Welcome to That Weewoo Show: a podcast where Alice, Ellen and Bex watch and discuss every episode of ABC’s TV show, 9-1-1.
In this episode we discuss episode 9 of the fifth season of 9-1-1, titled “Past Is Prologue”.
Bobby and the 118 race to the rescue when an abandoned oil well erupts and causes a massive sinkhole in downtown LA. Athena investigates a 30-year-old cold case involving a casino robbery.
Content warnings for episode 5.09:
car accident, mention of domestic violence, cheating, threat of gun violence, gambling, references to the prison system.
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Episode Transcript
Maddie: [00:00:00] 9-1-1. What’s your emergency?
Ellen: Welcome back to That Weewoo Show, a podcast where we watch and discuss episodes of the A, B, C show, 9-1-1. I’m Ellen.
Alice: I’m Alice,
Bex: and I’m Bex.
Ellen: And thank you so much to everyone who has been listening to our season five episodes. I don’t think we’re halfway through yet. What are we up to? Episode nine?
Bex: We have one more and then we get the
Ellen: roughly halfway?
Bex: season hiatus.
Ellen: Right. There you go. Uh, well thank you for also to everyone who’s been leaving comments and sharing our posts around. We love you. Thank you. Um, this week we are going to. Talk about, yeah. Episode nine, “Past is Prologue”. But first, Alice, could you catch us up on what happened [00:01:00] last week?
Alice: Uh, yeah. So last week on 9-1-1, an explosion at a hospital resulted in Buck holding some babies.
Ellen: Yay.
Alice: Um, also Bobby proposed to David for Michael, and then David and Michael moved to Haiti forever.
Bex: This week on 9-1-1, Bobby and the 118 race to the rescue when an abandoned oil well erupts and causes a massive sinkhole in downtown LA.
I think that’s actually more information than we get in the episode. There’s nothing in the episode tells you that it’s an abandoned oil well.
Ellen: No, and I don’t, I don’t even think they refer to it as a sinkhole ever.
Bex: Not really.
Ellen: They’re just like
Bex: hole in the road, oil guyser.
Ellen: It’s like, it’s like hardly any of this episode, to be honest.
Bex: Yeah, it’s the opening emergency. And I, and that’s it.
Alice: And that’s about it. Yeah.
Bex: Also Athena investigates a 30-year-old cold case involving a casino robbery, Buck fears [00:02:00] his relationship with Taylor might be ending, uh, because women flee from him routinely and Hen meets a man from her mother, Toni’s past.
Triggers for this episode include a car accident, uh, mention of domestic violence, uh, cheating, uh, threat of gun violence. Uh, I’m gonna throw in gambling just in case anybody gets triggered by that, possibly also references to the prison system.
Alice: Yeah.
Bex: And, uh, yeah, I think that’s it for the triggers for this week.
Ellen: Yeah, it’s more mild episode trigger wise, I guess.
Bex: Yes.
Ellen: But this, what this episode does have is a bunch of different storylines that don’t really go together. Like as we go through, maybe we can try and work that out, but, [00:03:00] um, I don’t know. It doesn’t,
Bex: it’s, it’s another, it’s another one where the attempting to do a themed episode where everyone’s storyline has to do with something from their past, but I don’t know, bring, I, I can’t believe I’m saying this. Bring back Kristen Riedel and shoving a theme down our throat until we are sick of it, because at least those episodes made sense, right?
You, you read the episode title, you went, okay, that’s what the episode’s gonna be about. And then every single storyline hit the mark.
Ellen: Yeah,
Bex: when it came to that theme, like incredibly on the nose about it in some instances,
Alice: yeah, we hated the themes, but
Bex: at least, at least we knew what we were getting ourselves in for. This one’s like, ah, it’s one of, it’s like, um, you know, when you go to a themed party and that everyone has their interpretations of the theme. This is a themed episode where everyone just, it’s an interpretation of the theme.
Ellen: A good way to [00:04:00] describe it.
Bex: So, so I think probably the best place to start would be, the title of the episode, which is “Past is Prologue”, which is a quote from William Shakespeare.
Ellen: Oh, okay.
Alice: How does Buck know that quote then?
Bex: Well, that’s the thing. I don’t actually know that Buck would know this quote, um, or that he would be able to use it semi correctly. Um,
Ellen: he probably, he probably heard someone say it and was like. That sounds cool.
Alice: Buck’s never seen a movie in his life. I don’t know how he knows what a prologue is.
Bex: Well, I mean, we could also argue that, um, he was never into pop culture, but perhaps classical pop culture.
Alice: You think that boy can read?
Bex: The amount of Wikipedia articles that he consumed? Yes.
Alice: Yeah. He probably just got into a [00:05:00] random wiki spiral and learned everything about Shakespeare on Wiki and Wiki quotes.
Ellen: Um, so, and then he watched like the, um, Leonardo DiCaprio, Romeo and Juliet movie and that that was it. He was off then.
Bex: So yeah, so it, it comes from The Tempest, it’s Act two, scene one of The Tempest, um, and it’s from the character Antonio and says, “By what destiny to perform an act where of what’s past is prologue, what to come in yours and my discharge.” It basically it’s, what
Alice: was that about discharge?
Bex: To do not physical discharge, discharge as an actions to do,
Alice: right, sorry, yup,
Bex: it basically means, you know, that whole idea of everything in my life has led to this moment, and it’s prepared me for what I’m about to do and what’s going to happen in my life next?
That’s what it is. Everything in the past is the context for what is about to happen moving forwards. Everything that you’ve done has prepared you for what you’re about to do now.
Ellen: Mm-hmm. [00:06:00]
Alice: Yeah. Great quote. I just don’t buy that Buck would know it. And you know, I’m, I’m a Buck defender. I love, oh my God. You know what? Taylor probably mentioned it to like, said it to him once.
Bex: Aw.
Alice: She, she was like writing a story about like, you know, how awful America was and she mentioned it and he’s just like, I’m gonna be so smart next time I mention that.
Bex: All right. The writer. Yeah. I would love to know what. Went on in the writer’s room because this guy feels like a ringer. He has done exactly one episode of 9-1-1. This episode.
Alice: Wow.
Ellen: Interesting. But he’s written other stuff, right?
Bex: Oh, yeah. Yeah. He’s, he looks like he is an established TV writer. He was executive producer, I believe, and very heavily involved in a Dusk Till Dawn TV series.
Alice: There was a Dusk Till Dawn TV series?
Bex: There was a Dusk Till Dawn [00:07:00] TV series. There was a MCU TV series that he wrote a couple of episodes for. Um, so I’m, I’m kind of not well based on this episode, I am kind of doubting his writer’s credentials. I’m just interested in why, because normally when we watch these, we recognize the writer’s names.
Alice: Yeah. ’cause they usually do a couple episodes.
Bex: Yeah. And
Ellen: why is there only one episode? I, I was confused when I first got into this because the writing was like, it was funny, like the, the early part of the episode’s quite funny and snappy, but it didn’t feel like any of like previous episodes. If, if that makes sense. Like it, it was
Bex: Yeah. That, that makes sense.
Ellen: Different. Yeah. Yeah. And that, that’s why
Bex: I, I do have a theory about why, but that’s gonna go in the season five wrap up episode. Um, because it’s will contain spoilers, [00:08:00] but yeah. Um, first and last episode from 9-1-1, never seen him before. Never see him again. Um, and the
Alice: quick drive by,
Bex: it was directed by Marcus Stokes, who’s done “Fallout” and “Blindsided”.
Ellen: Yeah. Both pretty great action episodes.
Bex: Yes. Which is weird since it, I, I mean, I guess he was good for the, the opening emergency was done well,
Ellen: yeah, it was very exciting.
Bex: So
Ellen: the rest of the episode didn’t really have anything exciting in it at all. It was all just interpersonal relationship stuff.
Bex: Oh, yeah. But some of that interpersonal relationship stuff was god damn funny.
Ellen: Oh yeah. But like, not, not action is what I mean, like
Bex: No, no. It was very much character. It was a character episode.
Ellen: Anyway, we should probably talk about what actually happened in the episode. So, so yeah, this opening emergency is, [00:09:00] I wanna say the only, maybe there’s one other emergency in the episode, but yeah, this is pretty much it.
Bex: Well, I mean, the only other emergency wise emergency that we see them get called to is Clive, and
Ellen: Yeah,
Bex: that really doesn’t count, I don’t think.
Alice: Yeah.
Bex: So, yeah.
Ellen: So. They do set up like they, nothing bad happens to these people, but Well, arguably. Um, but we do get a bit of a David Wallacing at the beginning.
Like we have to meet these people before we can care about what happens to them. So we do get to meet Gabby who is having about to have a driving test and she’s freaking out a little bit, but she’s giving herself a pep talk. Like, “You can do this, Gabby.”
Bex: apparently she has moved to California from Brooklyn. Um, and because she’s from Brooklyn, she’s never had to drive before. But
Alice: yeah, nobody drives in New York ’cause there’s too much traffic.
Bex: Nobody, nobody drives in New York, but you have to be able to drive in LA [00:10:00] because you literally cannot walk anywhere.
Alice: Yeah.
Ellen: But when she tries to tell her story to the, the lady who gets in, like the examiner basically, she’s does not care.
Alice: Yeah. This is a terrible time to trauma dump. Um,
Ellen: she’s nervous and she’s,
Alice: she’s like, “Oh my God. Like I just had a breakup. I’ve had to move halfway across the country for a fresh start. Rah rah.” And like Chloe, who’s the examiner, is like, “um, just turn right up here?”
Bex: Yep. Nope,
Alice: you’re
Ellen: like, just
Alice: not gonna turn. Just keep going. Okay, cool. Yep. I’ll just like,
Bex: it’s, it’s, it’s combination nerves because she’s doing a driving test and nerves because she thinks her driving instructor is hot.
Alice: Oh yeah. Absolutely. Yeah. Also because she’s apparently failed like multiple times
Ellen: and she does the thing where one thing goes wrong and then she thinks she’s just already failed. So, yeah. Which is exactly what I did in my driving test. Um, but amazingly I didn’t fail, but I [00:11:00] spent the next like 10 minutes absolutely bricking it as I was driving around, because I was like, I’ve already failed. I’ve already failed right now. But when we got to the end, she was like, okay, I gave you two strikes, but you didn’t get three, so you passed.
I’m like, oh my God.
Alice: Um, yeah, they pull you over if you fail too badly.
Ellen: Oh, do they? Because they’re like you, you’re not fit to drive, get out.
Alice: Yeah. Like they, they just put like, as soon as you get three strikes, they just pull you over rather than making you do the whole thing.
Ellen: Right.
Alice: Or at least they do down here. I don’t know about, and they did well, you know, long ago when I got my driver’s license.
