Welcome to That Weewoo Show: a podcast where Bex, Alice and Ellen watch and discuss every episode of ABC’s TV show, 9-1-1.
In this episode we discuss episode 5 of the fifth season of 9-1-1, titled “Peer Pressure”.
The 118 face an awkward rescue call when a man over-exerts himself exercising, and race to an explosion at a retirement community. Hen and Eddie, as well as Buck and Ravi, have rocky starts to their new partnerships.
Content warnings for episode 5.05:
body dysmorphia, bullying/hazing, child abuse, depression, PTSD/childhood PTSD, gore (chainsaw in the neck) meth lab explosion, retirement home, self-isolation, suicide attempt via pills, therapy, unintentional self-harm/temporary disability in bathroom, weight loss/fitness talk.
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Episode Transcript
Maddie: [00:00:00] 9-1-1. What’s your emergency?
Ellen: Welcome back to That WeeWoo Show, a podcast where we watch and discuss episodes of the A B, C show, 9-1-1. I’m Ellen.
Alice: I’m Alice.
Bex: And I’m Bex.
Ellen: Thanks to everyone who’s been listening to our season five episodes. We are up to episode five already. I it’s, it’s going quite quickly, even though this,
Bex: it doesn’t feel like it.
Ellen: Hasn’t been… yeah. Yeah. It feels like it’s been a long time. But, um, no, this, but before we get into it, we, we need to say a very special thank you to everybody where we have featured in their, um, Spotify wrapped this week. That’s so exciting.
Bex: It’s Spotify wrapped season!
Alice: Yay. So excited!
Ellen: We got into December. Um, thank you. We, I think we had like.
Oh, now I’ve forgotten the numbers. Like a certain number of [00:01:00] top fans and a bunch of people have posted their top fan status and it’s like, oh my God. How cool.
Bex: We were the number one podcast for 26 people on Spotify.
Ellen: Yes. Twenty-six!
Bex: And we were the top five show for 104 people.
Ellen: That’s so cool. That’s
Bex: including me. I was, I was one of those 103 plus me.
Ellen: That’s amazing.
Alice: That’s great.
Ellen: Um, yeah, big thank you to everybody for listening and getting us up there. ’cause we’ve, yeah, we had some pretty good results this year, so. Great. Excellent. Let’s keep going. Um, so we are up to episode five of season five, um, which aired on the, on the 18th of October in 2021.
But before we start talking about that, Alice, do you wanna let us know what happened last time?
Alice: Yeah, so last week on 9-1-1 Chimney after punching Buck left [00:02:00] to find Maddie, after she fled him and their daughter, Harry struggled to deal with his kidnapping experience and made butted heads with a returning dispatcher.
And that’s pretty much what happened this week. This is,
Bex: that’s literally all that happened last week.
Alice: Yeah. And this, that’s pretty much the same as this week. We don’t need to do the podcast now. That’s, that’s it. That’s the episode.
Ellen: Literally. Yeah.
Bex: Well, the summary tells a different story. The summary is quite expansive as to what happened this week. Um, I, in fact, I think we just, but
Ellen: we don’t need to talk about it. We need to do the summary
Bex: and go. Okay. That’s it. Goodnight. Um, so according to the official, so the official summary, uh, tells us that this week the members of the 118 face an awkward rescue when they arrive on the scene of a man who has overexerted himself while exercising.
The team must also save the life of a groundskeeper whose chainsaw cut into him and raced to an explosion at retirement community. Meanwhile, Athena has an extreme reaction to Harry’s new behavior. [00:03:00] Then Hen and Eddie, as well as Buck and Ravi, have rocky starts to their new partnerships and May receives an emergency call from a suicidal teen while continuing her uneasy work relationship with Claudette.
Ellen: Wow.
Bex: And that is literally everything that happened in this episode.
Ellen: Yeah.
Alice: Yeah. That’s, that’s it. Yep.
Bex: Uh, quick triggers, although it’s, it’s not quick. ’cause as expansive as that summary is, the trigger list is also quite expansive. Um, so triggers for body dysmorphia, bullying slash hazing, although I’m just going bullying, uh, child abuse, depression, PTSD slash childhood PTSD, uh, my personal favorite, gore, being chainsaw on the neck, although it’s not quite as gory as we’ve seen. I actually think that, the, the stake in the guy’s stomach was more gory than the chainsaw, but that’s just my personal
Ellen: Oh yeah.
Bex: Um, we have a meth [00:04:00] lab explosion.
Ellen: There’s a lot more blood.
Bex: Well, that’s, that’s kind of what I think of when I think of gore. I want like spurting blood and viscera. Um, yeah. And that’s what we get there. Mm-hmm. Um, meth lab explosion Retirement home is a trigger in and of itself. Um, self-isolation, suicide attempt via pills, uh, therapy. Um, unintentional self-harm slash temporary disability in bathroom. Oh, Craig. Right. Um, and weight loss slash fish fitness talk.
Ellen: So that, that’s it. Let us know what you thought of this episode. Oh, now we better actually do it. Okay.
Alice: As you can tell, we’re very excited about this episode.
Bex: You know what, I like this episode. I like Buck Storyline in this episode. ’cause I think it’s a very Buck storyline.
Ellen: Mm-hmm.
Alice: Yeah.
Bex: Um, I don’t like anything else about this episode, but I like Buck in this episode [00:05:00] and that’s who we start with. Um, funnily enough,
Ellen: Oh yeah. Taylor is there. Yes. At Buck’s place
Bex: so it looks like Taylor had a sleepover. Um, and I think she’s, looks like she’s getting ready to go for a run. If I’m reading the, the staging correctly and Buck is sulking because Chimney is not texting him back to the point where he’s texting Buck to say, stop texting me. And the
Alice: Yeah.
Bex: And the RSD is hitting Buck hard ’cause he’s gone from Chim is not texting me back to, uh, nobody is speaking to me.
Ellen: Oh yeah,
Alice: poor baby. He’s not doing great.
Ellen: He’s, he’s fully, he’s going on like actual paranoid kind of almost like,
Bex: but that’s how it goes
Ellen: because one person’s not. Not talking to him. Yeah. He’s suddenly, no one likes him [00:06:00] anymore.
Alice: Yeah. He’s spiraling bad, the poor thing.
Bex: And Taylor tries to explain to him that, um, quite, quite rightly, he doesn’t know what’s going on in other people’s heads. And she gives him this anecdote about, um, a former boss who Taylor thought absolutely hated her. Um, it turns out she just had gallstones and she was in pain the entire time that Taylor knew her.
Um, and I presume that once she got the gallstones removed, she had a complete personality change and everything was fine. Um,
Ellen: yeah.
Bex: But the, the moral of her story is not everything is about you, but that’s not how ADHD brains work.
Alice: No.
Bex: And that’s not how Buck’s brain is working right now.
Ellen: Um, and funnily enough, as soon as she says not everything is about you, then we get the voiceover from the this ad that says, “Narcissus. It’s all about you.” and this is a, like an ad for a fitness, [00:07:00] um, app, I guess. Like, I don’t know, it is like a mirror that is a TV or,
Bex: yeah, it’s a, it’s a mirror that is also a screen that’s hooked up to an app. So instead of watching the video on your, it’s a fitness, it’s a fitness trainer, but rather than watching the video on your phone, you’re watching it in a mirror, which I guess is why it’s like, it’s weird.
Which is why it’s Narcissus ’cause it’s a mirror. But basically we, we meet Craig who starts getting stalked by this, um, Narcissus fitness app. Very much the targeted programming.
Ellen: Oh yeah. His algorithms got him hard.
Bex: But it’s not just like the algorithm on his phone. It’s the algorithm of life. It’s like to the point where he walks outside with a carrying pizza boxes and all he sees are billboards and moving advertisements for Narcissus.
Ellen: Yeah. It’s really weird. ’cause he, he’s a bit, he’s a slob anyway. He is got like trash all over his room
Alice: He’s eating the best looking cereal ever out of the biggest bowl in the world. [00:08:00]
Ellen: Oh yeah. Um, it looks like fruit loops.
Alice: Yeah. But like better. Maybe it’s just ’cause I haven’t had sugar in a few months. Um, but
Ellen: American Fruit Loops are probably like twice as sugary as Australian ones.
Alice: Yeah. Um, when, when we were watching, um, The Block, like me and my dad were watching the block. And then we went out somewhere and there was like the, ’cause the block’s very heavy on sponsorships. Like, they’re like, oh look, this is my blah, blah, blah sunroof. And it’s just like, okay, yeah, we get it. Um, but one of the companies that’s on the block a lot is like EMS trading or whatever it is.
And we passed, like we went out one day and passed EMS trading and I was like, man, this Block marketing is just like getting way too
Ellen: into real life.
Alice: Yeah. Getting way too intense. But this is, that’s actually what’s happening here. Like, there’s billboards, it’s on buses, like, it’s so bad.
Bex: So eventually Craig gives in and [00:09:00] he purchases the Narcissus mirror and app and he sets it up and he’s ready to go and he starts his first workout. And it, it’s not going well, you know, ’cause it looks like he’s, he’s not the kind of, it doesn’t look like the kind of person who does a lot of exercise. Um, and he’s struggling to do the squats. He’s struggling to do the pushups. Um, and then the, the program says, okay, now we’re gonna do sit-ups. And he’s like, finally something I can do.
Alice: Apparently he’s real into sit-ups.
Bex: Yeah, because he keeps going. Even after the app tells him it’s time to cool down, he is like, nah, no, I’m gonna keep doing, keep going.
Ellen: Yeah. He keeps going until his, like, at first I was like, okay, he’s gone so hard that he’s like, hurt something in his stomach. ’cause he’s like, he sits up and then he kind of holds it, but then he actually runs to the bathroom and needs to poop? I dunno.
Alice: Yeah, literally just like, [00:10:00]
Bex: I, I got the idea that like he’d sat up and he’d compressed his stomach so much that it moved everything straight into his bowels. And now he suddenly had the very intense, no need to poop. I don’t know. But yes, he races to the toilet. And thankfully he’s, he’s scrolling on his phone for a little bit, thankfully he has his phone nearby.
Um, and he puts his phone down so that he can grab toilet paper to wipe, um, except the toilet paper is not on the holder where it’s supposed to be. It’s like there’s an empty roll on the holder and the new toilet paper’s just sitting on top. Um, so he knocks that off. The, let the little toilet holder roll that it’s precariously perched on.
Um, leans fully forward to grab the roll and then sits up and you hear this audible cracking sound. And then Craig just collapses like a puppet whose strings have been cut.
Ellen: I don’t [00:11:00] know, like, I’m scared to actually look this up on Google because who knows what you find, but like, I don’t know if this is realistic?
Like, anyway, he, he can’t move. He’s stuck on the toilet. Hen says he’s got, um, a compressed nerve in pinch his in his neck or something.
Bex: I think the compressed nerves are probably realistic. I think the, um, the cracking sound was just as a cue to the audience that something has gone wrong. I don’t think the cracking noise is actually what would happen in your back
Ellen: anyway. It’s kind of terrifying. And now I never wanna do sit ups again.
Bex: Just
Ellen: not that I did many sit ups to start with
Bex: when the app tells you to stop, just stop when the app tells you to stop.
Ellen: Yeah.
Bex: Um, but because he, he was doom scrolling on his phone, his phone is within reach, so he’s able to call 9-1-1 and the 118 have been dispatched
Alice: because of course [00:12:00] they have.
Bex: Um, and in Chimney’s absence we have a slight rearranging of the, the partnerships within the teams. So, um, Hen is with Eddie. And Buck is with Ravi, who has been promoted to like, full-time A team.
Ellen: Yay, Ravi.
Alice: Lucky Ravi.
Ellen: And so, um, Buck is like fully info dumping at every opportunity in this episode because,
Bex: but it’s not info dumping. He’s training Ravi.
Alice: He is, yeah. He’s just in teacher mode.
Ellen: But like forcibly, like he’s, it’s not normal,
Alice: whether Ravi likes it or not. He’s getting, um,
Ellen: he’s getting taught,
Alice: he’s getting trained.
Bex: Yes. Uh, and yes, you’re right. It’s not normal because both Hen and Eddie give him the weirdest look when instead of just using the, the ram to open the door, he’s taken the time to tell Ravi, this is [00:13:00] why we, the reason why we’re using the ram and not just like sawing the hinges off the front door is because the hinges are on the inside of front doors for security reasons. So we’re gonna need to use the ram. And then
Ellen: mm-hmm.
Bex: Even more surprisingly, he actually lets Ravi take first swing.
