very suspicious episode. Um,

Ellen: funnily enough,

Bex: and the title of the episode is Suspicious. No. It literally is “Suspicion”, actually.

Alice: Isn’t it Suspicion?

Ellen: Yep, Suspicion.

Bex: Suspicion. To be a little bit more succinct, the members of the 118 make calls to save a Bridezilla at a disastrous wedding and to a mother trapped on her balcony. Meanwhile, Hen plays medical detective when her mother, Toni, falls ill. Eddie and Christopher receive a visit from Carla, Athena uncovers a secret that Bobby has been hiding that puts their marriage on the rocks, and Maddie struggles with adjusting to motherhood.[00:02:00]

And this episode originally aired May 17th, 2021 if anyone is keeping track. And our triggers are child abuse, strongly implied to be Munchausen’s by proxy, frank discussion of medical racism, fat phobia, misogyny, depiction of postpartum depression, and a jump scare from a gunshot. And I’m gonna add in a teeny tiny gore as well to go like that.

Yeah, like not full on gore, but it’s there is. There is blood. So I think it needs to be warned about.

Alice: There will be blood.

Bex: There will be blood.

Ellen: We can also give a warning that for most of this episode, we don’t really care about. Oh, we don’t really like it.

Alice: Not most of it. It’s just a cold open, I think like Hen’s part because like [00:03:00] Hen’s doing things other than stalking foster carers for a change. So,

Bex: uh, I, I mean, I, I think that Hen’s episode’s a little bit clunky. I could quite happily like do without it. I don’t think it adds anything. Um, I, I will let the listeners know that I did motion very strongly for us just to ignore the cold open because I think it’s ridiculous. I was voted down, so we are going to have to talk about it.

Ellen: We can, we can fast forward a little bit. I mean, you know, like go through it quickly.

Bex: Yeah. So it is a themed episode where all of the storylines are about someone having suspicions or being suspicious and our cold open is a woman who is suspicious of her bridesmaids, one of whom she suspects has been posting on the internet about her being a quote unquote Bridezilla.

Alice: Yeah. So basically someone posted on Reddit [00:04:00] saying that the bride was a Bridezilla. They also like talk about what she did, which absolutely makes her a terrible person. Um, she sent the bridesmaids to a nutritionist. Uh, she told them all to make sure none of them were thinner than like the bride. And yeah, she was just very like uptight and awful and no one cares.

Um, she’s got a polygraph, a polygraph before the wedding, like it’s literally the wedding day. They’re getting their makeup done and she’s putting people through polygraphs.

Ellen: The best part of this scene is the song.

Bex: Oh yeah. 100 percent. We get a needle drop, which is “White Wedding” by Billy Idol,

Ellen: which I mean makes it only mildly any better.

Bex: At least I’m, I’m not fast forwarding all the way through it. I’m at least sticking around to listen to the music. Um, so the reason, the reason the 118 are called is because the bride is continuing her [00:05:00] interrogations of her bridesmaids. The polygraph machine had previously been in like an en suite bathroom, but she drags it into the main suite and plugs it into an already very overloaded power board, um, which apparently does not have circuit breakers in it.

So she plugs in the polygraph machine and she immediately gets electrocuted. Everything that’s hooked up to the electricity in the room, explodes, catches on fire, and that is why the 118 is called.

Ellen: The white curtains catch on fire.

Bex: Yes.

Alice: this is why you should buy surge protectors, people.

Bex: Well, I thought power boards had like those built into them.

Ellen: Some do.

Bex: Uh, not all of them. Yeah.

Ellen: Yeah. Old ones don’t.

Alice: But like our power, like the one, the power at my house has a circuit breaker in it, so it’s not a surge protector, but it does have a circuit breaker. So if something gets overloaded or

Ellen: I think all houses do the, do.

Alice: Yeah. That’s what most houses should [00:06:00] have.

Bex: I’m constantly tripping mine,

Alice: I don’t know about America though, because who knows?

Ellen: You can still, I, we have a, like a surge protector, um, power board thing that my, uh, washer and dryer was plugged into and it kept tripping all the time. So I’d like go in there, I’d put the washing on and then. Because the power trips out on it, it would just turn off mid cycle and I wouldn’t know because wouldn’t, it doesn’t beep to tell me that it’s finished.

Um, and then I’d go back in there and like, oh, this is still full of water and it’s been sitting there for like two hours.

Alice: Oh no.

Ellen: So, um, yeah, I, it took me ages to remem like, you know, when you, you think, oh, I’ve gotta get that next time I go to the shops. And then you just at the shops, you do not remember like I should.

Alice: Yeah. That’s my life.

Ellen: And I even like, think I should write myself a list and then I forget to write a list. Um, so eventually I got a new powerboard, what doing, and it’s fine.

Alice: I, um, I shop online, like we order, click and collect most of the time [00:07:00] we go shopping now. And so if I think, oh, like I need to get this, I’ll just add it to the cart.

Ellen: Oh yeah, that’s a good idea.

Alice: ’cause Mum and I share a grocery, like a Woolworths account as well. So then we like whoever wants anything, we just throw it in the cart and then whoever’s actually doing the order, it’s like, oh, do you still want this? Yep. Cool.

Ellen: That’s a great idea. Anyway, this chick gets, uh, electrocuted. No.

Alice: Yep.

Ellen: And when she, wait, when, when the 118 come in and kind of get her awake and sitting up again, she’s just like, her hair is all like, it’s like a cartoon of someone being electrocuted. You know, like her face is all covered in like, soot basically, and like her hair’s sticking it on end. I don’t know if that’s what people who really get electrocuted look like, but,

Bex: and she is, uh, famously missing an eyebrow as well.

Alice: I mean, my dad’s had had electric shocks, but he doesn’t have any hair, so,

Ellen: so you can’t tell if it’s,

Alice: I can’t verify this,

Bex: The resolution of the, [00:08:00] um, the person shit posting about the bride. Turns out it was her mother.

Ellen: Yeah.

Bex: Possibly the, the second redeeming feature of this scene is that the mother confesses that she was the Reddit poster and the other, all of the bridesmaids sort of jump up and like, “No, no, no, no. I was the poster,” and the mother turns around and like, “Damn it, we are not doing Spartacus.”

Alice: “I actually am trapped by bride Bridezilla 100%.” oh. I do love, like, I, I have a soft spot for the Spartacus joke. I don’t know why. It just cracks me up every time I see it. It cracks me up.

Ellen: I, I quite like the way that the 118 are all, like, as the story unfolds and they’re, they get like, their eyes get wider and wider.

Like they’re all wearing masks, so you can’t see their facial expression.

Alice: Yeah.

Ellen: They just, uh, they look more and more like, what the fuck is going on here? Yeah. And as they leave, like Eddie’s like, “good luck for the wedding,” he said.

Bex: Yeah. It’s, it’s [00:09:00] ridiculous.

Ellen: Yeah. She’s determined to, to go on with the wedding and everyone else is like, uh, “no, you kind of need to go to the hospital now.” and I think it kind of comes to her head when she realized the dress is all burnt.

Bex: Yeah, she is. Um, she is determined to go ahead because she can just paint an eyebrow back on. She can get her makeup fixed up. But Bobby points out that the fire that burned the curtains also burned up her dress. And so her beautiful white lace dress is now, I think it’s a gorgeous gray, black kind of look.

Ellen: Yeah. It’s not completely burned to a crisp.

Bex: No, I, I think it looks quite pretty now, but it’s, it’s not what she wanted. And, uh, and her screams of horror are, um, take us to the title card and, and we finally finished.

Ellen: And what was the point of this scene?

Bex: It wasn’t, it’s just. It’s simply because she was suspicious. She had suspicions. It goes with the

Alice: theme.

She had suspicions.

Bex: [00:10:00] That’s, that’s the entire point of it. So after the title card, we go to the Wilson household. Where did you remember that Hen went to med school? Like she’s studying to be a doctor. ’cause we haven’t heard about it for like ages.

Ellen: That’s right. We haven’t.

Bex: Except in this episode…

Alice: She’s been busy committing crimes.

Bex: She’s been so busy, she hasn’t studied, which is why she’s now got Luis and Sydney over to help her study. ’cause she hasn’t studied all season.

Ellen: I’ve forgotten about, uh, these two as well. And when, when they popped up, I was like, oh, it’s those guys. That’s right.

Bex: It’s like they’re, it’s like the writers got to the end of the season, they’re like, shit, we’ve still gotta finish that storyline. But

Ellen: I mean, she has been studying, remember she was walking around with that big textbook a like a couple weeks ago?

Bex: Uh, yeah, true. I forgot the, uh, the very, the very prominent giant textbook that she walks out into the living room with. Um,

Ellen: yeah. [00:11:00] Anyway, they’re, they’re studying, they’re having a discussion about symptoms and diagnoses.

Bex: Uh, when Toni walks in and she’s going to a farmer’s market, um, apparently there are no kids. So it’s just the grow, which is excellent because then we don’t have to worry about, um, Karen or Denny in this episode. ’cause they’re off at Karen’s brothers.

Ellen: I’m sure they’ve got something to be suspicious about too, but they’re not here. So

Bex: they’ve got their own suspicions. But we’re not, we’re not worrying about those. We

Ellen: dunno.

Alice: Um, they couldn’t afford, um, Karen this episode. So she’s just not here

Ellen: too much special effects, huh? Well, there’s not really special effects. It’s just makeup. Anyway, we’re getting ahead. Getting ahead of ourselves.

Yeah, she’s going to the farmer’s market, she’s gonna bring them back a treat. Um, but as she walks out the door, her back, she kind of, this is [00:12:00] cracking sound. And she’s like, “oh my back.” And they’re like, you okay? You okay? She’s like, “oh, my back’s just acting up.” But, um, she still goes to the market and Hen just watches her go looking very worried

Bex: From the Wilson House, we move over to the Bathena residence, where, um, I could not remember the name of this game. It’s not charades? Is it Pictionary? Yeah, I guess,

Ellen: yeah. She’s drawing a picture, right?

Bex: No, but charades, you don’t draw.

Alice: Was she drawing a picture?

Bex: Charades you just act it out.

Ellen: You mime,

Bex: so it’s whatever. Yeah, whatever the game is where you draw pictures and have people try to guess.

Alice: Oh, then yeah, that’s Pictionary.

Bex: That’s Pictionary.

Alice: Honestly, I missed the start of this scene and couldn’t really going back, so

Ellen: yeah. Cool. Um, yes, the actual game, the actual game of Pictionary, you have like a small paper, like a pad, and you sit right next to your partner and you draw, like, this is like a big, this is like Bobby’s,

Alice: this is TV Pictionary because

Ellen: this is [00:13:00] Bobby’s whiteboard that he’s repurposed into a, a flip, um, pad thing that they can draw on it. And then there’s more paper underneath. Yeah.

Bex: No, I, I think it is just a whiteboard. I have a feeling it’s one of those magnetic whiteboards that you can draw on and you can also like stick things to, but yes, I loved the reappearance of the treasure hunt whiteboard.

Ellen: Yeah. But it sounds like they’ve been using it quite a lot because, um, Michael apparently is always partnered with Bobby when they play this.

Alice: Isn’t that so funny?

Bex: That’s the thing. It seems like they’ve been playing Pictionary for ages, but

Alice: Where’s Bobby? I need my partner.

Ellen: Yeah.

Alice: And David’s like, “I thought I was your partner.”

Bex: Yeah. And Michael’s like “You, like in life, you are my partner. In this game, I need Bobby.”

Ellen: Yeah.

Alice: Yeah.

Bex: Um, so yeah, so they’re playing Pictionary. The kids are kicking everybody’s ass. Um, Michael is pouting because he needs Bobby. Um, David is pouting because Michael needs Bobby, Athena is telling David, [00:14:00] it’s for your own good. You do not wanna be partnered with him, trust me. Um, so the man of the hour comes racing down the stairs.

He has come from a lunch, um, which apparently ran late, um, and

Alice: a lunch with someone from work is what he said to Athena.

Bex: Yes, it went long. So he is quite happy to jump in and join them from the game. He just has to take a shower first.

Alice: Yeah. Which is,

Bex: and Athena’s like “what?”

Alice: Very weird because like there’s a shower at the firehouse, so I would assume generally he showers, gets changed into his civvies and then comes home.

Bex: But it sounds like it’s like his off shift, but, so he shouldn’t be at the firehouse and like what kind of lunch is he having that he needs to shower directly after

Alice: that he needs to shower. Exactly. Like it’s super weird

Bex: that it’s, it’s suspicious. Wouldn’t you say?[00:15:00]

Ellen: I don’t have enough alcohol with me for this.