Ellen: Right. Anyway, she doesn’t fail, um, even though she doesn’t see the red light until they’re almost on it, and then she, sort of screeches to a halt. Chloe starts warming up to her a little bit once she’s told the story about how she left Brooklyn and blah, blah, blah.
Bex: I think Chloe starts to warm up to her when she, when Gabby is trauma dumping, and she mentions that her [00:12:00] ex is a girl.
Alice: Yeah.
Bex: I don’t know if Gabby did pass the test or not. They didn’t really get a chance to finish it.
Alice: Yeah, I don’t,
Ellen: no. Well, you can’t fail for like, driving into a sinkhole. I mean, They didn’t know that was coming.
Bex: She took her seatbelt off.
Alice: She did take her
Bex: That’s get her another strike.
Alice: Anyway, yeah, so they bond, Chloe’s like, you know, you, you did the right thing moving out here. And just as they’re warming up to each other, a sinkhole opens up and swallows the car. And apparently the sinkhole was caused by an oil geyser,
Bex: but when we say it swallows the car, it wasn’t that the car goes like into the sinkhole. It’s kind of teetering on the edge of the sink, sinkhole and the, there’s an oil guyser that’s kind of keeping it level. Which is just weird.
Ellen: Yeah, I, I wasn’t sure what was actually going on here. Like, is there some, like an oil pipe that is ruptured and there’s spewing oil up into the air? Or is it [00:13:00] just oil in the ground?
Bex: According to the summary it’s an abandoned oil well, and I’m guessing some kind of tectonic activity has shifted and cracked something and caused it to spurt, and then the pressure of the oil is what has caused the road to break open. But they don’t really care about why it happened or how it happened.
Yeah. We just wanted it happen so we could have the emergency.
Alice: Exactly.
Ellen: Well, I’m just, I’m just confused as whether there’s actually like, just random abandoned oil wells underneath LA
Bex: Apparently
Alice: Buck will tell you later.
Bex: Um, actually
Ellen: I, I’m not gonna actually go and Google it, but if someone knows,
Bex: Buck does know I, I later does completely later, completely tuned him out when he was explaining, but yeah, apparently he does.
Ellen: Obviously I did too, but
Alice: it’s fine. I listened to him.
Bex: Of course you listen to him, honey,
Alice: unless he’s in shorts, in which case I,
Bex: it just becomes blah, blah, blah.
Ellen: His mouth, his mouth moves, but no words. I’m making sense. Um, [00:14:00] anyway, yes, Gabby is okay, but, and she, I think she rings 9-1-1 before she knows that Chloe is injured, but Chloe’s kind of not really breathing very well and she’s just sort of like not saying anything.
And she gets May on the phone. And when, uh, May asks if anyone’s injured, then Gabby realizes that, Chloe, as the airbags have gone off the pen she had in her hand has now stabbed through her chest.
Alice: Yeah,
Bex: yeah. We’re just, we’re just gonna go with it and just go, yep. That, that makes sense.
Ellen: It sounds kind of painful. Extremely painful and probably implausible, but anyway,
Bex: I, I mean
Ellen: she’s,
Bex: you know how last week we were sitting here kind of giving ourselves sternal rubs to try and figure out how much they would hurt? Um, I was sitting there sort of poking at my chest to try and figure out like whether I think a pen could have [00:15:00] gotten through and it would’ve, it, it would be one of those, it has those,
Ellen: it has to start between ribs and,
Bex: yeah. It’s just like the one in one in 10000th chance that it hit it right. Just the right angle that it got through between the ribs and didn’t bounce off, or the rib cage or hit the sternum bone or something. Yeah.
Ellen: Jesus.
Bex: Yeah. Um, so yeah,
Ellen: for the drama, she has a pen sticking on her chest,
Bex: For the drama she has a, I’m gonna say that it’s like a good quality metal fountain pen that has pierced her chest and as May says, probably punctured her lungs.
So she’s having trouble breathing. Um, and it’s all okay though because the 118 have been dispatched.
Alice: Yeah. And,
Ellen: and she, she’s very good. May doesn’t actually tell her not to, to pull the pen out, but she doesn’t actually pull the pen out. She just leaves it there.
Alice: No, she does, she says
Ellen: she’s been impaled.
Alice: “As long as the pen stays in, she should be fine.”[00:16:00]
Bex: Yes. Gabby’s with, should I do something with the implication being should I pull it out?
Alice: Yeah. It’s like, no.
Bex: And I did like that, you know how I’ve been bitching in the last couple of episodes that they wait until the truck arrives and Bobby climbs out before he starts doing his exposition captain thing? Um, they actually have him do it while they’re on route.
Alice: Yes.
Bex: Which is nice. Yeah. He’s doing it over the radio while he is riding shotgun in the, the front of the truck.
Alice: Yeah. They have a lot of radio chat this episode and I missed it, so I quite enjoyed it.
Bex: Yes.
Alice: But anyway, yeah. So they’ve advised DWP to shut off the power. They’re closing the, the street. Um, they’re, they’ve asked for a team of engineers to cap the well and they need to foam the area to try and stop any accidental sparks igniting the oil. ’cause there’s oil everywhere. Um, and it will just catch and fire and explode [00:17:00] if there’s any sparks,
Bex: much like the hospital did last.
Alice: Yeah,
Ellen: they can’t open, they can’t open the hatch like the back of the car, um, because it’s stuck. So, and they can’t sort open, they can’t use the jaws because if there’s a spark, the whole thing’s gonna go up. So the the, the guys just stand around at the back of this car, like having an argument about what they’re going to do.
Alice: Yeah, it’s great. Like Buck’s, like, “oh, gimme the jaws,” and Bobby’s just like, “whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Negative, negative stop. Nope, nope. Buck, nope. Buck, Buck. No, no.” Um, and Eddie’s like, “oh, isn’t that what the foam is for?” And Bobby’s like, “Nope. Foam’s just a bandaid. It’s okay for a spark or two, but not if you’re cutting into metal.”
Bex: And the great thing about this argument is that they are shouting while they are doing this because the sound of the oil is so loud that they can’t just have a normal conversation. Yeah. And the way that they’ve done the sound [00:18:00] during this scene is. They’ve asked the, they haven’t like done ADR and so it’s nice and clear.
You can literally hear them shouting at each other over the sound of the geyser, which I think is a nice touch.
Ellen: Yeah. And it also means that Gabby can’t hear whether, um, Chloe is breathing properly or not. So she has to like, take her seatbelt off and like cozy up to her so that they can have a little cuddle. Um, so she can actually hear her breathing.
Alice: And when she takes her seatbelt off, Chloe’s like, I’m gonna have to dock you for that.
Ellen: And Gabby’s like, “I guess you’re not too bad then because you’re making jokes.”
Bex: Uh, Hen on the other hand, does think that it’s that bad because she, Gabby relays what she’s hearing back to May, who relays through to, Hen. Hen immediately takes off running and tells the men folk that, um, whatever they’re gonna do, they’re gonna do it quickly because she believes that Chloe has a sucking chest wound.
And if [00:19:00] they don’t get them out soon, she’s gonna drown in her own blood. So Eddie says, well, the first thing we need to do, if we need to cap that well, cap that oil, stop it so that we can, you know, take action.
Ellen: And Bobby gets light bulb above his head and I’m like, oh my God. What, what? Uh, okay. It’s insane plan that Bobby has come up with that he reckons they can cap it themselves using
Bex: Yeah.
Ellen: The car.
Bex: Yeah. So while Bobby has got his insane plan going, Chloe and Gabby are having a bit of a heart to heart in the car, which doesn’t last long because Chloe starts coughing, blood starts pouring out of her mouth, and the force of the coughs expel the pen out. So suddenly she’s like. As much as oil is guysering from the well, blood is guysering from her chest and she’s [00:20:00] freaking out.
May keeps her under control, just says find something. She gets napkins out of the center console, um, slaps ’em on her chest. She just “keep the pressure on there. Fire and rescue will be able to get you out in a minute. They just need to move your car.” And, uh, Gabby’s like, “yeah, okay wait, move the car. Where are they moving it to?”
Alice: Yeah. Move it to where?
Bex: And then we get, it’s a pretty cool shot of um, multiple members of the 118 lined up behind Gabby’s car under the oil, just pushing the car forward.
Ellen: Yeah. I’m like, you really wanna push the car right into a sinkhole? Like is this a good idea?
Alice: Sure. Why not?
Ellen: Sinkholes,
Bex: I seriously question.
Ellen: Tend to get bigger over time. And they do swallow things. Like
Bex: that’s the one thing nobody has like secured the, like shored up the area around to make sure that it doesn’t get bigger. Yeah. I was also questioning whether that little car, which I’m assuming is like plastic, um, and two very slim [00:21:00] young women are going to have enough weight in order to cap said oil well.
Ellen: Yeah. Well they don’t for very long.
Alice: They don’t, yeah. That’s why like even the guys are like, what happens? Um, like they all jump on it so that they’re keeping it down as much as they can.
Bex: Yeah.
Ellen: Anyway, it works for a little while
Bex: for the drama. It works. Yes.
Ellen: Yeah.
Bex: Um, Buck and Eddie are able to climb a ladder up onto the top of the car.
They break the sunroof, they haul Gabby out, who is reluctant to leave Chloe until back and Eddie reassure her that in order to help Gabby, they need room in the car. So she needs to get out and they swap. Uh, Gabby with Hen and then that’s pretty much it. They Hen gets in there and
Ellen: Yeah, I don’t, says yes. I was gonna say, I don’t think Hen does much. She just, they just pull her out.
Bex: No, she like, looks at the wound goes, yeah, this is more serious than I thought. We need to get her outta here. They get her out, the weight starts to shift.
Ellen: E either they’re, um, [00:22:00] extremely strong or they lift out like a doll version of Ga of like Chloe, because they just like pull her out by her arm. Like, it looks really strange,
Bex: I’m gonna say because that it was Eddie lifting from the top, pulling from the top and Hen like lifting and pushing from the bottom. So between the two of them, um, she’s also tiny. She looks tiny.
Ellen: Yeah.
Bex: Um, but yeah, as they, as they get, Chloe out Hen starts to climb out and the car starts to like move and buck underneath them. Um, and, and when they finally get everybody off the car, get the ladder off the car, back away to a safe distance, um, the car just flips, like someone doing a bottle toss,
Alice: literally.
Ellen: And there’s oil everywhere again.
Bex: And there is oil everywhere. Although not over the 118, they [00:23:00] seem to be remarkably clean. Um,
Ellen: oh
Bex: yeah. I, I noticed when, like Buck was climbing the ladder up that, you know, even though he’d been standing under the oil, pushing the car me seconds earlier, his turnout looked incredibly clean.