Ellen: Ravi
Bex: and Ravi is so excited.
Ellen: is so excited. He’s just so happy. He’s like, okay. Um, and they did it. He did it. He just bus busted it open.
Bex: Mm-hmm.
Ellen: And they go inside and they’re calling for Craig. They find him on the toilet, which is right. They can see it from the front door. Like, I don’t know how this apartment works, but they just turn and he’s right there on the toilet. Yeah. You like the door open.
Bex: You come in the front, you come in the front door and apparently there is the living dining area and then it’s a straight shoot straight to the bathroom.
Ellen: I mean, if I’m at home alone, I don’t shut the bathroom door either, but so that part’s fine.
Alice: Yeah, true.
Ellen: But, but it’s weird that you can [00:14:00] see all the way into the bathroom from the front door.
Bex: I mean, it’s useful for Craig because he’s able to just like say, help me and they can immediately see where he is.
Um, so which they do, they find him Hen and Eddie immediately, uh, head into the bathroom, um, to assess the situation. Um, Hen has taken lead and she tells Craig that they’re going to sit him up so that he can breathe a little bit easier. ’cause obviously being slumped over on his knees is gonna be restricting his lung capacity.
So Eddie, hearing Hen say, we’re gonna sit you up, immediately moves into position to lift Craig up. Unfortunately, he moves to the same position that Hen moves to, and they’re sort of bumping into each other and stepping on each other’s toes.
Alice: Yeah, it’s very awkward.
Bex: Uh, it’s incredibly awkward.
Ellen: And just like, uh, what are you doing? Like, obviously she and Chim have got this, the system worked out. They’ve been working together for [00:15:00] so long.
Bex: Yes.
Ellen: But Eddie’s just kind of getting in the way all the time. And, uh,
Bex: which is kind of, which is the, the point of this episode for those two, it’s the learning to to work together as a partnership, because obviously they’ve worked together as a, a whole unit before, but now this is Eddie slipping into Chim’s role and he is not quite well actually slipping into Hen’s role.
And then Hen’s been bumped up into Chim’s role. I don’t know. But they’re not used to working together like this.
Ellen: Mm-hmm.
Bex: And it’s, uh, it’s, there’s some growing pains.
Ellen: Um, Buck is looking at the front door and Ravi’s efforts at busting the door down. And he says, “Nice swing. I have some notes.” Thought you were gonna say you liked it.
Bex: Ravi. Ravi goes through the whole emotions. It’s like nice swing. And Ravi like, lights up and then Buck’s. Like, I’ve got notes and Ravi’s like, ah, and everything just slumps.
Alice: Poor Ravi.
Ellen: He’s [00:16:00] so adorable. Ravi. He’s like a little puppy.
Alice: He is.
Bex: So Hen and Eddie are working on Craig. Hen says that she’s going to test his nerve response, which apparently is like squeezing around his rib cage. I don’t know. And she asks if he feels any pressure and Craig immediately goes off on a rant. Like, “so much pressure. I just wanted to get fit like everybody else.” Um, and Hen and Eddie look at each other and Hen’s like, “uh, no, like pressure from my touch.”
Alice: Yeah. Can, can you just feel me squeezing your ribs, mate? Like, what the fuck are you on about?
Bex: Um, I’m gonna take this opportunity to complain about the title of this episode because I don’t think it fits. So the title of this episode is “Peer Pressure”.
Ellen: Mm-hmm.
Bex: We do not see any peer pressure in this episode. Like maybe, maybe you could argue that Lisa, who is like the teen that calls later on, maybe you could [00:17:00] argue there’s some peer pressure going on there, but none of the adults in the episode have peer pressure and I really feel like they just called it peer pressure because they couldn’t call it “under pressure”. ’cause they’ve already used that episode.
Alice: They already did that. Yeah. Yeah.
Bex: And they didn’t just wanna call it “pressure”. Um, so they’ve gone what’s another like snappy title we can use? I know, “Peer Pressure”, but didn’t stop to think that they, it’s not reflective of what it’s actually going on in the episode.
Anyway, that’s my mini soapbox.
Alice: I was trying to work out, yeah, what the hell? It had to do with anything and Yeah. Yeah. I couldn’t work it out.
Bex: It doesn’t, it’s pressure. Yes, but not peer pressure. I mean, you could kind of argue that, um, Claudette and Buck are putting pressure on Ravi and May, but that’s not what peer pressure is.
Alice: Yeah.
Bex: Peer pressure is like you’re pressuring people into doing something they don’t wanna do, and that’s not what’s going on with either of those.
Alice: Yeah. It’s [00:18:00] weird.
Ellen: Hmm.
Bex: Anyway,
Ellen: I’ve just realized also that in, in the notes you’ve, um, I just realized I was too far up in the notes and I scrolled down and saw the face that Bobby making screenshot that you’ve put in there because when, when Hen tells Eddie,
Alice: oh, it so’s funny.
Ellen: that he’s in the way, um, Eddie kind of moves back and holds his hands up and looks at Bobby, who gives him this funniest look like, whoa.
Alice: Bobby is funny. Bobby’s great in this episode. Like, he’s not even in it much, but like when he is, he’s just like, what the fuck is wrong with everyone?
Ellen: Yeah.
Bex: Everyone else has lost their goddamn minds.
Ellen: No peer pressure for him or anyone, in fact. Um, okay, so he asked Craig about if he’s been working out a lot or if this is something new, and Craig explains about the Narcissus thing so they realize that the, it’s an exercise mirror that’s called [00:19:00] Narcissus, that’s, Hen’s like, “Feels like someone didn’t read to the end of that story.”
And then I was like, what happened at the end of the story? Like
Bex: he drowns.
Alice: I was gonna say, I,
Ellen: okay.
Alice: I’m pretty sure he dies.
Ellen: I thought he just turned in, he turned into the flower. Narcissus flower.
Bex: No, but he had,
Ellen: did he have to die first before he turned into a flower?
Bex: Well, the, the whole myth is that he was in love with himself and he would look at his reflection in the, the water.
Um, yeah. And he so, so, so, so in love with himself, and he wanted to get so close to himself or to his reflection that he like put his head in the water and he drowned.
Ellen: Okay. The Wikipedia page I looked at didn’t tell me about that part. That’s weird.
Alice: It, it’s Greek, right? I’m just looking it up.
Bex: Yes.
Alice: Yeah, yeah. It’s Greek.
Ellen: It’s Greek.
Alice: Everyone dies in Greek mythology, so I just assume that he died.
Ellen: They either die or they like sleep with everyone.
Alice: Yeah.
Bex: Well, yes.
Ellen: There’s only two, two ways Greek stories can go.
Bex: Correct me if I’m wrong, but my [00:20:00] memory is that he, he drowns because he’s trying to get so close to,
Alice: apparently he falls in love with his own reflection in a pool of water.
Bex: Mm-hmm.
Ellen: Yeah.
Alice: Rejects the advances of all women and men who approach him, and in some versions beats his breast purple in agony at being kept apart from this reflected love.
Ellen: Yeah. It doesn’t say anything about drowning. Right.
Alice: Flower. Also, the photo in Wikipedia is him very naked and I wasn’t expecting that.
Ellen: Um, you weren’t expecting to see penis on the internet today?
Alice: No. I like, I watched Heated Rivalry yesterday, so I am very
Ellen: Isn’t that just butts?
Alice: Oh no. Um,
Ellen: oh, okay. Okay. I look forward to that, but okay. Okay. Anyway,
Alice: maybe Bex is thinking of Ophelia because Ophelia drowns.
Bex: No, I’m not thinking
Alice: that’s Shakespeare, not.
Bex: of Ophelia, hang on. I’m in Reddit. [00:21:00]
Alice: We are very busy.
Ellen: Pause while we work out Greek mythology. Okay.
Bex: Yeah, I think it’s just, um, what’s that thing where. It, it’s just like a collective delusion. There’s like a group of us who all remember that Narcissus drowned, but
Ellen: Oh, like the Mandela effect.
Bex: Yeah, exactly. It’s a Mandela effect is that Narcissus drowned anyway. Yes. Um, he’s,
Ellen: I mean, it makes sense if you, yeah, yeah. Anyway,
Bex: anyway, um,
Ellen: good rewrite, good head canon.
Bex: Yes. Buck instructing Ravi on the proper way to return the battering ram to the compartment for maximum efficiency.
Ellen: He keeps calling him Probie all the time and I’m just,
Alice: yeah, he just gets called Probie, not,
Ellen: he’s so mean.
Alice: He doesn’t have a name.
Bex: Um, but what I love is that like Buck is taking this so seriously and he’s like demonstrating how to put the ram in so that you can efficiently pull it back out again. [00:22:00] Meanwhile, Ravi is thrilled because the B shift guys never let him play with the gurney. And he has one of the fancy motorized gurneys in front of him, and he’s pressing all the buttons.
Alice: He’s literally playing with it like, Ravi, it’s not a toy.
Ellen: He’s absolutely like a little kid with it,
Bex: to the point where Buck, um, like the sigh of exasperation and the way he slams the compartment shut. I, that is such a parent with a small child.
Ellen: Yeah.
Bex: So he puts the, he says “Probie, I told you to stop playing with it.” And just as he reaches Ravi, Ravi’s done something, he’s pressed some combination buttons and the, um, the gurney has folded completely in half.
Ellen: It’s, I don’t even, like, why does it even do that? It just feels like that’s quite dangerous.
Bex: I feel it’s,
Ellen: if there’s someone on it?
Bex: I feel it’s a, it’s like a combination [00:23:00] of the, the, the lifting of the head so that you can elevate the head and then the elevating of the legs and then he’s just done something that’s like max elevation for both of them.
Yeah. I dunno. But it’s hilarious. Um, unfortunately they did need that gurney.
Ellen: He’s like, I didn’t even know it could do that
Bex: for Craig. Um, but I will give Buck props because he’s staring at this gurney that’s now to folded itself like a taco and Bobby comes over the radio. It’s like, “we need that gurney” and Buck’s just like, “uh, we are gonna bring you the stair chair instead.” Like, could have had the opportunity to throw Ravi under the bus, but he doesn’t.
Ellen: Yeah.
Alice: Yet.
Ellen: Meanwhile Hen is giving, is like trying to work out why Craig did 300 sit-ups in a row. And um, Craig’s like, “is that too much?” It’s like, how did you even do 300 sit-ups in a row?
They can’t have [00:24:00] been very good sit ups. Um, but anyway, no. He has a severely pinched nerve in his neck, which has caused his body to spasm and freeze. Oh, that sounds horrible. Exercise is no good for you. I’m telling you,
Bex: exercise is good for you in moderation. It’s when you get for excessive exercise, that’s when shit like this happens.
Ellen: Mm-hmm.
Alice: No, just all exercise. It’s bad. Don’t do it.
Ellen: So Hen says they’re gonna give him some morphine and um, they’re gonna push 10 milligrams to relax him. And so at the same time, she and Eddie both say “running a line” and Hen’s like. “All right. You do it.”
Alice: Yeah.
Ellen: So I guess they’re working it out,
Alice: at least Hen’s trying to be nice. Not like Buck, who you know, is a monster.
Bex: Okay. But he’s a well-meaning monster.
Alice: Hey, don’t get me wrong. [00:25:00] I love Buckley. We know that I love Buck.
Bex: He’s just, he’s taken, he is got his mindset and he’s going full force, a hundred percent effort down his particular line of thinking. It’s just unfortunately that that’s like his maximum attention is.
I mean, we, we will talk about it more when we get there, but it’s, it’s, he’s, he’s not being mean. He’s not intentionally being mean.
Ellen: Well, he tells, he tells Ravi to stay focused. If you get distracted, people die.
Bex: Yeah. Because they’re trying to wheel the gurney in and Ravi’s too busy, like ogling the Narcissus mirror.
Alice: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Buck telling someone not to get distracted, Mr.
Bex: Pot, pot meet kettle.
Alice: Yeah.
Ellen: But Craig hears them and he is like, “I’m gonna die.” and Hen’s like, “no, no, no, no more crazy workouts.”
Bex: And he [00:26:00] says, yes, I’ve definitely learned my lesson. I’m not gonna do that. Cut to like seconds later when Eddie and Buck physically lift him off the toilet, um, and into the stair chair, and he’s looking at their arms going, “Wow, you guys are pretty jacked. What kind of workout do you do?”
Buck’s looking at Eddie like, is this guy flirting with me? Like, what’s going on
Alice: again? He doesn’t even have a tape worm.
Bex: Eddie is like, I cannot believe what’s going on. Hen is just done with everyone.
