Welcome to That Weewoo Show: a podcast where Ellen, Bex, and Alice watch and discuss every episode of ABC’s TV show, 9-1-1.
In this episode we discuss episode 1 of the fifth season of 9-1-1, titled “Panic”.
A series of ransomware threats lead to an overabundance of emergencies for the 118. Athena must revisit her traumatic attack as the case goes to trial. Eddie suffers a health scare. Maddie’s postpartum depression worsens.
Content warnings for episode 5.01:
abuse of power, cops, car accident, drowning threat, flashbacks to assault, heart attack, panic attack, postpartum depression, PTSD, rapist at large, gore
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Episode Transcript
Maddie: [00:00:00] 9-1-1. What’s your emergency?
Ellen: Welcome back to That WeeWoo Show, a podcast where we watch and discuss episodes of the ABC show, 9-1-1. I’m Ellen.
Alice: I’m Alice,
Bex: and I’m Bex.
Ellen: And welcome to season five. Here we are in season five, hooray we made it! Thank you to everybody who has been listening to our episodes so far and has commented.
Uh, we see your comments and we love you, especially Kiera. Thank you. Uh, if and if you,
Bex: your paycheck is in the mail,
Ellen: don’t say that. Um, yes, we, we really appreciate everyone who’s been, um. Commenting and sharing our social media posts. Thank you. Um, [00:01:00] before we get into this episode, um, what are, what, what are we gonna say what happened in the last season or?
Alice: All right. Last season on 9-1-1, Maddie was pregnant. COVID happened. A dam broke. Chim delivered a baby underground, May joined dispatch, Buck pranked Eddie with a smart home. A woman died during a block party after being spooked by a corgi in a locked gate mystery, Buck began then was jinxed.
Ravi was introduced. Bobby and Michael became armchair telescope detectives. Eddie hooked up with Ana and Buck reunited with my beloved Taylor Kelly. Albert almost died in a freeway pile up while his niece was born. Hen and Karen broke some laws after becoming foster parents, but having to allow the kid to be reunited with her birth mother, Sue was hit by a car and we had a mini Josh Begins, the gang found treasure and Eddie got sh*t.
Ellen: Whew,
Bex: that’s a lot.
Alice: And that’s what you missed on 9-1-1.
Bex: This week we are [00:02:00] going to discuss the season premiere, a season five premiere called “Panic”. And I am very disappointed that that was not Panic exclamation point ’cause I had so many Panic in the Disco style puns lined up for this episode.
Ellen: Oh, it’s just “Panic”
Bex: and I’m not gonna be able to use any of them.
Ellen: Okay.
Bex: Um, I’m, I’m, I’m absolutely bereft. Um, so “Panic” aired for the first time in September 20th in 2021, and the official summary that the network released tells us in this episode that a series of ransomware threats leads to an overabundance of emergencies for the 118, including a medevac helicopter crash at the hospital, which was like the last 10 seconds of the episode.
And an air traffic control tower system failure. Which wasn’t actually their emergency, but, okay. Meanwhile, Athena must revisit her traumatic attack when the case of the realtor [00:03:00] serial rapist goes to trial, Eddie suffers a health scare and Maddie’s postpartum depression worsens.
Alice: That was longer than the whole season four wrap up.
Bex: Pretty much. Um, and triggers for anybody who has not seen the episode yet, we have abuse of power, our generic “cops”, uh, a car accident, a drowning threat, flashbacks to assault, but don’t think that’s entirely accurate. Um, heart attack, panic attack, postpartum depression, PTSD and rapist at large. Also, I’m gonna add in a gore warning there as well.
Ellen: Oh yeah, that surprised me. But we’ll get there.
Bex: We will
Ellen: Fair warning upfront, uh, we didn’t all love this episode. It’s like, okay, there are parts of it that are really, um, exciting and kind of [00:04:00] well done. And then there are other parts that are just like, oh, really? But I mean, it was written, the, the writers were Tim Minear and Juan Carlos Coto, who we know that we like their episodes.
So the, the exciting parts of the episode are, are actually exciting for that reason.
Bex: Look upfront, I’m not gonna say that the, it wasn’t that the episode was badly written. It wasn’t necessarily that the episode was badly acted. I have problems with what was written, like the actual storylines is what I have issues with, not the writing.
Ellen: Yeah.
Bex: But I can, um, share my thoughts at the end of the episode. I think once we’ve gone through all of it.
Ellen: Well, at the start I was just so excited because it’s been a few weeks since we’ve actually watched any, uh, of the show because we’ve been doing wrap up and things.
Alice: Well, since you watched any, we’ve been watching season nine.
Ellen: Oh, you have. Yeah. Yeah. [00:05:00]
Alice: And honestly, I don’t know if it’s because I’ve been watching season nine, but I had a great time with this episode.
Ellen: It doesn’t bode well
Bex: yeah, but that doesn’t help Ellen
Ellen: for the future.
Alice: No, it doesn’t help Ellen. Sorry, Ellen.
Ellen: Well, I, I was excited just to go back to see the guys again. Like, I was like, oh, my babies, they’re back! It was, it was good to see them.
Bex: Too bad we didn’t get to see a lot of them this week.
Ellen: No, that’s right. Maybe that’s why I didn’t like it as much. Not enough 118 time.
Bex: Valid. Absolutely valid. But we do get them for the very start of the episode, and I have to say that this opening sequence is amazing.
Ellen: It’s very dramatic.
Bex: Absolutely. It looks amazing. It’s very dramatic. They don’t do enough with it. But I do appreciate the, um, how elaborate it is. And I’m assuming that they would’ve had to filmed this on location too. So just the logistics into filming this, I appreciate the effort That [00:06:00] must have gone into it.
Ellen: Yeah. I wonder if they did. ’cause this’s gotta be like a, like this is Hollywood Boulevard, right? It’s like part of the busiest part of LA so
Bex: I’m assuming it is Hollywood Boulevard because we see overhead, um, the street and you can see the stars on the footpath.
Ellen: Yeah. And there’s the theater and
Bex: then the other kind of, there’s Grauman’s Chinese theater. Yeah. Then they cut to, um, Hollywood and Hollywood and Highland Shopping Center. So it’s, it’s smack bang in the middle of, of Hollywood. Who knows. I didn’t care enough to actually look up to see what went into filming the behind the scenes, but it was just a thought I had was like, ah, I don’t think this is all computer generated.
I wonder if they really did shut down a section of Hollywood Boulevard to film this. Hmm. Um, but it, it looks like a zombie film to start with. It looks like something out of the opening sequence of something like 28 Days Later. Because the street [00:07:00] is deserted is almost when it starts. There’s no sound.
There are cars and for the one of those tourist bus abandoned, the street is covered in rubbish. There’s a car on fire and the 118 are just slowly walking down the street. Maybe it would’ve been cooler if it had been a zombie apocalypse.
Ellen: Yeah.
Bex: Season 10. Tim, if you’re listening to this, can we get a se zombie apocalypse?
Ellen: Oh. Don’t give him any ideas.
Alice: Yeah. Look, by the way that 9, 9 9 is going season 10 will be a zombie apocalypse. I don’t even think we need to hint it. It’ll just full on turn into The Walking Dead and everyone will be like, okay, I guess this is what we’re doing now. Sure, why not?
Bex: Um, but it’s not a zombie apocalypse. I don’t know where everybody is, uh, but the 118 are not alone on Hollywood Boulevard, uh, because as they are walking along, um, they are side eyeing something that we can’t see on [00:08:00] screen. And when the camera pans over, there is what I assume is a vulture sitting on a food cart
Ellen: it looks like a vulture.
Bex: And then over to there, right, is a flock of emus and then there’s a giraffe.
Ellen: The gi, when the giraffe came in, I was like, I got basically jump scared by the giraffe because there was, is this
Alice: not just, is this not just what California’s like?
Ellen: It’s just giraffes walking around the street,
Bex: not emus.
Alice: Yeah, true.
Bex: Why the fuck would there be emus walking up and down Hollywood Boulevard?
Alice: I mean, we’re used to it here, so didn’t realize it was abnormal.
Ellen: Yeah, there are, there are monkeys climbing all over the, the Chinese theater and wolves running, uh, in the sort of
Bex: quote unquote wolves.
Ellen: Yeah.
Bex: Probably the same wolves that were in the, [00:09:00] um, the Lone Star crossover.
Alice: The, the big dogs. Yeah,
Bex: yeah,
Ellen: yeah. I, yes. And then, oh yeah, they walk into the courtyard in front of the theater kind of thing. And there’s like camels walking past.
Bex: Yes. Which I call bullshit on because those camels have leading harnesses on.
Ellen: Yeah, maybe they’re doing
Bex: and if they’re from the zoo, which is what the implication is, um, unless the LA Zoo goes in for that kind of exploitation of animal, I mean, I know all zoos exploit animals to some degree, but I don’t think they’d be giving out camel rides. Those camel should not have leading harnesses on.
Ellen: Mm-hmm.
Bex: But I know they can’t just have camels wandering freely. The, the handler actually needs to be able to handle them. I get that. But it, um, anyway, yes, there’s [00:10:00] camels and then there’s an elephant and Bobby turns around and goes, “I really thought this year was gonna be different.”
Alice: I did laugh at that. Like it,
Bex: We are so sorry Bobby.
Alice: It went very meta this, this episode and I quite enjoyed it.
Ellen: So the, yeah, this is the animals, assuming they came from a zoo and everyone’s cleared out because. There’s a gigantic crash in the street outside. Um, the, this actual scene does not happen in this episode. Like the lead up to this, this kind of devastation happens at the end, but this walking through the middle of it is not actually in this episode. So,
Bex: yeah, because we get a, a, we get this scene and then we jump back in time to one week earlier. Um, and yes, I mean, spoiler alert, this season opener is a, a three parter, so we [00:11:00] will eventually catch up with ourselves.
Alice: Only three parts. What a nice, refreshing change.
Bex: Don’t even get me started. I’m gonna be ranting enough about this episode. You don’t need to hear me ranting about
Alice: I know. Let’s not get into season nine,
Bex: season nine.
Ellen: Oh, there’s, it’s, how many episodes have you had so far?
Alice: I don’t know. It’s
Bex: 15.
Alice: It’s just a thing. Yeah, it feels like 15, at least 15.
Bex: Okay. Um, but okay, season five, uh, one week before the, um, elephants and giraffes and camels and emus went on, like zoo animals day out. Um, by the way, how did they get there? ’cause that’s like seven miles from the closest zoo, assuming they get out from LA Zoo, but
Alice: what the fuck’s a mile?
Bex: Anyway,
Ellen: maybe we’ll find out in the next episode how the animals get there.
Bex: Maybe? It’s like 1.6 kilometers. So call it one mile is two kilometers.
Alice: Oh. Then they just walked,
Bex: it’s [00:12:00] 12 kilometers.
Alice: Oh, it’s 12 kilometers. Um, they, I don’t know, walked quickly? Why did they all go at the same location? I don’t know. They were s seeing the stars. What else do you do if you find yourself in Hollywood?
Bex: I dunno,
Ellen: dunno.
They
Alice: just wanted to see the walk of fame. Okay. Don’t shame them.
Bex: Okay, so one week before Zoo Animal Day out, as they trek across Griffin Park to get to see the Hollywood walk of walk of fame, um, Maddie has not only slept through her alarm, but she’s managed to sleep through Chim’s alarm as well. Um, and she gets up all in a panic to discover Chim and I’m surprised that Jee-Yun is still a baby, baby Jee-Yun and having breakfast.
Ellen: She’s a little bit older than she was last time we saw her.
Alice: Yeah. She’s eating food, like she’s eating pureed pears.
Ellen: So some time has passed.
Bex: I think I saw somewhere that [00:13:00] said it was actually, I think we do get a reference. It’s four months since the end of season four.
Ellen: Okay. That’s long enough for her to be… oh yeah. Probably is. ’cause she was like a few months olds at the end of season four.
Bex: I mean, it’s a little early to be starting solids, but that’s just me.
Ellen: Pureed pear is probably okay for before like a less than 1-year-old.
Alice: They haven’t heard of baby led we weaning clearly.
Bex: But even if you’re doing like purees, you, they really should… anyway, this is not a parenting podcast. So Chim said that when Maddie slept through her alarm, that was probably a sign that she needed to sleep. So he let her go and, um, does the, the whole guiding the audience through exposition. Like, “oh Maddie, what’s your plan for today?” Which Maddie dutifully tells him.
She’s like, but you knew all that. I’m like, yes, Maddie. But we, the audience didn’t know that. Somebody needs to tell us what your [00:14:00] plans are for today.
Alice: Thanks exp exposition Chim.