Um, so either that material is incredibly stain and water resistant, like it literally rolls right off, or they kind of shot it at a sequence. I will accept both answers to that.
Ellen: Yeah.
Bex: Um, both things can be true at once.
Ellen: I did not even notice that.
Alice: No, I wasn’t looking that close enough. To be fair, I was watching on my phone screen in the car too, so,
Ellen: oh,
Bex: please tell me you weren’t driving.
Alice: No, no, no, no. Mom was driving.
Bex: Okay, good.
Alice: I didn’t wanna go into a sinkhole while trying to watch this episode.
Bex: Ah, so that, that’s pretty much it for the emergency.
Ellen: This [00:24:00] next scene, I just laughed so hard. What the fuck? Freshly after talking about kinky role play last episode. Um, we actually get some this time.
Alice: This is the scene we’ve been waiting for, for ages. It’s so good.
Bex: Yeah.
Ellen: So when May walks in to her mother’s house, um, she’s, she notices like there’s music playing and it’s, it’s, let’s get it on. It’s
Alice: sex music. It’s sex music. There’s candles, which is wild because Bobby’s a firefighter and also you, you know, anyway, there’s a lot of candles.
Ellen: Maybe they’re electric candles.
Bex: Maybe that’s part of the role play.
Alice: He likes a bit of danger.
Bex: It’s incredibly realistic role play. He is got a fi, he’s got a fire extinguisher in the kitchen ready [00:25:00] for Athena to use.
Ellen: Athena doesn’t even look to see who has come into the house. She just appears, you know,
Bex: she just hears, no, she just hears footsteps. And she’s just like, oh, that’s my cue. Damn.
Alice: Oh my God. It’s so funny. Um, yeah, so Athena’s wearing almost nothing but Bobby’s turnout coat, which is obviously oversized for her.
Bex: She’s very, a very,
Ellen: she’s got lacey undies on
Alice: Oh, I said almost nothing. Yeah.
Bex: She has a, like a red lace and silk negligee and Bobby’s turnout coat and nothing else.
Alice: Yep. Yep.
Bex: And she’s not even like wearing his turnout. It’s like draped over her, shot over her elbows. She’s kind of like using it as a, a shawl.
Ellen: Yeah. And she’s like, “Have no fear. LAFD is here. I heard you have a fire in your kitchen.” And May’s just like, [00:26:00] what?
Alice: Athena’s like, “May? What are you doing here?” And May’s like, “I’d ask the same question, but I really don’t wanna know the answer.”
Bex: And I, I’ll give Athena props that she sees May, and she doesn’t really move.
She’s like in this sexy, sort of posed position. Um, and she doesn’t do that immediate, like hunched over and wraps a turnout around herself and is sort of ashamed of what she’s doing. She’s like, yeah, this is what I’m doing. What the hell are you doing here?
Alice: This is my house. Why are you here? Yeah.
Ellen: She owns it. Yeah,
Bex: she owns it. And I love that. She does end up covered up at some point the turnout is like, um, Dr. Strange’s magical cloak and it just immediately sort of sweeps around and wraps her up.
Ellen: Yeah.
Bex: Yeah. Like does the buttons up from, you know, navel to knee, but, um. To start with. She’s just like, no, fuck it. This is my house. You are a grown woman. I am a grown woman. Yes, I have sex. Deal with it. [00:27:00]
Ellen: I can, I can walk about in my underwear
Alice: also, why are you here? You don’t live here.
Bex: Yes. It was the, “You yearned for the friend of, of your own apartment, so why aren’t you there? Be free.”
Ellen: Let me be sexy with my husband in peace. And then she’s like, “no, I had to come and get my mail.” And Athena’s like, “why haven’t you changed your address?”
Alice: Also, one of them’s an Amazon package. Like, did she not change your address from the day before? Because Amazon’s quick.
Ellen: I don’t,
Bex: I’m gonna say that she just,
Ellen: maybe it was a bill or something.
Bex: No, there, there was literally an Amazon.
Alice: It was absolutely an Amazon package. Yeah.
Bex: Oh. She probably just like, well, I mean, I send stuff to my mom’s house sometimes. She’s just gone. It’s fine. I’ll send it to mom’s. I’ll go pick it up. That’s no big deal. Like,
Alice: yeah, to, to be fair, I do send a lot of stuff to my brother’s place, but that’s because he lives in like close to the city and so the postage is usually a lot, um, a lot cheaper. ’cause I live rural.
Bex: Yeah. [00:28:00] Mm-hmm. I’m sure that there were reasons.
Alice: Um, and it also takes an extra week to get to my house, whereas I see my brother every week, so it’s usually a lot faster.
Bex: And then you have to wait for like that one hour in the day when the post office slash doctor’s office is open so you can go.
Alice: Exactly. Yeah. Our post office is literally a medical center, like it goes to the doctor, the, um, GP clinic, and they’re,
Ellen: wow.
Alice: They’re closed for two hours a day for lunch.
Bex: Wild.
Alice: Bex knows this because she sent me a birthday present and I was like, that’s great. I’ll get it in like three weeks when they’re open.
Ellen: Aw.
Bex: Yeah. So, yes. So May goes into the kitchen. I don’t know why she’s going into the kitchen. Maybe they, it’s where they store all the mail. Um, Bobby is rather adamant that she not go into the kitchen and he sticks his head around from the wall where the fireplace is and we see that he is, I possibly wearing nothing but a kiss the cook apron.
Alice: It’s [00:29:00] absolutely nothing but a kiss the cook apron. Yeah. And May’s like, what are you wearing?
Ellen: But before, before this, he was not wearing the apron either.
Alice: Yeah, because he goes, this is all I could find in the kitchen to cover up. And she’s like, so you weren’t wearing? Nope. Nope. Don’t wanna know.
Nope.
Ellen: No. Nope.
Alice: Um, and then Bobby makes it worse by going, “I just had to clear the counters off before we, um, I think the mail’s in the bedroom.” Before you what? Nope, that’s where food is. Um, that’s where you,
Ellen: so, so now that everyone has moved out and they no longer have to worry about Michael just appearing um, unannounced in the house. They can have sex on every surface in the house,
Alice: apparently. Apparently they’re really celebrating Michael’s departure. Um, but
Bex: I, so Athena goes to get the mail and May goes, “So where’s Harry?” As if she’s expecting him just to be like with headphones on in his room. They would absolutely [00:30:00] not be doing that if Harry was still in the house May, be serious.
Alice: Oh God.
Bex: Um, he’s movies. Harry went into the movies. They have like a two hour window to do this in.
Alice: It’s funny too, because like this, was this the episode that got swapped with Yeah, it was. Yes. ’cause he’s still credited, isn’t he?
Bex: Yes.
Alice: Um, so he could like, it would’ve been so funny if they were like, oh yeah, he’s at his dad’s, but he like, they’d already moved.
Ellen: Was Bobby on screen when he said that? Because.
Alice: Right. Maybe it was, um,
Ellen: and they may might have changed it, but anyway, it doesn’t matter. Um,
Alice: but yeah, Harry, who, you know, just recovered from PTSD, barely has just gone to the movies on his own. He’s good.
Bex: Well, it didn’t say on his own, I’m
Alice: sure. No, I’m assuming he’s with friends with, but Yeah,
Bex: but he’s de he’s the point is, May, he is not in the house. Your mother is not that freaky. Um, she, however, cannot find the male. So Bobby has to ask May for a blanket from the couch so they can [00:31:00] wrap it around his waist so she doesn’t see his middle-aged ass as he scuttles across, he literally scuttles across the living room to the bedroom to grab May’s mail for her because he’s the only one who knows where he put it.
Ellen: Ah, it’s so silly. I love it. They did a, they did a great job with this scene. Just whole thing is so funny and, and as she, as just hightails it out of there. Um, Athena’s like, come by anytime. Call first. I’m like, whoa. They’re at the cottage.
Alice: Literally. My first thought, I’m just
Bex: Please scroll down in the notes. Please scroll down.
Ellen: Oh my God.
Alice: Yes. We all
Ellen: excellent.
Bex: For those of you who can’t see my notes,
Alice: I’ll just come by around five and they’re like, please call.
Bex: The next page of the notes is a screenshot from episode six, which is just Yuna and David Hollander going. Um, we’ll text, we’ll text, text.
Ellen: Yeah. We’ll just come around [00:32:00] five
Alice: Please text. We, it has rotted our brains. We are, we are nothing if not Heated Rivalry quotes in trench coats.
Bex: Pretty much.
Alice: Yep.
Ellen: But, but like, but totally. Like go, you go like, um, Bobby and Athena, you little freaks. Like Go for it. Top marks.
Bex: But see, the thing is we knew that Athena was a freak because Yeah. Hen’s had to rescue her from role place scenarios. I don’t think we realized that Bobby was quite that freakish though.
Alice: They, they got together for a reason. I’m, um, yep, good for them.
Ellen: Excellent. I hope they had fun after May, after they scarred May for life, um, walking in on them.
Alice: Um, but yeah. Now for the scene that you and Taylor both disassociated from [00:33:00]
Bex: Yeah. I’m just reading Buck dialogue now and realizing that yes, he did actually explain the whole thing and me,
Ellen: I was so busy laughing about the previous scene, honestly, to listen to like info dumping about the oil wells.
Bex: Apparently I was disassociating like Taylor.
Alice: Um, so yeah, Bucks, Bucks completely explaining about the wells, how there’s over 5,000 known oil wells in la, but there’s a bunch that were just basically forgotten. Um, they’ve dried up, they’ve filled them with trash and covered them, and “it’s like a, it’s the ticking time bomb that could be sitting in your backyard right now.”
And then Taylor just doesn’t say anything. And he’s like, I, I was pitching you a story. Did the promo tease and everything?
Ellen: And Taylor’s like, what, what Taylor and me are like,
Alice: yeah, time bombs
Ellen: great. What, what are you talking about? Yeah, but, and Buck’s like, are you okay? But yeah, she’s having a, having a time. It sounds like.
Bex: She claims that
Ellen: she think, she says [00:34:00] she’s gonna go home.
Bex: She claims she’s sleep deprived and she needs to go home. Uh, Buck’s answer is, why don’t you stay and sleep here? I’m going like, you haven’t? Sure
Alice: you have a home?
Bex: I’m pretty sure she, she just said that she’s hasn’t had. She hasn’t slept very well in the last couple of nights, possibly because she’s been sleeping at your place.
Alice: Yeah.
Bex: Um, so she wants to go home and sleep, Buck is like, no, stay here and sleep and I’ll reheat frozen waffles for you in the morning. And as tempting as that sounds, Taylor does take a waffle rain check.
Alice: I know it’s pre-cooking Buck. And I was like, oh, that’s right.
Bex: But he knew how to make breakfast like Bobby taught him how to make breakfast. That’s been established at this point.