Ellen: Yeah. She can’t believe it.
Bex: No.
Ellen: Meanwhile, um, May and Athena are having a, a, a pampering, mani pedi day, but there is a, you know, ulterior motive that Athena has.
She’s trying to get information out of May about Harry, although May does like start [00:27:00] it by asking about him. But Athena says “He barely says a word. Have you talked to him?” So, yeah, she’s fishing for information.
Bex: Uh, but the fishing expedition gets derailed slightly because May gets a text from Linda who is looking to swap shifts.
And May is adamant, she’s not going to swap shifts. Linda has, Linda’s gotta suck it up, um, and work with Claudette. ’cause May is refusing to. Um, yeah. And so she then has to explain,
Ellen: even though later she goes in and Claudette is there anyway. So I don’t know.
Alice: I think she just has more extra time with Claudette.
Bex: Yeah, she does. Yeah. I think that was her rostered shift. But she’s not going to like volunteer to spend more time with Claudette than she has to. Yeah. Um, but then she has to explain to her mother that she’s being like, bullied by a grown woman.
Ellen: Yeah. And then naturally, um, Athena offers to come down there [00:28:00] and give her a piece of her mind and May’s like, “uh, no, I don’t think that’s a good idea. She already thinks I’m a child. Yeah. Um, I don’t need my mommy to come and, and like stick up for me.”
Bex: Yeah, but more likely Athena would come down and find some like drugs or some sort of trumped up charge that she could throw at Claudette and drag her down to the station. ’cause that’s what she does to people.
Ellen: I I mean, it wouldn’t be the first time. Oh yeah.
Bex: Uh, so they go back to talking about Harry. Um, meanwhile other people are talking about Harry, uh, specifically his principal and his stepfather because Harry got, uh, in some major trouble and the school still don’t have access to their records after the whole ransomware thing. Um, so they just asked Harry they to give, give them the phone number for a parent, [00:29:00] and he nominated Bobby ’cause he thought he’d get into less trouble if Bobby came and picked him up.
Alice: Yeah, it doesn’t quite work.
Bex: It doesn’t quite work.
Ellen: It’s, it’s all news to Bobby too. Like, he’s like, “uh, what did he do?” And when the principal says that they know he’s, had it been through a significant trauma, but his acting out, has reached the point. Bobby’s like, “Wait, wait, wait. Acting out?”
Bex: Yeah. So he’s, he’s been ill tempered. He’s not doing his homework. He’s cursing in front of his teachers and now he punched a kid in the face.
Alice: They don’t even show why he punched a kid in the face, do they?
Bex: Nope. Uh, all we get out of Harry is that the kid’s a jackhole.
Alice: Okay. I mean, kids are jackholes, but kids are unfortunately, Jack, but unfortunately you can’t just go around punching them.
Bex: No.
Alice: You get in trouble for that. [00:30:00]
Bex: Yes. So Harry is suspended for a week, um, and he’s hoping that he can just hang out at the station house for the week so that, that he doesn’t have to tell his parents. Uh, which I mean, that has never worked for Harry. The last time he tried to hang out at the station house to get out of being in trouble, the only reason Bobby didn’t call Michael was because Michael found Harry before Bobby could make the call.
Alice: Yeah.
Bex: Bobby is not the fun stepfather that’s going to, you know, let cover for you with your parents. In fact, he’s insisting that Harry has to tell his parents what’s going on.
Ellen: Harry is so cute here though, because he goes, “But they don’t get me, not like you.” and he smiles at Bobby, like a winning kind of smile.
Bex: That’s the puppy eyes.
Ellen: And Bobby’s like, yeah, no, that’s not gonna work. Oh, you can’t charm me into this kid.
Alice: He. Good try, but No.
Ellen: [00:31:00] Yeah. Good try. Very good try.
Bex: Good try like A for effort, but yeah, it’s not gonna work.
Ellen: Yeah. Alright, back to dispatch. Actually, we haven’t been there yet, so to dispatch, um, May’s like, I don’t know why she’s doing this with her phone, but she’s trying to see where Claudette is in the room by using her like selfie camera to like look around the corner.
And it’s, it’s really obvious ’cause when Jamal walks in, he just says like, “What are you doing?”
Alice: Yeah. It’s, it’s so weird.
Ellen: And um, she’s like, “oh, I was just checking my lipstick.” It’s weird. And um, as she walks to her desk, Claudette kind of gives her like a, I don’t know, even know, like a dagger eyes kind of look.
Bex: Yeah.
Ellen: But May just sort of smiles. And then as she sits down and puts her earpiece in, she says, and “9-1-1, what’s your damage?” I’m like, did she say that to a caller? But [00:32:00] she was just mut muttering to herself. Yeah. So this, I, the one thing about this episode that I, I didn’t enjoy among the other things that I didn’t enjoy, um, there, there are a lot of like really short scenes that are cut back and forth and it was a little disorienting sometimes because they’re not related at all.
So I don’t know, I just didn’t like the way that they chopped back and forth.
Bex: Yes.
Alice: Yeah.
Bex: From this scene we cut to Griffith Park, which where the observatory is. Um, and we meet Dante and Randall who look like they are groundskeepers. Um. Who I think are supposed to work together, but, um, Randall’s like, no, let’s just divide and conquer.
We’ll, we’ve got a long list. I’m gonna take half. You take half. We’ll go and do it. Um, and we will get finished in half the time. Dante is a little bit apprehensive about doing this, uh, ’cause he, I [00:33:00] think there, he understands the dangers of some of the tasks that they have to do. Randall does not seem to care.
Ellen: No. He’s a bit of a cocky young guy who’s like, eh, we are just gonna do it. It’ll be fast.
Bex: Which is ironic.
Ellen: We each take a share.
Bex: Uh, considering the next time we go back to dispatch, it’s ’cause Randall has called 9-1-1.
Ellen: Yeah. They cut straight to the chase with this one at least. Yeah. I, they didn’t even show him game.
Alice: I thought I’d missed something because like I saw them like bitching about things and then all of a sudden like that was it. It was really weird.
Bex: Yeah. I wonder if they filmed the emergency and then decided no, we’d much rather see anything else, so we’re gonna cut it. Um, or if they just didn’t film it at all and went No, no, we just, we’ll do the setup and then we’ll do the end result. We don’t need the middle.
Ellen: Yeah, it might have been cut for time as well. They might have just, like they might have filmed him climbing the tree or whatever [00:34:00] and
Bex: yeah,
Ellen: just cut it out at the end. Anyway.
Bex: Anyway, so Randall has called 9-1-1, but we don’t know that it’s Randall because he’s not talking.
Uh, there’s a reason why, I mean, it’s a very legitimate reason why he can’t say anything, but May, can, May takes the call, which is important and she can hear that there is someone on the other end of the phone. Claudette has apparently developed that same spidey sense that Josh and Sue have. Um, and she immediately makes a, that’s
Alice: that’s who taught them clearly.
Bex: And she immediately makes a beeline for May’s station. She’s like, oh, this is a, like a really good, um, good complicated call I want in on this. Um, and she literally takes over May’s call to the point where she even pushes May out of her chair. Yeah. So that she can sit at May’s station and take the call.
Ellen: Um, so she sends, she the one who sends the 118 to [00:35:00] Griffith Park. They work out where the guy is because they hear noises in the background on the call.
Bex: They p they ping this cell phone tower and they figure out he’s in Griffith Park. And then yes, based on background noise, um, she can.
Ellen: She works out that it’s near the freeway.
Bex: Yeah.
Ellen: But then when the 118 arrive and start calling out, um, she can hear Eddie calling but he, he said, he calls out and she’s like, “oh, I heard that.” And they’re like, “oh, that we didn’t say that through the radio.” And she’s like, “no, through the cell phone I could hear you’re nearby.” I’m like, wow. That’s convenient, isn’t it?
Bex: So the 118 all go to Eddie’s, um, converge on Eddie, and Eddie spots their victim, uh, who is, has the way they’ve set it up, he’s like under a ladder and under a branch. [00:36:00] So he was obviously up the ladder chopping the branch down. Something’s happened and he’s now,
Ellen: he chopped the branch that he was leaning the ladder on and the whole thing fell down.
Bex: Oh, who knows? And he’s ended up with the chainsaw in the side of his neck. But conveniently, he still managed to have his cell phone within reach, so he was able to call, um, and just press the buttons to communicate with the dispatchers. Um, it’s pretty gruesome. Yeah. Um, the more seasoned members of the 118 don’t bat an eye.
Um, Ravi looks like he’s about to blow chunks.
Alice: Literally. He actually goes and vomits
Bex: and he does actually go and, and vomit after
Alice: Buck. Just like, yeah, Buck’s like “Probie, if you’re gonna vomit, do it somewhere else.” And he’s like, “copy!” And just goes and vomits. It’s like, it’s just blood. Like what did the B shift do?
Did the B shift just like go to. Like, I don’t even know what the B shift do. Do they just clean the station?
Bex: Well, but it is, it’s [00:37:00] really interesting ’cause a couple of episodes ago we had Albert who is also a probie bitching about they don’t let him do this stuff. Like all he does is roll hoses,
Alice: oh yeah. So maybe, maybe Ravi hasn’t been allowed to… yeah.
Bex: And so Ravi isn’t doing normal probie stuff. Ravi’s been,
Ellen: yeah, he’s been bumped up. Yes, because he’s filling a, a, a vac a vacancy.
Bex: It’s really interesting that we don’t see, we’ve seen probies in the 118 under Gerard do the typical probie hazing shit. Bobby doesn’t appear to do that with his probies.
His probies are, if they’re in a team, they are on a team. They’re not doing the, the cleaning and the make work. They’re actually on a shift. Which is why you end up with them over in the corner vomiting. ’cause maybe they’re not ready.
Ellen: Yeah. But he has to. He has to with the moment. ’cause Chim’s not there.
Bex: Does he have to put a probie on? Couldn’t he have bumped somebody else up from the B shift? Like I know for storytelling purposes it has to be Ravi and, but it’s, it, it’s just [00:38:00] interesting
He’s part
Ellen: of the team.
Bex: It’s just, it’s just interesting pattern that everybody, all the other probies and like Eddie was a probie and like
Alice: literally, I love that Eddie just came in,
Bex: Eddie’s a probie on his first day
Alice: in season two and it’s just like, cool, I’m just gonna detonate it. Gr like Buck never taught him how to u like how to dismantle a chainsaw or put the battering ram in.
Ellen: Yeah.
Bex: It’s just an interesting pattern of behavior for the 118 to like throw their probies in the deep end and they are fully fledged members at the team from day dot. So because of the, if you’ve got something, if you’re impaled with something, you leave that in.
Um, you don’t try to take it out. While Hen and Eddie work to stabilize Randall. Um, Buck is securing the blade in place by wrapping gauze around it. And then as Bobby holds the housing of the chainsaw, steady Buck, [00:39:00] unscrews the blade so that they can then just transport, um, Randall to hospital with it still in his neck.
’cause it’s obviously, I think somebody says that it’s nicked. Hen Hen says
Ellen: it’s embedded in his clavicle
Bex: and nicked his carotid, but because it’s still sitting in there, it’s blocking his carotid artery. As soon as they take that out, he’s gone.
Ellen: And as they all get in the ambulance, Dante comes running up, who’s the other, the other guy. And he’s like, oh my God, is he alive? And Hen’s like, “don’t worry, we are gonna take good care of him and we’re gonna drive very carefully.” And she looks at Eddie who’s gonna drive. And it’s like, dude, I’m, I always drive carefully.
Bex: I’m not the one who hit the chick in the car. Remember?
I think it’s just dear. It’s another, like, she hasn’t experienced having Eddie drive the rig before. She knows that she [00:40:00] can trust Chim ’cause he’s used to driving, but Eddie’s not used to driving the rig. Mm-hmm. Um, apparently Claudette and may have been on the call this entire time listening. Um, and Bobby doesn’t sign off until they’re, they’re, um, transporting Randall to the hospital and both of them.
Sort of sigh with relief that they found him and he’s fine. And then Claudette immediately says, there’s no shame in asking for help. Better letting some better than letting someone die on your watch, which is just insult to injury. Because May didn’t even have a chance to find out if she needed help.
Ellen: Yeah.
Alice: Yeah. Literally.
Bex: She didn’t have time to, um, to fail or to mess up. Claudette swooped in before she had a chance.
Ellen: Yeah, she just took over. She didn’t even let her try.
Bex: Yeah. [00:41:00] Yeah. Which isn’t how you teach people, which isn’t how you teach people, but Claudette’s not trying to teach.