Bex: Okay. So we’ve set up Athena’s storyline. Let’s get back to Toni, who has made her way to the farmer’s market and uh does not really seem to appreciate the wonders of a Californian farmer’s market.

Ellen: Nope. She’s, she’s like side eyeing every stall here. She’s like, pretty much the guy’s trying to sell her, um, wheat grass.

Alice: She’s clearly not used to California at all.

Ellen: No. Um, “wheatgrass can cure just about anything and can help people lose weight,” and she tries it and she’s like, “I’m pretty sure I’d lose my appetite after this.” And you know, she goes on like disparaging every other, vegan non GMO thing in the whole farmer’s market.

Alice: Yeah. So it’s vegan non GMO free from wheat, gluten, [00:16:00] dairy, egg and soy. And she’s like, “So what’s it made out of, air?” Like

Ellen: she’s pretty funny in this scene actually.

Bex: She’s very salty but very dry. Very funny. Yes.

Alice: Um, I actually dunno what it, maybe it’s almond?

Bex: What’s that?

Ellen: Is that the bakery?

Alice: Something that’s vegan, non GMO Free from wheat, gluten, dairy, egg, and soy. Like it can’t be tofu ’cause tofu is soy.

Bex: It’s, it’s a, I’m gonna say it’d be bread, but it’d be like potato or rice flour. That would be the, the base of it.

Ellen: How do you make bread without egg?

Bex: You can, it’s not good, but you can you use

Alice: Yeah, it’s basically just like water and,

Bex: um, there are other, it’s usually soy. Oh no. It’s free from soy. Um,

Alice: yeah, that’s what I mean. I’m like,

Ellen: she’s got a point.

Bex: You can use other binders, but it, it, it just, it does not taste good.

Alice: Yeah. No, but yeah, we, we have a lot of, um, stuff made out of almond [00:17:00] flour ’cause we do

Ellen: well al almond flour cakes and whatever are delicious.

Alice: Some can, yeah, some are.

Bex: It’s heavy though.

Ellen: Anyway, she gets to a fruit stall where they, they have durian, which, um, is the most stinky fruit that you have ever smelled in your life. But actually some people think it tastes really nice. So I don’t, I don’t remember if I’ve tried it or not. I’ve definitely smelled it before I haven taste, but I dunno if I’ve tasted it.

Bex: I have neither tasted it nor smelled it. So I am

Ellen: Yeah, you don’t want to.

Bex: I’m in the dark on

Ellen: it’s, it’s very smelly.

Bex: Uh, Toni has apparently, um, either smelled or tasted during and it’s not something she wishes to repeat. So she’s, after she asks the fruit bender, if they’ve got something, um, a little more recognizable, um, like grapes or oranges.

So the vendor directs her over to the end of the table [00:18:00] where she’s got, um, like 45 different varieties of oranges. But Toni’s not listening. She’s kind of just staring off into the distance and then all of a sudden she collapses.

Alice: Yeah, so they call 9-1-1, but we don’t even get the 9-1-1 call. Um, no because go straight straight to the hospital.

Bex: It’d probably be a boring 9-1-1 call.

Alice: It would be a very boring 9-1-1 call. The oranges are falling, I dunno. Oranges turned her orange?

Bex: Hen goes to the emergency room where they’ve got, um, Toni back in one of their little examination cubicles, um, where a very condescending white male doctor tells Hen that her mother just fainted.

Alice: Yeah, it was probably just vasovagal

Bex: and sometimes people just faint.

Alice: Um, I wanna mention too, that like the doctor, the way that the doctor says it is literally “Your mother experienced a freak [00:19:00] syncopal episode, possibly vasovagal,” and Toni’s just like “A what?” And Hen has to dumb it down for her.

And the only reason to Hen knows is ’cause obviously she’s in the medical field. So like the doctor didn’t even bother explaining to Hen’s mother what happened.

Ellen: I mean, this doctor comes across as very jaded and kind of fed up with his shift right now.

Alice: Yeah.

Ellen: Uh, Hen is suspicious. Uh, she doesn’t think that any of that is correct and there’s something else going on. She’s pretty sure, but the doctor just dismisses her basically. It could, he’s like, “It could be a number of different things.”

Alice: Um, Hen wants an echo run, but the doctor’s just like, “nah. Don’t need it. Um, talk to a primary care physician about adjusting a rod, the blood pressure medication. Think about making some adjustments to a diet and could help, could help to lose weight and stay off webMD.” And like I,

Bex: To be fair, the, the stay off [00:20:00] WebMD was aimed at Hen for the, oh, you should run an echo.

Alice: Yeah. Um, but if I was Hen I would’ve been like, actually I have this background. I would prefer… like always advocate because yes, you will get doctors that brush you off and sometimes you do know better and sometimes you do have to advocate for yourself

Ellen: or for someone else who’s in your care.

Bex: Yes. But then the rest of the storyline couldn’t happen if she like stood up for herself now, the rest of the storyline wouldn’t happen.

Alice: She wouldn’t be able to later. Yes. But yes, if you feel like something’s wrong, advocate,

Ellen: like I’m pretty sure I don’t know about in the US but in Australian hospitals, if you, if you do press for a particular thing, they have to do it. Like I’m pretty sure that you can’t just be brushed off like that.

Alice: Queensland actually has a law surrounding

Ellen: Yeah, we have, um.

Alice: That you can invoke. It’s Ryan’s rule.

Ellen: Ryan’s rule. That’s right. If you think something’s wrong, you can push for it and um, they [00:21:00] have to investigate it.

Bex: But I guess there’s the added layer of complexity in the US that um, if you push for a test or a procedure and the doctors are like going, it’s not indicated and you push for it anyway, the insurance company could deny coverage.

Yeah, yeah. Just they’ll go, well, the doctor didn’t think it was necessary, so we didn’t think it was necessary, so we’re not gonna pay for it. And God knows how expensive those kind of things are.

Alice: Mm, mm-hmm. Thousands, I’m sure.

Bex: Yes.

Alice: Um, so we go to the Diaz household next

Ellen: jump, jumping around a bit in this episode, aren’t we?

Alice: There’s a lot to set up. Yeah.

Bex: A lot of people are suspicious.

Ellen: Everyone’s suspicious of each other.

Bex: Pretty much. Yeah. Um, but this is cute because Eddie is completely freaking out. Um, he keeps arranging and rearranging and fluffing the pillows on the couch while his son and um, Ana look watch on like he’s gone crazy.

Alice: [00:22:00] I pretty sure he has gone crazy.

Bex: Pretty sure he has gone crazy, but it’s quite adorable.

Alice: He wants everything to be perfect ’cause it’s been over a year. Chris is very excited and

Ellen: he’s so excited

Alice: when there’s a knock on the door and the doors opened. It’s Carla.

Bex: Yay.

Alice: I’m pretty sure would not care about the position of the cushions.

Bex: Absolutely not.

Alice: But it’s so good to see Carla.

Bex: It’s so good. And Chris has obviously missed her because he immediately wraps her in a hug and then Eddie immediately just runs over and hugs her too. I don’t think she was expecting that, but he’s really missed her.

Ellen: And Ana’s just like sit standing across the room going, what is happening?

Bex: Yeah. She is like, oh, uh, anybody gonna introduce me? No, I’m just gonna stand here and watch you guys. Okay.

Alice: I mean, I’m sure they told her who Carla is.

Ellen: Yeah. Well they had to make the cake.

Alice: Yeah, [00:23:00] that too.

Ellen: Anyway, they have a lovely, um, dinner.

Alice: Yeah. So Ana’s cooked, and when she tries to clean up, Carla tries to clean up and Chris just yells, “you can’t go in the kitchen.” Carla’s like, okay.

Bex: It’s, it’s, sorry. It’s, I adore Gavin’s line readings sometimes. It’s very much,

Alice: it’s so funny.

Bex: He’s very shouting at her. “You can’t go in the kitchen.”

Alice: It’s very much like 8-year-old boy or whatever he is supposed to be. Just like, no, you can’t go in the kitchen’s, like shit. Okay. Sorry.

Bex: So Ana and Chris disappear into the kitchen, leaving Eddie and Carla to catch up. Um, and it’s a, a pretty quick catch up. Eddie tells Carla that he’s really sorry about her father, which is why she’s been gone, gone for so long. Carla is sorry that she has been gone for so long, um, and they’re both like, no, no, no. Everything’s cool. You are where you’re supposed to be. We understand.

Alice: No, it’s fine. No, it’s fine. No, it’s [00:24:00] fine. No, it’s fine. Yeah. Okay. We get it. There’s no hard feelings. It’s all good.

Bex: And then topic of conversation turns to Christopher. Like, Christopher looks like he’s doing well. Eddie’s like, “yep. He’s, you know, almost back to his happy self and he loves having Ana around.” Except for some reason in this episode, Ryan has decided he’s gonna go with the American pronunciation of her name.

Ellen: Oh.

Alice: Yeah, so if you remember… I think we mentioned the first episode that Ana was in where we couldn’t decide how to pronounce it.

Bex: Yes.

Ellen: And apparently it’s because Eddie can’t decide how to pronounce it.

Alice: It’s because Eddie doesn’t know how to pronounce it. So he pronounces it different every time he fucking says it.

Bex: I’m wondering if it’s because he’s got Cocoa on the scene with him and she calls him, she calls her Anna so Ryan calls her Anna. But when he’s talking to her on her own or he is talking to someone else, he’ll use the La Latina pronunciation.

Alice: Yeah, Latina. But the, remember the scene that I watched was like to check. [00:25:00] It was just, yeah, Eddie and Ana, and he still pronounced the Ana and I was just like, what the fuck is happening? Anyway, so Eddie doesn’t know what he’s doing.

Bex: Ryan, Ryan doesn’t know what the fuck he’s doing. I’m gonna stick with the Latina pronunciation ’cause I think that’s like, that’s her name.

Alice: Yeah. So. Uh, Ms. Flores is, let’s just go with Ms. Flores. Carla asks about how Eddie feels about young Ms. Flores and Eddie’s like, “Yeah, it’s nice. It’s easy.” It’s like, that’s… okay. Yep.

Ellen: That’s, um, yeah,

Bex: that’s not exactly, um, like a ringing endorsement or a, you know, massive, a romantic declaration. Um, it, it’s nice. Really?

Ellen: Yeah. Be careful how loud you say that because if she, she’s just in the other room, like,

Alice: yeah, I know. She’s like, what the fuck? Um, yeah, and Carla, like, Carla gets it straight away.

Bex: Carla says that. Yes, she [00:26:00] is nice. She actually says that she’s lovely. Um, but just

Alice: Even Carla’s nicer to Ana than Eddie

Bex: it’s just, “but just make sure that you are following your heart, not Christopher’s.” And like, I understand what she means. She’s like, just don’t stick with this woman because it makes your son happy. But I’m putting my clown makeup on and I’m like, Carla, what do you mean by that?

Like, what do you mean your, what do you mean follow his heart?

Ellen: It’s,

Bex: I’m gonna take the makeup off now.

Ellen: Are you channeling that one episode in Supernatural where Buck’s mum tells, um,

Alice: Buck’s, mother

Ellen: Buck’s mum tells Dean to follow his heart. Um, yeah. And also Eddie goes, oh, we had this treasure hunt thing and Ana wasn’t around when I needed her, so, you know, I had to go and like, make some deal with Taylor Kelly and it was shit.

Alice: Buck and Taylor Kelly were flirting and it made me angry for reasons I can’t explain.

Ellen: Yeah. [00:27:00]

Bex: Uh, but before Carla can explain what the hell she’s talking about, Chris and Ana appear with two cakes, birthday cakes for Carla because they missed Carla’s birthday for the last two years. So they’re making up for it.

Ellen: Aw.

Bex: So while Carla is freaking out over how sweet that is and the disturbing number of candles that are on the cake, um,

Ellen: there are a lot of candles.

Bex: There are a lot of candles. As Carla says, it’s a good thing there’s a firefighter in the house. Yes. Um, Eddie is watching Ana and Chris together, and at first he’s just like this, got this smile on his face like, oh, isn’t that cute? You know how much Chris loves her, how much she loves him, and then you just see the smile slip from his face. It’s like, oh,

Ellen: he just realized maybe he doesn’t like her as much as Chris does. Yeah. Oh, that’s harsh.

Alice: And then we go to [00:28:00] poor Maddie.