Alice: So he doesn’t, well, well he’s not very good at it. Um, or he forgot, or he just has frozen waffles and wants to use them.
Bex: He just doesn’t want to, um, cook for Taylor. Um,
Alice: they’re doing, what is it, budget brunch? [00:35:00] Yes.
Bex: Uh, yes, but without the booze.
Alice: Yeah.
Bex: Um, so nail in the coffin of uh, Buck’s rejection sensitive dysphoria. She kisses him on the cheek before she leaves.
Alice: Oh my God. Right? Like, oh, this poor baby.
Ellen: So, so immediately Buck is like, oh, we are breaking up.
Alice: Yeah. Buck literally goes to work the next day and goes, “yep, that Taylor broke up with me. It’s over. We’re done.”
Ellen: It’s over. Yeah.
Alice: And Hen’s like “She went home to sleep. How is that code for It’s over?” And he’s just like, no, it’s done. We’re over. Finished. She took her shit and left.
Bex: Which is where we get the Buck is explaining “Well, what’s past is prologue, right? And based on my past, Taylor and I have reached the point in the relationship where the woman flees.” And Ravi just looks at him and goes, “Women flee you?”
Alice: “Routinely?”
Ellen: Ra Ravi is so confused by this whole conversation [00:36:00]
Bex: and what I find hilarious is Ravi is so confused and Eddie is just cackling to himself. Over in the corner. Yeah. As if he didn’t just, um, send Anna packing a couple of episodes back.
Alice: Literally. I’m like, Eddie, you Yep. I mean, I guess Eddie flees women?
Bex: Yeah. It’s the other way around. Eddie flees women. Women flee Buck but Eddie flees. women.
Alice: Match made in heaven. Um, although in saying that, no, Shannon did absolutely flee Eddie. So like twice so
Bex: very much so. Maybe we should get Anna and Taylor together.
Alice: No, Taylor’s mine. You can’t just give her to someone else.
What the fuck are you doing anyway? Buck’s. Buck’s trying to explain. He’s like, no, it starts off small. She’s canceling plans ’cause she’s gotta work. She needs to wash her hair or do her laundry. Oh fuck. I’ve gotta do laundry. Um, and then before you know it,
Ellen: and before you know it, you’re dropping them off at the airport and never seeing them [00:37:00] again. And Ravi’s face is just like. What airport?
Alice: What the fuck is this? Airport? Airport? Yeah. Um, like where are you flying these women off to? Yeah.
Bex: Ireland.
Alice: And Hen’s just like “Buck. You’re being…”
Bex: New York.
Alice: Yeah. Um, and then a train, um, Hen says that Buck’s being a little too Buck about this. And Eddie’s like “A little? Um, when’s the last time a woman told you she had to go home and wash her hair, in 1952?”
Ellen: He’s so sassy in this episode.
Alice: So sassy.
Bex: He’s so sassy in this episode. I love it. He’s an absolute little shit, but I love it. Um,
Alice: especially since he’s so pot kettle like,
Bex: which is why in half of my notes it’s just Mr. Pot and Mr. Kettle when I’m talking about these two. Yeah. Um, just to, you know, make things worse, Buck admits that he thinks that Taylor might have been living with him.
Alice: And this
Bex: is, it felt like they were living together.
Alice: This is where Bobby, who has just [00:38:00] been ha happily listening in the front seat
Bex: Yeah.
Alice: Is just like, why does this keep happening to you?
Bex: And Buck takes us as an actual question. He tries to answer like, well, you know, to be honest, I think, and Bobby’s just like, no, I’m gonna tell you why it keeps happening to you.
Alice: Yeah. Like this, this was not a question that you needed to answer. Um, it was rhetorical. I’m going to therapize you right now.
Bex: Yes.
Alice: Um, because you don’t talk to the women you’re dating, you just go with the flow. Find yourself in a relationship with no idea how you got there or what to do when things start to go wrong.
Bex: And yeah.
Alice: Who does that? Um, um, um,
Bex: thankfully Buck gives him a, a you fucking me look and the smile just kind of slides from his face.
Alice: Eddie is like, fine, I’ll stop being mean to you. Um, because yeah, like Anna absolutely like moved in with Eddie and Eddie’s just like, why are you here? Please leave.
Bex: And he had no idea what to do and just had a panic attack. And then
Alice: Literally had a panic attack.
Bex: So props to Buck. He hasn’t [00:39:00] had a panic attack yet?
Alice: Uh, no, because Buck’s the opposite. He wants the commitment. He’s like, I just like, I like these women just moving in with me and never leaving, or me moving in with them and never leaving. Like, I, I don’t wanna, like, I don’t wanna connect with them.
I just want them to stay with me forever because I have issues around abandonment.
Bex: Yeah. So the, the moral of Bobby’s story is to talk to Taylor, tell her how you’re feeling, find ways to reconnect and then Hen pipes up.
Ellen: Thank you. Dr. Phil, Bobby
Bex: Hen says, you know, you, you need to listen to him because Hen knows of what, uh, captain knows of what he speaks. Um, he and Athena were reconnecting in the kitchen the other night and may walked in on them and Bobby slowly turns around and is glaring at Hen.
Alice: Oh, that’s so good. He, like, you can tell he, he came to work the next day and he is like, oh fuck. Hen and Athena are best friends. Like Hen absolutely knows and Hen just acted [00:40:00] totally normal and Bobby’s like, oh, thank God. Athena clearly hasn’t told her.
Bex: No I don’t, I don’t think it occurred to Bobby that Athena would’ve said anything. Oh, I’m sure that, I’m sure that he knows that they tell each other everything. But he probably thought that their sex life was like not part of the everything. And now he’s realizing that he was very much mistaken that they do literally talk about everything.
Ellen: Yeah.
Alice: Yep.
Ellen: Yes. Apparently my wife has been oversharing
Bex: and Ravi is front.
Alice: “I wasn’t aware that I was, that we were able to bring our gear home for recreational purposes,” and all of them are just like, ah,
Bex: Eddie. And Eddie thinks this is hilarious. Buck is traumatized. Ravi is somewhere between shocked.
Entertained and slightly in the two at TMI department. Um, and he asks, “Oh, so you’ve been playing sexy firefighter, Cap?” Bobby’s response is, “What makes you think [00:41:00] I was the firefighter?”
Alice: And then all of them are like Ahhhh!,
Ellen: it’s his turn to totally own it. He’s just like, uh,
Bex: Hen’s remembering the last time she walked in on Athena role playing.
Alice: Oh yeah,
Ellen: yeah.
Bex: Ravi is like looking at Bobby in a whole new light. Um, Buck is booking an emergency appointment with this therapist.
Alice: Yeah. Buck’s like, “I don’t wanna think about that. And now I can’t stop.” Like, that’s literally his parents. What are you doing?
Bex: I, I love this scene. ’cause I, I love the scenes when they’re in the truck, just like talking backwards and forwards. I think this cast has such amazing chemistry, and when the writing is good, these scenes are just hilarious. It feels like you’re a fly
Alice: they’re so memorable
Bex: on the wall.
Alice: Yeah.
Bex: Just hanging out with a bunch of people who really like each other.
Alice: That’s it.
Bex: But then, so not only is it like just the, the camaraderie and the chemistry and just listening to them talk, but then you’ve got this [00:42:00] conversation. It’s, it’s the highlight of the episode for me is this scene.
Ellen: Yes. Yeah. I agree. I laughed so hard.
Bex: Yes, so good.
Alice: They’re so memorable, those scenes.
Bex: Yep.
Ellen: Uh, unfortunately, eventually they do have, yeah. They, they have to get to the emergency in the end. Um, there is a guy lying on the ground who apparently was trying to charge his car engine and gave himself a shock.
Bex: What? Mm.
Ellen: So I don’t know
Bex: you don’t charge engines.
Alice: Yeah. I
Bex: You charge batteries.
Alice: Don’t get this. Like, I was like, is an electronic car and he’s doing something wrong and then he’s lit. It looks like he’s just trying to give his no it battery a jumpstart. And so I’m like, I don’t understand.
Bex: Like it’s a classic car so there’s gonna be no electronics.
Alice: Yeah. It’s no way.
Bex: It’s, it looks like he’s literally trying to charge the battery and somebody has just written the wrong dialogue and nobody in the cast has picked up. [00:43:00] Um, actually that’s not what cars do.
Alice: Yeah.
Bex: And like I absolutely know nothing about cars, but I am pretty confident that you charge the battery, not the engine. The battery then powers the engine. The engine does not have any charge in and of itself. Please correct me if I’m wrong.
Alice: I don’t think the battery even charges the, like I don’t, I’m pretty sure the doesn’t,
Ellen: the battery’s just to start engine.
Alice: Yeah. The battery just starts the car. The engine is powered by like a lot of things, including the fuel.
Ellen: Yeah.
Alice: Um, but yeah, the battery doesn’t power the engine.
Ellen: Unless you’ve got an electric car. But this is not electric.
Alice: No.
Ellen: Anyway, it doesn’t matter. He got a, he got a shock somehow and he fell and hit his head. So they, you know, put a collar on him and he’s, he is like, his vision’s a bit blurry and he can’t really hear too well. So he is sort of peering at Hen and he, he calls her Antonia,
Bex: he [00:44:00] can see well enough to see that it’s, um, to sort of make out the, the shape of her face and he can see her name tag and he thinks that it’s Hen’s mother.
Ellen: He knows where he is, he knows what’s going on, but he, he does see the name Wilson on her.
So yeah, he asks if he, if he says “Antonia Wilson?” And she’s like, “um, that’s my mother.” So they work out that it’s kind of a weird conversation because he’s, the way he says this is like. No person who just fell over and hid their head would be talking like this. But anyway, he,
Alice: I mean, he didn’t hit his head very hard. Clearly.
Ellen: No, she’s, he’s like, “Antonia was always a snappy dresser. Her coat of armor was her favorite piece, if you know what I mean.” It’s like, do people really talk like this?
Bex: No, they don’t.
Ellen: But
Bex: especially when he goes on to say, “You catch enough shrapnel and eventually you don’t wanna leave any part of yourself exposed.”
And Hen’s [00:45:00] like, “Well, if you knew my mom back then, you probably knew my dad.” And he goes, “Yeah, your dad was the shrapnel.” I’m like,
Alice: yeah. It was, it’s a weird dialogue.
Ellen: It’s a weird dialogue.
Bex: It’s a very, it’s very poetic. It’s very, um, imaginative. It is absolutely 100% not realistic.
Alice: Yeah,
Ellen: yeah.
Alice: Which like, whatever,
Bex: just fine.
Alice: It’s fine.
Ellen: It’s fine. At least we can work out from that, that they knew each other at some point.
Bex: Yes.