Ellen: Yeah. At this stage it feels a little bit like Claudette has some kind of a, um, control freakishness that means that she can’t possibly let anyone else take, take care of anything.
But I dunno if the, if the writers are thinking that hard about it,
Bex: it feels like, um, it feels like there’s in sort of co in the corporate world there you’ll sometimes get, and this is gonna sound terrible, but um, you’ll sometimes get women in corporate world who have fought so hard to get to their position within a corporation, within a business.
Um, and they will sabotage every other young woman that comes underneath them because they don’t want them to usurp them. They’re like, I struggled to get here and I’m not letting you do [00:42:00] better than me. I’m gonna keep you down to keep myself up. And I kind of wonder if that’s what Claudette is doing here.
She’s like, the only way I can be like the best dispatcher is if everybody around me is kept below me.
Ellen: Yeah. Maybe.
Alice: I think she’s just a cunt
Bex: Well, there is also that,
Ellen: uh, May is quite cross. She’s like pulls out her earpiece and like storms away, which is fair.
Bex: And then says pretty much everything we just said to Harry later on.
Ellen: No, not later on, immediately.
Bex: Well, I’m, I’m not, I’m assuming she had to finish her shift that she didn’t just like storm.
Ellen: Okay. Okay.
Bex: Off
Ellen: immediately in the episode.
Bex: Immediately in the episode
Ellen: later in, in time.
Bex: Yes. Later in time. After her shift, later that [00:43:00] night. Like a, yes, A few hours later in SpongeBob world, um, she’s back at her apartment. Harry is there and she’s bitching to him about, um, Claudette,
Ellen: and he’s very unhelpful. He says, “Did she save the guy?” and she’s like, I don’t care. Like, “no, that’s not the point.
Bex: No.
Ellen: I could have saved him if she let me do my job.”
Alice: Yeah.
Ellen: So yeah. Everything that we just said, yeah, you’re right.
Alice: And like, it would be different if Claudia was just like, oh, hey, like this is what you do in that situation. Like, make it a teaching moment. But she doesn’t,
Bex: no. Uh, Harry is trying to give advice to May. He’s like, ” Claudette is a bully. Bullies don’t back down unless you make them. She’s only dishing it out because she knows that you’ll take it.” And May’s like, “I don’t think I should be taking advice from someone who just got suspended from school.”
Ellen: Yeah. For punching a bully part, like so-called bully, allegedly.
Bex: Well, I don’t think, I don’t think we even found [00:44:00] out that the kid was a bully. I think we’re assuming that he was a bully from the smug look on his face, um, seconds before Harry clocked him.
Alice: Yeah. We literally don’t know what he did.
Bex: Like I, I’m assuming he said something about Harry. Um. But we, we don’t know that at the moment.
Um mm-hmm. Funnily enough, while he seems to have been willing to tell May that he got suspended, he’s kind of forgotten to tell some other people. And so may gets a notification on her phone and goes to open the front door because for some weird reason, her parents have texted to say, we’re outside your door. Let us in. Rather than like knocking on the door,
Alice: I assumed it was just a doorbell, like if, because you know, her mom’s a cop, so she would’ve just been like, yeah, you have to have security.
Bex: For whatever reason, she gets up, opens the door, and you’ve got two very angry [00:45:00] Grant parents and one, Ooh, you are in trouble stepfather, Bobby.
Ellen: Grandparents? Oh, Grant parents. Like, wait a minute.
Bex: Not grandparents, Grant parents. So Athena and Michael are like staring daggers through the door and Bobby’s just like hovering in the background, waiting for the drama.
Alice: He’s just glad he doesn’t have to be the parent for once, honestly. He’s like, oh, it’s not, Buck this time. Sucked in thought I was a bad parent. Now it’s yours, Athena.
Bex: So they’re, they’re angry at Harry. Um, they’re worried about Harry. They’re also slightly angry at May for not telling them that Harry was here. And May’s like, he didn’t tell me that he, that he was on the run. I’m blameless in this situation. Um, and Harry says that he didn’t say anything because he knew that they were just going to get mad.
Ellen: And Athena’s like, despite just shouting at him a moment ago, she says, “No one’s getting [00:46:00] mad.” It’s like you kind of are mad.
Bex: You
Alice: No, no one’s mad. I dunno what you’re talking about.
Bex: Yes, they just wanna know what happened. Harry’s doesn’t wanna talk to them and while they respect the sentiment, they don’t particularly like his tone. And Harry shoots back, “You want me to be honest, right?” And Michael’s like, “yeah, you can be honest, but you can’t be disrespectful.”
And he’s like, “fine. Sorry. Are we done?” Athena says that they’re not done. ’cause “After everything that you’ve been through…” and then the floodgates open and Harry’s like, “The only thing, the only reason I went through any of that was because of you two. Dad, just let me get taken by Jeffrey. And Jeffrey only took me because of you, because you were too busy being a cop and too busy to protect me.”
It just stuns his parents. Bobby chimes in. [00:47:00] Like, “That’s not fair, Harry.” Harry’s like, “But it’s true. And because that is all she cares about being a cop. Jeffrey was right about you. You are a terrible mother.” And Athena doesn’t really help her case. Um, because she reacts to this by slapping him.
Alice: Yikes.
Bex: It’s not a, it’s not a hard slap. It’s not like she, you know, winds up and lets him have it. She just kind of snaps her hand out and sort of pushes him in the face with the back of her knuckles. But she still hits him.
Alice: It’s yikes.
Bex: It’s, it’s yikes all round.
Ellen: Yeah. She lashes out.
Bex: Yeah. ’cause that’s what Athena does. She lashes out, but she doesn’t have a weapon in this situation, so she’s gonna use her hands.
Ellen: She’s so, so badly needs therapy right now. She’s been through so much,
Bex: especially because after
Ellen: this is not the way to let it out.
Bex: Yeah. ’cause [00:48:00] she like, she’s just slapped her child and then when, when Bobby takes her back home, all she can talk about is what Harry did and what Harry said. And it’s like she’s barely recognizing that she just hit her own kid.
Alice: It’s just so much. Yikes.
Bex: Yeah, I do kind of, I mean, I know this storyline sort of sucks, but I do like that for once the show hasn’t pushed the trauma under the rug.
Ellen: Yeah. I was thinking that when I watched this scene. Like, like they’re letting it kind of linger, like it probably should, like
Bex: Yes.
Ellen: You don’t just brush something like this off.
Bex: So they set it up in episode three
Ellen: looking at you, Supernatural and just brush all the trauma off.
Bex: Yeah. Well I mean this show is great about doing that. You get like maybe half an episode to have a trauma and then boom, you’re fine. The next episode and we’re not gonna [00:49:00] talk about it. Um, but in this one they set up that Jeffrey was getting in to, they set up Jeffrey getting inside Harry’s head and now we’re sort of seeing what that looks like.
Ellen: Yeah. And he’s still haunting Athena as well.
Bex: Yeah. So this is what Bobby is trying to explain to Athena. Like, that wasn’t Harry that was talking, that was Jeffrey. Jeffrey got inside his head and he’s just repeating what Jeffrey said. Um, and then, yeah, it’s quite clear that Athena is also still suffering from what happened because she’s still seeing this as a battle of her versus Jeffrey.
Even though he is dead, he’s still wreaking havoc on Athena’s family. And he is winning.
Ellen: Yeah. Bobby’s like trying to encourage her not to let him live inside her head, but it’s a bit late for that. Bobby.
Bex: Yeah,
Ellen: he’s already there sitting on the couch, [00:50:00]
Bex: Made himself very comfortable. Uh, Hen is also sitting on a couch. Not in Athena’s mind though. Um, she’s sitting in the couch in the loft area of the station house. Um, and it looks like she’s reading an actual book and not a medical textbook.
Ellen: Oh yeah. Remember when Hen went to med school?
Bex: Remember when Hen went to med school and all she was doing on her down time,
Ellen: we haven’t heard anything.
Bex: Every time she was not at work, she was like studying. Remember that?
Ellen: Is she on like, you know, summer break or something at the moment? It is very hot at the moment.
Bex: I don’t know. Um, so she’s reading a book. Buck is stalking around the station house with a chainsaw looking for Ravi,
Alice: which is totally not, you know,
Bex: it’s, it’s ominous,
Alice: hilarious. It’s fine.
Bex: You can hear, you can hear Buck and he’s like very angrily yelling for the probie. And then comes upstairs to ask [00:51:00] Hen if she’s seen where Ravi is. And he’s full on holding a chainsaw as he’s asking where Ravi is.
Alice: Yeah,
Ellen: he looks terrifying.
Bex: He does, but like, Hen’s like “what? He gets sick at one scene and now it’s off with his head?” And Buck’s like, “no, I just wanna show him how to disassemble one of these.” Because he was too busy being sick on the other side of the scene.
He didn’t get to either A watch or B actually disassemble the chainsaw. So Buck needs to teach him how to do it ’cause he missed out on that opportunity, which makes perfect sense. It’s just the approach.
Ellen: It does. He just angry. He’s very angry.
Bex: Which is hilarious, considering it’s like self-inflicted anger. Like, buddy, you don’t have to be doing any of this. You’ve made the decision to do all of this. The, like, you’re, you’re sulking and angry at yourself. I don’t get,
Alice: look honestly, who hasn’t wanted to chase around the trainee with [00:52:00] a chainsaw.
Bex: He is unable to find Ravi though because Ravi is hiding under Bobby’s desk, like literally hiding under the desk.
’cause Hen goes looking for him, um, she goes into Bobby’s office and turns on the light and she’s like, “Hello, is anybody here?” And then she gets a look on her face with like, oh, act, okay, I know you’re in here, so I’m gonna pretend to leave. I’m gonna shut the door behind myself and then I’m gonna wait and you’re gonna think that I have left and you’re gonna come out. Which is exactly what happens.
Ellen: Mm-hmm. Ravi gets such a fright when he turns around and she’s there and he’s like, oh, hi. She’s like, “I thought I might find you hiding in here.” And he’s like, “hiding? No!”
Bex: She has a child, she knows all the tricks.
Alice: Yeah. I, I love when he is just like, “Oh, I was just in here. ’cause um, like I, I finished up all my chores, so I thought I’d tighten Bobby’s chair,” and then he [00:53:00] moves it and it just squeaks like crazy. And he is like, um,
Ellen: and he’s like, “okay, fine. I was hiding from Buck. Yeah. I needed a break.” And Hen’s like, “Don’t worry, I’ll protect you from Buck and his chainsaw.” And Ravi’s like, “There’s a chainsaw?”
Bex: She tells Ravi that in her logic of why Buck is doing what he’s doing, that one of his families being Maddie and Chim has slipping away.
So now he’s trying to make sure that the 118, his other family doesn’t slip away and he’s teaching Ravi because he wants to make sure that Ravi is ready for anything that gets thrown at him. But because he’s Buck, he also wants to make sure that he’s, that Ravi is worthy, which is sort of shades of Buck being pissed at Eddie because Eddie was too comfortable in the 118, like within the first day of, um, [00:54:00] of joining the team.
Ellen: Yeah, I thought that was where it was going. When later when he walks in and they’re all sitting around about to have lunch and he is, and Ravi’s fitting in fine. And I’m like, you know, we’ve already done this storyline with Eddie.
Bex: Yes, but it’s a different storyline.
Ellen: He can’t be jealous again,
Bex: no different storyline, which we will get to Hen tells Ravi that she does think that he’s worthy to be in the 118, so not to let Buck get into his head and push back if Buck pushes him too far.
Ellen: It’s more of a… no, I was gonna say it’s more of a bullying storyline, but like in this whole episode rather than peer pressure, but they can’t really call the episode “Bullies”.
Bex: But see, I don’t, I don’t, what I really hate, and we can, I will get to it at the end, is I hate that they’re like comparing, um, they’re framing Buck and Ravi and Claudette and May as the same thing in this episode. And I really don’t think that they are.
Ellen: Yeah, no, yeah, yeah. I, it’s just, Buck’s [00:55:00] attitude is a bit harsh, comes across as a bit harsh, so it feels like that. But
Bex: okay. So, so this is interesting because I, you are obviously watching this episode for the first time. So you are watching through like very, um, very unbiased lenses, whereas I’m watching it knowing what Buck’s thought process was the entire time.
So I think I’m a little bit more sympathetic to him. Through this episode because I know what’s going on in his head, whereas you have no idea where Buck was going with any of this until we got to the end.
Ellen: No, I didn’t.
Bex: Okay. We better keep going so we can get to the end so we can talk about it. Um, I’m
Alice: so close, but not really.