Bex: We do go to poor Maddie.

Ellen: Oh, Maddie is, who is dissociating in the break room at work.

Bex: Yes, she is at work. She is on what Sue says is her third cup of coffee.

Alice: Not that she’s counting,

Bex: um, not that Sue’s counting. Um, and we find out that as exhausted as Chim and Maddie were in the first few weeks of Jee’S life, it’s ramped up exponentially because now it appears that Jee has colic and Maddie is getting absolutely no sleep because she cannot put Jee down.

Ellen: I, I had, I had one of those as well.

Bex: Oh, I’m sorry.

Ellen: Yeah, but it wasn’t, I don’t, it wasn’t this bad, I don’t think. Like she would cry from about five to eight o’clock every evening. Um, just nothing you could do would calm her down and, but she did sleep [00:29:00] during the night some of the time. Like, I don’t remember how much sleep I was getting at that point, but it’s probably not a lot. But

Alice: Were you back at work then too?

Ellen: No, absolutely not. This was while I was on maternity leave.

Alice: Yeah. That helps as well. Yeah.

Bex: Yeah. Yeah. So that’s the other thing. So, and the, the weird, the, the thing with colic is that no one actually knows what it is. It’s just a label that they stick on babies who are inconsolable and you can’t put them down. It, it’s not an actual medical condition as far as I’m aware.

It’s just like sad baby disease. It’s just we don’t know what’s wrong with them, so we’re just gonna call it colic and you’re just gonna have to deal with it until they outgrow it. Mm-hmm. Um, which is apparently what has happened in this case, the doctor has gone, it’s just colic, which is code for, I don’t know what’s wrong with her, but I can’t tell you that.

I dunno what’s wrong with her, but. As much as Maddie’s exhaustion and Maddie’s distress is not just because she’s not sleeping and Jee’s not sleeping, it’s that she feels that there’s something seriously wrong with Jee because [00:30:00] it’s the way that she cries.

Alice: So that’s interesting. I just looked it up because I was curious ’cause I have horses and not babies.

Bex: Yeah. Horses get colic.

Alice: Colic in horses is an abdominal issue.

Bex: Yeah.

Alice: Um, whereas yeah, colic in babies is literally just, uh,

Bex: yeah.

Alice: So, yeah. Interesting. I I assumed that like colic in babies was the same sort of thing in colic and Nope.

Ellen: I I always thought it, it was some kind of digestive thing, but that they just slap that label on a number of things it sounds like. Yes. Like anything that they don’t really know what it is. They just assume that it’s a digestive problem,

Alice: but Yeah. ’cause colic can kill horses and I was just like, and I,

Bex: yes.

Alice: This whole time I’ve been like, oh my God, the poor dying babies. Why is no one more concerned about this? Yeah, no. Apparently it’s just ’cause they’re crying a lot.

Bex: Yeah.

Alice: Which like fair. Same.

Bex: So now that we’ve planted that little seed, um, Maddie is gonna get to work and she’s gonna take a phone call from a young boy named Charlie. Um, he is at the [00:31:00] Regal Point apartments and his mother is stuck and he can’t go help her because he’s sick and he can’t leave the apartment.

And when he says that she’s stuck, she’s literally fallen through her the balcony and she’s stuck.

Ellen: Yeah, that’s weird

Bex: hanging chest deep in the balcony legs swinging underneath.

Ellen: Yeah. Actually it’s funny in this scene, um, I was watching it again the other day and my husband walked in the room and saw this woman in, ’cause the way the balcony is like, it’s got, looks like it’s got paving on it.

Like it’s got. Like around her is like pavers kind of thing, and he’s like, mm-hmm. Did did she get buried in the, in the road? Like how was she stuck in the Oh no, it’s a balcony and like the, the next scene is her legs dangling underneath it. He’s like, oh, okay. Just looked like she was buried in the road.

Bex: Yeah.

Ellen: Anyway, yeah, the, the 118 roll up and they get, um, up there via ladder. They can’t go up the [00:32:00] inside the building. Uh, they directly go from the outside. So this is, this is really funny actually, I like this,

Bex: but then they need an excuse. They need an excuse to roll out the ladder truck.

Ellen: Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, I love this because Buck gets up there and, um, he’s going under like to the balcony below um, Sheila, who’s the, the woman’s name, she actually gets named Hooray. Um, I mean, I dunno if we’re yay about that because we don’t actually like Sheila in the end. But anyway, Buck, Buck sort of starts climbing onto this balcony, but then this dude comes out of the apartment. And he doesn’t even realize at first because he is wearing earphones and, and um, he sort of looks up and Buck’s there and he is like, he doesn’t even say anything. Buck just goes, “um, sir can we use your balcony?” And the guy,

Alice: it’s to help her.

Ellen: Just to help her. Yeah. He looks up

Alice: and it’s just legs,

Ellen: “Sheila?” and he’s like, “okay, I’m gonna go cook inside.” So

Bex: [00:33:00] yeah, ’cause he is, he’s got a barbecue or a grill out on the balcony. He’s intending to grill some hot dogs. Um, although we get a shot from when Sheila first goes through the balcony and that the debris from the balcony has fallen onto the grill. So how did this guy not notice that there were big chunks of rock on his grill before he noticed?

Ellen: Don’t know.

Bex: Anyway.

Alice: I wasn’t paying attention. That’s fine.

Bex: There’s so much in this fair that’s for the drama. But

Alice: to be fair, my dad, like I. I got Mum to pick me up like a slab of bottles bottled water the other day. And I went to collect it from the house and Mum’s just like, no, no, your dad already brought it down.

Could not find it anywhere. Literally looked everywhere. This is the morning that I had to get up at 4:00 AM mm-hmm. So I’d had like no sleep, could not find it. The next morning I walked out, I was literally just outside my door. Oh. Like to the point where I was like, dad, when did you bring that? And he is like, when it got home, like, you know, um, Thursday afternoon and I’m like, oh yeah, okay. Could not.

Ellen: So it’s been sitting there outside the door for all this time.

Bex: So you’re [00:34:00] saying,

Alice: so I don’t blame him at all.

Bex: You’re saying his obliviousness is not, um,

Alice: yeah.

Bex: Okay, cool.

Alice: Totally, totally. Um, feel that.

Bex: Right. So with, um, Buck and Bobby on the balcony underneath Sheila, Eddie is then cleared. They repositioned the ladder, um, and they sent him up to Sheila’s balcony so that he can secure her. So he climbs up and then Joey Tribbianis her. He’s like, “Hey, how you doing?”

Ellen: He’s very, uh, chipper actually.

Bex: Are, is he actively flirting with her?

Ellen: It does sound quite flirty

Bex: because Sheila responds like, you know, I know I put on a few pounds in over quarantine, but I didn’t think it was that bad.

And Eddie’s like, yeah, from the looks of you, I don’t think you have anything to worry about. I’m like, sir,

Alice: it’s very flirty.

Bex: He just, okay, good. Because I thought I was realized crazy.

Ellen: Realized he doesn’t actually like Ana all that much. So you know, now he can turn the charm on with everybody else. Right?

Bex: Because I wasn’t sure whether this is like [00:35:00] Eddie, just Eddie is not Buck, like Buck flirts with everything that moves and it’s not actively flirting.

That’s just Buck’s personality. Eddie has to work for it to be flirty ’cause he doesn’t know how to flirt. He’s terrible with women. So this is such an interesting scene that suddenly he’s like oozing charm.

Ellen: Yeah, he’s very charming.

Bex: So he is going to secure Sheila with the rescue strap. And Buck and Bobby underneath have like this sheet of plywood ready to catch her if the balcony does give way and she slips through the rescue strap. But Eddie,

Ellen: uh, I’m not sure how effective that would be if she fell through. Like wouldn’t. Yeah. Anyway. It’s for the drama. It’s fine. Totally fine.

Bex: Yeah. We are not, actually, we’re not worried about Sheila at this point. Sheila is not the important thing. The important thing is Charlie who is watching all this from inside the [00:36:00] apartment.

So, um, they, he gets Sheila secured. He promises her that she’s not gonna fall, but he has to leave her for a minute and let the paramedics in. So he climbs into the apartment, says hi to Charlie, and then goes to let Hen and Chim in. Hen’s got the medical equipment. Chim’s got like planks of plywood, so that they can build a, a frame around Sheila and the balcony and shore up and an little extra support.

Ellen: Yeah. I guess they must have worked out that the actual, it’s just the floor of the balcony that’s the problem. And not the actual whole balcony is about to fall off, you know? Yeah. Otherwise they wouldn’t bother with that.

Bex: Yeah. I think they’ve determined, Eddie’s determined that the, the slats are rotted away like water damage or termites for whatever ever reason, but the, the structural integrity of the balcony itself is fine.

Ellen: Yeah.

Bex: Um, so Buck and Eddie get hooked up [00:37:00] to safety harnesses and safety ropes. They go out, they start chipping away at the hole so that they can widen it so that they can lift Sheila up and out and get her into the apartment so that they can, um, assess her. Yeah, because Chim’s noticed that she’s sort of actively bleeding from her legs and they can’t do anything about those wounds until they get her inside. Which they do.

Ellen: Yeah. They, they pull her up.

Alice: Um, be awkward otherwise,

Ellen: otherwise, Eddie is very charming again. He’s like, “oh, just put your arms around my neck. Oh, I got you. It’s gonna be okay.” She’s just looking at him going, okay.

Bex: He literally princess carries her into the apartment and lays her down on the gurney, like, yeah.

So once she’s on the gurney, they notice the wounds on her leg. She’s got a pretty deep gash on her thigh that’s gonna need stitches, which means that she has to go down to the hospital and Sheila starts to freak out a little bit. She can’t go to the [00:38:00] hospital, um, because she has Charlie. And Bobby’s immediately like, “oh cool, he can, he can ride along in the truck with us.”

That’s fine. She’s like, “no, no, no. He can’t leave the apartment. He’s got an autoimmune disease. The hospital is the worst place for him. Um, I don’t have anyone to stay with him. I can’t go,” and Eddie’s like, “I’ll stay. I got a kid around Charlie’s age, we’ll hang out. We’ll be fine.”

Alice: Yeah. She was like, no. Carla came back like 30 seconds ago and he’s already just like, yeah, I’ve just adopted this child. Um, can you just stay with Chris?

Bex: Bobby seems completely okay with losing one of his firefighters too. So they wheel a protesting, um, Sheila out and Eddie stays behind to and like busy work. He’s gonna unhook all of the safety ropes and bonding moment with Charlie. Asks Charlie if he wants to help. Charlie looks absolutely chuffed to be asked to do something.

Alice: Yeah.

Ellen: All right, so in the meantime we’re gonna go back to the Bathena residence where Athena is doing the [00:39:00] laundry and she picks up, um, Bobby’s shirt from the dirty clothes basket, and she like smells it because I, I think, I’m guessing that she must have been suspicious about the fact that he like… suspicious have a drink. Um, she, that he needed a shower as soon as he got home the other day.

Bex: No, I think, I think with this, it’s like she grabs the hamper and as she’s sort of picking it up and walking at, she smells something. ’cause there’s a moment where she picks it up.

Alice: Yeah. Think she already smell it. Yeah.

Bex: And she goes, goes, Ooh. And then so she starts going through and sniffing all of the shirts to figure out what it is like which one it is that smells, and then she finds that shirt that Bobby was wearing and sniffs that it’s like, oh Jesus, it’s that one.

Ellen: Yeah.

Bex: Um, and then immediately calls her ex-husband because of course you do. And we find out that the, the shirt reeked of bourbon.

Alice: Yeah. Not ideal for a. Um, recovering alcoholic

Ellen: and yeah, she’s worried about him again. [00:40:00] And Michael is like, “I’ve gotta say, none of this sounds like the Bobby I know.” And it’s like, wait a minute, Michael, whose husband are we talking about here?

Alice: Michael and Bobby are very besties in this episode,

Ellen: very besties.

Alice: Like David, who,

Ellen: poor David. It’s his turn to be friend zoned. She puts two and two together and, uh, you know, remembers the crash where Bobby was affected by the fact that this woman did it because she was drunk driving. She’s like, “oh, what if, what if he’s had that one bad day and gone back to drinking again?”

Michael doesn’t seem convinced, but I, I think Athena’s got the, got the thought in her head now, so we know what she’s like.

Bex: Mm-hmm. Yes.

Ellen: So now, um, Eddie has just made himself right at home in this apartment. He’s, he’s like cooked food for, um, for, uh, what’s the kid’s name again? Charlie.