Ellen: And knew that
Bex: yes. And knew each other well enough.
Ellen: Knew Hen’s dad.
Bex: Yes. And knew that, um, Hen’s dad was a cause for concern. Uh, so we then we go to commercial and when we come back it’s 1987 and Duran Duran, his plane.
Alice: This weirded me out so much. Yeah, okay. So like, obviously I was watching it on streaming as well, so there’s no commercial breaks, but like they, they just have this whole thing about [00:46:00] like Hen’s mom’s past and like, oh, like if you knew my mom back then.
Bex: Yes.
Alice: And you probably knew my dad too. I thought we were going back then we go to 1987 and I was like, why are we getting Toni’s like, I don’t care about Toni’s past. Why are we getting a full flashback for, for it?
Bex: And especially with, it’s the eighties because we’d find out sort of later that they knew each other in the seventies, so why are we suddenly in the eighties? But yeah, I 100% thought that this was gonna be a Toni and Clive flashback. Yeah. And then when we were at the casino, I’m,
Alice: because they didn’t say the year that they knew each other either. So I was like, uh, okay. No. Like it could have been when Hen was young. I don’t fucking know.
Bex: And you, I guess you kind of, when they pull up at the casino, I’m like, okay, maybe because we knew that Hen’s mom worked in a casino, so like the setting probably worked. But no, this has nothing to do with the previous scene. This is a brand new scene and a brand new story.
Alice: Brand, brand new case. Yeah.
Bex: Yeah.
Ellen: Mm-hmm.
Bex: And it is, um, the casino’s getting robbed guy and a motor, a person apology [00:47:00] as a person drives up on a motorcycle, um, leaves it with valet, walks into the casino, keeps the helmet on, uh, which I guess was the eighties. Rules were different. Um, proceeds to pull a gun on one of the blackjack dealers, takes all of the chips and then hightails it out of the casino on the bike.
Ellen: And there’s like a weird scene where the valet is like ogling the bike for a while. Um, yeah. Until the person comes back out and
Bex: it’s so we could get a really good look at that bike
Alice: apparently.
Bex: So we really remember the bike.
Alice: Remember they were on a bike?
Bex: And it was red and black and it was bike. Yeah,
Alice: it was, sure. It sure was bike.
Ellen: And then, but then, then we cut back to, then Athena walks in and I’m like, wow, Athena doesn’t look any different in the eighties, even though she would’ve been like really, really young then.
And, well, not super young ’cause she’s, I don’t know, 60 something now. Right? Um. [00:48:00] And then I’m like, oh no, this is the present again. I I was really confused for a minute there.
Bex: Which makes,
Ellen: um, but anyway,
Bex: no, your confusion is understandable because it’s still in the coloration or the saturation of the eighties of the like, ’cause it’s a flashback and 9-1-1, love to drop the saturation when it’s a flashback and you hear Athena’s voice in voiceover.
So 100%. Yeah, I’m with you. I was expecting the 1987 version of Athena. I can’t even remember if she was actually a police officer at that age or how old she would’ve been. Yeah. I don’t remember. But it’s not because when we cut to her, we are back to full color. It’s the present. And Athena is the Athena as we know her today.
Ellen: And I’m like looking at the casino going, this is a weird casino where’s like the like technicolor carpet and like, you know, the, like I’m,
Bex: it’s, it’s, it’s the dingiest not most non casino looking casino that I’ve ever seen.
Ellen: Yeah, yeah. Wooden floors like. I don’t know. It looks like a [00:49:00] really old building that they’ve just shoved a few tables in.
Bex: Yes.
Ellen: Basically. But anyway, that aside, Athena is on this case for some reason that happened like 30 years ago. Um, because someone tried to cash in one of the stolen chips in the present day. And the person who cashed it in is like a guy dressed up as Santa.
Alice: It’s Santa
Bex: Santa
Ellen: Santa’s cashing Pink Casino
Alice: chip.
I’m like, I’m like, what time of year is this? But sure. I think it’s November.
Ellen: Yeah, it was like the end of November. So,
Alice: yeah.
Ellen: Makes sense.
Bex: Sure. Time has no meaning in this show. But no, it’s, he’s not actually Santa. He is a bell ringer for Santa’s helping hand. And his story is that he found the chip in his bucket.
Um, when he was on his lunch break and I guess he was like sorting through what [00:50:00] was all the donations while he was on lunch or before he went to lunch or something. Um, but yeah, he was born in 1994, so he definitely wasn’t involved in the robbery. Um
Ellen: mm-hmm.
Bex: And planting a seed that absolutely does not pay off for us the audience, but does for the characters.
Um, this is Neil Biscobing
Alice: Yeah. Rhymes with Disco King.
Bex: Rhymes with Disco King.
Ellen: Sure.
Alice: I don’t understand why that’s a part, but Yeah. It’s so weird, like, yep. Anyway, disco. Okay.
Ellen: Yeah. Anyway, then it reminds,
Alice: and they’re all just
Ellen: like, and, and Athena’s just like, okay, sure.
Alice: Yep.
Ellen: If you say so. So they’re trying to work out who, who could have like, she’s trying to solve this 30-year-old case. Yes. But the Doris, who is the lady who runs the casino, the manager, she’s like, “oh, I don’t think we’ll have that. The footage anymore [00:51:00] of, you know, the security footage. Everything would’ve been turned over to the police. And you, you guys probably threw that out already.”
And Athena’s like, “I think you’ll be surprised by how inefficient we are.” So she has to go hunting for some security tapes from 30 years ago.
Bex: Yes. And then she brings them home with her.
Alice: They’re literally tapes and she brings them home and fucking Bobby goes through, I’m like, surely this isn’t, anyway,
Ellen: Bobby just I’m has been waiting for this moment.
Alice: That’s skipping ahead too much. But yeah.
Ellen: Yeah. He loves it. Anyway,
Bex: I’m gonna say that because it was like a cold case from the eighties and it’s like low priority that nobody actually cares that she’s letting a civilian look at police evidence.
Alice: Yeah.
Bex: But anyway, yes. So, um, she brings the tapes home, but she has also invited Hen and I’m looking at the scene when you start, because when the scene starts, it’s [00:52:00] Athena residents, but Hen and Toni are there hanging out on the patio. I’m like, why they’re having, I like,
Alice: which house are they at?
Bex: Why are they at the Athena residence? Um, where is Karen? And then you find out that Noah Athena specifically invited them there. Um, so Hen and Toni are having a heart to heart about ply, and hence like, you know, we met, I met this guy, uh, Clive, do you remember him?
And Toni’s like, “I don’t know.” She’s like, “well, he remembers you.” Yeah,
Alice: he sure does.
Bex: And then she’s like, oh no, I remember him. I just, you know, it was a long time ago. I don’t actually, like, I, I don’t actually care. Um, where, where did you even meet him?
Alice: In the neighborhood around
Bex: Bobby butts in, gives the details. You know, he was fixing a car. She’s like, “oh my God, he’s still got that car?” Hen’s like, “wait, you said [00:53:00] you didn’t know him, but you know he has a car.”
Alice: Yeah. In, in LA? A car. What?
Bex: We just, we just, you know, knew each other from the neighborhood. No big deal. Um, but the point of Hen, and specifically Toni being there, is that Athena remembers that Toni used to work at a casino and she wants to pick Toni’s brain about how somebody could have robbed the farewell.
Alice: Yeah. Basically like how “if I were to rob the casino, how could I rob the casino?” And Toni’s like, oh, this is how you could rob the casino. Um, I do really like that. Um, Athena’s just like. Oh, someone robbed the Farewell Casino and Bobby’s like, “What? I didn’t hear about that.” She is like, it was in 18 seven, uh, 1987.
Ellen: It was in 1897.
Alice: I have a learning disorder. Don’t make fun of me.
Bex: And then
Alice: I gonna say 1879 over,
Ellen: [00:54:00] over a hundred years ago.
Bex: I mean, we know Bobby’s old, but he’s not quite that old. Um, and then she mentions that the robber got away with a million dollars and you can just see his eyes light up. He’s like, oh, a mystery
Ellen: a robber, did you say,
Alice: I can see there’s this files in my house Evidence. Heck yeah.
Ellen: Anyway, they work out that, that, that there wasn’t, like no one could, would have a million dollars worth of chips on their table at that time. It was like in the morning. So Toni says that if they, they, they could have done that if it had been a special request from a high roller, but like.
Maybe someone was in on it.
Bex: Yes.
Ellen: That’s like the TLDR of this whole scene. Yeah. Um,
Bex: they think it was an in, Bobby and Athena are coming to think that it was an inside job
Ellen: and they, they name him the Biker Bandit.
Alice: The
Bex: Bobby names
Alice: Bobby. Bobby names him [00:55:00] the Biker Bandit.
Ellen: “Oh, that’s catchy. I like that,” it says Hen. Yeah.
Alice: Um, I just have to say as well, so DB Cooper, right? I never heard of him until the Loki TV series and then I had to look him up to work out what the fuck they were referencing.
Ellen: Okay. I don’t know who that is.
Alice: Yeah, say I think it’s like an American folk, like an American sort of thing. ’cause no idea. But basically, um, DB Cooper like went on an airplane and stole a whole bunch of things, like stole a bunch of money.
Ellen: Hmm.
Alice: Um, and then just like left the plane and no one found him ever.
Ellen: Okay. But at an airport?
Alice: Like while the plane was in No, no, the plane was in the ground. I mean, in the air, not on the ground.
Ellen: Wow.
Alice: Um, and yeah, they didn’t find them ever.
Ellen: He, he jumped out of the plane?
Alice: Yes.
Ellen: [00:56:00] With money.
Alice: Yep.
Ellen: Wow. Okay.
Alice: Um, but yeah, this is like the third time this week that, because it’s, um, it is in Without A Paddle, which I did watch.
Ellen: Okay.
Alice: But I never really put together de ’cause you know, I watched without a paddle back before Wikipedia was like really a thing.
Um, so I didn’t really put it together. And then Hudson Williams was no, um, fucking Connor Storrie was talking about Without A Paddle this week. And I was just like, oh yeah. And then we watched this episode, I’m like, fucking de Cooper’s everywhere at the moment.
Bex: Without A Paddle is the guys looking for DB Cooper’s treasure, right?
Alice: Yes, yes, yes, I believe so. And then I think they, I can’t remember. It’s been a while, but yes.
Bex: Bear mine off in action. Uh, so while that’s it, Bobby is salivating over the idea of pulling out his like little whiteboard and setting up his red string crazy person, um, serial [00:57:00] killer board to solve this mystery.