Ellen: Not really. There’s still lots to go.
Bex: We gotta get through the, this is another episode where it just seemed to keep going. Like I got to the end of the retirement community and went, okay, we’re done. And then actually, nope, we’ve still gotta get through like May and all.
Alice: Oh my God, I forgot about the retirement [00:56:00] community.
Ellen: It’s quite a beautiful building. This, um, like nice gardens. It’s got that kind of Spanish styling to the, you know, tiles.
Bex: Yeah.
Ellen: Uh, this is Shady Crest Retirement Community, Luxury Leisure living.
Bex: So it’s,
Ellen: um,
Bex: it’s expensive. Um, it’s, so it’s kind of, it’s set up that you need to have a lot of money to be able to stay there.
Um, and then also that therefore the people who are staying there also have a lot of money, which we, we witness because, Mr. And Mrs. Jones, um, are showing off Mrs. Jones’s latest, uh, jewelry acquisition, which is, uh, some kind of diamond bracelet. And, uh, the Joneses are contrasted with Fiona and Felix, and Fiona especially, [00:57:00] appears to be a bit of a social climber.
Like she’s got champagne tastes on what I’m guessing are like cordial, um, budget. Yeah. Um, because she seems to be like constantly wanting everything. So the Joneses are showing off, um, the new bracelet, and Fiona is immediately talking about a Cartier bracelet that she wants to match what Mrs. Jones has just got.
Ellen: Yeah. And the her husband’s like, what brace, uh, what bangle? Like
Alice: Yeah. Like what are doing?
Ellen: He’s playing along and then he is like, what? Um, but yeah, so I guess, I guess I’m buying a bangle.
Bex: Mm-hmm. So once we’ve set up these guys, uh, the next we get, um, Beverly, who is the manager of the retirement community, um, is coming around.
She’s cleaning up after the [00:58:00] nurse Louis, who has been distributing all of the medication for all of the residents. And while she’s doing that, she mentions to Louis that could he go down to the basement because there has been reports of a foul odor coming from down there and, uh, Fiona looks a little bit worried about, um, this and in like the worst.
“Oh, I, uh, I didn’t even know we had a basement. Did you know we had a basement?”
Ellen: Don’t look suspicious.
Bex: Oh, there’s
Alice: Don’t be suspicious. Don’t be su suspicious.
Bex: “There’s a chapel down in the basement? I wonder what the chapel’s like, don’t you wonder what the chapel’s like, Felix?” Felix is like, “oh, yes, yes. Every day I wonder what the chapel’s like. I’m, I’m gonna go check the chapel out right now.”
Alice: Yep. Um, sure am.
Bex: Um, and Beverly sends Louis to go down with Felix because there’s quote unquote a lot of [00:59:00] stairs to go down to the basement. So while, um, Louis is busy trying to find a single key off the entire ring of keys he’s got on his hip. Um, Felix heads to the chapel, which is, you know, very nice.
Um, and we find the source of the foul odor. Um, there’s a bunch of chemicals in, um, plastic tubs been shoved under one of the pews and it looks like one of the bottles of chemicals has like fallen over. And I think the implication is that it’s kind of spilled everywhere.
Ellen: Yeah. It doesn’t look it’s not in a very safe environment. It’s just shoved under the pews.
Bex: Yeah. Um, and Felix kind of makes a, a “shit” noise and that brings Lewis running. He’s like, what’s wrong? And turns on the lights in the chapel so they, he can [01:00:00] see what’s wrong. Um, but for whatever reason, the, like the chandelier light, as the electricity starts flowing through, it starts throwing sparks.
And whatever chemical they have in those little tubs under the pew has is aerosol or something is in the air, basically sparks from the chandelier plus the chemicals equals huge kaboom.
Alice: Yeah. I, I don’t know how, like,
Bex: I don’t even know.
Alice: Yeah, they need an electrician badly here. ’cause what?
Bex: Yes, like earth shattering, kaboom. Like the entire, um, building shakes, like pill bottle pills, flying cups flying,
Ellen: like meth labs do blow up though, don’t they? Like
Bex: they do, but I don’t.
Ellen: Backyard meth labs do.
Bex: Oh, absolutely. But I don’t know if you could get that effect just by turning on a light.
Ellen: Yeah. I don’t think it’s caused by faulty electricals,
Bex: faulty wiring. No. Yes. Um, [01:01:00] so fire, like big, massive fireball. The chapel is now on fire. Um, and so the 118 get dispatched.
Ellen: Of course they do.
Alice: Obviously they do.
Bex: And they’re sent down into the basement because, uh, Beverly managed to get everybody out of the building, except she can’t find Felix and Louis. And the last time she saw them, they were heading down to the chapel.
Alice: Like literally they went to the chapel and then it blew up. And she’s just like, I wonder where they are?
Bex: Um, at the, the mention of the chapel though, Hen’s like, “wow, did somebody piss off the big guy?”
Alice: Yeah. That’s kind of funny.
Bex: So Buck and Ravi are put in the lead. They are told by Bobby to run a hose through the front door and start knocking down the fire.
Um, Ravi pisses Buck off by grabbing the wrong hose, so I can imagine that Buck’s already compiling a list in his head of when they go back to the station. [01:02:00] Ravi’s gonna go through some sort of hose identification certification program.
Ellen: Yeah.
Bex: Uh, I’m skipping ahead. So Buck and Ravi head into the chapel with the hoses. Um, Bobby and Eddie find Lewis, who is under one of the massive doors of the chapel. Um, so while Buck and Ravi starts spraying the wa spraying water on the, uh, fire on the flames, um, Bobby and Eddie work to get the door off Lewis, which is not.
Which is a good thing for him, but it’s also not a good thing because, the door was like, as soon as he left, they lift the door off he starts screaming. He wasn’t screaming when the door was on him, but they lift the door off and he starts screaming and we reveal that there is a giant like stake in his abdomen, like wooden stake,
Alice: because of course there is.
Ellen: [01:03:00] Yeah, yeah, yeah. It’s, it’s impaled.
Bex: So Hen starts working on Louis and sends Eddie to go off, uh, to keep working with Bobby to find Felix. And so Hen with a little bit of foreshadowing tells Louis that she’s gonna take care of him, but the best thing is to leave the impaled object in him and let the surgeons take it out.
Hmm. Does he do that? No. No. Well, foreshadowing, So they find Felix, he is under a pew. Um, they get the pew off him. Um, Hen gets Lewis onto a gurney and he starts to panic. And the foreshadowing foretold.
Ellen: He’s in a lot of pain, I think. But he reaches down. He, he, he can move fine. So he just reaches down and yanks the thing out of himself and all [01:04:00] his blood starts gushing out through it.
Bex: Yeah, because interestingly, um, Hen has not secured it, she hasn’t wrapped gauze around it to keep it like in place to stop it from moving or to prevent him from yanking it out, which is really interesting considering we very specifically saw Buck do that when they had the guy with the chainsaw in the neck. So,
Alice: yeah.
Ellen: Would they be able, would she be able to secure it well enough that he wouldn’t be able yank it out if he was intent on doing that?
Bex: Oh, probably not, but I’m just. Still, just, um, for someone who’s, you know, supposedly going to med school and has so many years as a paramedic, I would’ve thought that she would’ve at least tried to pack the wound to, um, you know, stop the bleeding and secure the inhale at least to something.
Yeah. Yeah. It’s also because like nothing comes of this, like he yanks it out. Yeah. She puts pressure on the wound and then sends him off to hospital, and then that’s it. Like,
Alice: yeah, that’s it.
Bex: That’s it. There’s no consequence. There’s no big….
Ellen: It’s just extra drama.
Bex: It’s just extra drama. Yeah. [01:05:00] And I don’t know why.
Um, so they go off. Buck and Ravi is still trying to knock down the fire and it’s not working. Like there’s much water as there spraying on it. The flames are not decreasing. And Ravi has an idea and he turns off his hose and Buck is like, what the fuck are you doing? Well, he doesn’t, it’s like, what the hell you
Alice: Oh my God. He gets so mad. Yeah.
Bex: He’s like, what the fuck are you doing? And Ravi’s like, “This is a chemical fire. We, we can’t use water on a chemical fire. We need CO2.” So he runs off scene to grab CO2 canisters and Buck is just looking after and going, what the hell? And would probably have tried to continue using water to knock down the fire just to spite Ravi, except Bobby has heard all of this looks at Buck and goes, “well, what the hell are you doing? Go get the CO2.”
Alice: Yeah. At least Bobby’s paying attention. [01:06:00] Yes.
Bex: Um, so they come back with their CO2 canisters, starts spraying on the fire, and that like works instantly, like within seconds of them spraying, the fire is out. So they’re able to get Felix out, um, and knocking down the flames reveals the plastic tubs full of chemicals, which surprisingly are completely untouched by the fire.
Alice: Yeah. Like there was a full explosion
Ellen: Yeah, what caught on fire?
Alice: Yeah. Like
Bex: everything else, apparently,
Alice: there was an explosion, everything. And there’s this plastic tub that’s still completely fine. Like it’s not melted.
Bex: I would’ve thought that, considering that what was in there was like what had, um, caused the, the flame caused the spark to like turn into
Ellen: Yeah. Flammable substance. Right?
Bex: I would’ve thought that would’ve been the first thing to burn, but no. Still [01:07:00] perfectly intact.
Ellen: Oh, I didn’t even notice that. That’s terrible.
Bex: But obviously the reason that they had that was so that Bobby could clock it for, um, the fact that it’s a meth lab.
Ellen: Yeah.
Bex: Because they get Felix out of the chapel, load him in an ambulance, um, and. They, he reports back to dispatch that they,
Ellen: they give him
Bex: Oh, they give him some morphine? Yeah, because he’s,
Ellen: they give him some morphine to come, you know, take the pain away.
Bex: Yeah. But they tell everybody that,
Alice: so he’s having a great time with that.
Bex: Yeah. It’s now, it’s now crime scene though, is the, the big thing because they’ve uncovered a meth lab and Fiona’s like, “oh my god, a meth lab.” And Felix, who’s as high as aka, it’s like, “well, how else can I afford a Cartier Parve diamond bracelet?”
Ellen: A diamond encrusted one. [01:08:00] Fiona’s, like, his wife’s just like, “oh, that must be the, the morphine talking, or he’s doing a bit.” But no, Felix just keeps on going. And apparently they’d always been trying to keep up with the other couple who they was speaking to at the beginning.
Alice: Yes. Who were literally the Joneses.
Ellen: Yeah, yeah. They’ve literally been trying to keep up with the Joneses the whole time, but, um, apparently this place costs so much. So Fiona had no choice but to turn to a life of crime.
Alice: Who were they selling to?
Ellen: Uh, other people in the, the retirement village probably.
Alice: That’s what I was trying to work out. Like was it the other residents?
Bex: It’d have to be
Ellen: Maybe they had some locals coming in to visit and take away some gear.
Bex: I mean, we already know that like retirement communities are rife for orgies, so I’m not surprised that there’s drugs as well. Um,
Ellen: [01:09:00] there’s a lot of drinking going on, at least
Alice: apparently. Yeah.
Bex: So Bobby has the last line and, and says, well, tells Fiona that she should have chosen crime that was a little less explosive, which Felix thinks is hilarious.
Alice: Ha ha ha.
Bex: So while they’re all, while, um, everyone else is like, ha laughing it up, like, isn’t this hilarious? Um, Buck has tracked down Ravi, who is around the other side of the, of the, um, the ladder truck stripping out of his gear.
And when Ravi sees Buck coming towards him, you just see him just like brace himself. It’s like, fuck. He’s like, oh shit, what have I done now? And then, and like credit to him, he turns my faces Buck square, like head on, like “Whatever you got, I can take it.” Um, yep. All Buck’s got for him though is a congratulations.
Like “you saved the day with that CO2 call.” Then very ominously as far as [01:10:00] Ellen is concerned, “I think you are ready.”
Ellen: That was so, but he doesn’t even say he, it’s the way he says it. Like it’s not even a, “Oh, congratulations. You’re ready!” He’s like, “I think you are ready.”
Alice: Poor Ravi.
Ellen: Yeah, it’s just a constant like, oh, what now, what next?
Bex: Uh, thankfully it doesn’t take us long to figure out what exactly is next. Um, they go back to the station house and while everybody else is up in their kitchen getting ready for dinner, um, Buck’s hiding by one of the trucks, trying to call pretty much everybody.