Bex: [00:41:00] Charlie.

Ellen: And, and then he’s like FaceTiming with, with Carla and um, Chris, so that, um, Charlie and Chris can have a little, you know, chat.

Bex: Well later on we find out that there, I dunno that there was a television in the, in the house or any kind of computer games. So Eddie was probably at a loss with what to actually do with the kid.

Alice: Yeah, I’m sure he was so bored.

Bex: He’s like, you know, I’ll just throw my kid at you and you two can entertain each other.

Ellen: Yeah.

Bex: Which is, um, kind of adorable because we get, um, we get the, the idea that once again Eddie is a terrible cook. Um, because Charlie tells Chris that his mom is a terrible cook. But your dad’s great. And Chris is immediately like,

Alice: yeah, how bad is his mom at cooking?

Bex: But, but he thinks Eddie’s cooking is great. Yeah. Um,

Ellen: because it makes him sick all the time.

Bex: Chris has just gone, Chris has just gone, “Wait, did he order you [00:42:00] takeout?” Carla’s like, “I was thinking the same thing.” Eddie’s like, “Hey, I am right here. I can hear you.” so then Charlie accidentally knocks over a glass of water on the table and Eddie jumps up to grab paper towels to clean it up.

Um, apparently when he was making himself at home in the kitchen and going through this woman’s fridge and pantry, um, he didn’t find any paper towels. So he is at a loss. Charlie points him in the right direction and we get a very obvious shot of Eddie opening the cupboard and there’s this stack of tiny little bottles and then.

We cut to the front of those tiny little bottles where it says, Sight Saved on the front of all the tiny little bottles. And then Eddie finds the paper towels,

Ellen: big neon signs.

Bex: They’re, they are not, they’re absolutely not subtle in this episode at all. Big flashing, neon signs about everything [00:43:00] going on.

Alice: It’s fine. She just has a lot of contact lenses,

Bex: but she keeps them in the kitchen? Like, I remember when I had contacts, I did not keep my eyedrops in the kitchen. They were in the bathroom.

Ellen: It’s suspicious.

Bex: But Charlie, Charlie doesn’t notice the big flashing, neon signs and like, uh, warning. Warning that’s going on in the kitchen.

Ellen: Neither does Eddie.

Bex: Um, he’s still chatting. He’s still chatting with Charlie, uh, with, um, Chris and Carla’s. Too many C-names in this, in this scene. Um, Carla’s making. Car’s making small talk and asking what school Charlie goes to. Charlie’s like, “I don’t go to school ’cause I’m too sick to go to school. Um, you know, I, I only ever really leave the house for doctor’s appointments.”

And Chris was like, “oh yeah, I I totally feel that. What kind of doctor? I get that too.” And Charlie’s like, “I don’t know. We, we were always going to see new ones.” Eddie’s checked back into the conversation at this point and he’s like, “oh, that sounds expensive. What does your mom do [00:44:00] for work?” And Charlie’s like, uh, we just get money from GoFundMe pages

Alice: pretty much,

Bex: except it’s, they’re called “Fund Me” pages, not GoFundMe, because, um, the show doesn’t wanna get sued.

Yeah, yeah. Especially considering what they then imply about the, the GoFundMe pages later on. Um, but before Eddie can inquire any more about Charlie and his doctors and these GoFundMe pages, Sheila walks in.

Ellen: Yeah, that was quick.

Bex: And I can imagine she, I can imagine she’s been chomping at the bit to get outta the hospital and get back to Charlie.

Ellen: Yeah. I mean she wasn’t really injured.

Alice: Yeah. I feel like as soon as they finished the last stitch, she, she was out of that, ran out and they were like, uh, what?

Ellen: Yeah. I mean the only, the only injury she had was like that cut on her leg I guess. And once they patched her up she was probably like, okay, bye.

Bex: Yep. Um, she notices that there’s food on the table and she’s like, “oh, you [00:45:00] cooked.” She does not look at all happy. And Eddie’s like, “Yeah, I’m just trying to help out.” Um, she’s like, “no, Charlie has a very sensitive stomach.” And Charlie goes, “I don’t feel sick at all after eating Eddie’s food.”

Ellen: It’s like, ow. Thanks kid.

Bex: I’ll mention this bit just ’cause it’s adorable. He, he then, uh, points to the phone that he’s talking to. Um. Christopher and Carla on. He’s like, “This is my new friend Christopher.” And then Christopher’s line is literally, it’s, “hi, Charlie’s mom. Bye. Charlie’s mom. Bye Charlie. Bye dad.” Like all in one sentence, which is very cute.

Ellen: Yeah.

Bex: Um, Charlie thinks Christopher is super cool and wants to know if he can hang out with him sometime. And Sheila does that like, “uh, we’ll see,” which like every kid who’s ever heard their parents say that knows that means no.

Alice: Yeah. That’s a no. [00:46:00]

Bex: Yeah. And Eddie’s like, that’s suspicious. That’s weird.

Ellen: Well, I don’t know if he’s like suspicious at this point, but he’s like thinking that, that’s really kind of sad.

Bex: But the, the episode is suspicious, so everyone has to be suspicious.

Ellen: I don’t think he’s suspicious until later when Ana is suspicious.

Bex: I’m, I’m applying some kind of suspicion at this point.

Ellen: Okay. Alright.

Bex: Only because his kid is so awesome. He’s like, why wouldn’t you want your kid to hang out?

Ellen: Yeah. How dare you?

Bex: My kid’s awesome.

Ellen: Yeah.

Alice: Yeah. Literally like, oh, is is it because he has CP? ‘Cause like, fuck you.

Ellen: Is it because I came into your house and used your kitchen without your permission? Like I’m just trying to help.

Alice: Is it ’cause I literally threw you out of your own house. Yeah. And stole your child is totally normal, you know?

Ellen: Yeah.

Bex: [00:47:00] Suspicious.

Alice: Don’t be suspicious. Don’t, don’t be suspicious.

Bex: Okay. Um, we are, I dunno when I, there is no time markers in this episode, so at. Some point during the day we go back to the station house where Hen looks like she’s supposed to be studying ’cause she’s in med school, remember? She’s studying for med school.

Alice: Is she in med school? Oh yeah, that’s right. We haven’t, we haven’t spoken about it for so long.

Bex: But she is, uh, also on the phone talking to her mother.

Ellen: Yeah, she’s not nagging, she’s just checking in and her but, um, phone, her mom hangs up on her. I guess she’s sick of the nagging.

Bex: So Chim joins Hen over on the couches and um, asks how she’s doing with everything. And Hen says that she’s a little bit freaked out ’cause she doesn’t know what’s wrong with Toni. Chim’s like, “well, maybe you should take her to a specialist.”

and Hen’s like, [00:48:00] “yeah, love to, but you need to know which specialist to take her to. And the specialist is dictated by what’s wrong with her. I don’t know what’s wrong with her. Therefore, I don’t know which specialist to take her to. The doctor that we saw at the ER was no help. ’cause he just dismissed us.” And Chim’s like, “Yeah, you know what it’s like in the ER.” And Hen’s like, gives him a look.

And he’s like, “Oh no, no, I’m, I’m not defending him at all. I’m sure he was a horrible doctor. Absolutely dismissive of you.”

Ellen: Yeah. And Hen says that he barely acknowledged us and he acted as though we, I offended him, like, how dare you. But, um, but yeah, “maybe our experience would’ve been different if he’d looked more like us.”

But, um, then Chim reveals that when his mom was sick, he was a 12-year-old Korean boy translating for his sick mother. So he gets it.

Bex: I do find this scene a little bit clunky, like I understand what they’re trying to [00:49:00] say. And it’s not even what they’re trying to say because they flat out say it in like the worst dialogue possible.

Ellen: Yeah.

Bex: With “That’s why people like you and me can’t put our trust in doctors because they don’t trust us.” Yeah. Like, oh, I mean, yes. But who wrote this episode? Did I find, did I figure out who wrote this episode?

Alice: It was Andrew Myers and Lindsay Beaulieu.

Bex: Oh really?

Ellen: Yeah. Usually they’re pretty good at this same stuff.

Bex: Damn, that’s disappointing. Chim does a very awkward segue into the next scene by saying that what Hen needs are some brilliant medical minds to bounce ideas off of. And Hen’s like, “Yeah, where am I gonna find those brilliant medical minds?” Chim’s like, “I’m pretty sure you already know them.” And hands up.

Alice: Yeah. Chim’s like, you’re in med school. I know we’ve all forgotten, but you are actually in med school.

Bex: So the next scene, we are back at the Wilson [00:50:00] household where the Three Musketeers are going to try and diagnose Toni. And it looks like they’ve grabbed Bobby’s whiteboard from the Bathena residence.

Ellen: Oh yeah.

Alice: Oh, Bobby’s being shifty. So Athena just gave it to Hen. She’s like, fuck this guy. Take his whiteboard.

Ellen: Oh, someone does actually say the word suspicion in the, this is the index of suspicion. They’re gonna try and work out what’s wrong with her by going through a bunch of different things, um, and looking them up in their textbooks, which is almost for not quite the same thing as Dr. Google.

Alice: It’s literally just Googling it except longer because they can’t even control-F

Ellen: Yeah. They have to look in the index.

Bex: So it’s pretentious Googling.

Ellen: Yeah, basically

Alice: because they’re in med school.

Ellen: I mean, they are probably slightly more educated than the rest of us plebs because they actually have done a bit of medical schooling. But, but um,

Bex: I’d say it would be [00:51:00] worse because they have access to, um, ’cause Google’s gonna point you to the, the most obvious, um, and the most logical explanation, whereas they’ve got that entire textbook so they can go right beyond the horses and find the zebra. Um, whereas Google’s not gonna point you to the zebras.

Alice: I now that Google AI is a thing though, Google AI is just like, yeah, you’ve probably got a motherboard issue.

Bex: But the funniest thing is that they’re doing all this with Toni in the room with them. And she just keeps making, uh, snarky comments.

Ellen: Oh, her eyes are rolling so hard.

Bex: Like, uh, Luis presents patient history, 62-year-old female presents with dizziness and intimate back pain. Patient has history of high blood pressure and smoking.

Toni’s like, “I haven’t smoked a cigarette since before Henrietta was born.” And Sydney’s like, “it still counts.”

Alice: Yep. Still goes in the history.

Bex: Uh, [00:52:00] they’ve somehow have a blood pressure machine, um, and they’re checking Toni’s blood pressure, which is a little bit elevated that could be caused by stress. Um, and Hen’s like, “okay, so why would she be stressed?”

And Toni’s like, “I don’t know. Maybe because you keep referring to me as she?”

Ellen: I do like the snark in the scene. It’s great.

Bex: It’s, it’s so cute. There’s like,

Alice: I do like Toni.

Ellen: Yeah.

Bex: Um, Luis has a crazy thought that perhaps the symptoms are, uh, indicative of Huntington’s disease. And so Sydney asks Toni whether she’s experienced any other loss of motor function.

And Toni’s like, “I did my nails this morning,” and she shows Sydney. “I think I did a pretty good job.”

Alice: Yeah. Yeah. They were actually really nice. They’ve got like a pattern on them, everything,

Bex: which is very, very, very indicative of her having very good fine motor functions. So it’s not Huntington’s at this point,

Ellen: but they like cross a whole bunch of stuff off the list and remove all their post-its.

Alice: It’s the [00:53:00] full on House MD sort of scene.

Bex: And they do reference lupus.

Alice: They do reference lupus. Um, I was very happy about it. Um, also Lyme disease, which was also the thing that was most common in House.

Bex: Oh, Ellen’s not a House MD fan?

Ellen: No, I haven’t watched any of it.

Alice: What? Oh my God. Get on the Hillson train.

Ellen: I don’t really do medical shows apart from this one.

Alice: It’s like me being like, I don’t watch cop shows. And Bex being like, you’re literally actively watching The Shield right now, like we’re recording and you haven’t turned it off.

Bex: Um, but despite them having crossed off everything, um, from like anemia through lupus and Lyme disease, when Toni gets up, she, they don’t, they haven’t figured out what’s wrong with her and when she gets up to leave, she collapses again. But this time,

Ellen: this time Hen’s got her magical powers.

Bex: [00:54:00] Yes. And she immediately starts checking Toni’s abdomen and picks up a pulsating sensation around her navel that is definitely cardiac and assumes that it is, it is her abdominal a aorta. That’s it. That’s a mouthful. Mm-hmm. Um,

Alice: yep. And so abdominal aortic aneurysm.