Bex: And, uh, one of the things that she’s going to do is go to, uh, her doctor, who I’m assuming is this, a doctor for treatment of her postpartum depression.
Ellen: He suggests that the tiredness is a side effect for one of her medications, but, and Maddie’s just like shutting him down. Like, “look, you don’t need to, you don’t need to worry about me. It’s not, this is not your job.” It’s like, well it kind of is his job, Maddie, he’s got, he just wants to look after you.
Alice: Yeah.
Bex: Yeah.
Ellen: She says she’ll talk to the doctor and he goes to work.
Bex: Yes.
Ellen: And she looks kind of sad still.
Bex: She does look very sad, very tired. Very not herself.
Alice: Yeah.
Bex: Um, so because Chim was doing baby duty for the morning, um, the rest of the 118 have already arrived at the station and they’re all, uh, shooting pool up in the, the loft area. Um,
Ellen: oh,
Bex: while Eddie is,
Ellen: this was, this was one of the good scenes. [00:15:00] I liked it.
Bex: Um, Eddie is sharing his plans with the 118, um, while Buck criticizes them, or at least tries to put them in context for Eddie. Um, because apparently Eddie has been invited to accompany Ana to a christening.
Alice: Yeah. So Eddie’s meeting everybody, Ana’s parents, her tios, her tias, her primos, AKA, her uncles, her aunts, and her cousins, and her whole family’s gonna be there and Buck’s like, “Yep. That sounds pretty serious.”
Ellen: Buck gets still like, really defensive about, like, he’s, he sounds really put out by the fact that this is happening. I’m like, what?
Alice: Yeah.
Ellen: Why are you like this?
Alice: They’re both like this. Whatcha are you talking about Buck’s? Like I, you, you haven’t spoken about her for, for like four months and how you all of a sudden go into this christening? Like, what?
Ellen: Actually, at one point, Eddie actually calls her Anna again, and I was like, oh, not this again. He [00:16:00] still doesn’t know. Yeah.
Alice: Eddie still doesn’t know her name. Yeah,
Ellen: yeah. Um, Hen’s like, “it’s not like it’s Ana and Eddie’s baby, Buck.” And, and Chim just picks that moment to arrive and he says, “That’s right, baby Buck.”
Bex: But then he’s on Buck’s side when they fill him in, that Eddie’s going to a christening with Ana. He’s like, well, that’s serious.
Alice: Yeah. And he’s like, God dammit.
Bex: And interestingly, Buck has some attempts and pop culture references. He goes like, “it’s, you know, she’s showing you off to the entire family. It’s like the opening scene of The Godfather.” And then Bobby is the one that corrects him and goes, “Mm. That’s actually the like final scene of The Godfather.”
Alice: Buck tried, okay, maybe he only saw the end. He walked in while Chim was watching the end and was just like, “Oh, this is The Godfather.”
Bex: I, I dunno. Just, just don’t even try Buck. Um, but Bobby’s either [00:17:00] very supportive, uh, or pretending to be very supportive of Eddie. Tells him that he’ll have a great time. Um, Eddie tangents away and says that he’s, you know, really excited and that Chris is really excited and really looking forward to it. And he’s even agreed to get a new suit.
’cause, you know, he’s completely outgrown the last one, which, you know, the last time he wore that was his mother’s funeral. Like, damn, Eddie.
Ellen: Ouch.
Alice: Yeah.
Ellen: Yeah. And then everyone kind of, mm oops. Okay.
Bex: Um, but then they get saved by the bell because everybody’s phones start buzzing. But Bobby says that there is an earthquake alert.
Bucks has a tsunami warning. Eddie has a mudslide warning. Um, to which Chim replies, “Wow, that sounds like our greatest hits.”
Ellen: Mm, very meta.
Alice: That’s great. It’s so meta.
Bex: Um, Chim’s uh, Hen’s phone is also buzzing, and they [00:18:00] kind of look at her and like, okay, shit, what kind of emergency do you have? And she’s like, “no, apparently I’m calling 9-1-1.”
Ellen: And she’s not the only one.
Bex: Yes. ’cause we cut to dispatch where multiple dispatchers
Alice: everyone’s calling 9-1-1
Bex: are dealing with multiple people who are apparently calling 9-1-1, but they don’t have emergencies.
Ellen: They, they, like a bunch of different dispatchers all have like, um, “What’s your emergency?” And they have someone on the other end going, “Who’s this? I don’t what? I didn’t call you. What happened?” So, um, Josh kind of says to everyone, you know, there’s a problem with cell phone providers. Um, we don’t know how to tell between serious calls and not serious calls.
So if you don’t have an actual emergency, get, get the hell off the phone so that people who need us can get through. And so there, one of the, the women who’s called 9-1-1 and Linda answers her, uh, her like, you know, satellite navigation is [00:19:00] not working properly and it keeps saying, recalculating recalculating.
And Linda’s like, “ma’am, are you in need of emergency assistance?” And she’s just like, “What? Who, who said that?” This one is like so stupid.
Bex: Not only did the, whoever hacked the cell phone providers manage to hack into every single person’s phone and get them to dial on 9-1-1, but it also managed to put the phone on speaker.
Alice: Apparently.
Ellen: Yeah. Unless she’s just got it turned up really loud.
Alice: I mean, to be fair, if I tell Siri to call someone on speaker, then like, it’ll call it on speaker. So. It’s possible
Bex: It is? Okay. Um, no, you can actually see on the screen that the speaker button, the speaker icon is eliminated. So it’s been put on speaker.
Alice: Yeah.
Bex: Um, yeah, this woman is so stupid. So her GPS has taken her completely off route. Um, at what point do you just stop the car?
Alice: I know she just keeps driving, like [00:20:00] what are you doing?
Ellen: Keeps driving. Yeah.
Bex: Yeah. I mean what like, she’s obviously trying to go somewhere. Maybe she’s going to a nice restaurant.
At what point do you go this like I’m suddenly in the industrial section of town and I’m driving into a port and there are shipping containers. This does not look like the restaurant that I was going to. Shouldn’t you like stop the car and pull over and try to recalibrate?
Ellen: Or at least turn around and go back the way you came or something? I dunno.
Bex: Yeah. But no, she is blindly following the sat nav and to which I like, I mean, you kind of deserve it. If you didn’t have enough sense to stop, you kind of deserve what’s coming for you.
Alice: Oh, this just reminded me of The Office.
Ellen: The sat nav wasn’t even working at all. Like the navigation was just not, you know, recalculating the whole time. And then when it does, like she tells Linda that her GPS is going insane and Linda’s like, “ah, sorry, I can’t really help you with that.”
Alice: Yeah. Which is rude.
And
Ellen: she’s like, okay then, and then
Alice: Linda’s busy, it’s fine.
Ellen: And then finally the GPS actually does come up [00:21:00] with a route and it’s like, ” turn left now.” And she goes “now?” And she just yoinks the the wheel to the left and just drives right into the water. It’s like
Alice: she drives her car into a fucking lake
Bex: Again, did she not see the water in front of her? The bridge illuminated in front of her and go, ah, maybe I should slam on the brakes.
Alice: It’s just like The Office, I’m telling you, you guys!
Ellen: She wasn’t really paying attention. She was like looking at her phone.
Bex: Okay. What happened in The Office?
Alice: I keep forgetting you haven’t seen it. Um, in The Office, Michael Scott, literally like his GPS tells him to turn right. And so he just turns right and he drives into a lake. ’cause it’s telling him to turn right at the end of the road, but that’s not what it said. And so he just drives into a lake.
Bex: Okay.
Ellen: Okay. So it’s literally the same thing.
Alice: Yeah. Literally the same thing.
Bex: Right. So now that, uh, she has an actual emergency, the woman whose name is Kirby, uh, calls back and gets May. And so May has to talk her out of [00:22:00] her sinking car.
Ellen: It’s not sinking very quickly, but it is sinking. She doesn’t have anything to break the window with. It’s sinking. She can’t open the door. Um, May kind of talks her through what she’s gonna do. So she’s gotta wait for the pressure to equalize.
Bex: I did love that. Like May’s asking her, is there anything you can break the windows with? And I just flashed back to like the beginning of season three when Athena’s getting tools out of the back of the car. ’cause Bobby has equipped all of their cars with like window breaking.
Ellen: That’s right. Yeah, we did talk about that.
Alice: Said what You mean you don’t have a fully fitted out kit in your car? Didn’t your dad, didn’t your um, stepdad put that in there?
Bex: Didn’t your stepdad?
Alice: Like isn’t he what he’s for?
Ellen: Yeah.
Bex: Uh, apparently not.
Ellen: Um, and she didn’t remember you can take the back of the headrest off the back of your chair and use that to break them.
Bex: Yes. And May didn’t tell her that either, but that’s not the plan. The plan B is to wait for fire rescue to [00:23:00] come and rescue her. Plan A is to rescue herself, which entails allowing the car to completely submerge so that the pressure between the outside of the car and the inside of the car is equalized, at which point Kirby will be able to open the door and then as May says, kick, kick, kick for the surface.
Ellen: Yeah.
Bex: Which sounds like a workable plan except for when Kirby then goes to execute it. She’s opens her door and then another car crashes into her
Alice: as it does, you know,
Bex: because someone else was idiotically following their sat nav and drove off the edge of the airport.
Alice: Yeah, Michael Scott arrived. That’s fine.
Ellen: But uh. In the middle of all of this, other cars crashing in and headlights throwing light into the, into the water. Um, we see someone dive into the water and it’s Buck and Eddie, like if, if I, if I was underwater and then I saw Buck and [00:24:00] Eddie in the, in the window, I’d be like, have I arrived in heaven?
Bex: Damn I died.
Ellen: What’s happening here? Yeah,
Bex: I didn’t list, I didn’t listen to that dispatcher, but that’s okay. ’cause there’s two beautiful angels just in front of me. ‘
Ellen: cause angels are here to rescue me, but they do rescue her. Oh. So this is ridiculous. So there’s like the 118 are there and they’re rescuing people because there is a huge line of cars that are waiting to drive into the water because their GPS has told them to.
Bex: Yeah. Like everybody in LA has no brain and because their machine has told them to turn left, they have all ended up in the exact same spot.
Alice: Yeah.
Bex: Uh, ’cause apparently they all use the same um, GPS system, which is an app called Gogo Anywhere.
Ellen: Well, I mean I guess they can’t really product place Google in. [00:25:00] So all the cars have gotta have the same app that they use.
Bex: Yeah. Um, so we cut, after they get Kirby out of the water, we realize that everybody is stupid. Um, we cut to channel eight news who is telling us that the, um, representatives from the SAT nav app, uh, claim that it’s a bug in their system. Taylor’s kind of calling bullshit on that.
Alice: They say it was a bug with the newest update.
Bex: Yes,
Alice: Buck does not care.
Bex: Because he is in, he is in bed with Taylor.
Alice: Yeah. They’re in bed watching tv. I’m seeing this. Taylor is watching the tv. Buck is trying not to watch the tv,
Bex: but Taylor also has her laptop open and she’s researching while she’s watching the news report. She’s in her underwear. Um,
Alice: girl is working
Bex: and Buck looks. Yeah, she is. Um, um, and Buck. And Buck looks incredibly put [00:26:00] out that, you know, she’s in her underwear in bed with him, but she’s not paying any attention to him.
Ellen: Yeah.
Bex: Um, and he actually snatches her laptop off her to force her to pay attention to him.
Alice: He’s such a child.
Bex: Huh, which does not work because she, like, she kisses him to placate him and then takes the opportunity to steal his phone, uses his face to unlock it, and then continues working on his phone.
Ellen: I always feel like that’s so cheeky using someone’s face to unlock their phone. It’s like, come on, so rude.
Alice: But like, seriously, like she’s, she’s sitting in bed, like when we say she’s, she’s just, she’s wearing a bra. Like why, who wears a bra in bed? No one wears a bra. As soon as you walk in the house, you flip that thing off.
Ellen: It’s television, Alice, you can’t sit there in your, with your boobs out on tv.
Bex: Oh, no.
Alice: Uh, you can on HBO,
Ellen: not on this, not on this time slot. [00:27:00]
Bex: Okay. But it’s like, let’s assume that they’re in bed and they’re either supposed to be going to sleep or they’ve just had sex. Why is she in a matching bra and panties set in either of those situations?
If she’s going to sleep, she’d be in her jammies, which might at this point be she stole one of Buck’s T-shirts.
Alice: Yep.
Bex: Um, and if they’ve just had sex, she’d be fully naked with like the shirt, the, um, sheet tucked up under her.