Um, he tries to call Maddie and her, uh, voicemail is not accepting any more messages ’cause it’s full. And so it hangs up on him. And so he tries to call Chimney [01:11:00] and Chimney’s like Chimney’s voicemail message is, “Hey, it’s Chimney. Uh, sorry I can’t talk right now. Leave a message, unless it’s Buck. In which case, stop calling me.”
Alice: I laughed so hard.
Ellen: Aw.
Alice: Poor Buck.
Ellen: Poor Buck.
Bex: So he hangs up and then like his, you can see he’s got, um, like he’s angry and he’s frustrated and he’s hurt. So the first thing out of his mouth is he yells for probie. ’cause he’s gonna take all of that anger and hurt and frustration and he is gonna channel it through Ravi.
But thankfully Bobby tells him that it’s dinner time and he has to come up, um, come out of his room, stop sulking and eat at the rest of the family.
Ellen: Yeah.
Bex: Um, who have been having a lovely time while Buck’s been sulking in his room. Um, because they’re all laughing with Ravi over what he did to the gurney. Like to the point where Ravi says, [01:12:00] “I thought we were having, um. Mexican tonight.” And Hen’s like, “Yeah, no, he didn’t wanna trigger me up so soon after you turned my gurney into a taco.”
Ellen: And Eddie can’t work out how, still can’t figure out how you did it. I didn’t even know it could do that.
Bex: Yeah. And Ravi’s like, “yeah, no, neither did I.” And Bobby’s Bobby’s like, “well, you know, you managed to fix it. Which, so it’s all good. And apparently you can now disassemble a chainsaw in under a minute.”
Ellen: So, so this was the part where Ravi Buck is watching all of them, like, you know, being cheerful and Ravi fitting right in.
Bex: Yeah.
Ellen: And
Bex: very much on the outside looking in.
Ellen: Yeah. I’m like, oh no, what’s, what’s he doing? What’s going through his head right now? Um, but at least we find out. Um, he walks over to Ravi, he looks up at him and like, “um, [01:13:00] am I in your seat or something?”
And he’s like, “No, no, no, you’re good.” But then, uh, he has something he needs to say to all of you. So everyone kind of puts down their forks and knives and looks at him like, what is it now? Oh, yeah.
Alice: Oh God. Now what?
Bex: Like Eddie.
Ellen: Now what?
Bex: Full on Eddie was serving himself salad. He full on, puts down the salad bowl and crosses his arms over his chest and like, all right, this’ll be good. What’s this?
Ellen: Yep. Are you suing us again?
Bex: Oh no.
Alice: Oh God.
Ellen: But it’s even worse because he kind of goes on this little spiel about how much he loves being, you know, how much it’s meant to him to be part of the 118. And “you all mean so much to me, which is why for the good of everyone I’ve decided I’m gonna put in for a transfer.”
And everyone’s like, what the hell did you just say?
Bex: He’s [01:14:00] like, “I, I really think, you know, with, with Chimney leaving, I think Ravi is ready to fill, fill the spot,” which confuses everyone. And it’s like, including Ravi. He says, “Wait, I’m filling Chimney spot?” Buck’s like, “No, Eddie’s filling Chimney’s spot. You are taking my spot.”
And Eddie’s like, “Okay, then who replaces me?” so Ravi’s replacing you Buck’s, like, I’m replacing Chim, so who’s replacing me?
Alice: Yeah. Oh. And so then Buck’s like, “oh, I guess like Bobby can work that out.” And Bobby’s like, “Oh, you’ve remembered that I’m a captain now?” Like,
Ellen: oh, but poor Buck, he, he’s just, everything feels broken now. He says, “it’s my fault. I’m the reason he’s gone.” I’m like, dude, are you spiraling because you’re not partnered with Eddie anymore?
Alice: Yes.
Bex: No.
Ellen: Like they made you [01:15:00] play with someone else and now you’re sad? But No,
Bex: no. It’s because
Ellen: that was, that was what I thought might’ve been the reason earlier, but no, the reason is, um, he didn’t tell Chim
Bex: He’s still spiraling after the conversation from like he had with Taylor. Like this is still the continuation of the same spiral.
Ellen: Yeah. Oh yeah. Yeah. He didn’t tell Chim what was going on with Maddie and now everyone hates him.
Bex: Yeah, so then we got Bobby saying that, um, he was the one who told Chimney to leave. He came to see Bobby, said he wanted to go find Maddie, “and I told him he should,” which we, which was mentioned in the sub promo summary.
The summary for the last episode, for last episode. Like there was an entire scene that apparently got cut because I think this is a callback to that scene. Or maybe they, I don’t know how far in advance they filmed this. So maybe they knew that they took [01:16:00] that out of that episode and went, well, we’re actually gonna need to reference that. So here Peter, say this line.
Alice: I don’t, it was very weird.
Bex: But anyway. Yep. Buck is saying, I’m the reason he left and Bobby’s actually going, no, I’m Spartacus. I’m the reason he’s leaving.
Alice: Yeah, I am Spartacus.
Bex: And then Eddie’s going. “Yeah. I told him to go as well.” And Hen’s like, “I told him that I’d come with him.” Ravi’s like, I didn’t talk to Chimney at all. Who’s Chimney?
Alice: Ravi’s like, who the fuck is Chimney? Are you talking about Han? Like what is happening right now? Why is he called Chimney? Yeah.
Ellen: Wouldn’t we all like to know? But the only thing that Buck says is like, “Oh.”
Bex: yeah, you’ve, he’s been spiraling for days, weeks even. And apparently everybody, but that’s so sad. ’cause he’s like the. You would think they’re saying it’s not your fault. We are the [01:17:00] one that all told him that it was fine for him to go, and so we know he’s coming back. You would think that that would end the spiral, but it doesn’t.
Ellen: Oh fuck. Well, I mean, it ends it for now because he does actually look pretty happy that they all say that, you know, he’s coming back with Maddie and then you’re gonna be right here. Eddie’s like, “You’re stuck with us.”
Bex: Yeah, you’re right here where you belong. Stuck with Eddie. Yeah. Um, and
Ellen: then Ravi turns to him and says, “You guys are so weird.” And I’m like, thank you. This is the weirdest dinner conversation, dinner table conversation
Alice: Poor Ravi’s like, I just wanna go back to B shift. Like, what? How did I end up here?
Ellen: Every, it’s like over dramatic. Just everything.
Bex: Yeah.
Ellen: Sorry, Ravi, you’re in it now.
Bex: See then I thought that was the end of the episode, but no, we gotta go back to dispatch.
Ellen: It did feel like the end. Yeah, [01:18:00]
Alice: it just keeps going. Why does it keep going?
Bex: We gonna go back to dispatch. Where May’s gonna, because like not only is it bad enough that May has to deal with the fact that she’s been bullied again, but now she has to deal with a suicidal teenager who is suicidal because she was being bullied.
Like, please, writers find another storyline for May. Any storyline. Get a, give her a pregnancy. I don’t care. Just
Alice: Knock her up at this point?
Bex: Yes.
Ellen: Wow. That might be too far in the other direction.
Bex: Something that doesn’t involve suicidal bullying, please.
Alice: Oh, anyway, so she takes a call that’s a suicidal teenager.
Bex: Yeah. Um, so is calling, not because she’s regretting that she’s taken a whole bunch of pills, but she’s using 9-1-1 as an audio suicide note. ’cause she knows that they record those calls, which we, I [01:19:00] mean we’ve had, we’ve had them do that before. We had that guy on the plane crash in season one who called 9-1-1 just so he could leave a message for his wife.
Alice: Like, I dunno why, I still don’t understand why he didn’t just call his wife. But yeah,
Bex: No, it, it was, it was kind of stupid then. And it’s, it’s still kind of stupid now, but, you know, maybe we could say that subconsciously Lisa really did actually want help. Um, so like,
Alice: I don’t know, post a MySpace status, like
Ellen: we’re not that far ago in time.
Bex: Go live on Instagram. I don’t know. Yeah. What do the children do these days? Yeah. But anyway.
Ellen: Oh, not for much longer.
Alice: Yeah. Jokes on Australian teenagers.
Ellen: It’s all getting banned.
Alice: No. Now they’ll have to use, um, use, they’ll have to use dispatch.
Ellen: They’ll have to call Triple zero. Oh God.
Alice: They’re like, I can’t use Snapchat. You tell my friend Mark that we’re going to the, the playground.
Bex: Um, so May takes the call. She’s running through the, the script, [01:20:00] what they’re supposed to do when they get calls. She’s, um, getting information, uh, either directly from Lisa or from what she can hear on the phone call. And Lisa starts to get very emotional as the, like, she starts to, as the drugs sort of really kick in, her voice is slurring and she’s crying.
And she starts questioning like, why may even cares. And May, this bit is weird ’cause May covers her microphone and says that she knows how Lisa feels. So I don’t know whether she was actually saying it to Lisa or whether she was just like saying it to herself because Lisa was going on and on about bullies. Um,
Alice: yeah, it was really like, I was like, she trying to hide it from Claudette, but she do covers the microphone, not covers the, like a, it it, I don’t get it.
Bex: No.
Ellen: Well, maybe she knew she wasn’t supposed to say that, which is what Claudette says [01:21:00] when she comes over. Wouldn’t she have said, you never say that,
Bex: but she had her hand over her microphone so Lisa wouldn’t have heard her
Ellen: Exactly. But Claudette didn’t see that. She just heard her saying it. I, and went, you shouldn’t say that. Anyway. Um, and also they have a mute button. Like she could have muted it and said like, anyway, it doesn’t matter. Um, for the drama,
Bex: She muted as soon as Claudette storms over so that Lisa doesn’t hear Claudette like, uh, ripping her new one.
Um, so Claudette insists that may, um, tell Lisa that May’s partner will be taking over the call, um, and when May refuses, like literally shakes her head at Claudette. Um, Claudette tries to once again physically move May out of the way, reaches for the buttons and May blurts out that she tried to kill herself when she was 14 because of [01:22:00] bullies.
And I don’t, it’s kind of, she’s not only trying to tell Lisa so that Lisa knows that that May actually does care because she relates, but she’s also trying to explain to Claudette that she’s not, when she said, I know how you feel. She wasn’t being dismissive, she wasn’t trying to make it all about you.
She was actually empathizing with the caller because she has been in that situation and while they’re talking, and I don’t know how, because we didn’t hear May give any kind of instructions over the phone. Um, the 144 have arrived on the scene and managed to find Lisa.
Alice: Yeah. Magic
Bex: how?
Ellen: Maybe she can dispatch someone without actually speaking to them.
Alice: Yeah. I was trying to work out if she did it, like, like if she could do it via texting, like via, you know, like buy it like,
Bex: like type it into the cad,
Ellen: just hit a button
Alice: typing it. Yeah.
Ellen: She, she typed all the details in, but did she [01:23:00] have an address? Like,
Bex: uh, yeah, they showed up on CAD that, um, she’d managed to ping an actual, an That’s true because it, she was on a, a mobile phone.
So she shouldn’t have been able to get an address. Um, but she did magically.
Ellen: Yeah.
Bex: I mean, yes, I will concede that perhaps you can type into CAD and then somehow that triggers an alarm at a house and sends them off. But so often we hear the dispatchers talking and actually like dispatching units. So
Ellen: Yeah, they did earlier in this episode. Yeah. Like Claudette was,
Bex: it’s always audio
Ellen: telling people to go.
Bex: Yeah.
Ellen: Yeah.
Bex: So there’s a happy ending. The 1 44 get there, they find Lisa. Um, it’s all good. And Claudette is surprised. She’s like, “How did you, how, like, how did [01:24:00] you know? How did you do that?” And May sort of spells out her thought process.
She said, from experience. She knows like from the one time that she tried to commit suicide that you never take a bottle of pills where someone can see you. It was either a bedroom or the bathroom, and I figured from the echo was the bathroom. And Claudette sort of looks at her a little bit differently and says, and I hate this part.
She says, “I know I ride you pretty hard because I, but it’s because I can see you have the potential to be great.”
Alice: Yeah,
Ellen: yeah. This is the kind of person who should never be a teacher.
Bex: No, but see the thing is I don’t think she is trying to teach May.
Alice: No,
Bex: I know that they, they could, like, they contrast Claudette and May and Buck and Ravi, and then you find out that all of this the shit that Buck was putting Ravi through was literally to train him to be Buck’s replacement.
And so you [01:25:00] go through this whole thing with Claudette and May, and then you get this line of dialogue from Claudette and you’re supposed to think it’s the same. You’re supposed to think that Claudette is doing this to like train up May to eventually replace her. Um, I like my head canon is that Claudette has learned that the, oh, it’s the same as when a little boy like pulls your hair or punches you and then everyone says, oh no, he’s just doing it ’cause he likes you.