Bex: Yeah. So Sydney has apparently picked up Hen’s magical diagnosing skills as well. Um, or maybe just because she’s super smart. Um, she immediately goes to aaa, which is an aneurysm of the abdominal, um, aorta.

Ellen: And they gotta get her to the hospital

Bex: because if that aorta ruptures, it’s like, game over.

Ellen: Yeah.

Alice: Yep. Bye-Bye Toni.

Bex: But before they take her to the hospital, we have to stop in at the Madney apartment where Chim’s arriving home from shift somewhere. I don’t know. Time doesn’t make sense in this [00:55:00] episode. Um, and all he can hear is Jee-Yun crying.

Ellen: Oh, this, the cuts in this scene are really, was strange as well because she, uh, Maddie picks up. Obviously the the baby doll.

Bex: The baby doll. Yep.

Ellen: And then, and then the cut is like, to her holding the real baby because the baby is like wriggling around and stuff. It’s like really awkwardly done.

Alice: I like how they let Oliver Stark run down some stairs with a real baby. And then, um, Jennifer Love Hewitt is acting tired

Bex: who has children,

Alice: and they’re like, no, you’re not allowed to lift this child up from the cot. Let’s give you a baby doll.

Bex: Yeah, they will, they will give Oliver a real child. But the woman, and he has not, doesn’t have kids, yet the woman who’s like got two kids probably pregnant with a third at this point, she’s not allowed to, to handle the real baby.

Ellen: Maybe they had to reshoot

Alice: unacceptable.

Ellen: They had to reshoot that particular shot after that real baby had gone home or something.

Bex: I don’t know. It’s, it’s very [00:56:00] obvious. It’s a very weird cut. And to put sort of salt on Maddie’s wounds, she immediately eets the baby at Chim. And Gian pretty much immediately starts crying, stops crying.

Alice: Poor Maddie.

Ellen: Maddie looks very frazzled.

Bex: Yeah. Again, I think it’s not just the, the lack of sleep, um, it’s the, or the, the constant crying. It’s the, the frustration that she really feels that something is wrong with Jee and she just doesn’t know how to help her.

Ellen: She’s gonna go hop in the shower to collect her thoughts,

Bex: drown her, drown herself in the shower while she can. So she leaves, she leaves Jee with Chim, but she does sort of linger in the corner to watch them together. Um, Chim is very good with the baby.

Ellen: It’s really cute. I think the scene’s got like the longest we’ve actually seen the real baby. Because, because you can see when [00:57:00] Kenny is holding the real baby because it, it jiggles around.

You know how the other day we was like, a couple weeks ago, we was saying that the baby doll doesn’t move? So. It doesn’t look realistic because it’s just really still. Yes. But yeah, this bundle is actually wriggling around as he’s holding. So,

Bex: and he’s holding it as if he’s holding a real baby. There is weight to and intention to his, his posture.

Ellen: Yep. I can’t unsee it now.

Alice: It’s like me and the damn coffee cups.

Ellen: Yeah. Yes.

Bex: So after that little, uh, baby interlude, which I’m guessing was just to fill in time while Hen got Toni to the hospital, um, we are at the hospital and Luis and Sydney have joined Hen. Luis steals a wheelchair from a, a, a nurse. They get. Toni,

Alice: this is a really weird scene. I didn’t quite get it.

Bex: Hen and Luis wheel [00:58:00] Toni past reception. While Sydney plays interference, she distracts the distracting.

Ellen: It’s weird.

Bex: So they can get Toni straight through into, um, the emergency, like behind the doors where you actually, you know, see the patients, I’m guessing so they can bypass triage.

Ellen: Yeah. I feel like this is a good way to get yourself thrown out of the hospital, but, um,

Alice: yeah, it’s very strange. I don’t know. I didn’t like this scene.

Bex: It gets even stranger because they get into the emergency part where they’re actually seeing patients and Hen like immediately snaps into like paramedic mode.

She’s like, I’ve got, she gives the, um, history and the symptoms and demands that they get an electrocardiogram and the nurse is looking at her going like, because Hen’s in civvies, um, she’s got what looks like a teenage boy next to her. Um, and she’s like, what the, what the fuck? And the teenage boys is like, “hello? You heard her.”

Which snaps [00:59:00] the nurse like, yes sir. Right away, sir. And they run off to find an an echocardiogram, which apparently they do. They allow him to stay in the hospital instead of like yeeting her out.

Ellen: Yeah.

Bex: Or calling security on her. And it’s the same doctor that saw her in the ER that saw Toni in the ER earlier who is now having to eat his words because the echo and the EKG did in fact show a, a triple A and Toni is being prepped for surgery.

Alice: She’s a little bit dying. It’s fine.

Ellen: And so Hen tells the doctor, um, like he asks if she’s got, you know, the surgical team will come and answer any questions and Hen’s like, “well, hopefully they do a better job than you did the other day.” And he’s just like, “I, excuse me?” But she basically tells him that he’s crap.

You know, you, “if I hadn’t brought her back in, you know, she could have [01:00:00] died like you sent us home.” And he’s like, “look, I’m sorry I missed it.” Hen just tells him off. But he says, “What would you have me do differently?” And she says, “Believe them when they tell you that something is wrong.”

Which is definitely a problem all around the world. And not just here. But doctors are very dismissive, especially women in general.

Bex: Yeah. Yep. Yes. Medical misogyny is real. And I can imagine that medical misogyny for black women is even worse than it is. Mm-hmm. For white women.

Ellen: All right. We are going back to the Diaz house old where uh, Christopher is going through all of his stuff because he wants to give some of it to Charlie.

Yes. Um, because they don’t, he didn’t have a tv. Um, and they’re gonna give him a bunch of books and toys, so he’s got something to do, even though he looks like he’s about, well, he looks like he’s older than Chris.

Alice: He does look like he’s older than Chris. I do love that Chris is just like, no tv? He really [01:01:00] does need our help.

Bex: Yeah. So while Carla and Chris work on packing the donations, um, Ana comes in and calls Eddie away because she has something that she needs to talk to him about. And what she needs to talk to him about is that she looked up the GoFundMe pages. I’m just gonna call it GoFundMe ’cause that’s immediately where my brain is going.

Alice: Yeah. It’s just GoFundMe. They call it FundMe as if that’s hiding it at all.

Bex: Um, she was looking up the GoFundMe pages for Sheila and Charlie because she wanted to make a donation, maybe like spread the word to sort of boost so that other people could donate. Um, but she now thinks that there is something wrong with this woman.

And Eddie gets so defensive, he’s like, you haven’t even met her. And Ana’s like, no, but I found some stuff online and I think she lied to you.

Alice: At least Ana knows how to use Google. [01:02:00]

Bex: Well, she wasn’t the one who like locked all of the electronic devices in a Faraday cage after a coffee machine um, scared her. So.

Alice: Exactly.

Bex: So a little bit later, Carla has joined, um, Eddie and Ana in the kitchen as they go through the multiple GoFundMe pages that Ana has found for Sheila and Charlie. There are, there’s one for them with the surname Burns in El Paso. There’s one for them with the surname Young in Phoenix.

It’s the same kid, but different last name in different cities. And then they start reading the comments on the GoFundMe page. And this is what kind of clues Eddie into something that Ana is right, that there is something very wrong because the comments are, this woman is a fraud and a scammer don’t trust her.

Or she’s a con artist looking for money and attention. And then there’s one comment that catches his eye, which is, [01:03:00] “I think she’s making her kids sick.”

Alice: And then he slams the laptop shut. ’cause he is very dramatic.

Ellen: Yeah. And at the end of the scene,

Bex: He’s he’s a,

Ellen: he’s a dramatic bitch. Um, and before they cut away, um, you see like Ana’s hand, like on his shoulder, like she’s, uh, you know, comforting him kind of thing. It’s like,

Bex: she’s like, I’m sorry, your new girlfriend is crazy.

Ellen: I’m sorry you thought you were, you were helping this person. And they turned out to be, you know, a scammer.

Bex: So while Eddie’s getting his heart broken, Bobby’s doing the dishes.

Ellen: Back to the other dramatic bitches.

Bex: At the Bathena residence. Um, and I I do love that, that in the 9-1-1 universe, it is well established that if you cook, you don’t do the dishes. Yeah. Because this is the second time that it’s in this episode alone that somebody can’t bring, comes up with the, you don’t, you don’t need to clean or you shouldn’t be cleaning because you cooked.

This [01:04:00] time it’s Athena to Bobby. You cooked, you shouldn’t be doing the dishes. And Bobby’s like, eh, no, that’s okay. I’m trying to avoid you, so I’m gonna like hang out in the kitchen. You think I’m joking, but I’m not because Athena says, “how about we have a movie night,” and Bobby’s like, “ah, I think I’m just gonna go to bed.”

Alice: Yeah.

Bex: And now if like, Athena,

Ellen: now Athena is actually really suspicious.

Alice: Athena is like, I wanna get my freak on. And Bobby’s like, no thank you.

Bex: She asks if everything’s okay and Bobby says, “Yes, everything’s fine.” Um, Athena says “It doesn’t feel fine,” and she understands that Bobby has his meetings where he can talk, but she would also like it if he talked to her and Bobby’s like, yeah, I know, but it’s not the same. And I think’s like, “well, maybe I could come to your meetings like, you’ve got one tomorrow, right?”

And Bobby’s like, oh, uh, no.

Alice: Nope. Don’t have one tomorrow.

Bex: No.

Alice: Uh, you can come on Saturday, but not, not tomorrow. Don’t, because there’s no meeting [01:05:00] tomorrow. Don’t,

Bex: no, no meeting tomorrow.

Alice: There’re in fact very closed tomorrow. No helping alcoholics tomorrow.

Bex: He is. I, I do enjoy how badly Bobby lies. Like he’s just so obviously scrambling to, to cover up something and he doing a very bad job.

You don’t have to be like Athena’s. Like ultra suspicious to realize that something is going on right now. Mm-hmm. But he also thinks he’s doing a really good job of covering it up. ’cause she’s like, “okay, fine, I won’t, I won’t come to the meeting tomorrow. I’ll come to the one on Saturday.” He’s like, “great, good. Goodnight.”

And like, runs outta the kitchen. I hate this storyline, but I do enjoy watching Peter and Angela interact.

Alice: Yeah, same.

Bex: They they do, they do work together so well.

Ellen: Alright, jumping around again. Um, back to Hen and [01:06:00] she’s talking on the phone. She’s still at the hospital, but she tell, she’s talking on the phone to Karen and Karen’s obviously offered to come home and, you know, to be there.

And Hen’s like, “No, no, no, you stay there, I’ll call you when I have an update.” And Sydney is there still as well. And Hen’s like, “You don’t, you don’t have to stay.” Sydney’s like, “No, it’s your mom.” So. That’s nice that they’ve, you know, they started out, it’s like enemies to friends kind of thing

Bex: to love us.

No, no, this, no. Let’s not have another cheating scandal again.

Ellen: Scandals. But they, they started out so like, with so much animosity and now they’re like, you know, they’re, they’re besties now, so it’s fine. This surgeon arrives looking for Hen,

Bex: yeah. And here’s the, here’s the thing. He is outside the hospital. She’s sitting like out by the front doors and I know that the, there is like the trope of you are sitting waiting [01:07:00] for your loved one and the surgeon comes out to tell you that the surgery was a success or whatever. But normally when that happens, you are either in a waiting room or you’re sitting kind of in the hallway outside of surgical ward.

You are not outside the fucking hospital. Yeah,

Alice: yeah. Hen’s literally outside.

Bex: Has this surgeon been running all around the hospital trying to find Hen so she can give her the update?

Alice: Where’s the woman that yelled at us earlier? ’cause I need to find her.

Bex: Uh, but it was, it’s all good news. The surgery was a success. Toni is fine. Um, she’s gonna make a full recovery and Toni who is awake now, um, is grateful to the doctor, but she’s more grateful to Hen for saving her life. And she tells Hen that she’s not gonna be around forever. So she needs to say this now in case she doesn’t get a chance. And Hen’s like “Ma, that’s really morbid.”

She’s like, “just, just hear me out.” Um, she tells Hen [01:08:00] that this, that she knows that it’s a struggle for Hen to work and go to school and have a family, but it is worth it because people like Toni need doctors like Hen, so she wants Hen to promise her that she won’t give up the dream of going to medical school.

Ellen: Yeah. Hand promises she’ll do that,

Bex: which is always a really dicey thing to do in these kind of shows.