Alice: Yeah. Like I totally imagine like Buck, like she got home, or Buck got home and the TV was on and Buck’s like, “Ooh, let’s get nasty.” And then the news report came on and she’s like, “Wait, no, wait, wait, wait, wait.” And she’s already like, mostly undressed. And he’s like, “no, but, but we were doing the thing. Can we just finish doing the thing? God dammit.”
Bex: You have to. You have to that these are the same writers who later in this episode have a woman come home after wearing high heels all day and continue to wear the high heels as she wanders around her house, and then continues to wear her high heels into the bathroom as she’s running her bath.
Alice: There was not a woman in this writing [00:28:00] room at all, was there?
Bex: There’s no woman in the world would do that.
Alice: Oh, Jesus Christ. Anyway, yeah, this scene, this scene is very hot for like a moment. It’s at least hotter than Eddie and Ana’s math scene. So,
Bex: hey, at least Taylor stole Buck’s phone and used his face to unlock it while he was still awake and didn’t wake him to be unconscious.
Ellen: It could have been worse. Yeah.
Alice: Do you reckon, do you reckon Buck taught her this move? Or was it Chim’s fingerprint?
Bex: He used fingerprint for, for Chim’s,
Alice: it was fingerprint back then. Yeah. Cool. Yeah. But still, but like he totally told Taylor, he’s just like, oh yeah. So then I like snuck into the thing and used and Taylor’s just like “Sweet.” Unlock.
Bex: Uh, but the, the, the point of that scene is that, uh, Buck has the Go-Go Anywhere app on his phone and Taylor is using it to work out when the last update was. ’cause apparently the last update is what caused the bugs [00:29:00] according to the representatives of the um, app. But Taylor discovers that the update, the app last updated two weeks ago.
Which doesn’t explain why everything happened tonight. Um, but Karen,
Alice: I love Buck’s, Buck’s. Blood is not in his brain, and he’s just like, “no, all the accidents happened today.” And she’s like, “that’s not… Fuck it. Okay. All right, sweetie, just go back to bed. It’s fine.”
Bex: He’s, he is not equipped to deal with Taylor Kelly
Ellen: Not right now
Alice: bless his little socks.
Ellen: His brain is elsewhere, but Karen knows what’s up,
Bex: but thankfully there are other members of the cast who have brains. Yes, Karen knows exactly what’s going on.
Alice: Yeah. Karen, the one member of this entire cast who has a brain, um, knows a guy.
Ellen: Yeah. And Michael’s like, “You know a guy?”
Alice: I love that. It was just such a gay man to a lesbian.
Ellen: I know.
Alice: Like, it was so perfect. That was the only realistic part of this whole episode [00:30:00] is Michael asking the lesbian, “you know a guy?” And Karen just goes, “I’m an engineer Michael. I know a lot of guys.” Oh, that was great.
Bex: Uh, so apparently Karen’s guy has told her that, um, go, Go-Go Anywhere, got hit with a cyber attack.
Um, and go, go anywhere has not been the only one. There was a defense contractor in Texas last week and a week before that, uh, someone, a big company in Michigan got hit. She keeps calling it ransomware, but it’s not ransomware at this point. It’s just a cyber attack. They’ve just been hacked. ’cause ransomware is something very specific. At this point it’s just being hacked.
Ellen: Yeah. Later, later on they do ask for money though, right?
Bex: Later on definitely there is a ransomware attack, but this one is not as far as we know, ransomware. Um, Michael is all aghast, like, “Why haven’t we heard about this?” And Karen’s like, “It happens every day, like [00:31:00] 4,000 cyber attacks happen every day. You don’t hear about all of them.”
And Michael’s again sort of clutching at the pearls and like, “But, but you know, we’re safe though there, there’s backups, there’s redundancies, there’s firewalls.” And Karen’s just all doom and gloom. It’s like, “No, there’s nothing you can do.” There’s,
Ellen: I actually like this conversation because it’s, it’s actually quite realistic in that like you,
Bex: it’s smart.
Ellen: Yeah. You think that there, there are like everything is backed up and safe and in the cloud and everything, but. Yeah. Like any, any part of it could come down at any time. You know, like we know that. Yeah, like AWS was like crashed the other week and a bunch of websites went down like that even distributed cloud infrastructure is not foolproof.
Alice: Oh. So many people were mad ’cause Snapchat went down. Like it was awful.
Ellen: Yeah. Um, it’s, yeah, it’s worrying, but also there’s a lot of people who know what they’re doing with this sort of thing to like fix things quite quickly. So hopefully the whole of society won’t collapse in any, [00:32:00] in a hurry. You know,
Bex: I’m, I’m kind of with Karen. I, I don’t know, maybe it’s ’cause ’cause of the media I consume growing up, but I’m always expecting that it’s going to be like Dark Angel tomorrow and like a a an EMF bomb is gonna take out all the computer systems and we’re gonna have to go back to analog, everything. So don’t put all of your trust into computers.
Alice: Did you grow up in the Cold War?
Bex: I’m not that old. Fuck you.
Respectfully, lovingly.
Ellen: Yeah. Well I’ve got a whole heap of stuff in Google, so if Google goes down, then bye. You know, like
Alice: Google will go down and Ellen won’t care about anything except the fics.
Ellen: Yeah, that’s what I mean. Like my emails.
Alice: My emails, who cares? My fics! My fics!
Ellen: I don’t care about the emails
Bex: Ao3 is down permanently. [00:33:00]
Ellen: All of my millions of words are gone! Anyway. Yes, Hen’s wife is the apocalyptic doomsayer.
Bex: I’m with Karen. I’m the apocalyptic doomsayer. Yes.
Ellen: Yeah.
Bex: And Toni, ’cause apparently Toni is at this breakfast, so it’s not just Hen and Karen and Michael and David, they’ve invited everybody for breakfast. At the Bathena Residence,
Alice: for a second I was like, who the fuck’s Toni? Then I remembered you mean Hen’s mom.
Bex: Hen’s mom.
Alice: Yeah.
Bex: Yeah.
Alice: Hen’s mom. It’s okay. I’ve just forgot her name. I was like, who the fuck is Toni?
Ellen: You said you wanted to marry her in the last episode. What? You’ve forgotten her already?
Alice: I’ve forgotten her already.
Bex: No, I think she, I think she had issues with marrying Toni because then she couldn’t have sex with Hen.
Yeah, exactly. Unless she got into, I have a very specific subset of porn.
Ellen: Right.
Bex: So Hen’s mom, aka Toni announces that she’s gonna need a little bit, [00:34:00] something a little bit stronger than coffee if she’s gonna have to listen to all of this stuff. So Athena gets up and comes back with a whiskey bottle so that everybody’s coffee can be Irish coffee.
Um,
Alice: what time of the morning is this? And also the children are there.
Bex: Yes. The children are there because they come in because their iPads are frozen and they can’t play their games.
Alice: Yeah, Oh no, Roblox is down.
Bex: So, yeah, so that is apparently signaling it is the end of the world because Roblox is down. Um, and Athena quips that if the world is gonna end, she would appreciate that it does so before 11 o’clock tomorrow morning, and Hen who is apparently her bestie, um, says “Why, what’s happening at 11?” Which I know is exposition.
I know it’s a way to get the transition, but Hen, are you seriously telling me you don’t know what is happening at 11 tomorrow morning?
Alice: Yeah. Like, it’d be, it’d make more sense if Toni asked, but like, Hen should know,
Bex: or maybe David? [00:35:00]
Ellen: Yeah, da David doesn’t get to say anything in this scene. Could have, could have got him
Alice: is, hang on. Is David there?
Ellen: Yeah, he’s there.
Bex: Yeah, he’s there. He’s sitting next to Michael.
Alice: No, I did not.
Ellen: Yeah, he doesn’t say anything.
Alice: Did not.
Ellen: Yeah. Yeah.
Alice: Clearly he did not notice he was there at all.
Bex: He doesn’t get, it’s like him and Ravi, they are there on scene but they don’t get paid ’cause they don’t say anything.
Alice: I did actually see Ravi in the credits and I was just like, Ravi was there.
Bex: Yeah, he
Alice: clearly, I watched this episode real well.
Bex: He pulled Kirby out of the water, so like back and Eddie got her out of the car and then Chim and Ravi pulled her back up onto the port while the background firefighter kinda lurked in the background doing background firefighter things.
Alice: Right, of course. Yeah. I definitely watched that scene real closely. Um, feel like I should mention, I had a very busy weekend and, um, I watched this episode with two min, like I, it finished two minutes before we were scheduled to start recording, so I don’t know what’s going on.
Bex: I would say that
Alice: I’m just here for the ride this episode.[00:36:00]
Bex: I would almost counter that you literally just finished watching it, so it should be an incredibly fresh in your mind.
Alice: Yeah, you would think, right?
Bex: As opposed to Ellen who watched it a couple days ago. Anyway, 11 o’clock tomorrow morning comes along and it is everybody’s favorite, uh, time of day: pretrial motions in the State of California v Jeffrey Connor Hudson at the LA County Courthouse. Presided by the Honorable Judge Priya Atkins.
Alice: Yay.
Ellen: Yay. Okay.
Bex: No, I’m with you. I signed up for this show to watch hot firefighters and maybe some police and maybe some 9-1-1 dispatchers. I did not sign up for a courtroom drama.
Ellen: Courtroom drama. Yeah,
Alice: yeah,
Bex: yeah. Unfortunately that’s what we get for most of this episode.
Alice: I mean, you don’t, if you walk off and do chores while it’s happening,
Ellen: maybe that would’ve been a good idea. [00:37:00] Yes. Athena and Lou Ranson are there. They’re watching the proceedings. Um, they bring in the realtor rapist.
Bex: I don’t even know if people are allowed to come in for pretrial motions ’cause there’s not actually a trial. So should the, should the gallery be open?
Alice: Yeah. I don’t know why there’s so many people. It’s a,
Ellen: I don’t, I don’t even, I don’t know anything about what goes on in courtrooms. So this just, I was just like, whatever.
Bex: So this is, this is, this is the trial before the trial. So there are some things that, um, the, the defense and the prosecution want to hash out before it goes before the jury because, um, there are things that they need to have a judge rule on, but they don’t want a jury to see it.
So, for example, in this case, um, the motion would be to suppress the evidence. So they don’t want the jury to know that there was evidence. ’cause in the jury’s gonna want to see the evidence and they’re gonna take the evidence into consideration. Even after the ju the judge has ruled that it’s inex inadmissible.
So they [00:38:00] go, the judge is gonna make a ruling on the evidence now, and then they can move to trial either with the evidence or without the evidence, depending on how the judge tries, um, rules.
Ellen: Okay,
Alice: sure.
Bex: But the, um. The kicker is that before the, before the state can start putting its motions forwards, Jeffrey fires his attorney and says that he wants to represent himself, which nobody is happy about.
Alice: Yep. I would care more, but I just don’t. Um, but yeah, basically rapist dude fires, his attorney decides that he wants to represent himself and interview all the witnesses himself. And obviously, like that’s not ideal for the women that he raped that are there as witnesses.
Bex: Yeah. The state makes the case that, um, if Jeffrey is representing himself, he will then be allowed to question, uh, the, the witnesses who go up on the stand, which include most of his victims. Um, and that is tantamount to continue to [00:39:00] abusing them further. Um, so the judge calls council into chambers to do what is known as a Faretta hearing, which is basically a quick hearing to determine whether that she will allow Jeffrey to represent himself.
Ellen: I mean, I don’t know anything about, about this kind of proceedings, but I feel like no ju no judge would put like the victims through that. Like would that, I don’t know if that would actually happen.
Bex: Um,
Ellen: it just feel, it just feels cruel for no reason like
Bex: it does. I mean, it, it is cruel, but it’s the right for Jeffrey to have a fair trial. And unfortunately it has been ruled that the Supreme Court has ruled that representing yourself is part of the right to a fair trial. Um, the state might decide not to call the women as witnesses. They might [00:40:00] find other ways to get their evidence into the trial without having to actually put them on the stand.
Um, I don’t know why they’d be putting them on the stand anyway. It’s, that’s making them give evidence in court is, is like putting them through that abuse again.
Ellen: Yeah. That is still pretty cruel.
Bex: Um, especially if he’s in the courtroom anyway, even if he’s not actually talking to them. But yeah, I don’t know.
Unfortunately she does rule that he’s going to be allowed to represent himself, so they have to all go back into the courtroom to continue with the pretrial motions. And as part of Jeffrey’s first motion, he wants Athena on the stand because he wants to suppress all of the evidence found at Studio Self Storage, which was all of the trophies that Jeffrey had collected from all his victims, which is the only thing tying Jeffrey to the rapes.