I feel like Claudette has learned if she’s a hard ass and she’s a bitch and she like rides somebody really hard, if she turns around and says, oh, I’m just doing it so that I can train them, people accept that and she gets away with her bullshit behavior. That’s my head canon.
Ellen: Yeah. That kind of makes sense. It’s, yeah, it’s, there’s no excuse for her behavior though, like she takes over the calls and just,
Alice: yeah, like at least Buck is actually training. Like he’s doing it badly, but you know, he’s also,
Bex: well, he is not [01:26:00] doing it badly because as Bobby said, Buck, um, Ravi can now disassemble a chainsaw in under a minute.
Alice: Yeah.
Bex: So the way he’s, whatever he’s doing is working. It’s just his approach is not good. And I mean, that more goes to his, the state of his, like his mental state at that point.
Alice: His psych. Yeah, exactly.
Bex: But like, he’s actually training Ravi, whereas you don’t see any training from Claudette. You just see her swanning in taking over and then swanning off again.
Ellen: She tells May the things that she’s doing wrong. That’s about it.
Bex: But I don’t think she even tells her really what she’s doing wrong. She just like, you are doing it wrong. Don’t do this. It’s just, I just, I,
I really, I really hate Claudette and I really hate this storyline.
Alice: Yep.
Bex: And I really hate that we’re supposed to just, um, like forgive all of the shit that May has been putting up with for weeks on the like, oh, I’m, I’m just, I’m just trying to make you [01:27:00] better.
Alice: Yeah. I’m just making you better by being an absolute dick.
Ellen: Yeah. And after we go to the next scene, which is still in dispatch, um, May’s using her phone to look around a corner at Claudette again, like still don’t understand what she’s doing with that. But anyway, Claudette is speaking to a few other people, but she’s actually sitting like on the desk where May usually sits to work.
So May kind of squares her shoulders and then walks over and goes, excuse me, you’re in my way. And then, uh, she moves so she can sit down and that’s it. So yeah, bit more headbutting.
Bex: It’s, I don’t mind this scene, but I think that this works better when, if you look at it from the perspective of when Harry was saying, you know, you don’t, Claudette is bullying you because you take it and you need to push back and she’ll [01:28:00] stop.
And so this is May’s attempt to, I’m pushing back and so Claudette has for the moment stopped.
Alice: Yeah.
Bex: She like, she doesn’t say anything. She just gets up off May station and walks away with a kind of a look on her face that you, she realizes that May is no longer an easy target.
Ellen: I mean, she didn’t really have a choice in this case because she was sitting at her desk like, well, either I just ignore her until she goes away or I go and say something to her and she decided to take the initiative I suppose
Bex: I wonder if the, if she could have just gone and sat at another station. Because I’m assuming it’s like hot desking that you just log into whatever station.
Ellen: It does look that way.
Bex: You can log into, and it would’ve been like some, Josh would’ve gone like, why are you sitting at the awful desk in the corner that’s like directly under the air conditioning vent and the chair squeaks and it smells and May’s like, yeah.
Ellen: Surely, surely they all have their own earpieces. Like you wouldn’t just go around [01:29:00] putting the same earpiece into different people’s ears. Yeah. Um, so yeah, she could have done that anyway.
Bex: Um, oh God, it’s still going.
Ellen: That’s, that’s shitty storyline. It’s still going. Okay, so
Bex: that’s still going.
Ellen: This is a weird scene, actually. This is like a weird little happy bit before we go back into trauma. Buck is like just really sunny. Oh, so Ravi comes out first of the, of the locker room.
Bex: Yeah. It’s end of shift. Everyone’s going home.
Ellen: There’s happy music playing. Yeah. They’re all cheerful. Um. Buck actually calls him Ravi for the first time. Have a good one. Ravi.
Bex: He’s graduated. He gets a name, Buck’s eyes. He’s no longer just Probie.
Alice: Yeah. Even though he’s still just a probie.
Bex: Well now he’s like a 118 Probie, which is like not an an actual probie at all. Um, and, [01:30:00] and Ravi like takes a moment to sort of gather his courage to like face his bully head on.
Um, but he tells Buck that he’s, um, he’s on it. That Buck picked him to fill his shoes, but that he’s glad that he doesn’t have to because he likes being me. I’m like, I don’t quite understand that. ’cause Buck wasn’t trying to make you like Buck. He was just trying to like, short of sticking a cord like in your heads and manually downloading all of Buck’s knowledge into your head in one fell loop.
He was just trying to teach you everything that Buck knew. He wasn’t trying to make you into a mini Buck.
Ellen: Yeah. It is a weird thing to say,
Bex: it was just like an expedited training. But yeah, I think Ravis might have missed what, um, what Buck was doing if he was trying to make him be like Buck he would’ve been shoving him at [01:31:00] Eddie at every like, conceivable opportunity.
Like literally it’s like those like romantic comedies, like romance stories where like, um, one partner is dying so they try and, and get their living spouse or living, um, partner to hook up with their brother or somebody before they die.
Ellen: Oh,
Alice: oh my God. Yeah. It’s so weird.
Bex: So it’d be like, I’m leaving, so Eddie is my replacement.
Ellen: Yeah. Oh, all right. Uh, we go from this happy go lucky scene to more therapy.
Bex: Not enough therapy, but yes, more therapy. No way there enough. Yes. Athena and
Ellen: Michael are at the therapy with the therapist they saw before Athena was confused because she didn’t think they had an appointment today, but Michael got them in because he thinks they need therapy, so that’s good.
Bex: Well, he thinks Athena needs [01:32:00] therapy. They’re staging an intervention. Um,
Alice: yeah, they’re literally doing an intervention
Bex: because, uh, the therapist who name is apparently Dr. Nathanson says that Michael has filled her in on what happened. Um, and she thinks that it would be useful if they try something else because whatever what they’re doing at the moment is not helping.
So she hands Athena a list of names of good therapists. Athena is confused. She’s like, “wait, you’re not gonna see us anymore?” And um, the doctor’s like, “No, no, no. I, I will continue to see Harry. This list of names is for you. You need a therapist.”
Ellen: Yep. Yeah, you do.
Bex: And she, like, we’ve been saying, she immediately turns to Michael and go, “Is this your doing?” And he’s like, “You fucking hit Harry.”
Alice: Yeah. You slapped our child.
Bex: We swore we would never hit our kids. We [01:33:00] swore that we’d raised them differently than we were raised. And now you’re hitting Harry. Like you need therapy.
Ellen: I hope she’s actually gonna go this time
Bex: based on this TV show.
Alice: Yeah. I’m sure this will fix her.
Bex: What do you think the odd of that actually happening are?
Ellen: Yes.
Bex: Uh, but before we find out how Athena feels about being like. Having an intervention staged from her behalf and being forced to go to therapy. Um, somebody else who I hope is still in therapy, um, Buck comes home to the loft to find that Taylor is put out a spread and making, what is it when you put champagne into orange juice?
Is that a mimosa?
Alice: I think so?
Ellen: I do not remember.
Bex: Looks like she’s, hang on. That’s what you have at breakfast time, right? When you wanna drink at breakfast time. But you wanna be a respectable.
Ellen: Yeah, [01:34:00] I pretty, yeah. Is this breakfast that she’s cooked for him?
Bex: Well, that would kind of make sense because they do like 24 hour shifts. So if you start
Ellen: Yeah, it was morning when he left the station. So
Bex: yeah. Champagne and orange juice name is a mimosa.
Alice: Yes. There, there you go.
Bex: She’s making mimosas. Um, and the occasion is for Buck. It’s just for Buck. It’s all about Buck.
Alice: Yeah. This is so cute.
Ellen: It is.
Bex: So she’s trying, she’s trying her best to Buck him up to lift his spirits. Um, and he is touched and he says, “Hey, by the way, um, you were right about the earlier spiral that I was on. You know, nobody was actually mad at me about Chimney leaving. Um, yeah. But, uh, turns out that everybody else got to say goodbye but me. He didn’t wanna say goodbye to me. Nobody said goodbye to me before they left.”
So the spiral [01:35:00] has like changed directions, but it’s still spiraling. Yeah. But now he has mimosas while he is spiraling.
Alice: I’m sure that that’ll help.
Bex: And Taylor sort of looks at him, is like, oh shit, this is not good. Yeah, I don’t, I don’t have any anecdotes that’s gonna help out with this one.
Ellen: Well, at least he’s got Taylor there to keep him on the ground. Hopefully.
Bex: Yeah.
Ellen: For the moment anyway,
Bex: but that’s not the end of the episode.
Alice: That’s still going.
Ellen: Oh God.
Bex: We’re still going. Um, because while Buck is drinking mimosas and spelling his guts to Taylor, um, Athena is now ranting to her husband about her ex-husband. And what I love about this is Bobby is validating Athena’s feelings, but 100%, at no point does he tell her that she doesn’t need therapy and that Michael is [01:36:00] wrong.
He’s like, you know what? Yeah. Michael shouldn’t have sprung this on you. Um, he should have talked to you first, but yes. Go to therapy.
Ellen: Oh, he assures her that he’s gonna be right, right there fighting beside her.
Bex: Yes. And we take a quick detour over to, um. Michael’s loft and we see exactly what we’re fighting against.
Um, because Harry is on his iPad before dinner and we see that it’s not just like Jeffrey’s voice in his head anymore. He’s actively seeking out, um, pro Jeffrey Propaganda. ’cause he’s found a website, um, called Justice for Jeffrey Hudson. He’s reading about how Athena is the rogue cop who got away with murder.
Um, ’cause she shot and killed the innocent wrongfully accused Jeffrey Hudson.
Alice: This is so dumb. [01:37:00] So like he’s, oh my God, he’s known his mother his entire life. And then this guy kidnaps him, tries to kill him, and he is just like, yeah, down with my mum. Like what?
Ellen: It’s trauma. It makes people do weird things.
Alice: It is dumb.
Bex: It it, it is, it is a little bit dumb because we’ve never seen any sort of anti-cop thinking from Harry in the past.
Alice: Well, I mean, he was there when the gun got drawn at the traffic stop.
Bex: True. He did have to go through the traffic stop. Yeah. But then like, again, like we’ve said with this show that they had that and then we didn’t see any other kind of trauma from Harry.
He was fine. We didn’t, they didn’t bother sort of following up with that. So if there was any kind of lingering resentment against cops, we didn’t see it until now.
Ellen: And also it’s really easy [01:38:00] to go down like YouTube rabbit holes.
Bex: Oh, it’s incredibly easy. Um, and especially at that age, it’s really easy to believe everything you read on the internet. Yeah, especially if you want to believe everything that you’re reading on the internet.
Ellen: I hate that we have to see him go through it though, because it’s enough like trying to keep my own children from seeing stuff online and then this, it’s like, oh, it does feel a bit too real. Yeah. It, it might be dumb, but it, it happens unfortunately.
Bex: Yes. But that’s still not the end of the episode.
Ellen: Yeah.
Bex: We’ve got one more scene to get through. Um, it’s still going. Last scene, I promise. So hours later everyone’s in bed asleep, um, Buck’s, phone starts buzzing. Um, but it’s an unknown number. And, [01:39:00] um, but Buck, as of the age, I don’t think he would answer an unknown call, but the people writing are of the age that they would answer a phone no matter what. So he picks up,
Alice: it’s like Albert being like, that’s what texts are for like Yes, Buck is all Buck’s my age. I don’t answer phone calls, but I guess like, maybe he’s waiting for his sister. So, and Chim, so maybe
Bex: what, like, why is Maddie calling him from an unknown number?
Ellen: Yeah. In the middle of the night?
Alice: For the drama. Maybe she thinks she’s, he’s working?
Bex: But an unknown number?
Alice: Don’t fucking know.
Bex: I don’t,
Alice: I don’t fucking know. Anyway,
Bex: anyway, it’s Maddie. Um, and she’s calling to ask Buck why Chimney is in Utah. ‘ cause you know, that’s something that needs to be, uh, asked in the middle of the night
Alice: and can’t just be texted.
Bex: It can’t just be [01:40:00] texted.
Ellen: Is it the middle of the night though, or is Buck just catching up on some sleep? Well, Taylor’s having nap too.
Bex: Well Taylor’s asleep next to him. Yeah. But, and it’s, everything is dark and he had to turn on the light in order to, um, like answer the phone. So I’m assuming
Alice: maybe he has really good blockout curtains.
Ellen: Yeah. On his whole like loft apartment.
Alice: Yeah, the whole loft.