Uh, we’re gonna go back to Buck’s where he’s gone jogging. It looks like he’s in athletic wear, specifically shorts. So it’s Alice’s turn to dissociate ’cause she’s not gonna pay attention to anything that’s happening in the scene. ’cause
Alice: literally
Bex: Buck’s in shorts,
Alice: I have no fucking idea what happened. This is, this scene, um, Taylor was there.
Bex: Yep.
Alice: And Buck was in shorts. I was very distracted. Blah, blah, blah, place, name, blah, blah, blah. Backstory stuff.
Bex: Uh, Taylor is there to try and find her iPad, or no, specifically her tablet. Um, ’cause they can’t use brand names, I guess.
Ellen: Yeah.
Bex: Although perhaps the fact that she has a tablet, not an iPad means that she means that she’s one of the bad guys.
Ellen: The bad guys.
Bex: Have you heard about the, the Apple thing with movies?
Alice: Yes. Bad guys can’t use Apple product.
Ellen: I think we’ve discussed that [00:58:00] before. Yeah, yeah,
Alice: yeah.
Bex: In case anyone listening has heard about it, there is a, a rule that Apple products cannot be in the hands of bad guys or villains in TV shows and movies. So if you’re ever watching a movie,
Ellen: well, this makes Taylor a bad guy?
Bex: Well, that’s what I’m wondering. She doesn’t have an, if she specifically has a tablet and an iPad, does that make her a bad guy?
Ellen: Oh.
Bex: Or am I just overthinking it? I’m possibly just overthinking it. Yeah. That’s interesting.
Ellen: Think, I think you might be, but anyway,
Alice: I think they just didn’t wanna pay for an, an iPad
Bex: possibly.
Um, Buck has put her iPad away in one of his bedside drawers, so he retrieves it for her. Um, and she immediately tries to leave and he’s like, why don’t you at least stay for dinner? And she’s like, no, I’ve got an early flight in the morning. And this poor boy’s brain has just exploded because he’s already convinced that she was breaking up with him and now she’s leaving the country.
Alice: Yeah. Literally just like, bye you [00:59:00] going to the airport see ya.
Ellen: He was just, he was just saying like, oh, then we, then you’re driving them to the airport and dropping them off. He was just like, I’m going to the airport?
Alice: And Taylor’s like, I’m, I’m going to the airport and you’re not even driving me.
Ellen: And he, and he’s breaking the fuck out.
Bex: He puts his foot down. He’s like, “No, no, you can’t leave. You can’t just, if you’re gonna skip town, you’ve gotta break up with me first.” She’s like, “Why, who said anything about breaking up with you? Um, it’s fine. I’m just going for a day. We’ll talk when we get back. You crazy person.” And he’s like, “No, no, no, no. My dad said we had to talk about it now, so we’re gonna talk about it now.”
Alice: To be fair, he would spiral so fucking much if she just fucking took a plane and vanished.
Bex: Yes.
Ellen: Yeah.
Bex: Um, so he is like, you know, “At least tell me where you’re going.” And she pretty much just spins around and goes, “Fine. I’m going to my father’s parole hearing.” dun [01:00:00] dun dun!.
Ellen: Yeah. Very dramatic commercial break.
Bex: Yes. And we return to one of the most awkward blockings. Blocks of a scene that I’ve seen where Buck is literally sitting on his stairs. He seems to sit on his stairs when it comes to Taylor a lot. And Taylor is sitting on the kitchen table, like not looking at him.
Ellen: She’s, she’s spilling her guts though. She told him all about like what happened with her parents. And she was the one who found her mom. So that the news story she was looking at in the last episode was, yeah.
Bex: So for everybody who didn’t like zoom in and read that incredibly badly written news article, this is Taylor explaining it, whereas we, we zoomed in and read it.
So we already know all of this information except for the Taylor.
Ellen: Yeah. But we didn’t know that it was about Yeah. Her parents, we just knew that it was about some [01:01:00] guy who killed his wife.
Bex: Yeah,
Ellen: apparently.
Bex: Yeah.
Ellen: So apparently. That they ruled it a suicide. Then the second jury said that he killed, like her dad killed her mom, and now he’s up for a parole hearing. And well, she’s going there probably to tell them that he’s a good person and needs to be released.
Bex: Yes.
Ellen: But she doesn’t actually know what happened and Buck’s like, “maybe we could find out what really happened.” He’s like totally taking a leaf from his dad’s book here. Yeah. And he’s like, “we can solve the case.”
And Taylor’s like, “I’ve already tried. Um, and there is no evidence. The only people who know there’s, there’s only two people who know, and one of them is dead.”
Bex: And the other one swears he’s innocent.
Ellen: Just so sad. It’s very tragic.
Bex: Yes. Um, so Buck says, well, at least let me come with you. [01:02:00] And she literally says, “no. I don’t want that.” Please remember that for the rest of this episode. She literally said no.
Alice: Yeah, it’s not your childhood trauma. It’s mine. I need to deal with it on my own.
Ellen: And what were we saying before about Buck listening?
Alice: He’s not great at it.
Bex: Yeah, he’s, he’s not great.
Ellen: Alright. Back at the Athena residence, there is nothing kinky going on yet, but right now Bobby is having a, Bobby’s having a great time because he’s got the tapes and he is on the case.
Alice: He should not be looking at these. Surely
Bex: No. But like I said, cold case, it’s a robbery of a casino. It’s like a million dollars. Nobody really cares. They’re like, yeah, let your husband have fun. Maybe he solves it, maybe he doesn’t. I’m more concerned with [01:03:00] the fact that he destroys one of the types. Yeah.
Like he literally destroys evidence.
Yeah. He
Alice: literally destroys it. And he is just like, oh, whoops. Like I, if I was Athena, I’d be like, oh fuck. Oh fuck. Oh fuck. But she’s just like, ah, that’s annoying. Can’t look at that anymore.
Ellen: She, it’s, it’s funny ’cause she’s like, they do this scene so well, um, they actually, these two are just, this episode is like a top Bathena episode. Honestly. They, they’re great in this one. She’s just so done with him. She’s like, why are you doing this? Like, “why are you still up?” And he’s like, “oh, come, come, come and look at this. Check this out.” She’s like, “oh, what? I just wanna go to bed.”
Bex: I want you to come to bed. Please come to bed.
Ellen: Yeah.
Bex: I’ve got another scenario that I wanna play out.
Alice: I’ve got another scenario.
Ellen: He say, “look, look, look. This is, look, he’s over there. He is gonna hit the table. Okay. Now the security’s chasing him,” but they work out that the, the tapes don’t actually quite [01:04:00] match up, like on one tape the, the security is chasing him and on the other tape, the security is way behind him.
Alice: Yes.
Ellen: From a different angle.
So
Alice: yeah, this is, I still don’t really understand it. Even after seeing the,
Ellen: yeah, it was a little confusing, but I dunno, I dunno how they got from this. Like, I understand why that the tapes would looked different, but at first I thought that someone had just like, spliced together the tapes, you know, like, but he’s like, oh no, let’s go to the casino and reenact this.
And I’m like, no. He goes, the, his literal words are, “There was another way we could test this theory.” And Athena’s like, “what other way?” And he goes, “Rob the casino.” I’m like, oh my God, what is he doing now?
Bex: See, that would’ve been a lot more interesting. I mean, I still quite enjoy the casino scene, but that would’ve been really interesting if the like, okay, we’re gonna set up a blackjack table and we are gonna set up the chips and I’m gonna [01:05:00] hold you up at gunpoint.
You’re gonna give me the chips and then I’m gonna have all the security guards in.
Ellen: Yeah. And then we can chase you out.
Bex: Yeah. I think,
Ellen: and then we have sex on the counter.
Bex: We have sex on the blackjack table.
Ellen: No, no problem. Yeah.
Bex: But yeah, I think the idea is they can’t continue to examine the security tape because he destroyed the security tape. So they’re gonna have to use, have to reenact it themselves to try and piece together what they lost from the tape.
Ellen: Bobby has just like one hair brain scheme after another in this episode.
Bex: Yeah.
Ellen: He doesn’t have Michael there to like egg him on. So maybe the, the schemes aren’t as hair-brained as past schemes
Bex: or maybe it’s, um, it’s more hair-brained because Michael would be there, but then David would also be there to like try and calm him down.
Ellen: Oh yeah.
Bex: And he doesn’t have David to balance that.
Ellen: to refine the plan.
Bex: Yeah,
Ellen: that’s right, he would,
Bex: anyway, so yeah. So they’re gonna role play at the casino and, you [01:06:00] know, please don’t do role play in public. ’cause like you guys might, you and your partner might consent to the role play, but nobody around you is consented.
So leave the role play for the bedroom, please.
Ellen: Yeah. PSA try this at home, not, not at the casino.
Bex: Yes.
Ellen: Meanwhile, the rest of the 118 are gossiping.
Bex: It’s, I think it’s the next day. They’re all at work. Um,
Ellen: yeah,
Bex: Ravi has gone for coffee and they are literally just hanging out on the side of the road in the truck. I think half of the 118 are in the truck. The, the Brady Bunch are outside, um, lounging on the side of the truck. Gossiping. Not about Bobby this time though.
Ellen: No. He telling the story of her mom and this mysterious dude
Bex: and Eddie is eating it up.
Alice: He really is. Oh my God. I was like, it’s the gay gossip club.[01:07:00]
Bex: He’s convinced that Clive and Toni would definitely a thing. And like the quote is like, and I mean like a big time long lost love thing. And his, he says that his abuela would eat this up. It’s like a good tele Nova and Buck’s like, “excuse me sir. Um, you watch telenovelas, you watch them with Christopher.”
Ellen: Yeah. And, and Eddie doesn’t deny it. He’s like
Alice: the fact that Buck knows as well.
Bex: I’m pretty sure he’s watched some telenovelas with them.
Alice: Oh, a hundred percent. Um, and then he is like, oh, that’s how we practice the Spanish. Yeah.
Ellen: But he wants to know what happens next. And um, so this puts he on the meddling path?
Yeah. She’s gonna pull in. Abby has her number,
Bex: she’s going to pull Clive’s file and get his number from the file and use it to call him. Which no, we, we don’t do that. [01:08:00]
Alice: Yeah. No.
Bex: Um, Eddie is of course 100% on board with this plan. Uh, but surprisingly Buck is the voice of reason and says like, “You don’t know if, like, if they were together, you don’t know why, if they broke up or why they broke up. And what if you’re like, reopening old wounds? What if there’s some deep trauma between them that you shouldn’t be poking at?” And Eddie’s like, “When did you become the voice of reason?”
Ellen: Yeah. And Hen wants to know if something happened with Taylor. Because I mean, the day before he was saying that they were done. And, and now he’s like, “oh no, you are right. She’s not breaking up with me.” And Hen’s like, “And?”