Ellen: Yeah. And there’s not only like all the women who were his victims there [00:41:00] that he, there’s also like his fan club there, like a, a bunch of these women who are like,
Bex: oh yeah, they’re gross,
Ellen: smiling and laughing and waving at him. So God knows why. But people are weird
Bex: as Athena. Uh, Athena says that they’re, um, women like that have something broken inside of them that makes them fall for psychopaths.
Ellen: Mm-hmm.
Bex: But we’re going to leave the courtroom for a moment. And, um, also, God, we are gonna go to some kind of, uh, clothing store, upscale clothing store where the Diaz boys are getting fitted for their suits. Um, and thank you so much to Ana Flores for convincing Eddie to try on suits, even though he didn’t need a new one. ’cause damn boy cleans up nice.
Ellen: Yep.
Alice: Yeah. Gotta say this is probably the best part of the episode after, after the Buck and Taylor Kellys scene. Obviously that’s the best [00:42:00] part of the episode. But you know,
Ellen: this scene in this scene, Ana and Eddie had more chemistry in this scene than they ever have before, just saying.
Alice: They haven’t even kissed yet and they’re flirting up a storm,
Ellen: including the maths scene. And he’s, he’s like, “I’m not supposed to be getting a new tie,” but, and she’s like, “But you look so good though.” It’s like, damn right Ana.
Bex: Eddie’s like, “You just really loved getting me dressed up, don’t you?” And Ana’s like, “Yeah. And the other thing.” Like, ma’am! I don’t blame her.
Alice: Not gonna lie. I’m so tired. I was just like, what other thing? Oh,
Ellen: that other thing.
Alice: Undressed.
Bex: Yes. Undressing.
Ellen: Oh, you’ve got a, you’ve got a screenshot here.
Bex: Oh, yeah.
Ellen: Whoa.
Bex: Oh yeah. I, I finally fixed the settings that allow me, ’cause there was something going on with my computer and every time I took a screenshot of Disney it would just get like the black screen, but I fixed it and now I can get screenshots.
So now I can just stare at, at Eddie Diaz [00:43:00] shushing me and I’m gonna be happy because fingers near mouth and suit and
Ellen: gosh,
Bex: yes. Um, but while Eddie is having a great time, Chris is not having a good time.
Alice: I really appreciate and
Bex: I dunno why they
Alice: put something in this episode for both of us. Like they gave you Eddie shushing and they gave me Taylor and Buck half naked in bed. Like just
Ellen: so nice of them.
Alice: Yeah.
Bex: It’s to make up for the rest of the episode. They’re just like, focus on, focus on Megan’s tits and just ignore the rest of the episode. And Alice is like, yeah, okay. Sure.
Alice: Well, what, sorry, I was watching the Buck and Taylor scene again.
Ellen: Chris also looks quite sharp in his suit.
Bex: He does, but despite what Eddie said about him being very excited to get a new suit, suddenly he’s not so excited. Apparently this is the third suit that he’s tried on and he hates all of them.
Alice: I also hate trying on clothes. [00:44:00] I get it.
Bex: Yeah. The sales person is trying to be helpful. Um, and he says, “Why don’t we get Mom over to see what she thinks?”
Alice: Oh, awkward.
Bex: And everybody’s just like, um, well, we, and Ana, Ana is the one that’s like, “oh, no, no, no. I’m, I’m, I’m not his mother. I’m just a friend.” Um, meanwhile, Mr. I Don’t Panic has gone full panic stations.
Alice: Full panic stations. Yeah.
Bex: Like he’s full of like, he’s like tugging at his jacket. Like it’s suddenly super hot and the jacket’s suddenly super tight and his hearing gets all muffled. And this like sweat on his brow and his vision starts to like, like tunnel vision. And there’s this high pitch ringing and he can hear his heartbeat in his ears and then boom, he’s on the floor.
And everyone’s panicking and they call 9-1-1. And I would love to have heard that 9-1-1 call, especially if it went through like Josh [00:45:00] or May,
Alice: Hey, Josh is there. Like, “Hang on. So someone called you his kids’ mother and he had a panic. Yep. This, this all checks out.” And Ana’s like, “What are you talking about?” And he’s like, “Nothing. Nothing at all.”
Ellen: Nothing.
Alice: Just gonna keep eating my popcorn here. Have, have you sent an ambulance? Oh shit. Yeah. Hang on, let me, um,
Bex: let me, I’ll damn, the 118’s too far away. Let me send somebody else.
Alice: Guess I’ll send someone else. But I’m definitely telling Maddie about this later.
Bex: In my head he sent the 1 36 and Lena has like, got outta the ambulance and taken one look at him and gone, “Fuck, Diaz, what did you do?”
But I don’t know which ambulance they called, but they did call him an ambulance because when we come back from commercial, Eddie is in a hospital with um, EKG leads somehow affixed to his chest. ’cause there doesn’t appear to be any stickers on them. They’re just kind of artfully draped over his [00:46:00] pecs. Um,
Ellen: I think they’re very small stickers,
Bex: aren’t they supposed to be like the big white ones?
Ellen: Like slimline stickers. They usually are, but I don’t know. They’re, they’re stuck to him somehow.
Bex: Yeah. Um, but the cardiologist, Dr. Salazar walks in and says, “Well, it wasn’t a heart attack.”
Alice: I’m, I’m just going back to watch that scene to see what they are stuck on. But, um, I just need to comment first that maybe the, um, the EKG lines were all just that leads were all just Bex and they just didn’t wanna leave Eddie’s bare chest
Bex: insert that meme of like the, the guy with like the, the giant chest and the little person with his, like his face thrust between them. Yeah.
Alice: Um, so they, I don’t know what the fuck there’s, there, there’s like little stickers. The ones that when I was taken to, um, hospital because they [00:47:00] thought that I’d had a heart attack. It was just muscle spasming. But it was after the, um, like it was during COVID when everyone was getting apparently like clots in their chest from COVID. Um, anyway, I had like these big circle ones.
Bex: That’s what I was expecting.
Alice: Yeah. And like after they took the leads, ’cause they’ve got like, they’re big circle ones and they’ve got like the metal to attach the leads to and they took the leads off and sent me home.
Bex: Yeah. And you clip the leads onto them.
Alice: And like, I went straight to bed because I hadn’t slept all night. Like I’d literally been awake all night. I dozed off for like 30 minutes in the hospital bed. Um, and then got home at like 7:00 AM and went straight to bed. And then when I got up to shower, then I just kept finding them.
I found them for like two days. Like I took them all off that I could see and then like a day later I was showering again and I’m just like, how is there another, where do they keep coming from?
Jesus Christ.
Ellen: Did, they do put a lot of leads on you.
Alice: They put so many, because I was like, oh yeah. Like, but there was like another one like in the middle of my back that I hadn’t seen when I was like half asleep [00:48:00] showering the day before.
Ellen: Wow.
Bex: Huh.
Alice: But yeah, they just kept coming. Um, mom’s job is actually to put the EKG leads on, so I should send her a photo of this and just be like, what the fuck is this? And she’ll be like, yeah, that’s not the right sticker.
Bex: Like, what exactly are the leads connected to? ’cause they don’t, ’cause they’re meant to be connected to something. So anyway,
Alice: it looks like they’re connected to something. I just don’t, it’s just not the big white circle ones that I had.
Bex: Yeah. Anyway. They did the EKG, and it wasn’t a heart attack. And Eddie is incredibly disappointed by this because he for sure thought that he was having a heart attack. And the doctor very kindly says, well, a panic attack can often present as a heart attack. And Eddie’s like, “No, I don’t panic. It couldn’t be a panic attack. I don’t panic.”
And the doctor sort of just looks at him and goes, “Because you’re a guy?” And Chris’s like, “And a firefighter!”
Alice: yeah, thanks Chris.
Ellen: But this doesn’t happen on the [00:49:00] job.
Bex: The doctor’s like, “you know, they’re, they’re completely irrational, panic attacks. They can happen at any time for any reason. Is your, have you experienced any lifestyle changes lately? Any stresses?” And he is like, “no, no. Everything’s been great. Right?” And looks at Ana and Ana just sort of like stares at him.
Ellen: Oh yeah. Can’t think of one thing that changed recently for you.
Alice: This is the one that’s like, yeah, he got sh*t.
Bex: He got sh*t and he started dating Ana.
Alice: Oh, I just noticed, so I just looked over and I’ve still got topless Eddie with the EKG leads on him and I was like, oh, there is like a mark up by one of his shoulders. So like maybe that
Bex: It’s where he got sh*t!
Alice: It’s his fucking scar. Anyway, continue. Yeah,
Bex: they, I will. Yeah. Kudos to makeup for putting a tiny little red mark. I think they used the same makeup when they put the, the mark on Chim’s forehead after he got the rebar through it.
Alice: Literally looks like the same thing. Yes.
Bex: Which is supposedly the, i, I don’t know what a scar would look like after four months, but I have [00:50:00] a feeling that it. Maybe Eddie has got like Wolverine, um, healing capabilities. I don’t know. Yeah.
Ellen: Yeah. It doesn’t look as bad as it probably should.
Bex: It should, yes. Um, so the doctor’s like, “Oh yes, the sniper.” That, that could definitely, if you’re repressing everything about that, that could definitely have triggered a panic attack. Eddie’s just like adamant. “I’m like, I don’t even think about it. I don’t panic.”
She’s like, “Well, I am gonna give you this delightful, informative pamphlet outlining what to do if you start experiencing panic attacks symptoms again.” And he is like, “I don’t need it. ’cause I don’t panic.” I’m so glad that we didn’t like do the drinking game. We have to take a sh*t every time someone says the episode title. ’cause this scene alone, I would be out of it.
Ellen: Yeah. There’s a lot of panic
Bex: The number of times that Eddie says he doesn’t panic.
Ellen: Yeah.
Bex: Funnily enough, I went on Reddit to sort of look at. What other people thought of this episode and somebody [00:51:00] pointed out that, you know, somebody thinks that Buck is the parent to Chris and Buck’s just like, “Thank you.” Ana, they say the the same thing to Ana and she’s like, “Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no. I’m not his mother. I’m just a friend.”
Alice: Just a friend.
Bex: Yeah. Interesting.
Ellen: Hmm.
Bex: Unfortunately, that’s kind of the only fun we get. We’ve gotta go back to Athena.
Ellen: Oh, this was a scary scene. Yeah, I didn’t realize what was happening until the end of it, but, so I thought that it was actually happening for a while there. I’m like, oh my God, what’s going on? She’s, she’s sleeping and in bed on, I can’t remember if Bobby’s there. Yeah, I think
Bex: He’s not. And that’s kind of what clued me, that she gets up and she’s getting her gun out of a gun safe. And Bobby doesn’t wake up and go, Hey, what are you doing?
Alice: Yeah. What the fuck are you doing?
Bex: Which would be exactly what would happen if this actually happened in real life for them. Yeah. Not like in real life, real life. Because anyway, um, yes, [00:52:00] she gets a gun out of a gun safe. She goes downstairs. Um, the back door has been left ajar, so Athena closes it, locks it, turns around, and gets attacked by Jeffrey, who was apparently snuck into the house in the middle of the night. Uh, so she
Alice: behind the fireplace that was knocked down like two seasons ago, but then magically rebuilt itself.
Bex: And Michael rebuilt it exactly the same way. He built it the first time.
Ellen: Yeah. And then Jeffrey throws Athena around a bit, so crashing her against the walls and things. And then, uh, she drops her gun and Jeffrey picks it up and points it at her and says, “Bye-bye.” And then bang, she wakes up and she’s actually in her bedroom.
Bex: Yes. It was all a dream.
Ellen: She’s alone in bed this time.
Bex: That’s only because Bobby’s in the kitchen.
Ellen: It’s like a, it’s a big sort of tone change here because she sort of wakes up all in a panic and whatever. Panic [00:53:00] hard.
Alice: Yeah. This scene was kind of disorienting. Like, I don’t know if they meant to do it like that, but I don’t know. It was weird.
Ellen: Yeah. ’cause she starts out not really knowing what’s going on and then she walks into the kitchen and suddenly it’s all domestic and like, you know, she, yeah. I guess that that’s what happens when you have bad dreams though. You snap out of them pretty fast. If like, after you wake up it fades away.
Bex: Or she’s putting on a brave face because Harry is there. Um,
Ellen: well, yeah, she,
Bex: um, and he’s making pancakes with cheese
Alice: Ricotta!
Bex: Bobby’s so cute the way he pops out. Like, it’s not actual cheese, it’s ricotta. Uh, I want pancakes with ricotta.
Ellen: They do sound good.
Bex: Instead we have to go back to the courthouse and watch Jeffrey question Athena. And I’m not gonna lie, he’s not wrong. I hate, I don’t like him. I hate that the episode kind of makes us [00:54:00] side with Athena or tries to make us side with Athena, but he is not wrong.