Alice: Anyway, moving on.

Bex: We’ll see how that goes.

Ellen: Like I did feel like they put a lot of emphasis on that, so, you know, I’m just side eyeing this one.

Alice: We don’t wanna spoil anything, but I’m, yeah.

Bex: But seriously, doctors and doctors and police and firefighters should never promise anything. Yeah. Literally, because the, like, it’s just, that’s just how it works. They promise something and it never works out. Yeah.

Alice: So, no.

Bex: Cool. So [01:09:00] next morning, I guess Buck and Chim walk into the station house and the engine bay is completely empty. There are no vehicles in there. Uh, so, which is important for a little bit later. Chim notes that, oh, the B shift must still be out on a call. Cool. Eddie is already there and he is already in his uniform. He got there, um, early because he couldn’t sleep. Sheila has been on his mind all night. Not like that.

Alice: Buck’s like, damn, boy, you early.

Uh, anyway. Yeah. So Eddie explains that, um, the kid’s not sick. Not really. And the mom’s been making him sick probably for years. And this is where they mention, like Chim mentions Munchausen’s by proxy. Was this, I was gonna look this up and totally forgot, when did the Gypsy Rose document, like, um, tele, tele thing come out?

Bex: Uh, [01:10:00] after this? But I’m pretty sure that every medical show that has ever existed has done a Munchausen’s by proxy episode. So it’s Well,

Alice: yeah, true.

Bex: Sort of well cemented in, um, the general audience’s consciousness of what Munchausen’s by proxy is.

Alice: The, um, the documentary about it had come out earlier than this.

Bex: Oh, it had? Okay.

Alice: Yeah.

2017 was the documentary I’m trying to, no, and the act was it, the act was 2019. So yes, Gypsy Rose was very, um, topical at the time, like not super early because it finished like two years before this episode came out. But like, everyone knew about it.

Ellen: Well, they don’t really like explain it in as many words as they might for something that, um, in this show, usually when people, when they, when they find some terminology that people aren’t gonna know, they usually spell it out pretty.

Alice: Exactly, yeah.

Ellen: [01:11:00] Anyway, they, he sort of explains, you know, how they’d been moving around and whatever. So like Buck’s like, “What, what is she poisoning him with?”

Bex: Yeah, funnily enough, Eddie goes, Eddie goes straight to poisoning as explaining why Charlie is sick and, Buck asks, “poisoning him with what?” Um, and then the show very helpfully flashes back to, yeah, Eddie has like a flashing neon sign.

Ellen: He has like a mind palace moment where he just like flashes right back. Um, he saw the eyedrops in the kitchen, apparently tetrahydrozaline, I can’t remember how he pronounced that. Anyway. Will it be the active ingredient?

Bex: Tetrahydrozaline?

Ellen: Thank you. It could be lethal if it’s ingested, but it doesn’t show up on a toxicology test. So, she must be dosing him just enough to keep him sick. So they jump in a car.

Alice: Yeah. So social services are coming here to [01:12:00] take a report. And they do have like Buck’s little exposition. “Why would she do that?” And Chim’s like, “Sometimes it’s to gain sympathy and Eddie’s like, “or, to make profit I found multiple fund me pages.” um, ’cause she’s conning people outta their money.

Bex: Funnily enough, I think that’s what insults Eddie the most. It’s not that she’s making the kids sick, it’s that she’s doing it for money.

Alice: Yeah.

Bex: And I kind of wonder if they had gone with a little bit more of a complicated storyline and gone, if she’s doing it like for the, the sort of the traditional Munchausen’s which is a mental illness where you are making someone sick in order to gain attention and, um, accolades and, um, whether he would be, would be as angry about that as he is about the fact that she’s just doing it to get money.

Alice: I mean, I think he still doesn’t like kids being hurt, but,

Bex: um, oh, 100%. But it just, [01:13:00] it’s very interesting that it’s like, oh, I’m. It’s the, the profit that he seems to be upset about. But before they can like go into it any further, he gets a call from what appears to be an unknown number because he sort of looks at his phone and sort of looks at Buck and goes like, who is calling me?

Like, Buck’s not gonna know. Just answer it dude.

Alice: No. Eddie’s just shocked that someone’s calling him that’s not Buck. He’s like, why is my phone ringing? Buck’s here standing in front of me? Who else calls me?

Bex: This also kind of, um, confirms that Eddie is older than Buck because he does actually answer the phone, whereas I and Buck would probably just be waiting for our phone to ring out and frantically googling the number to see if we can figure out who it is.

Alice: Um, oh my God, the, the amount of numbers I Google,

Ellen: yes, I do too.

Alice: I’ve had to answer the phone all this week. It’s been awful because I’ve had to speak to the vet every day and it’s just,

Bex: I’m sorry,

Alice: the horror.

Bex: Eddie apparently doesn’t have phone phobia, so he answers the call and

Alice: he just [01:14:00] answers.

Bex: It’s Charlie. I don’t know how,

Alice: how did Charlie get Eddie’s number?

Bex: I dunno, dunno. Because the thing is, he’s not even calling from like a mobile phone. He’s calling from a landline. Yeah. So you can’t even say that. I’m guessing Eddie might have written it down. It doesn’t matter. It’s for the drama. For the drama that, um, Sheila is on the floor in the living room, seizing, choking with an empty bowl strategically placed next to her.

And Charlie tells Eddie, I think I did a bad thing.

Ellen: Oh no.

Alice: Yeah, he full on goes, um, oh my God. I blanked on his name. Hang on, give me a second to, okay. Yeah, he full on Chris Isaacs. He did a bad, bad thing.

Ellen: Oh.

Bex: Oh, that’s where you were going with that. Oh my god. Okay.

Ellen: Okay. But before we can find out what the bad thing was that he did,

Bex: can I just [01:15:00] mention before we move on that the bowl that is strategically placed next to her is empty. Oh, she ate the entire thing. Yeah. It’s cl it’s, you would assume that because the bowl is there, it’s meant to be like she was eating something and she immediately got sick and so she like dropped the bowl and fell down. But there’s no food on the floor. The bowl is clean.

Alice: No, she, she ate the entire thing and then was just like, oh, I need to drop this bowl. Yeah. Um, but yes, like this is very much Gypsy Rose, like very, very like kid has hit back at the abusive mother.

Bex: Yeah. But we are not gonna find out what happens next. We have to go back to, um, Athena and her very messy ex-husband. Who she has once again called

Ellen: Athena is the messy one right now.

Bex: Oh, both of them messy.

Alice: Yeah, Athena is the messy one.

Bex: Um, we, we jump into mid-conversation where Michael is like arriving home and all we hear him say is, “Oh, come on. You followed him?” And we cut [01:16:00] Athena in her car. Who yes, she um, she did follow Bobby.

Ellen: Of course she did

Bex: to his meeting that he didn’t have today. ’cause there was no meeting today.

Alice: There was no meeting

Bex: ’cause she lied about it.

Alice: No alcoholics were getting help. Um, except that they are because he’s at the meeting.

Ellen: Yeah.

Bex: And so Michael says “You think that he’s still hiding something?” And then Athena notices who Bobby is talking to. ’cause everybody is leaving the meeting. But there is a woman sort of standing in front of Bobby and she’s like very obviously waiting for him or talking to him. Um, and Athena recognizes her. But before we,

Alice: I didn’t, so I’m glad that Athena did.

Bex: No, but before we can find out who the woman is, because Athena would obviously tell Michael, um, Bobby, who’s been sort of waving goodbye to everybody looks over and sees Athena’s car and sees Athena sitting in the car.

Alice: Is Athena not a cop? Shouldn’t she know, be able to [01:17:00] do stakeouts better than this? Like, that was all I could, that was like Athena, you should, like, why are you parked in direct view? Not in a disguise. Like literally just like windows down leaning out the window, like waving at Bobby and then it’s like, oh shit, he saw me

Bex: like she’s in a bright red car. I mean, that is. It’s not stealthy at all.

Alice: No. And then she’s like, it’s probably her own personal car. And Bobby’s like, oh, why is my wife’s car here?

Bex: And she’s completely shocked when Bobby notices her. She’s like, “oh, he spotted me. Gotta go.” Like, ma’am,

Alice: you’re two meters away from him. Of course he noticed you. Like Jesus Christ. I don’t know how she solves any crime.

Bex: I’m pretty sure Romero does all the work for her and she just takes all the credit,

Alice: clearly.

Ellen: Um, she just barrels in there and takes the bad guys down. No stealth.

Bex: But before we can get to Bobby, ripping her a new one for following him to, um, his meeting, we are gonna go back to the apartments where, um, Bobby’s car comes screeching around the [01:18:00] corner.

Like his fire captain’s car,

Alice: not his civic car because he took that to the meeting.

Bex: Yeah, his, his fire, his fire captain’s car, um, comes screeching around the corner

Alice: also, hang on, if they’re about to start their shift, but B shift already, where, why is it?

Bex: Nope, don’t think about it. Don’t think about it.

Alice: Why is Bobby in a meeting?

Bex: Don’t think about it.

Alice: Go to work!

Ellen: His meeting had just finished. He was probably on his way to work when he spied Athena, but

Bex: No, but these guys do 24 hour shifts, so their shifts starts at like 6:00 AM. How early is this fucking meeting?

Ellen: Okay, just start. They need help. Don’t, don’t, don’t think about it.

Alice: Don’t think about it. Anyway, so since Bobby’s at the weird time, weirdly timed meeting, they’ve stolen his fire captain’s car because all remember Yes, the B shift had taken all the engines that like the engine and the fire truck there was, which there was nothing left.

Bex: They then explained that because the 1 33 have, I’m assuming that Eddie has told Charlie or somebody has called. Um, [01:19:00] actually it says Eddie has called 9-1-1, um, on a poss.

Alice: I don’t think he even needed to call like they were in the firehouse. He probably just radioed it in.

Bex: Yeah. So he’s, he’s called in the 1 33 have responded. Captain Mehta makes a very snarky comment like, “oh, Buckley, you got promoted to captain when I wasn’t looking?”

When he sees the two of them jumping out of the vehicle. Um, but Buck does not have time.

Alice: He’s like, it’s the only vehicle available and just like runs out the but first, oh my God. The, the visceral reaction.

Bex: Yes. I had when when he gets out in that shirt,

Alice: gets out in that shirt on that street. Yep. Like my whole body, like flinched. I was like, oh God. Oh no.

Bex: Oh my God,

Alice: it’s happening.

Bex: Yep.

Ellen: Oh, I had no reaction whatsoever.

Alice: Yeah. Funny, that. Um, but yeah, fuck it. Like I, I like, I couldn’t believe how physical my body reacted to just seeing him out on that street in that shirt. Yeah. Um, anyway, yeah, so they break down the door ’cause [01:20:00] apparently Charlie doesn’t know how to use door knobs.

Bex: Right? Um, why couldn’t they have just like, knocked and waited for Charlie to come let them in? Or like Eddie would’ve been on the phone like, Charlie, we here open the fucking door. No, they’re gonna use the bat, the, the swinging battering ram,

Alice: like, generally, so I’ve had to call the paramedics a couple times. Generally they’ll say, Hey, if you can unlock the door, unlock the, like, Charlie’s just been chilling watching his, like watching her, his dying mother. Oh. She, he’s literally been standing there, just unlock and open the door while waiting. He’s like, Hey, what the fuck are you doing, Charlie? So, yeah, Charlie was never taught how to use door knobs.

Bex: He’s pretty much standing in the exact same spot he was when he called Eddie, just watching his mother die on the, the ground in front of him.

Alice: Um, yeah, he’s got, he’s made himself popcorn. Um, it’s, yeah, it’s really weird.

Bex: Um, so Buck, Mehta and the 1 33 paramedics and Eddie burst in, um. Eddie immediately like hustles Charlie out of the way so [01:21:00] that the, the, the paramedics and Mehta and can work and Mehta and Buck can sort of do their exposition, explain what’s going on.

Um, and we find out that the Charlie has dosed his mother’s food with like a massive dose of eye drops.

Alice: Yeah. Like he’s still holding a bottle of eye drops as well.

Bex: Yeah. Eddie has to pry it out of his hand,

Alice: Was he going to put it his popcorn? Who knows? Uh, maybe he’s used to the taste. Um, but Charlie explains that like “She always puts drops in my food. She thinks I don’t see her, but I do. I just wanted to see what happened if, what would happen if I gave them to her.” And Eddie’s like, “Oh, that’s okay. You didn’t mean to hurt her.” And Charlie’s like, yes,

Ellen: totally didn’t mean to hurt her.