Bex: That’s it. That’s all. Like, he literally looks at her watch and goes, “that’s all you’re giving us. We’ve still got…” and I’m assuming she’s like, we’ve still got all this time to kill while we wait for the probie to come back with our coffee. You could at least entertain us. But, um, thankfully for [01:09:00] Buck, he’s saved by said probie, um, appearing with all of their coffees.
Alice: Yeah. Very quickly. And he’s like, “yes, I ordered them online. I’m not an idiot.”
Ellen: Yeah. He managed to shave three minutes of Buck’s. Best coffee runtime. Why are they keeping track of this? I don’t know. But, and he even got the order right. He got Hen’s oat milk right.
Bex: Well, of course, because he would’ve been like tapping it into the phone as Hen’s telling him. So there’s none of this having to remember it or write it down. Ravi’s clever.
Ellen: Yeah,
Bex: I just, I really, I found it really funny that for most of this scene it’s just, you know, Buck, Eddie and Hen, Ravi turns the corner and suddenly five other members of the 118 just swarm in.
I’m like, where were you guys? Have you been sitting like, did they not let you out of the truck this entire time?
Alice: They’re, they’re, they’re not allowed in gossip club.
Bex: I can just, I [01:10:00] can just imagine they’re sort of sitting in the truck and one of them’s got like, the window cracked just enough and sort of the ear pressed at the window.
What are they saying? Sh trying to listen.
Alice: Bobby was wearing what?
Bex: Uh, Bobby’s wearing a suit. Very nice suit without a tie. He’s obviously learned
Ellen: from.
Oh yeah. Different, a different drink order.
Bex: Yes. A he’s wearing a, a nice suit with a, a tie, open collar. Um, and he has some club sodas, shaken, not stirred. And Athena’s like, that’s great for you, but where’s my booze? Yes. And we’ve mentioned before about the fact that Athena is quite openly drinking around her, like alcoholic husband. Um,
Ellen: yeah.
Bex: It doesn’t seem
Ellen: it feels bad.
Bex: It does,
Ellen: it feels bad, but I mean’s,
Alice: like I know Bobby says is fine.
Ellen: Guess that’s,
Alice: but it’s still weird. Yeah,
Ellen: yeah. It’s Bobby’s choice. Like if he [01:11:00] thinks it’s okay, then okay, but like, Hmm, I don’t think I would be doing that.
Bex: No, not, and not even like he’s given you a non-alcoholic drink and you’ve gone, bitch that needs vodka.
Ellen: I need, I need vodka in this, so. Oh, okay. Um, but Athena does look very beautiful. She’s got a very slinky dress on. Looks great.
Bex: Yeah. It’s.
Ellen: She’s ready for a night out.
Bex: Orange color that just looks amazing on her. Um, and they are at the Farewell Casino getting ready to rob it, or at least pretend to rob it.
Ellen: Mm-hmm.
Bex: So the idea is that, um, Bobby is going to pretend to be the robber. He’s going to pretend to pick up Athena’s. I don’t know why he needed her purse. He could have just walked from the table,
Alice: pretended to run. Yeah.
Bex: But in his mind, he takes Athena’s purse. He’s like, I’m gonna pick up the purse. I’m gonna hightail it for the door. You are gonna play security even though you are in heels, in a very slinky dress, and [01:12:00] you are going to try and cut me off at the door.
Alice: Um, I do love that, like, Bobby’s like, “Let me have your purse.” And Athena’s like, “Oh, it doesn’t really go with your outfit.” And Bobby’s like, “You don’t think?”
Bex: I love a secure man.
Alice: Yeah.
Ellen: But she does say at one point we are taking this role playing a little more public than necessary. Yeah. You don’t have to do this, you can just walk anyway.
Bex: Anyway.
Ellen: Um, they’re just, he’s like, “if you just match my pace, it should work out.” And then they, they try it, like he grabs the bang and moves off and Athena follows him just kind of walking and Bobby’s like, “but you didn’t run.” And she’s like, “I matched your pace. It’s what you wanted.”
Bex: Yeah. Because even though we’re seeing, even though as they’re doing this, we’re seeing like the replay of the footage from 1987, um, when they move off, even though [01:13:00] in 1987, the biker gets there first and security is nowhere to be seen, when Bobby gets there, Athena is immediately meeting him at the door.
Alice: Yeah, I still don’t understand any of this, but it’s cute watching them play the
Ellen: other. Well, I think what they end, what they end up working out is that the security was in on it. Like they didn’t chase,
Bex: No, security weren’t in on it. They just can’t understand how in 1987 security were not able to do what Athena is doing.
And they tried at least four times, much to the confusion of Doris, who’s just watching Bobby run backwards and forwards across the casino.
Alice: Literally,
Bex: they’re chasing him. The Bobby does get a, a, like a brainwave when Athena’s vodka and soda appears and she’s taking her drink. Um, and he notices that the, the spot where Athena catches up to him, there is a fire extinguisher right next to the door and he.[01:14:00]
The light bulb goes off and he pulls out his phone. So not only did he have access to evidence and destroy said evidence, but he also copied said evidence onto his phone. Um, and he’s showing Athena the difference between the biker walking in as compared to the fire extinguisher and the biker running out after they’ve robbed the casino as compared to the fire extinguisher.
And he says, “you know, per code, the fire extinguisher has to be three feet. So the fire extinguisher doesn’t move. But when you look at the photos of the before and after of the biker, he shrinks. He comes into the casino looking about six foot tall. He leaves the casino looking about 5 7, 5 8.”
Ellen: So there were two of them.
Bex: There were two of them. Um, at this point Doris has had enough, she has no idea what’s going on on her casino floor. She’s slightly suspicious. She comes over to check what’s going on, um mm-hmm. And [01:15:00] she realizes that they are working the case and Bobby’s very excited about it.
And he’s like, “didn’t you used to work here at the, the casino?” And she’s like, “yes, I was a dealer. Um, I wasn’t working that morning though. I was in business school.”
Alice: Yeah. I was totally at school and not robbing the place.
Bex: And, um, she said she tries to distract them and say, “look, you know, while you’re here, let me get you a meal at our restaurant, comp you a meal, a nice bottle of wine.”
And Athena’s like, “you are not bribing me. You cannot give me wine and steak to keep me quiet.” And as she walks away, both Athena and Bobby sort of look at her and go, “ah. How tall do you think she is? Five seven maybe five eight?”
Ellen: Yeah. They’re connecting some dots here.
Alice: They are connect some dots.
Bex: They’re connecting the dots. [01:16:00] But once again, they’ve written a mystery where the audience can’t connect the dots.
Ellen: Yeah.
Bex: Because they’re having to keep telling us all of the dots rather than showing us the dots and letting us put them together ourselves.
Yeah. 9-1-1 please. Just once please write a mystery episode that’s actually a mystery episode. Give me a mystery that I can feel stupid that I didn’t solve, that I should have been able to solve.
Ellen: Yeah.
Bex: Or give me a mystery that I was able to solve before you told it me in the end. And I can feel incredibly smart.
’cause the next part is Athena going to Neil Biscobing, who ringing his bell for Santa again and telling us the audience that there was a Jimmy Biscobing who used to gamble quite regularly at the casino around the time of the robbery. And that is apparently Santa’s uncle.
Ellen: I dunno how they found that out.[01:17:00]
Bex: I don’t know.
Ellen: But we don’t find out how she found that out.
Bex: No.
Ellen: But anyway, um, she basically like, so he says that his uncle passed away and he found the chip that got cashed in when his dad and him were cleaning out his uncle’s place. But they also found a photo of Doris and his uncle posing in front of a motorbike, which looks quite a lot like the flashback motorbike.
Bex: It does, which is why we got that extended sequence of the valet drooling all over it so that we could at least connect those dots. Um
Ellen: mm-hmm.
Alice: The dumbest thing is like when they first showed it in the flashback, like the person running out is so clearly a woman that I’m like, how did no one notice?
Bex: Because helmet
Alice: Yeah, of course. My [01:18:00] bad.
Ellen: No one was paying attention. Obviously they got away with it.
Bex: No one was paying close enough attention.
Ellen: That’s right.
Alice: Clearly the cops back then, just like the cops now, were not good at being cops.
Ellen: So a Athena shows Doris the picture and she confirms that she knew this person and Athena basically accuses her of like robbing the casino. We get a little flash, little flashbacks to 1987 again. Or the young Doris. Yeah. Because,
Bex: because Doris absolutely does not deny it.
Ellen: No, she’s, and she’s like, am I under arrest? And it seems like I can’t really,
Alice: like we can’t do anything.
Ellen: So do anything about this.
Alice: No. That we know. Like what?
Ellen: Yeah, she did. But he, she, she did speak with Doris’s employers and um, and Doris is like, “did they really have to know?” And the thing is [01:19:00] like, bitch, yes, it’s what I do. And then we cut to the prison and I was like, oh my God. They put her in jail already? Wow.
Alice: They move fast.
Ellen: Thena moves Athena moves like lightning! But no, it’s not, it’s not Doris. It’s Taylor.
Bex: It’s Taylor. She’s on the shuttle bus that they use to take the visitors to the prison. Um, she gets off the bus, she looks like she’s been crying. The bus pulls away and there is Buck sitting at the bus stop waiting for her.
Like, dude, she told you she didn’t want you there.
Alice: Mm-hmm. Turns out though, she kind of did one in there. It’s kind of cute.
Ellen: Yeah. I mean, she did tell him not to come. Um, but it, I guess it’s nice of him to show up anyway in a way.
Bex: I think she’s just so kind of emotionally [01:20:00] devastated at this moment that she doesn’t have it in her to fight with him.
Alice: Yeah. Yeah.
Bex: If she’d been at like full strength, she absolutely would’ve ripped him a new one. But, um, she’s just come back from, um, attending her father’s parole here hearing, but hey, I actually said it correctly for once. Go me. Um, and. Sorry, I just had a flashback of me trying to say the words parole hearing for that episode.
Ellen: Yeah, yeah. There was one time
Bex: In season two or something. Um,
Ellen: that was a long time ago.
Bex: It was, um, so she attended the hearing. She intended to stand up and, and speak on her dad’s behalf, but she couldn’t, and apparently he just ripped her to shreds for doing so, and she’s a little bit emotionally devastated. He told her that she was a terrible daughter and that she was letting him down,
Alice: which is, you know, lovely to say to you.[01:21:00]
Bex: So she’s probably not in the, like, the best frame of mind to be yelling at her boyfriend at this point. She’s is probably, she’s softened enough that yes, she is slightly relieved that he is there,
Ellen: but he did. He says he came in case you needed me, which is very sweet. All right, it’s time for Hen to do some more meddling. Uh,
Alice: yeah. Hen’s meddling is worse than Buck’s driving to make sure that Taylor’s okay.