Basically his, um, the whole gist of his motion is that Athena is a, uh, a dirty cop, um, who possibly planted that evidence and to, um, basically blame Jeffrey for the attacks. Um, and all of that evidence should be suppressed because Athena cannot be trusted.
Alice: Yep. And like, to be fair, she did arrest a minor.
Bex: Yeah. He pulls out all her greatest hits, including like the 16-year-old who was bullying, um, May, and who, you know, bullied her so hard that May attempted suicide.
Ellen: He is just basically giving her shit for her misconduct. Like she shouldn’t.
Bex: But the thing is, we have also given her shit for her misconduct.
Ellen: Yeah. Yeah.
Bex: He’s, he is absolutely not wrong. And any good defense lawyer would be using Athena’s past against her. I just don’t like the way that [00:55:00] the, the episode sets it up, that like Jeffrey is the one questioning her and he’s, he’s trying to like win against Athena and because it’s like Jeffrey bad, therefore Athena is good and we have to decide with Athena.
Alice: It’s weird
Bex: even though objectively he’s right.
Alice: Yeah. It’s, it’s very weird. And then like Athena says, “I’m good police.” And I’m like, is this, this is after the ACAB movement, right? Like,
Bex: do, do we need to like roll the tape of like… do we remind you about when you intimidated that shop owner during the earthquake?
Alice: Yeah.
Bex: Yes. So the judge, takes a recess to consider whether to suppress the evidence of that. Was the evidence obtained during the illegal search by a rogue cop with a missed history of misconduct?
Alice: Oh yeah. ’cause she also didn’t have [00:56:00] time to turn her body cam on.
Ellen: Yeah. I don’t know what she, she wasn’t, ’cause she was going in there without a warrant and stuff. Did she decide? No. I’m like, I don’t, I don’t care. I don’t know why I’m bothering to defend her. Don’t. I don’t care. Care. Let’s just go on.
Alice: But yes, he certainly like points out all the reasons that Athena did the wrong thing, which she does actually have a history of doing. So, um, anyway, we go to LAX.
Bex: Yeah, we do. And specifically we go to the air traffic control tower at LAX, where they are doing air traffic controlling things. And looks like they’re doing a very good job. Everybody is calm, nobody is panicking.
Ellen: Yep.
Bex: Until a plane that is designated in their system as LTY 2 26 stops responding to radio calls and then disappears off the tr off the, um, radar screen, like completely disappears.
Alice: Didn’t need that plane anyway. It’s fine.
Bex: And then every other [00:57:00] plane, every other plane disappears off the screen as well.
Alice: Didn’t need those planes either.
Ellen: You do when you’re a traffic control person and you are in control of who’s landing.
Alice: But I should like, like I’m laughing about this, but, um, I also am the one that checks flight radar every time a plane goes overhead and I’m like, oh, what is it?
So, like, I’d also be sad if they went off the, the radar and I don’t even, like, I’m not even responsible to, for the lives on board.
Bex: Yeah. Um, but the, the supervisor. Does not panic.
Ellen: Yeah,
Bex: she’s very calm. Calm and tells every, she’s very calm. She keeps, tells everyone to keep their heads. She’s not barking out orders, but she’s giving orders, um, to ensure that somebody in the surrounding area has eyes on all of these planes, which is fine until LTY 2 26 comes back on the screen, which you would think would be a good thing, except they are not where they were [00:58:00] before.
They are now on a direct collision course with the tower and they are still unable to hail the pilot
Ellen: and they don’t have time to evacuate. And, they can’t evacuate the airport, so they, she’s just like “Brace for impact!” So they all like are climbing under their desks and, and putting their hands over their head kind of thing.
Bex: It’s stupidly, I, I mean I know that they explained this, but like that the cloud cover is low. There’s smog, there’s zero visibility, but again, they’re not looking out the window to see if there is an actual fucking plane coming at them. They’re trusting their computer.
Alice: I mean, they were trying, but the, the cloud cover’s very, very bad.
Bex: Okay. But if it’s that bad, should any plane be flying?
Alice: Well, I mean,
Bex: because the pilot wouldn’t be able to see anything either. The pilot would be flying blind and absolutely trusting in air traffic control to, to get them down.
Alice: I don’t know. I’m [00:59:00] not an air air traffic controller.
Ellen: I think they can land in folk like pretty reliably with their, you know, instruments and whatever, but still
Bex: assuming their instruments are working.
Ellen: Yeah. I mean,
Bex: and haven’t been hacked.
Ellen: I mean, that, that does not happen very often, hopefully. But in this case, they’re all bracing for impact,
Bex: which by the way, is just crawling under their desk.
Ellen: It, you know, they, yeah, they keep calling out, like “Pull up, pull up, pull up!” And then nothing happens. And finally, Nick actually looks out the window and there’s no plane and
Alice: there’s nothing. It’s nice and calm.
Bex: And one of the other air traffic controllers who was charged with calling, um, the other control centers and other, uh, air traffic control towers says that they have eyes on all of the planes. Um, they’ve all rerouted the planes away from LAX. Everything is safe, everything is fine.
Alice: Everything just chilling their hands, they’re all just chilling. We’re all good.
Bex: Yeah.
Ellen: [01:00:00] Yeah. And then everyone cheers. Um, because they all thought they were gonna die and then they didn’t. So, yay. And I just, the supervisor actually says, no reason to panic. Drink.
Alice: Yeah. No reason to panic.
Bex: Tell that to Nick.
Alice: Um, I just checked my notes about season five that I wrote originally, ’cause I hadn’t actually looked at them yet.
Ellen: Mm-hmm.
Alice: And, um, I love that I actually mentioned the fact that they fixed the fireplace when Jeffrey was hiding behind the fireplace in my original notes. Like it was like two seasons late. But to be fair, I did binge the whole show. Um, but
Ellen: you noticed that the fireplace was back, did you?
Alice: Yeah. Like I even noticed then that they smashed the fireplace up and then like this was the first time that I noticed that it was back exactly like it was.
Ellen: Yeah.
Alice: I’m very observant while watching the show clearly.
Ellen: Um, so Nick, who’s one of the other air traffic [01:01:00] control people. Uh, looks like he’s having a panic attack. He’s, he’s holding onto his chest and like, breathing heavily and then he just falls over and everyone’s like, is he okay? So
Alice: spoiler alert, he is not okay.
Ellen: He’s not okay. The 118 arrive,
Alice: um, luckily because they’re an air traffic control, someone knows CPR.
Bex: Yeah. The supervisor who has kept calm through the entire thing is doing chest compressions. Yeah. Um, and as, uh, Bobby approaches, she’s like, “Here’s all the facts. Like, this is Nick. I’m his supervisor. He’s been unconscious for eight minutes. I’ve been doing chest compressions. I can’t get a steady pulse, so at least he has one. It’s just erratic.”
Alice: Yeah. Good job. Supervisor. I don’t think you have a name, but good job.
Bex: Uh, her name is Sup
Ellen: Soup?
Bex: That’s what Nick calls her. Sup.
Alice: Oh,
Ellen: oh oh. Supervisor.
Alice: She’s supervisor.
Bex: Supervisor.
Ellen: Her name is soup.
Alice: I was definitely thinking soup as in like [01:02:00] the food and I was like, that’s
Bex: As in Campbells? No.
Alice: Yeah. And then I was like, did they just add a P on? Like, they’re like, oh, the supervisor of ni of dispatch is Sue, so we’ll just throw a P on there and I’m sure find no one will notice. And then I was like, oh, as in supervisor? Yeah. Okay, cool.
Bex: Yeah,
Alice: I got there eventually it just took me a minute,
um,
Bex: so, so the Sup moves away so that the 118 can, um, take over care for Nick. Um, and then weirdly, I think there’s, there’s something in the air at the air traffic controller because like Nick’s not panicking and then all of a sudden Eddie starts to not panic. Like there’s this, there’s this moment where it looks like he’s about to keel over as well until Chim sort of snaps him out of it.
Um, and so they get, um, they get the, the, the, the, the funny machine onto Nick,
Alice: Eddie glues [01:03:00] the wires onto him.
Bex: Maybe that’s how they
Alice: Yeah. Maybe the paramedics glue the wires onto him while he was,
Bex: maybe, anyway, so they shock Nick….
Ellen: That must be a bitch to get out of your chest hair.
Alice: It’s okay. They very helpfully put it around his chest hair. Not that I still have it up on the screen or anything.
Ellen: Oh,
Bex: maybe that’s why they didn’t put the stickers on because then it would get caught in Ryan’s chest hair and leave patches and they couldn’t risk him having patchy chest hair
Alice: and unlike Oliver, Ryan, does not shave his chest. Yeah,
Bex: maybe.
Alice: Um, anyway, yeah, so they’re, they’re all like doing, I don’t know why Eddie’s gluing the wires to him, ’cause Hen’s literally just standing around doing nothing.
Bex: Oh, she’s gawking, she’s looking at the air traffic controllers going, “Shouldn’t you all be, you know, controlling air traffic right now?”
Alice: Yeah. Like Hen’s doing nothing and judging the air traffic controllers who are also not doing anything. Um,
Bex: to be fair, all of the planes have been rerouted away from LAX. Yeah. So there’s literally nothing for them to do.
Alice: Yeah. Like of course [01:04:00] they’re not doing anything, but I don’t know what Hen’s excuse is.
Bex: So they get Nick squared away and then all of a sudden, Mike slash Rudy, one of the other air traffic controllers, he suddenly collapses.
Alice: Why is it Mike slash Rudy? Do they not know his name?
Bex: ’cause No, because this, when the supervisor was giving orders, she’s like, “blah, blah, blah, do this, blah, blah, blah, do that. Mike’s Mike, Rudy do this.” And then the camera pans to Nick and this guy. Um, and I thought this guy was possibly Mike, but no, it was Nick. So the other dude therefore by default becomes Mike slash Rudy. ’cause I don’t know which one it is.
Ellen: Oh, Mike or Rudy. Okay.
Bex: Yeah,
Alice: maybe his name’s Mike rudy.
Bex: So they get, um, Bobby gets on the radio, calls for another gurney, uh, ’cause they need to transport two victims now. And supervisor asks as they’re wheeling them out of the tower, “Are they gonna be okay?” Bobby’s like, “Yep, they’re both responsive. Vitals look good.” Somebody tells [01:05:00] Sup that the system’s rebooting and everything’s coming back to life.
Alice: Every time I hear Sup, I picture soup.
Bex: That’s what they call her. It could be worse. I downloaded the transcript and they, the, the literal, like in the transcript, it’s SUP and I thought it was sup. I’m like, yo, sup.
I dunno if that’s better or worse than soup, but, um, so the system comes back up, but the system doesn’t come back up the way that it should instead of the, like, windows 11 or whatever, they’re up to loading onto the, the monitors instead. This, um,
Alice: Sup, I have Los Angeles Center.
Bex: Um, it’s an, it’s animation of a, of a, a pokie machine, like a slot machine comes up and, uh, spinning rapidly, and then the words “you lose” show up on the screen.
And a computerized voice says “You lose, all your systems belong to [01:06:00] us. To get them back, send 25 million, click the link below.”
Alice: Yep. All your base are belong to us.
Bex: There is no link.
Ellen: Yeah, I was gonna say,
Bex: I was so expecting. Expecting all your bases are belong to us.
Alice: I’m so glad that you’re all
Ellen: Oh yeah, we’re all on the same page with that.
Alice: So many of my references are lost. And you both got I was, so this is the best day of my life. This must be what Chim feels when someone else understands his pop culture references.
Ellen: It’s because it’s the elderly internet, you know, like the, the old magic, but also the, the ransomware, like the, the little face that pops up on the thing is very Jurassic Park like, you know?
Bex: Uh, uh, uh!
Ellen: yeah, yeah, yeah. I was like, oh, I feel really old.
Bex: Well, apparently the, um, the face that popped up is also like a throwback to like an eighties hacking, um, incident.
Ellen: Right.
Bex: Um, ’cause this, I’m, I’m not gonna go into it, [01:07:00] if anyone’s interested, look up Max Headroom and specifically the Max Headroom incident. Um, apparently that’s who this guy’s face is supposed to be representative of.
Ellen: Okay. I wonder if the, um, the script originally said “all your base are belong to us.” And then they, someone they had to change it in the writer’s room didn’t understand what that meant. And they’re like, oh, okay, I guess we’ll change it.
Bex: Someone went through and someone went through and corrected the grammar and went, wait, that’s not how it’s supposed to be.
Ellen: That’s not right anymore.