Alice: He he totally did. Um, and Buck’s like, “oh yeah, by the way, the kid needs treatment too, because same kind of poisoning, but smaller doses. But for a really long time.” Um, yeah. How much, how many eyedrop bottles did he put in her food?

Bex: It looks like it was just [01:22:00] one.

Ellen: Yeah,

Alice: just because like if it was just, oh, she puts a couple drops in my food. I wanted to see what happened if I gave it to her, like, then she’d just get sick. But instead, like, he’s clearly put the entire bottle of eye drops to have her seize and die.

Bex: Like, yeah. I don’t, don’t think about it. It, it, medically it doesn’t make sense. Don’t think about it.

Alice: Yeah. I think Charlie’s just evil.

Bex: Oh boy. That’s a whole nother storyline. So, um, they’ve apparently left Chim back at the firehouse because he called,

Ellen: someone’s gotta do the work.

Bex: He’s called Maddie to “oh my God, you won’t believe what just happened this morning.” And he’s filling her in on, um, the story. Um, she’s walking around with an asleep Jee. She finally got Jee to go to sleep.

Maddie is [01:23:00] like kind of completely checked out. She’s like, she’s obviously so exhausted. She’s just, her, her tone is just completely monotone. She’s giving kind of like one or two word answers. Um, when Chim is talking and then Chim in his like exuberance to tell her about the story, says, um, you know, that he’s glad that the woman fell through the balcony because the kid will be safe far away from her.

Because, you know, “I guess some people just aren’t meant to be parents.” And Maddie in the depth of her sleep deprivation and frustration takes that 100% personally. And you can just see her face drop and her lip starts quivering and her eyes well up in tears.

Ellen: Oh,

Alice: poor Maddie,

Bex: Chim, of course, is completely oblivious to this and just says, “Anyway, I just wanted to hear your voice and tell you guys how much I love you. Um, oh wait, Hen just showed up. [01:24:00] I wanna talk to her about her mom. Can I call you later?” And Maddie’s just like very flatly. “Yeah, we are good here. Nothing to worry about.” And

Alice: Guys, I think there’s something to worry about,

Bex: there’s very much something to worry about here. Bobby also has something to worry about because he is,

Ellen: oh, he’s so mad.

Bex: Storming down the footpath to, towards his wife looking angrier than I’ve ever seen him. Thankfully Athena has got out of the car.

Ellen: I don’t think we’ve seen him this angry ever before.

Bex: I think maybe when he slammed Buck against the wall, when Buck snuck into, um, his little book of names. He was pretty angry then.

Ellen: Yeah. Yeah, that’s right.

Alice: Oh, he was also angry at the, um. Oh no, I think that was season that was before that as well, when the ceiling collapsed.

Bex: Oh yeah. He was

Ellen: Yeah, he was angry with that,

Alice: but I think that was before Buck snuck into the little book of names. Yeah. I don’t think he’s been this angry since he’s been married to Athena.

Bex: Yeah. I don’t think Athena has seen him this angry.

Ellen: No.

Bex: And we, as [01:25:00] the audience finally get an explanation for the woman that Athena recognized. It’s, remember that, that car crash that Athena referenced earlier in the episode? Um, yeah. It’s that woman. It’s the woman that was driving drunk the wrong way along the freeway and caused a massive pilot.

That’s her.

Alice: Mm-hmm. Yeah. That’s apparently pretty much what Athena says too, as if Bobby didn’t know who she was. Like, she’s like, “That’s Rachel Hawkerson, the drunk driver from the pile up. You know, the one that was driving drunk in the, and caused the pile up. Whose name’s Rachel. That’s her.”

Bex: Apparently Bobby is sponsoring her. Because she’s having a hard time finding someone to talk to who can actually relate what she relate to, what she went through.

Ellen: And apparently when he, like she fell off the wagon and when he went to help her, um, the bottle of bourbon spilled on him. And that’s why his shirt smelled like bourbon. And then Athena’s not cross about [01:26:00] that. She’s just cross like that he didn’t tell her what was going on and lied. Lied to her.

Bex: And Bobby’s like, yeah, it’s really hard when your spouse keeps things from you, isn’t it?

Ellen: Oh,

Bex: ask me how I know.

Ellen: So snarky

Bex: and Athena’s like, “Wait, are you keeping this a secret on purpose? Like to punish me?” Bobby’s like, “no. Yes, maybe. I don’t know.”

Ellen: He literally says that,

Bex: I didn’t think it’s like, “I didn’t think I needed to tell you all about it. You don’t tell me about half the decisions you make,” and Athena’s like, “like what?” And Bobby like, gets up, starts counting on offers in his fingers. “Well, let’s see.”

Alice: He gets, you know, the notebook that he threw away when after his first, he gets that back out and it starts flicks through the pages,

Bex: which the such highlights include “Going back to work without talking to me, stopping seeing Dr. Sanford without talking to me, being offered [01:27:00] retirement and not taking it without talking to me.”

Athena’s like, “I didn’t think I needed to ask you for permission.” And Bobby’s like, “you don’t have to ask me for permission, but it would be nice if I was like a factor or a consideration for you making those decisions. You just, it doesn’t even cross your mind to include me in those conversations. You we’re supposed to be partners, but the truth is you don’t want a partner. You don’t want a partner on the streets, you don’t want a partner in the sheets.”

Alice: Oh, it’s weird that he used that exact phrase.

Ellen: Yeah, he should have said that,

Alice: but yeah, I definitely heard that.

Ellen: He definitely should have said that.

Alice: Um,

Ellen: oh, but she’s used to doing things on her own and “That’s who I am. And you knew that when you married me.” And Bobby’s like, “Well, I thought that eventually you would start to trust me.” Um, uh, blah, blah. They have a bit more of an argument and then they decide that Bobby says that “We are not partners because that’s how you want it,” and [01:28:00] storms off.

Alice: Mom and Dad are fighting.

Ellen: Yeah. Don’t like to see Mom and Dad fight.

Alice: You don’t like when mom and dad are fighting? No,

Bex: they do it so well though, I will say

Alice: Oh they do.

Bex: Like this, this was a very, very well written, well acted scene.

Alice: Oh yeah. The last part of this episode is great.

Ellen: It’s, I don’t know, he still should have said this in the sheets comment.

Alice: No, he definitely did. I definitely heard. Yeah. Yeah.

Bex: Okay. But who cares about that? ’cause now we’ve got this scene.

Ellen: Oh no, we’re up to the scene.

Alice: Are we ready for this scene?

Bex: Well, we have to be ’cause we’re here. Um, so we are going back to the, uh, Royal Point apart, Regal Points Apartments where they have put Charlie and Sheila under gurney’s and they’re loading them up into separate ambulances.

They’re sending them to separate hospitals. Charlie is a little [01:29:00] bit worried about the fact that his mother is, um, wondering whether he’s going to see her. And Eddie’s like, “no, no, no. She’s going to a different hospital. You’re going in this ride.”

Alice: Yeah. Eddie explains that she’s a little more sick, so she has to go to a different hospital.

Bex: There’s also the, the point that she now has an active like CPS case out on her and she’s not gonna be allowed anywhere near you for the foreseeable future.

Alice: Yeah. Mm. Um, but yeah, Sheila is fully conscious and screaming in another ambulance.

Bex: So they slam the, they slam the doors on her, cutting off her screams. Both ambulances start to pull out. And then the camera cameraman is extremely excited about this ’cause he starts spinning around and around and around in circles,

Alice: which is like, oh, and the, like, I, the,

Bex: here’s the thing. This is, it’s, it’s very dramatic. I think it fits well with the drama of what’s about to happen, but it telegraphs the drama so much because they have never, ever used this kind of [01:30:00] shooting style before, and so you’re like, oh my God, like we’re spinning.

We’re getting a 360 view of everything that’s happening in the streets. Why are we suddenly getting this, this particular, like, what is gonna happen? This is so different. This is so new. What’s going to happen? I think it would’ve been more impressive and more affecting if they’d just done a normal like shoot to camera and then have the next part happen

Ellen: no, I didn’t, I didn’t notice that anything was different.

Alice: I really liked, yeah, I really liked the way that it’s done because it does, as I said, like I, it’s an actual vis like visceral, visceral reaction that I have. Like as soon as it starts spinning, like,

Bex: yeah, now, but how many times have you watched this scene?

Alice: But the first time I saw it, I did not ping. Like, oh, something’s about like, and I knew about this scene, like this scene was what got me into the show. I’d seen it on Twitter, like all over Twitter when it happened. Um, and I still didn’t ping because I was like, I was half watching. Like it’s a network show. Yes, it’s the [01:31:00] second last episode.

Ellen: It’s kind of the ending scene of the, of the episode. You just not really paying much attention.

Alice: It’s literally the end of the episode. And so I was like half watching, um, like Mom and Dad just had a fight. Maddie’s clearly not doing well. Um, and so when the camera started spin, it did not twig me at all. Like it was, I was still just like, holy shit, this is like, this is the episode.

Bex: I don’t know. For me, as soon as the camera started spinning, I’m like, oh wait, this is different. Something is about to happen. Something big is about to happen. Um, and so. What happens is the ambulances drive off and Eddie is berating himself for letting this situation escalate the way he did. He’s like, I should have gotten here sooner. Buck is trying to console him by telling him that that kid is just lucky that he met you.

Mehta wants to know if Eddie wants to go with Charlie to the hospital, but before Eddie can answer, there’s the sound of a gunshot.

Alice: Well, he starts [01:32:00] answering. He goes, “Yeah, that’d be…”

Bex: A bullet hole immediately appears on his right shoulder from the, the front of his right shoulder from his chest, and then we cut to Buck who blinks. And his face is spattered in blood.

Ellen: Yeah, he gets the blood splatter. It’s the first five minutes of Supernatural, but it’s the end of the episode.

Bex: And then everything slows down. Eddie kind of looks down, looks back up at Buck and then collapses and we cut to the sniper who’s chambering another round in his rifle.

Buck is absolutely frozen.

Alice: Buck has not moved.

Bex: Shock yeah, um, Eddie is now fully collapsed on the ground. Mehta, thankfully is not frozen in shock. He is doing the captain shit. He’s checking to make sure that all of his [01:33:00] crew are safe, um, and that he notices that Buckley is just standing there in the middle of the road while there’s an active shooter, like a fucking idiot.

And he knows that Bobby’s gonna have his guts for garters if anything happens to Buck. So immediately runs for Buck and none too soon because we see Buck through the crosshairs of the sniper rifle and Mehta gets to him and pushes him down behind the truck just as the sniper fires again, and then time speeds back up.

Alice: Yeah. Thank you Mehta for saving our boy Buck.

Ellen: Yeah. Although the bill, the bullet pings off the side of the truck, so it may not have, it wouldn’t have hit, got him anyway, but still, um, the,

Bex: yeah, let’s not, let’s not think about that too hard, shall we? Um,

Alice: anyway, Mehta saves the day. Thank you. Mehta.

Bex: Yes. Um, time speeds up. Everyone is freaking out. The 1 33 are running around both for cover.

Alice: They’re getting cover, they’re on the radio going shots fired. Shots [01:34:00] fired.

Bex: They’re looking for the active shooter as well because they need to know where the shots are coming from so they know which angle to hide from.

Mehta is literally pinning Buck to the ground with his body, like hand on his head, holding him down probably because he knows Buck, because he’s dealt with Buck at the, um, hand sanitizer factory and he knows what Buck is capable of doing and he is like, fuck this, you are not going out there while there’s an active shooter.

Um. Meanwhile, Eddie is now lying in a pool of his own blood and you can see his eyes are locked on Buck and his hand just starts to reach across the concrete and then it twitches and then his eyes close.

Ellen: This is the longest scene. This just lingers like on Buck. It’s,

Alice: and then Buck, just like Buck has, has still not moved. He’s just staring at Eddie. His face, like his mouth’s [01:35:00] still open, he’s still covered in blood, like he has not moved a muscle. Like Mehta has obviously pinned him to the ground, but he has not moved.

Bex: And the show is very, very intentional about it’s cut to Buck, cut to Eddie, cut to Buck, cut to Eddie, cut to Buck. Eddie falls unconscious. Cut to Buck. Episode ends.

Alice: Eddie’s blood is in Buck’s mouth.

Ellen: I’ll tell you what that um, I’m glad that I. And was binging this particular couple of,

Bex: so you could go straight onto the next one?