Bex: Plus if we are kind of assuming that the timeline is not so timey-wimey in this episode, then we went at Michael’s house, he was having dinner, so then it would make sense that this is like later in the evening,
Ellen: I guess.
Bex: Uh,
Ellen: I guess that makes sense.
Bex: Nothing else does. Um,
Ellen: no.
Bex: So yes, apparently Chimney sent Maddie a video of Jee-Yun crawling and somehow in the, um, email Maddie was able to deduce that [01:41:00] Chimney was in Utah.
Ellen: Yeah.
Alice: Yeah. I mean, I guess I think in the video he, he probably said, Hey, I’m in Utah looking for you. Or maybe he just like filmed it and there was a bunch of Mormons behind him. I don’t know,
Ellen: maybe there was some real big mountains or a lake or something,
Bex: I don’t know. But Buck, Buck tells Maddie that he’s in the Chimneys in Utah because he’s looking for Maddie because he found out what happened to Jee-Yun.
And not because Buck told him, but because he, he like, he found out on his own and Buck starts begging Maddie to tell him where she is. Um, and he’ll come and get her or he’ll send chimney or like he’ll just do something. But he just needs to know that she’s safe. And then you can hear through the phone, um, bell start ringing and Maddie immediately ends the call
Alice: and [01:42:00] I mean, she does say that she loves him, which is cute ’cause you know, Maddie has issues saying that, so it’s cute. Yeah. But yeah, when Buck hangs up, Taylor’s like, is she okay? And Buck’s like, yeah, I think so. And I think I know where she is.
Bex: Dun dun dun.
Ellen: It was kind of funny ’cause there was this like sort of a bit ominous music playing and then all of a sudden it just went dead silent for the bells to ring. And then, and then the music started up again afterwards. I’m like, wow. Guess that’s important.
Bex: Did you hear those bells? Are those, those bells might be important. Did you hear them?
Alice: Were their bells? I dunno.
Ellen: There’s like this neon sign pointing to the bells.
Bex: And that finally is the end of the episode.
Alice: Yay. Um, yeah, I did not remember that episode at all. Like, watching it tonight was like watching it or brand new again,
Bex: I remembered Buck walking around the station house yelling for, [01:43:00] for Ravi with the chainsaw. That’s pretty much all I for,
Alice: no, remember zero of it,
Bex: but yeah, other than like the very, very relatable, um, mental spiral that Buck went on, um, I hate this episode. I hate Claudette. I hate the fact that they tried to equate Buck, um, like spiraling and trying to train Ravi to replace him with Claudette being an absolute cunt and bullying May. Um,
Ellen: yeah,
Bex: I don’t like, I don’t like that the episode title does not match the, they try to do a thematic episode, but then they got the episode title wrong, so it doesn’t work.
Ellen: Yeah, it doesn’t match with the, the actual theme, which was a bit all over the place in total. Yeah. Um, as you said. Not my favorite. There was some sweet lighthearted bits like [01:44:00] here and there sprinkled around. But yeah, that didn’t make up for the, I mean, it, not a lot happened in this episode. Like we were saying at the beginning, it’s a bit of a nothing filler episode in the middle.
Like all the storylines kind of progressed, but in a,
Bex: it’s not, I don’t, I wouldn’t say it’s…
Ellen: Not very interesting way?
Bex: Yeah. It’s not filler. It’s like it’s character progression. So it is like,
Alice: it’s like a gap, like bridging the gap
Bex: and sort of exploring everyone, exploring Buck’s interior and exploring what’s going on in Athena’s head and exploring what’s going on in Harry’s head. Um,
Ellen: yeah, I guess we can’t complain about it nothing much happening and be happy about the fact that they’re allowing the trauma to develop.
Bex: Right.
Ellen: So I guess we have to allow them some filler episodes sometimes
Bex: they can’t explore their trauma and have an action packed episode at the same time. [01:45:00] You either get action or you get trauma. Apparently you can’t have both.
Ellen: Yeah.
Alice: Yeah.
Ellen: There’s just no pleasing some people
Bex: Us. Some people it’s us.
Ellen: There’s no pleasing us.
Bex: We’re some people.
Ellen: Alright, well, tell me there’s something more exciting next in the next episode.
Alice: Oh, there’s not. I’m so sorry. I’m so sorry.
Bex: I guess it depends on your, your approach to this episode.
Ellen: okay.
Bex: Next week, here’s the summary. Um, responding to a fire at a prison, Bobby and the 118 find themselves trapped in a deadly riot.
That’s all the summary tells. That’s all the summary tells you.
Ellen: Wow. Okay.
Bex: Um, so
Alice: triggers include
Bex: the triggers, um, include the American prison system, uh, abdominal surgery, child threat, my favorite cops, uh, a [01:46:00] hostage situation, organ donation or, and or transplantation. A prison riot, um, surgery slash heart transplant to go along with the organ donation transplantation, uh, suicide by self inflected gunshot, threat of gun violence, threat of physical violence, stabbing.
And Mark PeIIegrino.
Ellen: Oh, fuck. No. Really?
Bex: Really?
Alice: Yeah.
Ellen: Oh
Bex: yeah.
Ellen: Okay.
Bex: We’re so sorry. And it’s gonna be a really interesting episode.
Ellen: I did actually know that he turned up sooner or later, but I didn’t know it was now. Um,
Bex: it’s gonna be a really interesting episode to talk about because, um. I feel like this episode could have been very, very different if it had not been starring Mark PeIIegrino, but we’ll see what you think um, once you’ve seen the episode.
Alice: Yeah.
Bex: Yeah.
Ellen: Okay. [01:47:00]
Alice: This episode, I remember vividly, vividly. I remember this episode.
Bex: No spoilers.
Alice: No spoilers.
Ellen: Okay. All right. Cool.
Bex: Something to look forward to next week.
Ellen: Yeah. Ah, crossover from hell. Okay. Literally,
Tell us, tell us what you thought. Like, like, I know we’ve, we’ve all said that we didn’t like this episode, but there must be someone out there who did. I don’t know. Maybe
Alice: I, maybe
Bex: I liked Buck’s storyline in this episode,
Alice: I just like seeing Taylor Kelly. And I like Buck having a partner.
Ellen: She’s your highlight every week.
Alice: Literally, um, I like Buck having a partner that’s caring for him.
Ellen: Yeah.
Alice: Because like
Ellen: she’s so supportive.
Alice: Yeah. Like Abby was very like, obviously her mom was dying, so like, I get it, but you know, Buck did a lot for Abby and Abby ditched him and [01:48:00] abandoned him. And so, you know, and Buck already has issues with that.
Um, whereas, you know, Taylor’s like, oh, you feel like shit. Like, okay, maybe it’s not about you, and then let’s make this about you in a good way. Like, I’m making you breakfast for you.
Ellen: Yeah. She knows how to Buck him up.
Alice: Yeah. They’re just so cute together. I love them. I love her.
Ellen: I literally have nothing else to ask about this episode.
It’s just like,
Bex: do you also, like,
Ellen: let’s leave this one behind.
Bex: Buck and Taylor Kelly, do you also think, do you agree that Athena should get therapy? Um,
Alice: oh my God.
Bex: Are you also dreading to have to watch the Mark PeIIegrino episode next week? Um, let us know. We don’t blame you. Let,
Alice: we don’t blame you if you skip it. Uh, it’s not a bad episode though, [01:49:00] like, well see,
Bex: that’s the thing.
Alice: As I said, I remember it vividly. We just don’t like Mark Pellegrino. Um, so our, our guest next week will be Mark PeIIegrino.
Bex: Oh, fuck no. This must, this conversation must be so surreal for anybody who is listening to this who is not from the Supernatural fandom. Like, why
Alice: oh, true.
Bex: What the, what is the big deal with Mark PeIIegrino?
Ellen: Yeah. Why do they hate this guy?
Alice: I mean, hey, they, they may also be in the Dexter fandom and he was pretty shitty there too.
Bex: Really?
Alice: Oh yeah. He plays bad guy real fucking well because,
Bex: well, that’s ’cause, he is in my opinion, he’s a bad guy.
Alice: Yeah. Um, but yeah, I knew him from Dexter. Oh, oh, okay. Um, he was literally the, like the, one of the first bad guys in Dexter.
Ellen: Okay. Right. Well, if you haven’t seen Supernatural, he is like literally Lucifer. Um, and like [01:50:00] he was, he was good in the first few seasons, but then it kind of dragged on and they kept bringing him back and it was just like, okay, go away please.
Bex: And he’s just good guy. I’ll guy just say that I never had an issue with his, um, depiction of Lucifer and even, yeah,
Ellen: I mean, in the, even like up to season five, it was, it was fine. It was good.
Bex: And I even kind of understood where they were taking the storyline with Nick, I have issues with Mark PeIIegrino as a person.
Ellen: Oh, yeah. Yeah, that too. But I, yeah, the latest seasons, I was just sick of them bringing him back as well.
Bex: Yeah. I have lots of issues with the later seasons. I mean, that’s just one of them.
Ellen: Yeah.
Bex: But that’s a whole different story for a different podcast.
Ellen: That’s a whole other show. Yeah. Yeah. Um, yes, please tell us what you thought about this particular episode.
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Alice: Thanks again for everyone who had us in their Spotify wrapped.
Ellen: Yes. If you haven’t shared it with us, please let us know. We, uh, we love seeing that. It makes us happy.
Uh, thank you everyone for listening this week, and we will talk to you next time about episode six, which is called.
Alice: Mark PeIIigrino
Ellen: Cell Block
Bex: Brawl in cell block,
Ellen: cell block 9-1-1?
Bex: “Brawl in Cell Block 9-1-1”.
Ellen: Okay, so
Bex: it’s, it’s a catchy title and it’s a,
Ellen: it is a difficult to say title.
Bex: It’s a good storyline. It’s just unfortunate who they chose as the, the, the guest star. But we’ll get that at next week.
Ellen: Alright, we’ll see you then.
Bex: Bye.
Alice: Bye.
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[outtake 1]
Alice: No, Jess. Is Jess just messaged going, I’m finally dipping my heels into the Heated Rivalry show. Yeah, I guess can we just discuss Dean Winchester Beat Sheet and heated rivalry tonight? Instead, people will tune in expecting “Peer Pressure” and I’ll be just like, oh my God. So Dean and Cas just had this like weird semi argument in the science, like in the chem lab, and then some guy busted in and broke Dean’s nose and now they’re on the way to the hospital and I have to read, I have to listen to this fucking show instead.
Ellen: I can’t [01:53:00] remember.
Bex: Ellen, have you read Dean Winchester Beat Sheet?
Alice: Ellen’s the one that got me into Dean Winchester Beat. It’s all’s Ellen’s fault.
Ellen: Okay. Yeah, I was the one who suggested it to her in the first place.
Alice: Ah, okay. She didn’t, she didn’t even know me at the time. She mentioned it like twice in, um, Mixtape. And one of them, they were talking about the, um, the Pride Parade, and I was like, oh yeah, this like, seems like a good time. And it’s, it was all downhill from there.
Ellen: Yeah. Okay.
[outtake 2]
Ellen: And no, I haven’t watched Heated Rivalry yet. It, it’s a tricky one because, um, I was gonna watch it during the day while I was working, and then I was like,
Bex: Nope, nope. You can’t do that.
Ellen: Do I really wanna get distracted by porn during the day?
Bex: You can’t.
Ellen: And then, then it was like, if I watch it at nighttime, I’m gonna have to hide somewhere to watch because, there are too many people around.
Bex: It’s also definitely not safe for work.
Alice: Oh god no. Yeah. It’s like in the, in the actual literal sense, not safe for work. [01:54:00]
Ellen: No. Yeah, no, I figured that. But like
Bex: I was telling Alice last week, I’m really glad that I waited until the kids were at their dad’s to watch it, because at one point in the second episode, I literally screamed out loud.
Ellen: Wow.
Bex: And that would’ve been very hard to explain my kids why, what’s up, what’s happening? Like, nothing, nothing to
Alice: nothing!
Bex: Don’t look at my laptop screen,
Ellen: uh, I’ll get around to it eventually. Otherwise, it, it’s frustrating not knowing what everyone’s talking about.
Alice: Yeah. Right. Like this is, I, I rarely watch things while everyone else is watching them because I just, I’m that type of person. Um Mm. So I’m very excited that, like, jumped on board at the start.
I’m pretty sure. Like Toni was just like, oh yes, gay hockey. And I’m like, oh yes, that’s right. I have seen the trailer for this. I am here. Here and seated.
Bex: Yeah.
Ellen: Yep.
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