Bex: Or could you imagine the writers put it in as all your bases are, like, all your systems are belong to us? And then it went to the voiceover, like ADR and they read, they read it, you correct grammar,
Ellen: the Spanish dub,
Bex: and then the writers are watching, the writers are watching the episode, and then they hear all your systems belong to us. And they went, no, that’s not how I wrote it. It ruins the joke.
Alice: That’s er ruining the joke.
Bex: Uh, but anyway, this is actually a ransomware attack because they are now holding the, um, air traffic control [01:08:00] hostage. Um, and that is apparently too much for Sup who also collapses with a not panic attack.
Alice: Rip Sup.
Bex: And so they’re gonna need another gurney.
Ellen: Yeah. So in a way it’s probably good that LAX is down because there’s no one left to control the traffic.
Alice: Yeah.
Ellen: They’re all at the hospital.
Bex: I was fully expecting at this point for there to be something in the tower that was systematically knocking everybody out.
Alice: I thought the same thing. I’m just like, is there something like happening? But no. They just did it for dramatic effect.
Bex: Like what are the odds of three people in a row, one after the other? Um, dropping with heart attacks.
Ellen: Well, I mean, air traffic control well, is a very stressful job.
Alice: Yeah. So they should be used to this shit.
Ellen: And they, and they thought they were about to die, so maybe it was just all too much.
Alice: It’s not like they were sh*t four months ago.
Ellen: Anyway, something happened.
Bex: I call, I call bullshit on it. Anyway.
Ellen: Okay. [01:09:00]
Alice: They’re just really digging it into Eddie about how not
Bex: to panic. Panic. Everybody panicking.
Alice: Yeah.
Bex: Uh, okay. So while the l, while the 118 are out at LAX, um, shit’s going down at LA County Court.
Ellen: Mm-hmm.
Bex: Um, because they are back to, the judge is about to deliver their decision on the pretrial motion. Um, except everybody’s phones. And I’m so glad that they have Athena say the line. “I thought I turned, I knew I turned this off.” Um, because nobody should have a phone in the courtroom. Like there is actually a sign later on when you see people trying to get into the court where it says no weapons and no phones.
So nobody should have a phone in the courtroom or they should all be turned off. Every single person in the courtroom has a phone and they all start buzzing and ringing and alerting.
Alice: Mm-hmm.
Bex: Um, we don’t find out why. Maybe they’re all calling 9-1-1. Who knows? [01:10:00] Um,
Alice: probably,
Bex: um. And while the judge is pissed that like everybody’s phones are going off, um, another defendant is brought up from the holding cells and the judge is like, what are you doing here? And the bailiffs are like, we’re so sorry. There was a scheduling mishap. We thought that he was due to be brought up
Alice: the computer said that he was due to be brought up.
Bex: And then two more defendants are brought up to the courtroom. Um, and so while the judge is ordering everybody to clear her courtroom, defendant number one, uh, freaks out and goes, “Nah, I’m in court. I want to hear, I want my case heard. I don’t care that you’re not my judge. I want my case heard.”
So he starts freaking out. All of the bailiffs and security guards try to go to calm him down ’cause he’s literally lunged at the judge. Uh, defendants two and three take this opportunity to make a run for it, not realizing that Athena is sitting in the gallery. So she just like steps into their path and pulls out her service gun. And they’re like,
Alice: isn’t it no phones, [01:11:00] no weapons? ’cause Athena now has a phone and a weapon, but sure.
Bex: I’m assuming that she gets special treatment ’cause she’s in like full uniform and she’s a cop.
Alice: Yeah. And she was just accused of being a dirty cop anyway.
Bex: But so, uh, they’ve managed to control defendant number one. Defendant number two and number three get, uh, scooped up by the bailiffs. They all get escorted out of the courtroom. Um, so there are no more defendants left in the class, in the courtroom, um, including Jeffrey. ’cause Jeffrey is no longer in the courtroom.
Alice: Yep. Jeffrey just bailed.
Ellen: Um, so to speak. Um, and because he’s wearing a suit to defend himself, he looks like, you know, respectable person and has hightails it out of the courtroom with, uh, out of the courthouse with no one paying him any attention.
Alice: Yeah. Where did he get the suit from?
Bex: I’m assuming his lawyer would’ve brought it for him because [01:12:00] he would’ve needed a suit when it went to trial. Eventually
Alice: the others weren’t wearing suits anyway. Um,
Bex: because this is pretrial, so it, there’s no jury pressure. Judicial not
Alice: okay. Except that was a jury there. Well, there is fans fan club.
Bex: There is fan club, which again, why I’m questioning, why do they allow, like the gallery for pretrial motions?
Alice: Regardless, the accused rapist is vanished.
Ellen: Yeah.
Bex: Yeah. So Athena and Lou go after him. They split up, Lou goes further into the courthouse in case he’s like escaped out the back. Athena goes out the front where it is absolute chaos. Traffic lights are completely non-functional. The clocks outside the front of the courthouse are spinning.
And if anybody would like to explain how hacking into the, like, LA County Courthouse slash county government traffic control affects clocks, I would love [01:13:00] to know. Um, ATMs are spinning out money left, right, and center. It’s like fountains of free money, um, which of course, everybody is scooping up and Jeffrey is taking advantage of the chaos to make a break for it.
Ellen: Mm-hmm.
Bex: Except somehow Athena manages to catch sight of a man in a dark suit. Roughly the same height as him, roughly the same hair color as him. And I was so expecting this to be a fake out for Athena to go racing after this guy and grab him and spin him around. And it’s not Jeffrey, ’cause Jeffrey’s like,
Ellen: yeah.
Bex: Um, absconded. Um, except she starts after this guy and the dickhead turns around and confirms to Athena that it is actually Jeffrey. So he goes running, she starts running, and Angela starts cursing out the, um, the script writers who made her run, because not only is she running, but she’s running in like a full LAPD belt, which [01:14:00] those fuckers are heavy once you’ve got your gun and your radio and your pepper spray and everything attached to them.
Ellen: Mm-hmm.
Bex: Um, and like the, the woman is beautiful, but she’s still like sixties, so
Ellen: Yeah. She doesn’t run far before like. Then, um, a car. Okay, this is, this is stupid. Um, there is a car that turns on and starts driving on its own, which I, I like This is what, 20?
Bex: This is, this is 2021.
Ellen: 21? Yeah.
Alice: Yeah. There were self-driving cars.
Ellen: So definitely there were self-driving cars then. Yeah. Not, not very many, but they were around.
Bex: But it’s not just that it starts driving, it’s that it mounts the footpath and makes a beeline for Athena.
Ellen: Yeah. Yeah.
Bex: Which at this point, um, Ellen, did you think, or do you think [01:15:00] that everything that’s going down with the ransomware and the hacking was to enable Jeffrey to escape?
Ellen: Um, it’s happening everywhere, not just wherever Jeffrey is. So I’m guessing at the moment that it’s not any, like he just happens to be on in this episode at the same time. So he’s taking advantage of the fact that everything is broken. But at the moment it also feels like the ransomware attacks, or the hacking in general is just geared to make like everyone as annoyed as possible.
There’s no method to anything. Like there’s no reason that they, the only demand they’ve made is the air traffic control system that we know of anyway.
Alice: And the bases,
Ellen: yes. The bases that belong to us. Um, so yeah, I mean, it’s pretty weird so far.
Bex: Okay. ’cause my, my brain is [01:16:00] still convinced that there is a connection between the two of them.
Ellen: Mm-hmm.
Bex: And I think it’s the, it’s the car mounting the footpath and going after Athena that I just cannot get over. ’cause if it, if they are two separate incidents, why did the car go after Athena? Why did it?
Alice: I thought it just hates cops.
Ellen: Yeah, no, I thought it was just a wrong place at the wrong time situation where all of the electric cars turned on in the street and, and drove in random directions.
Bex: And they all went after Athena?
Alice: Yeah. They all hate cops.
Ellen: No, she just to be running along the footpath and it jumped the… like self-driving cars don’t do that in the first place. But I mean, if it was malfunctioning, I guess maybe it would do that.
Bex: Yeah. I don’t know. My brain still wants to believe that the two of them are connected. It’s just like, ’cause every other, it just, it feels too coincidental for the two things to be happening simultaneously. And like, I know you said that it was happening everywhere, but I feel like that I’ve seen movies and TV shows where shit [01:17:00] like this happens everywhere and it’s in order that no one can pinpoint the one location that is the important one.
That like distract them, scatter them, spread their resources so they can’t focus on the area that we don’t want them to focus on.
Ellen: So you’ve seen the rest of this storyline. Are you saying we never find out if they’re connected or is that too much of a spoiler to ask at this point?
Alice: I literally have no memory
Bex: back to the maddening apartment.
Ellen: Okay. We’ll find out eventually.
Bex: Um, back to the madly apartment, Maddie has slept through this entire thing, including her lunch with Josh and that doctor’s appointment that she told Chimney that she was gonna go to.
Ellen: Whoops. Josh calls her and wakes her up.
Alice: Just rude, but okay.
Ellen: Yeah, like, I dunno what Jee’s doing.
Alice: I guess he didn’t know she was sleeping. Yeah.
Bex: Jee must be the best baby, like Jee has gone from colic baby.
Alice: Yeah. Jee’s gone from never sleeping ever to just [01:18:00] being asleep 24 7 apparently.
Bex: Or happy just to lay in her crib while her mother sleeps. So Josh is calling to cancel lunch, uh, because, um,
Alice: shit’s going down.
Bex: It’s the apo, it’s the apocalypse because cell phones become self-aware, and then the airport’s hit, and now it’s the apocalypse. So he can’t make it to lunch. So he tells her that they’ll get lunch when this thing blows over. And Maddie’s like, oh, what thing? So she decides to turn on the news, which all of the TVs in the show are automatically tuned to Channel eight.
Alice: Well, obviously, what else are we gonna watch? Only
Bex: and every single time,
Alice: Maddie’s gonna make sure that Taylor’s okay for her younger brother. So she always has it to channel eight. It also senses when Taylor’s on, and it’s just like, quick turn the TV on,
Bex: because funnily enough, Taylor’s on the TV reporting about the ransomware attack, to which Maddie goes, “Oh, well I guess your daddy’s [01:19:00] gonna be pretty busy today,” then to, to Jee, of course
Alice: not to Taylor.
Bex: Not to Taylor
Alice: Oh Taylor. Your daddy’s busy today.
Bex: Ew! No,
Ellen: Maddie, no.
Bex: Wait, wait, wait. Taylor, older or younger than Buck? I always read her as older.
Ellen: Yeah,
Alice: she older. I always read her as older too. Also, Buck does just, just does not read as a daddy to anyone?
Bex: No. No.
Ellen: Oh, that’s funny.
Bex: Eddie. Yes. Buck. No.
Alice: I mean, Eddie is a dad, so
Bex: Eddie, but he’s, he’s not a daddy, but he could Nope. Not going there. Right.
Okay. Um, now. I know that traffic in LA is bad on a good day. I [01:20:00] know that traffic, when all of the traffic systems have been knocked out and it’s chaos in the roads, that it would be even harder. But for some reason, it has taken the 118 hours to get the people from LAX to whichever hospital it is that they’re favoring.
Um, because night has fallen just in the 118 A wheeling in the air traffic controllers.
Alice: No, the cloud cover’s just real bad. Okay.
Bex: It’s literally night.
Ellen: Maybe they got ramped. They had to wait outside.
Alice: Yeah. Been ramped. They’ve, they’ve for some reason gone from LAX to the Melbourne Hospital and they’ve been ramped.
Bex: Um, and, uh, just, you know, really kick Eddie while he is down, it’s the same hospital that he was taken to, um, and,
Alice: and the same doctor’s office
Bex: and the, the cardiologist is apparently patrolling the emergency department as, um, or maybe they’ve brought them all straight up to cardiology. I don’t know. Um, but they’re all brought in and [01:21:00] Dr. Salazar is told that it’s three, um, not even three suspected MIs, but three, like confirmed MIs, and she’s like, “Oh, fuck. Uh, just put ’em anywhere. I don’t know where we’re gonna put ’em. Wait, I know you Diaz, I didn’t expect to see you so soon.” And Eddie’s like not panicking.
Ellen: Yeah.
Bex: Eddie is not panicking. And he is like, “oh, um, yeah. Hi. It’s all good.” And Buck’s like, wait and
Ellen: Buck is connecting the dots.
Bex: Like, wait, you know the doctor lady? Uh, what?
Alice: Oh God, Buck’s there like, “Eddie, are you pregnant?”
Bex: Uh, so the hospital is apparently a mess, um, because everything is run by computers. They can’t get into their, uh, prescription cases. And apparently no one has thought to, you know, use the defibrillators like they did in Grey’s Anatomy to break into them.