Ellen: I could go straight on because I was just sitting going, oh my God. And, uh, my sister-in-law who I was watching with goes, we go, we’re watching the next one, right?

And I’m like, yeah, you can’t just leave it there.

Alice: It’s like 3:00 AM You’ve got a gin, like your hands are shaking like your basically next episode.

Ellen: Yeah. I’m like, okay.

Alice: But oh my God. Oh my God. The way that it’s filmed, the way that it’s, his blood is in his mouth.

Bex: Yeah. Canonically [01:36:00] Buck has tasted Eddie’s blood

Alice: before he even tasted his…

Bex: where’s that sniper? Oh no wait. Wrong show.

Ellen: I’m sure there are some Vampire Au out there, right?

Bex: It’s a perfect setup for it. Obvious, honestly.

Alice: It really is.

Bex: But yeah, the way like, mm.

Ellen: But it just came. It was, it’s so good because it just came out of the blue. Like obviously none of them were expecting it, but the audience was like, I was not expecting this to happen. Like I’m just watching the end of the episode and all of a sudden, bang.

Bex: The great thing about this episode, like I hate the individual storylines, like the Bridezilla’s like, fuck off. I do not care about you. I could, I Hen’s storyline, nah, but this, the episode is paced so well that by the time you get up to this scene with the [01:37:00] conclusion of Charlie’s, it doesn’t, you’re not sitting there going, oh, it’s like 42 minutes.

This is the end of the episode. I could honestly have believed that the episode needed to keep going, that we were only up to like act two and there was a whole nother act three that I was still waiting for, but then it goes cut to black and you’re like, okay, cool commercial, and then end credits roll and you’re like.

Wait. Yeah, that’s the end of the episode. No, you, you, you need to tell me what’s gonna happen next.

Ellen: Yeah.

Bex: Yeah. The pacing of the episode was excellent to set you up for that absolute shock of,

Alice: because it’s interesting because it’s, it’s sort of almost medium stakes throughout the whole episode. So like, we have, like it’s, we know that it’s building to something, but we’re like, oh, it’s the second last episode.

Like it won’t happen till next week. So like, we are building like Hen’s. Mom obviously like ends up in hospital and it’s like, oh shit. Like, is she okay? [01:38:00] Okay. She’s okay. Then we are building to the Athena thing and we’re just like, oh shit. Like, what’s going on with Bobby and Athena?

And then that like comes to a head and we’re like, oh shit. Like, this is gonna be bad next week. And then we have Maddie who’s losing it. We’re just like, oh shit. Like, what’s happening next week with Maddie? And then the shooting happens and it’s like, oh shit Was not expecting that. Like,

Bex: but even with like the Bobby and the Athena stuff, I was expecting that to be resolved this episode. ’cause I did not realize that we were already, at the end of the episode, I was thinking, okay, we’re gonna come back after commercial and we’re gonna like finish. Like there is still gonna be more to this episode. And there was no more to this episode.

Alice: Yeah.

Ellen: I, I wasn’t expecting anything because honestly, by the time we got to here, I’d had quite a few gins and I was like, oh, okay. And then we’re like, okay, there’s only one more episode to go in the season. Like really? That’s it? So yeah, I was, I was shocked.

Bex: I was, my flabbers were gasted.

Ellen: They were [01:39:00] indeed, yes.

Alice: Um, I still remember when this episode aired. Like it was all over Twitter.

Ellen: I bet. Yeah.

Alice: This is what like got, like, this is what made me pay attention to the show. And I think I’ve said before, I knew about Lone Star because I knew about the, like the Rob Lowe firefighter show. I didn’t realize that this was a different one.

Ellen: Yeah.

Alice: And so it took me a while to work out what the fuck show it was. Um, and then when I like did the reading on it, I was like, okay, I’m not watching until it becomes canon because I’ve, I’ve, I’ve been through this before, like I’ve seen this film before and I didn’t like the ending.

Ellen: Mm-hmm. Literally.

Alice: Thanks Supernatural. Who by the way, it’s their 20th birthday. Happy birthday Supernatural. Thanks for ruining our lives.

Ellen: Hey, it’s brought me a lot of friends.

Bex: Without Supernatural, we would not be here.

Ellen: That’s right.

Alice: I know. I’m so grateful to Supernatural.

Bex: So it both ruined our lives and brought immense joy [01:40:00] to our lives.

Ellen: That’s right.

Alice: That’s it. Um, but yes, so once I worked out that this was not the Rob Low show,

Bex: thank God.

Alice: Um, that was a different one. Then I just like kept up with it via Twitter until I actually like started watching it in season eight. No season seven. But yeah, like, you mean this, this mo it’s so like, ah, ah.

Bex: Meanwhile I had no idea it this was happening. It’s because I didn’t have any spoilers for this at all.

Oh. Far out.

Ellen: I’d heard about this scene. Like I knew that it happened, but I didn’t know that it happened now,

Alice: I mean, I’m, yeah, I didn’t know when it happened.

Ellen: The further on we go in this, in the, in the actual show, um, the more likely that the things I’ve heard about are going to end up happening soon, I guess. Yeah. Because there’s less episodes in which any of it can happen. But yeah, I wasn’t expecting this to happen now, so [01:41:00]

Alice: No, I didn’t think it was until later, but yeah. It is not later. It is now. Eddie is bleeding out.

Ellen: Yeah. Okay. So what is

Alice: much like Chim was

Ellen: on the next week?

Bex: Next week Athena, Bobby and the 118 are on high alert when a sniper targets members of the LAFD. Um, and Maddie makes a decision.

Alice: Yeah. Maddie is also there.

Ellen: No mention of Athena and Bobby in the

Bex: Oh, they’re on high alert where a sniper is targeting members of the LAFD.

Ellen: Okay. They have to forget their differences. Yep. That’s it for little, for a little bit.

Bex: They have to, to put their, their marital spat aside so that Athena can do some like badass, um, gun forensics.

Ellen: That’s right.

Bex: Unsurprisingly, the triggers for next week’s episode include gun violence and threats of gun violence. Um, gore in the form of lots and lots of blood, some of which Buck has ingested, um, injury of a major character via a gunshot.

Alice: It’s in his mouth!

Bex: And postpartum depression.

Alice: His blood is in his mouth. [01:42:00] I will never be normal about this.

Bex: It’s, it’s nuts.

Ellen: It’s gross.

Bex: The thing, like, I don’t wanna overanalyze that scene because it’s, it’s absolutely amazing. Um, and the implications of it are absolutely amazing. But I, like, I don’t, I wonder whose decision it was like, yeah, Oliver, we are, we’re just gonna like, cover your face in blood.

I don’t think it makes sense from the, like, the trajectory of the bullet and the fact that,

Alice: oh, it makes no sense. Just don’t think about it. That’s fine.

Bex: I know ’cause like Ryan is shorter than Oliver of us, so I don’t know how the blood was spattering up into Oliver’s face and the Yeah, and the

Alice: gun was coming from above, like, not

Bex: so bullet was angling downwards. So the blood should be sort of on his stomach, which means he would’ve had to have taken off his shirt, which, oh, that would’ve been a shame. But no, they’ve just, you know, they’ve gone, oh no, actually we want, um, we want Eddie’s blood all over your face. So just like, stand still while we [01:43:00] spray some blood on you.

Alice: Eddie’s bodily fluids are just automatically attracted to Buck. It just magnetized to his face.

Ellen: Oh God. We’re getting into like A/B/O territory here.

Bex: But it’s just, who decided that? Yeah, that’s a totally normal thing to have. You know, one guy’s blood sprayed all over another guy’s mouth, like

Ellen: Oh yeah.

Alice: Like they were definitely trying to do it for the cinematic aspect, but it just came off real fucking gay.

Bex: Maybe like, like this is we, we have established that this, like Andrew Myers was responsible for writing this episode and we have said that like Andrew Myers is kinda like the Bobo of 9-1-1. So maybe that was him to sort of like, he wrote that into, specifically into this storyline and into this script as his way of sort of, yeah, advancing the Buddie agenda.

Alice: That’s it. Like Eddie’s [01:44:00] blood is all over Buck, including in his mouth.

Bex: Buck knows what he tastes like.

Ellen: Thank you Andrew Myers.

Bex: Of course. I have absolutely no no evidence to back this up. I’m just caking the makeup on at this point.

Alice: Yep. (hums circus music)

Ellen: All right. Do we have any more clowning about this episode to mention, or shall we

Bex: Oh, we could probably clown for longer, but I think we’re gonna save it all for next week. Yeah. ’cause we are gonna be doing like Highwire.

Alice: Oh. There will be screaming, like, it’ll be like frame by frame analysis next week.

Ellen: Yeah. Um, unfortunately we gonna have,

Bex: unfortunately we are not gonna record for another three weeks, so y’all are just gonna have

Ellen: Yeah, I was gonna say we we’re about to have a little break,

Alice: just like poor Chim was lying.

Ellen: Yeah. Oh [01:45:00] God. Oh no.

Alice: on the sidewalk for three weeks

Ellen: now Eddie will be lying in a pool of blood. Yeah. For several weeks. Oh, no, I, I’ve done it again. I don’t believe it. This is perfect.

Bex: Oh my God.

Ellen: Oh, poor Eddie.

Bex: This was not planned by the way, but it’s just, it’s so perfect. No, I’m just so you can,

Ellen: I’m going away next week for like, multiple weekends, so it’s gonna be like,

Alice: um, don’t forget if you have any feedback about season four, um, please, while Eddie is bleeding out, um, yeah. Let us know.

Ellen: Take, take this time to think about what you thought of this season and let us know about it. Poor Eddie. Okay. Um, uh, you can like send your feedback to our email, which is contact@thatweewooshow.com or you can, um, DM it to us on social media [01:46:00] or you can leave comments about this episode.

Let us know how thick your clown makeup is. Tell us all about the pacing, all that stuff. Like I

Bex: Let us know what you think Eddie’s blood tastes like.

Ellen: Oh God.

Alice: Pennies.

Bex: I’m sorry. I’ll be quiet now.

Ellen: No, I just got derailed. Thinking about what blood tastes like, um,

Bex: if you have read any Vampire Aus that have kicked off from this episode, from Buck drinking Eddie’s blood, and Eddie secretly being a vampire, please drop the wrecks. Yeah. Um, either in the podcasting platform that you’re listening to us from or jump into our social media .

Ellen: Actually that was one thing that we were asking for, uh, previously. Like if you have any fic recs in general that don’t spoil, uh, season five onwards, then yeah, let us know.

Bex: So please Vampire Aus or not. Please drop us. Your favorite buddy Fix. Um. Try and make sure that they don’t spoil season five and season six. [01:47:00] However, I will be reading any recommendations that you give us to kind of screen it for Ellen, just to make sure that

Ellen: yeah, you can pass them on to me.

Bex: Little details, um, slip through. Um, and we will see if we can convince Ellen to do a Mixtape Book Club Podcast Buddie Edition. Yes.

Alice: Yeah.

Ellen: Uh, make sure that you go to thatweewooshow.com and you can find all the information about ways to subscribe and ways to get in contact with us there.

Uh, thank you for listening and we will talk to you next time, which will probably be in probably two weeks at least. We’ll talk to you next time about episode 14, the season finale called “Survivors”. See you then.

Bex: Bye

Alice: Bye.

Ellen: 9-1-1 is a fictional show, but many of the situations portrayed happen in the real world too. If any of the topics we’ve discussed in this episode have affected you, please know you are not alone. You can call or text numbers in your country for help. Just Google crisis support in your location to find out the number. [01:48:00]

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[outtake]

Bex: Oh.

Ellen: You should see what the AI (transcription) does with Maddie.

Bex: Do you want notes at all? Because the choices,

Alice: We love you Bex! Love you Bex

Bex: the choices are, you get perfectly spelled perfectly like the name’s done perfectly or you don’t get notes in time for the episode. You can choose. I’m happy to go back and make sure I spell her name correctly every single time. It’s just gonna take me like two weeks to get the notes done.

Ellen: No, you do a wonderful job. Thank you.

Alice: Because you guys ha can’t actually see the notes. Um, Bex, has spelt Maddie multiple different ways in the the notes just in this part. And so I just typed in the [01:49:00] notes. I like the multiple spellings of Maddie happening here. And so Bex got down to that point in the notes. I was just like, fuck off.

Bex: I’m revoking your access to edit the notes.

Alice: Like either edit them for good or don’t edit them. There you go.

Ellen: Oh, that’s better.

Bex: Um, right before I was so rudely interrupted…


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