They are locked out of their computers, so they don’t have any charts. They have to use a stopwatch to [01:22:00] calculate IV drip rates. Um, and they are bagging patients by hand because they can’t use ventilator machines. ’cause apparently they’re connected to the wifi too.
Ellen: Oh my God.
Bex: And while all of this is going on, apparently they have a um, medevac helicopter on the way because someone’s getting a heart transplant.
Ellen: Yeah, they’re ready for the transplant, but they, they don’t have the heart, so
Bex: Yep.
Ellen: They’re 12 minutes out. Um, Bobby is trying to offer help and he’s like, “Just tell us where you want us.” And the doctor’s like “Everywhere?” Like, man, they’re good, but they’re not that good
Bex: considering it’s only five of them. Yeah. Yeah. Five plus one. Uh, the other two paramedics that were wheeling, like, there was a blonde woman this time who, who, they’re not in turnouts, so I don’t get names. So there’s another two potential hands that he could throw with them. But yeah, definitely a, a [01:23:00] bandaid, a teeny tiny little kid’s bandaid on a, like a massive bullet hole.
Ellen: Yeah.
Alice: I mean, it’s still something.
Bex: Yeah. Yeah.
Ellen: Um, so back in the courthouse, uh, Athena is breaking the news to the women who were the victims that he’s, that the, the guy’s gone. And she’s like, “Systems are out all over the city. The trains. I hear they’re even having trouble at the zoo.” I guess that giraffe is on the loose again.
Bex: No, this is like, this is the same giraffe. I think so this is a week earlier
Alice: That damn giraffe.
Bex: That’s why the giraffe is on the loose. ’cause they’re having trouble because someone hacked into the zoo’s systems.
Ellen: Yeah. Uh, anyway, he, they’re all panicking. Ha ha. A little bit.
Bex: Really?
Ellen: They’re not panicking at all. They don’t panic.
Alice: They’re not panicking. They don’t panic.
Ellen: No. Um, Athena tells them to, to not go home but stay with friends or family or something and she’ll tell them when it’s safe to go [01:24:00] home. They, they, they don’t really have any idea where he is gone.
Bex: Lou’s trying to get an idea. He’s questioning Jeffrey’s defense attorney, thinking that Jeffrey might have reached out to her or that she might have some idea of where he would go. And she’s very defensive. Like “I have no idea. He fired me, remember?” But Athena asks, walks in to the, um, to Lou’s office and to the like quasi interrogation and says, “Well, what about his fan club? Would any of them harbor him?” And she’s like, “Yeah. All of them.”
Ellen: Yeah. Any of them would,
Bex: um, and Lou’s go like, “you don’t happen to have their names and addresses, do you?” And the lawyer said, “No, but they all visited him in prison. So, um, we could check out the visitors log at Men’s Central,” which I’m guessing is on paper.
Um, because or nobody hacked the prison. ‘ [01:25:00] cause if it was electronic, then they wouldn’t be able to get access to it.
Ellen: Oh yeah.
Bex: Because all the systems are down.
Ellen: And all the, all the like inmates would be gone like, like, you know, in that like the Batman movie where they all escaped.
Bex: Oh, it’s a Criminal Minds episode too. Like one of the season finales is all of the really bad serial killers that the BAU put away all get released.
Ellen: Oh my God.
Bex: At once and the Bau have to go and catch them all over again.
Ellen: But no, apparently that doesn’t happen. So just one guy is out and not the whole of the prison system,
Alice: not all of Arkham.
Ellen: Yeah, that’s it. I was trying to think of the name of it. I’m like, it’s the, you know, the prison
Bex: so while Athena is, um, contacting the prison to get the business logs. Um, Buck and Eddie are human ventilator machines and Buck is trying to find out what was up with Eddie and the doctor. And he’s putting two and two together.
Like “She knew who [01:26:00] you were. This is a hospital, she’s a cardiologist. Did you have a heart attack?”
Alice: Good job, Buck. He’s been listening to Taylor’s investigative skills.
Ellen: Yeah. He’s like, “No, I, I’m not saying I had a heart attack. I’m saying I didn’t have a heart attack.” Buck’s like, “But did, did you think you were having a heart attack?”
Bex: Um, Chim and Hen walk up at this point they’ve obviously, because they have like medical training, they’ve been doing the more medical stuff while these two just, you know, squeeze the, the O2 back. Um, and Hen asks if they want to tag out, if Buck and Eddie want a break and Buck’s, like “Yeah. Eddie shouldn’t really be exerting himself right now.”
Glaring at Eddie. Eddie’s like.
Alice: He’s so sassy!
Bex: For fuck’s sake, Buck.
Ellen: Yeah, he’s really sassy in this episode in general, but they don’t get a chance to like. Buck doesn’t get a chance to grill him on this because, um, we have to go, uh, well, apparently they’re getting [01:27:00] ready for the, the chopper to land on the, that has the transplant heart thing.
Bex: Yeah. ’cause there’s a, there’s a, a heart coming in a helicopter. Yeah. You remember that we only like, we only heard about that two minutes ago. But you remember there was a heart coming in a helicopter. ’cause that’s really important.
Ellen: Yeah. Um, but before we can deal with that, we have to go back to, um, the, you know, the, the tense part of the episode where, um, Lou and Athena are on the road and they decide to split up to go to the different houses of the, um, fan club
Bex: because that worked out so well for Athena last time.
Alice: Yeah. Great idea. Split up. She probably turned her body cam off again too, but it’s okay. ’cause her radio will somehow get stuck open. Yeah.
Bex: Okay. So, um. Athena’s headed off to Little Tokyo. Lou’s going to Echo Park. The nurse is making her way up to the roof to meet the helicopter that’s got the heart. ’cause there’s a helicopter coming with a heart.
And that’s really important. I don’t know [01:28:00] how good quality the heart is gonna be because one of the, um, like medical personnel is fucking taking the heart out of its sterile container.
Ellen: Yeah.
Bex: And it’s like playing show and tell with it.
Ellen: Like I know you need to show us exactly what’s happening.
Bex: Oh my God.
Ellen: But we don’t need to see the heart.
Bex: Oh my God. But we know it’s,
Ellen: we know it’s a transplant.
Bex: We know it’s fucking heart. You’ve told us 5 million times already within the last two minutes that it’s a transplant for a heart that’s coming to the hospital. You do not need to show us the fucking heart.
Ellen: And they don’t, they have to keep it like cold for like, not just,
Bex: I would assume so.
Ellen: Not just the contamination of someone touching it, but like you can’t just take it out of its cool box.
Bex: No.
Alice: He is just like juggling with it, kicking it around. A dog comes and eats it. Who was that? Was that on Neighbours?
Ellen: In the meantime, while the, um, helicopter is coming in, Lou and, and Athena are separately busting into these, like, not [01:29:00] busting in, but knocking on the door and searching these women’s houses.
Alice: Oh my God. It was on One Tree Hill. I would not have, I did not remember it was on One Tree Hill. I seriously thought it was on like Neighbours or something.
Bex: What?
Ellen: What was?
Bex: Where did you go?
Alice: I said, they’re playing with the heart. They drop it at a dog, eats it, and they’re like, what was that from? And I just Googled it and it was One Tree Hill.
Ellen: Okay.
Alice: Like they drop a heart transplant in the hospital and a dog comes over and eats it and leaves.
Bex: What’s a dog doing in the operating room?
Alice: Exactly!
Bex: What the fuck?
Alice: it’s literally, I think it’s like in the waiting room, but like
Bex: And it makes its way through to the operating room?
Alice: No, no, like.
Bex: Or they’re operating in the waiting room?
Alice: they’re, they’re rushing to it and they trip over I think
Ellen: One Tree Hill isn’t a comedy, is it?
Bex: I dunno, have you seen Chad Michael Murray’s acting skills? Pretty damn funny. Uh, okay. Um, [01:30:00]
Ellen: where were we going?, okay, yes. Athena and Lou are turn up at these women’s houses and they look like they have the creepiest smiles as they show them in. And
Bex: oh, they’re so creepy. Like, one of the women even has a romantic dinner for two set up at a table. And Lou’s just looking at her going like, “Were you actually expecting him?” And she says, “Oh, I, I set the table for him every night.” Like, damn lady.
Ellen: I mean, she looks like she’s expecting, like the police, like she’s not bothered by the fact that there’s this, this guy just shown up and forced his way into her house.
Bex: Yep. So Lou’s walking through, um, the Cynthia’s apartment, clearing the rooms, making sure that Jeffrey’s not hiding there.
Um, Athena is doing, is about to do the same at the apartment in Little Tokyo, except all of a sudden the lights go out and then we [01:31:00] cut back to the helicopter. Um, and the pilot starts freaking out because as they’re approaching the hospital, he can see all of the lights in LA shutting off until it’s like pitch black
Ellen: and he can’t see the landing pad
Bex: except that he’s fucking right above the landing pad.
Ellen: Yeah. He could just,
Bex: he is literally right above, above land. All he has to do is go down.
Ellen: Yeah. Like it might be a slightly rough landing, but it would still land.
Bex: If he was still, yeah. If he was still approaching the hospital, I could understand him panicking because all of a sudden, like the illuminated landing pad that he’s aiming for is disappeared and he doesn’t have the fancy controls an airplane does. He’s literally flying with his eyes.
But the air, the helicopter is directly above the landing pad. All he has to do is go down, but he fucks that up. I don’t know why he fucks it up. The tail rotor somehow, like he goes down crooked, it hits something. Um, and I [01:32:00] don’t know what is in that helicopter again, because when he crash lands into the landing pad from like the two meters above the landing pad that he was, it shakes the whole damn hospital.
Ellen: Yeah. And somehow Hen knows that it’s the roof. Like is the emergency department on the top floor? Like how does she know that the explosions come from the roof?
Bex: How fucking heavy are helicopters that it can shake an entire multi-story building?
Ellen: Yeah.
Bex: Those things are like tin cans. They like, theoretically they shouldn’t be able to fly, and yet they do.
Ellen: I don’t know. Don’t ask questions
Alice: It’s like that thing from Bee movie where they just didn’t tell the helicopters that they couldn’t fly and so they fly anyway.
Bex: So the, so the 118 race out into the street and they look up and they discover that the helicopter pilot has severely fucked it up and the helicopter is now dangling on the edge of the building.
Ellen: Yes. So the [01:33:00] 118 decide that it’s their job to rescue this helicopter. So the generators, which they were gonna go and try and sort out, but
Bex: again,
Ellen: the generators will have to wait,
Bex: why is their job to turn the, why is it their job to do the generator? Generators
Ellen: should, ’cause they have to solve all problems apparently.
Bex: Isn’t that what maintenance is for?
Ellen: Exactly. But no.
Bex: Anyway, when they,
Ellen: when the 118 are there, it’s their responsibility
Bex: The 118 do everything. Right, so they’re about to go up and rescue this helicopter. Lou is still clearing Cynthia’s apartment.
Ellen: It wouldn’t be the first time they’ve rescued it people from a helicopter.
Bex: No, because this show is not original.
Ellen: Mm.
Bex: Um,
Ellen: anyway. Yeah.
Alice: They’re like, oh, remember that time they rescued Taylor Kelly? And remember how Taylor Kelly’s in this episode, we should do another helicopter.
Bex: Yeah. Anyway, so, uh, long story short, Jeffrey is not in either of the apartments. Um, but when Athena is talking to, uh, Stepford wife, Stepford girlfriend, crazy [01:34:00] fan girl number two, she lets slip that um, she’s basically ran, she’s ranting at Athena, says that, uh, that Jeffrey’s the true victim in this. Um, he didn’t do anything wrong. He’s blameless. It was all Athena’s fault. It was all that lawyer’s fault. That’s why he fired that bitch.
And Athena’s gone, oh shit, we are in the wrong apartments. So then we cut to the lawyer bitch. Who, like I said, has walked through after being in heels all day, has walked, has come home, walked through her entire apartment, found like her emergency, uh, lamp, and then in her heels, walked into her bathroom to run her bath. And it’s only then does she decide to take her heels off. Tim Minear, I need you to wear a pair of heels for the day.
Alice: I just need you just speak to a woman.
Bex: I need you
Alice: just, just speak to a woman.
Bex: I need you to wear a pair of heels for the [01:35:00] day and then tell me how many milliseconds after you’ve walked through the front door at the end of the day, are you kicking those things across the room? ’cause I can guarantee you that is the first thing that like, even if you are a shoes on household, if those shoes are heels, those things are fucking coming off.
First thing you walk through when you walk through the door. But that’s not the point of the scene. The point of the scene is, um, that Jeffrey was not at either of his fan girl’s apartment. He was at the lawyer’s apartment waiting for her. Um, and there’s this weird dynamic between the two of them.
Ellen: He tells her to put her shoes back on, um, and he thanks her for sucking because, which out of context sounds kind of rude.
Alice: Jesus Christ.
Bex: No, because,
Alice: Also the poor woman just took those shoes off.
Bex: Yes.
Alice: And now he’s like, put your shoes back on. And she’s like, no, I just took them off. Fucking Tim made me wear them all through the house.
Bex: No, because when he said put the heels back on, I thought it [01:36:00] was gonna be like, he’s got this weird foot fetish, high heel sex thing. Yeah.
Ellen: Yeah.
Bex: And then you say, you know, thank you for sucking. And I’m just like, oh, wow.
Ellen: But no, the point was that she gave him terrible advice and he fired her. And that means that he get, he got free, so yay, yay for
Bex: yes,
Ellen: being terrible at her job.
Bex: Um, but instead of raping and her killing her, he instead, um, takes her, I’m assuming, as hostage, but she doesn’t look too panicked about the whole thing. Like she doesn’t seem, as I, I know that there is no correct way to react to an emergency. Everyone reacts differently, everyone, but she doesn’t look afraid of him.
Ellen: That’s because she’s not.
Bex: Well, yes, I know that now
Ellen: as we find out later,
Bex: but at the ti, the first, like, every time I start watching this scene, I’m like, ma’am, you, what is going on with you?
Ellen: You’re right. She doesn’t look anywhere near as bothered as she probably could. [01:37:00] Yeah.
Bex: Yes. So they are going there, he’s going to take their, her cash.
They are just going to go on the run. They’re gonna go on the run together. Um, they walk, Lila, who is that bitch lawyer’s name, uh, walks out the front door. Jeffrey goes to follow her and immediately gets jumped by Lou. Um, because Athena’s very, I mean, you could say correctly, but it kind of sucks for Lou that she called him and said, I think Jeffrey’s gone to Layla’s house, and I’m guessing that Lou was closest.
So he got there first. I mean, I say that it sucks for him because he thinks he’s done a great thing. He’s arrested Jeffrey, he’s got him back in custody. You know, they’re all gonna live happily ever after. Um, there’s this wonderful slowmo where he’s shoving Jeffrey back in the car and he’s calling Athena, and like, “I got him. It’s all [01:38:00] good. Jeffrey’s big adventure is done. He’s going back to lock up. It’s all over.”
And then as Lou is taking a moment to gloat, somebody appears behind Lou and slits his throat.
Ellen: Oh, this, I, I was shocked by this. I was,
Alice: so was I
Ellen: I was not expecting that.
Bex: So was Jeffrey.
Ellen: Yeah,
Bex: because he, Lou collapses to the ground and Jeffrey looks out the window at Lila.
Ellen: He looks delighted. And I was like, no, not Lou. I liked him.
Bex: And that’s where the episode ends.
Ellen: Well, Athena calls the, the, the victim, one of the victims to tell her that you can go home now because it’s all over.
Bex: Oops.
Ellen: Um, turns out it’s not over.
Alice: It is not at all over.
Ellen: It’s very not over.
Bex: Nobody knows that because fun thing about having a throat slit, it’s really hard to talk on a phone.
Ellen: [01:39:00] Yes.
Bex: Because, you know, you’re, he’s actively bleeding out and she’s probably severed his vocal cords at the same time, so,
Ellen: ouch.
Bex: Nobody knows that it’s not over, but we will have to wait till next week to find out how not over it is
Ellen: and,
Bex: and whether do we get to see the damn animals again.
Ellen: Yeah. I was gonna say next week we can find out what’s going on with the animals I guess.
Bex: That’s what I’m more interested in
Ellen: and where all the people have gone.
Bex: Yeah. I dunno, maybe the ransomware turns into the zombie apocalypse.
Ellen: Maybe. I mean, there were parts of the episode that were great like this. Like even though there were parts of this kind of tracking down Jeffrey scene that were annoying, it was ex it was, it had a lot of tension. It was exciting to watch,
Bex: like I said, well written.
Ellen: Yeah.
Bex: Good storytelling. Just didn’t like the story.
Ellen: Yeah.
Alice: Look, that’s, i, I must say, when you just wander off through most of the court stuff, it’s actually not too [01:40:00] bad.
Bex: I, I did, I did mention this before we started recording, and, and I’ll, I’ll go on the record that I fear that I am judging this episode by the entire, like, season opening arc. So this episode is being damned by episode two and three.
Alice: Yeah, I don’t remember episode two and three. What I do remember is the fucking season nine opening.
Ellen: That’s a long way off,
Bex: but that’s, that’s not, but that’s, that’s like a, at this rate, it’s maybe 2020 sevens episode.
Ellen: Oh God.
Bex: Um, so I, I, I don’t know whether I did dislike this episode or whether, um, just because I know where the stories in this episode are going, and I hate them so much that I’m prejudging this episode. So take everything I said with like a massive salt block, like not just a grain, one of those massive blocks that they put out for horses.[01:41:00]
Ellen: Yeah. Yeah. Well, I mean, as season openers go, it was a little bit underwhelming, to be honest. Like compared with other ones we’ve had, we’ve had four.
Alice: It definitely wasn’t a tsunami. Yeah.
Ellen: Yeah.
Bex: To be fair, even like the tsunami and the mudslide, the first episode set up the emergency, so even the tsunami we had to get through, the kids are all right. Or “Kids These Days”, whatever the hell that fucking episode was.
Ellen: That’s true. Yeah.
Bex: Before we got to the tsunami, and the same with the mudslide. We had to get through, the damn dam is falling and then we got the mudslide.
Ellen: Mm-hmm.
Bex: Um, so I’m not mad at the fact that they took an entire episode to set up what the actual emergency is, but I am a little bit pissed that it’s the end of the episode and I still don’t really know what the big emergency’s gonna be. Is it just the ransomware attack?
Ellen: Yeah.
Bex: Is that what the emergency is?
Ellen: Well, they did, they did a lot of setting up in this episode. I guess we don’t really see [01:42:00] like the end game. I guess we don’t, we don’t know what’s happening, so,
Bex: but at least with the other, um, episodes where the, the first episode was setting up the, the emergency. You had that little snippet at the end where you’re like, oh shit, there’s a giant wave coming, or, oh shit, the.
Ellen: There’s an earthquake.
Bex: The side of the mountain has collapsed.
Ellen: Yeah.
Bex: So are you telling me like, oh shit, Jeffrey’s escaped. That’s the emergency that we have to deal with for season five, because that’s not what I signed up for. I signed up for tsunamis and mudslides and earthquakes. I, if I wanted to watch a serial rapist at large, I’d go watch the Criminal Minds.
Ellen: Yeah. Yeah. Alright, well, what, what’s, what does the next episode have in store?
Bex: The 118 springs into action when a citywide blackout and a record heatwave… heatwave? Where the fuck did the heatwave come from?
Alice: Where the heatwave come from?
Ellen: Have not been aware that it’s been hot in during this one, this first episode. Oh,
Alice: [01:43:00] I mean, it is LA so I guess,
Bex: but, so the blackout is related to the heat wave and not the ransomware attack. I guess we’ll find out next week. Um, the 118 springs into action when a citywide blackout and record heat wave causes mayhem in Los Angeles.
’cause you know, may Los Angeles have been quite calm and cool and collected up until this point. Um, meanwhile, Chimney, I love that I’m just like adding in commentary to the summaries now.
Ellen: I mean you can rip it to shreds. It’s fine.
Bex: Um, meanwhile, Chimney confides in Hen about Maddie’s condition and Athena’s worst nightmare comes true.
Ellen: We already knew that was happening.
Bex: Uh, the next episode is called “Desperate Times”. And such triggers include, um, child at threat, a child on a ventilator, uh, discussions of police violence and abuse of power. I’m surprised we don’t just have the generic “cops” tag, um, gore from an animal [01:44:00] attack, which,
Ellen: oh, the animals are coming back.
Bex: Oh yeah. Okay. Helicopter crash. Panic attack, not panic attack, not heart attack, um, and postpartum depression. I don’t know if I’m looking forward to this, but
Alice: yeah, I don’t remember it. So
Ellen: maybe it’ll be just be an unmemorable episode two.
Alice: I just don’t remember much of season five. I don’t know what I was doing during it. I didn’t remember a lot of this episode and I just watched it two minutes before we started recording, so I don’t fucking know.
Ellen: You were binging it fast by the time you got to season five, I’m pretty sure.
Alice: Yeah, I think I just went straight from season four to season six and was like, oh, this is terrible.
Bex: So welcome to That WeeWoo Show where both Alice and Ellen are watching this season for the first time, and I’m the only one who has any idea of what the fuck is going on.
Alice: I mean, I gotta say it is nice watching it, the episodes one by one, like week by week, because I did binge them so fast when I originally watched them that I’m like, I don’t know what’s going on.
Ellen: [01:45:00] Yeah. Well I guess at this point we can say that, um, if there, if episodes that are coming up, there are some of them that I am guessing that, um, Bex and Alice both don’t like, uh, would you like us to fast forward through the scenes that we don’t like or shall we discuss everything,
Bex: or do you want to continue to listen to me rant and rave about how terrible the storylines and the writing or the acting is? ’cause I’m quite happy to do it.
Alice: At this point we’re gonna go, we’re gonna get to like midway through season five and then just skip to halfway through season seven.
Ellen: Well, I mean, I just, I, I don’t want us to get too negative. That’s all.
Bex: There are, are some episodes and season six that are good.
Ellen: No, I, I knew there’d be some bright spots in there somewhere, but just finding them is the hard part.
Bex: Yeah.
Ellen: All right. Well we’re in season five now. Um, we’re in the end game now. No, not quite the end game.
Bex: Not quite the end game. ’cause they still keep making damn [01:46:00] episodes.
Ellen: Yes, exactly. We’ll never reach the end.
Bex: I can’t even say we’re halfway through the season. ’cause like for all I know, Tim’s gonna do season 10.
Ellen: Well, they might make it all the way to season 15, like a certain other show that we know.
Bex: Oh fuck no.
Alice: Jesus Christ.
Bex: No, no, Tim, no. Please stop at 10. Please stop at 10.
Alice: We’re not saying we want the show to end, but we just don’t want season 15 to happen.
Bex: Please just go and play with your little blorbos in Nashville. Just please.
Ellen: Alright, well let us know what you thought about this episode. Did you like, honestly we, you can tell us exactly what you thought. That’s fine. Leave us a comment directly on Spotify or on this episode’s post, on thatweewooshow.com. Uh, you can let us know on social media too, if you’d like to.
Thank you for listening this week, and we’ll talk to you next time about Season five, episode two “Desperate Times”. See you then.
Bex: Bye.
Alice: Bye.
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[outtake]
Alice: Also, Ellen, if you hear chewing in this part of the track, it’s because I realized I was feeding Autumn and didn’t have my mic muted.
Ellen: Oh.
Alice: So, um, I swear it’s not me eating, it’s Autumn eating anchovies.
Ellen: Okay.
Alice: Are they good? They yum?
Bex: Fishy.
Ellen: I’ll have chewing on your track and I’ll have like thunder rumbling in the back of my track. It’s, it’s gonna be a great episode to edit.
Alice: I got a whole bunch of, um, treats from Dog Lover’s show, and I didn’t want to give them too [01:48:00] many to Autumn before the show, in case she got an upset stomach from them. Like, she’s pretty good, but just in case. Yeah. Um, and so I was just sitting here eating a biscuit and she was watching me and I was like, oh, you can have this and this.
And then I was like, oh, my mic is not muted. So she’s just like, (eating sounds) she even got some horse,
Ellen: horse?
Alice: Horse.
Bex: Okay.
Alice: Of course,
Bex: as in Phar Lap?
Alice: Yep. Well, probably not Phar Lap himself. He’s stuffed at the museum, but, um,
Bex: yeah, no, I was just making sure that I had the, I heard the animal correctly. I, I mean,
Alice: yep.
Bex: I guess they get turned into dog food, so why not?
Alice: Yeah.
Bex: Yeah. Okay. Um,
Alice: this one?
Bex: So while, um, Autumn makes her way through the animal kingdom as an apex predator. Um,
Alice: she’s helping with the zoo. Okay?
Ellen: She’s got some giraffe next.
Alice: Hang on, hang on, hang [01:49:00] on.
Ellen: What?
Bex: Don’t hear anything. (crunching sounds) No. Your mic might be picking it up, but Discord’s muting it.
Ellen: No Discord’s blocking all of that out.
Bex: Yeah.
Alice: Damn. It’s definitely on, um, on the Audacity track. So Ellen’s going to have a great time.
Ellen: I’ll look forward to hearing that later.
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