Ellen: Yeah. Well, she’s dragged her mom out for, for lunch at a pizza place. And Toni is like
Bex: an Italian restaurant. It looks too fancy to just be a pizza place.
Ellen: Well, it’s a pizzeria. I mean,
Bex: yeah. But then it says Hollywood’s oldest Italian restaurant, so it’s, it’s gonna have more than just pizza.
Ellen: Okay. I guess it’s a slightly more highbrow out than just a pizza. It’s not Pizza Hut.
Bex: No, because like, like we later on we see like Clive [01:22:00] there in a suit with a bouquet of red roses, and I can just imagine someone like rocking up to Pizza Hut in that outfit with those flowers. I’m like, no,
Ellen: I’m sure it’s happened. Um, anyway Toni, Toni is really suspicious. She’s like, “why did you bring me here? Um, what’s the terrible news?” And Hen’s like, “No, no, no. There’s no terrible news. But, um, this guy is here.” So yeah, Clive said, and he has flowers and he’s very cute. He’s very sweet. And Toni’s just like, “uh, no bye.”
Bex: No. She literally like says, “you look good. Um, but I’m not staying,”
Ellen: but I’m not, I’m not staying.
Bex: Here’s your flowers back. Goodbye.
Ellen: Uh, he tries to call out to her, but Hen’s like, “um, I’ll just go and see if I can get her to come back,” but, um, she kind of gets mad at Hen and “the past is the past for a [01:23:00] reason, Henrietta,”
Bex: she full names her, Henrietta.
Ellen: Yeah. Hen looks really confused.
Alice: She forgot her name was Henrietta.
Ellen: Yeah. She’s like, wow. No one calls me that anymore. All right. Short scene. We’re jumping back to like somehow, um, Buck and Taylor have now. I instantly come back to LA
Alice: very fast.
Ellen: I guess it was a couple of days later. I don’t know.
Bex: Or maybe the, like, just later that night? I don’t know how long it takes to fly from my Oklahoma to LA.
Ellen: Probably not that long, but like going to the airport and getting a flight just feels like an all day experience. I don’t know, even if you’re only flying a couple hours.
Bex: Okay. But even if they were,
Ellen: it’s so much rigmarole.
Bex: Even if they had spent like all day with each other, they’ve saved this conversation until they’re back on Buck’s couch.
Ellen: Until they got home on the couch. Yeah.
Bex: They’ve been silent. They haven’t talked to each other at [01:24:00] all until they got home.
Alice: Buck even picked her back up from the airport and they’re like, no, not talking,
Bex: just wait.
Ellen: Um, they do have a little cuddle on the couch and, um, Buck’s like “I, I too understand a complicated family dynamic that’s hard to put into words.” It’s like, yes, we do know all about you Buck.
Bex: I mean it’s, it’s a sweet little scene. The writing just seems a little bit
Alice: stilted?
Bex: On the nose. I mean at one point Taylor literally says, “I tell other people’s stories for a living because I hate telling my own.” And I mean, yes, that’s, that is kind of, we understood that once we learned, like I think that was unspoken.
Once we learned sort of your past and we sort of put it together. I don’t think it, we are catering for the absolute phone scrollers in the audience here right now by [01:25:00] literally saying the unspoken, which is apparently what Netflix is doing these days.
Alice: Yeah. Did you see the thing where like that’s why there’s so much exposition in TV shows.
Bex: I saw a snip ’cause people are on the phone interview with Matt Damon and Ben Affleck. Where there was, they were pitching something to Netflix and Netflix said, we need you to explain the plot at least three times every so often, just so the people who are on their phones can understand what’s going on.
Ellen: Yep. Ugh.
Bex: Yeah.
Ellen: Great.
Bex: So that’s what that scene was. That was catering for the people on the phones.
Ellen: Excellent, excellent television. Yeah. Moving along. Um, so back to Hen and Toni, uh, we get a bit of a, more of an explanation of what happened, uh, with Clive. So as it turns out, Hen was cheating on Toni, on Hen’s dad. Sorry. [01:26:00] Toni was,
Bex: no, try that again.
Ellen: Toni was, we’ve done that one. Toni was cheating on Hen’s dad with Clive.
Bex: Yes.
Ellen: Because Hen’s dad wasn’t it? It wasn’t going well with him. He wasn’t a nice person.
Alice: ‘Cause cheating runs in the family.
Ellen: Apparently,
Bex: apparently
Alice: it’s, who knew it was genetic.
Ellen: Genetic,
Bex: yes. And the, uh, the affair, the, uh, the affair was serious enough that, uh, Toni was considering leaving, running away with Clive. Um, and she would have, if it hadn’t been for that pesky kit, ie. He, uh, because just as she was about ’cause
Alice: surprise,
Bex: just as she was about to leave her doc, um, Toni’s doctor called and said, Hey, surprise, you’re pregnant. Toni said that, um, she was willing to leave her husband, but she couldn’t walk out on the father of her child. Um,
Alice: sure.
Bex: And Hen’s doing the math. And she’s like, [01:27:00] “wait, I mean, are you sure that dad was even,” and Toni just gives her this like stink eye and says, “This isn’t Maury Povich, yes, I’m sure that your father is your father.”
Ellen: I don’t know what, who. What or what Maury Povich is.
Alice: Oh, it’s a talk show. Like, um, or not a talk show. It’s like, um, oh, my
Bex: Jerry Springer?
Alice: What’s it called?
Bex: Kind of
Alice: Jerry Springer. Thank you.
Ellen: Oh, okay.
Alice: I only know because he is in How I Met Your Mother.
Bex: I used to, it used to be on sort of afternoon, sort of early, so like the one o’clock, two o’clock kind of time slot on free to air.
Um, it’s basically him on a stage, they’d have a theme of the, like, my, uh, baby daddy, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. They’d have the baby daddy would come out, they’d bring out the, the mother. Um, and they would usually do paternity tests on stage.
Ellen: So it’s like
Bex: reveal, reveal the results on stage
Ellen: Ricky [01:28:00] Lake kind of thing.
Bex: Uh, yeah, but trashier, because I think Ricky Lake was still trying to cater to sort of the um, the female audience and the, the stay at home moms. Whereas Maury Povich was literally, uh, trying to be a… think Jerry Springer but without the fights.
Alice: Yeah.
Bex: Yeah.
Ellen: Okay. Wow. But why were there so many of these trashy shows?
Bex: ’cause people watched them
Ellen: in, in the eighties.
Bex: I mean, like, this was before the internet
Ellen: I remember. So you, I I remember staying home from school when I was sick and like watching like, you know, The Midday Show or whatever Australian crap was on in the middle of the day. Yeah. But then these shows would come on and you’d be like, why?
What is going on with these, these shows?
Bex: Because they didn’t have reality TV shows for the drama. This was reality tv.
Ellen: No, no.
Alice: Yeah. This was the reality tv. Um, I don’t remember. Like, I know that we got the whole backstory with Hen’s dad. I don’t remember it. Do you guys remember it?
Bex: We though [01:29:00] there was an entire episode because he shows up in the hospital. And Hen is his emergency contact.
Alice: Doesn’t Hen have to kill him? Yeah.
Bex: Oh yeah. And she discovers that’s right, that he was living close and he was saving all of her, like he’d saved all of her shit and he was collecting newspaper articles about her, and he seemed to be like proud of her and that she had to turn off life support.
Ellen: That’s right. Yes.
Alice: Um,
Ellen: God, that was a long time ago though.
Bex: Yeah.
Ellen: I forgot that even happened.
Alice: Yeah. There you go. So when Hen was nine, her father abandoned her. And then like, so it’s just, it’s weird that her mom’s just like, I couldn’t abandon the, the father of my child. But then when Hen’s dad leaves, she’s just like, oh, well. Like what? Find the guy. I don’t know. It’s weird.
Bex: I, I think the implication is that she didn’t want to, because her life was better without him. Remember he was the shrapnel that she put [01:30:00] her suit of armor on to protect herself from. Yeah.
Alice: Yeah. I guess
Ellen: well, Hen gives her Clive’s number anyway and just tells her that “Maybe the future that you thought you might have with him is now you just have to step into it.” so it, I, it’s kind of a sweet scene in a way
Bex: It is.
Ellen: Yeah.
Bex: I just don’t really care.
Alice: Yeah. Nearly there,
Ellen: um, this is a funny scene as well, because May comes back to her mother’s house and she’s like making a bunch of noise when she comes in, she’s like, “Hey, anyone home?”
Bex: She’s like, slamming the door, stomping down the stairs, jingling her keys.
Yeah. Like, did you not text her in front?
Alice: Yeah. Everyone there,
Bex: um,
Ellen: everyone got clothes on?
Bex: Her parents do have clothes on. They’re sitting at the table playing gin. Um, ’cause now Bobby has,
Alice: I’m assuming, May [01:31:00] messaged and was just like. I’m coming over and they were like, okay, let’s just like play cards, I guess, until she’s here.
Bex: Yeah. Oh, absolutely. Because, so the May comes down, she’s like, the only reason I’ve come is because one of your, uh, bill’s got mixed up with my mail. I’ve come to deliver it. I’m gonna go now. Um, and Bobby looks at, um, Athena like, are we gonna keep playing cards? Um, Athena lowers her hand of cards and pulls out the handcuffs that she’s brought home from the station.
She’s like, uh, we’re about to have fun. And I just really hope she remembered to bring the key and that she’s gonna keep the key close behind, close by her this time.
Ellen: I wonder how many times she’s had to call Hen since then,
Bex: I really hope she learned her lesson.
Ellen: Yeah. All right. This is like a [01:32:00] bunch of really little scenes from here out kind of thing.
Bex: Montage,
Ellen: montage time. So we’ve got, we go back to Buck and Taylor.
Bex: Hang on. We gotta go to the hospital first. Because despite not being family or next of kin, the hospital have somehow allowed Gabby to just move into Chloe’s hospital room. And how long has she been in the hospital? Asleep?
Alice: Yeah. It’s, yep. Anyway,
Bex: because she like looks up and what Chloe wakes up and kind of looks over and Gabby is there and it seems like it’s the first time they’ve spoken since the sinkhole incident, which was how many days ago?
Alice: It was fine. It was yesterday. Everything else just happened really weird.
Ellen: Yeah. Don’t… timey wimey. Like,
Bex: so Taylor managed to fly from LA to Oklahoma and back again in one day?
Alice: Yeah.
Bex: Even though she had an early flight in the morning, which means that at least more than a day passed.
Alice: Yep. It’s, it’s fine.
Ellen: I think we’ve jumped back in time to, [01:33:00] to this hospital room anyway, it doesn’t matter
Bex: I mean, that makes sense. I will go with that
Ellen: because these two are like making heart eyes at each other now.
Alice: That’s why it’s got a sepia filter. You didn’t notice?
Ellen: It’s a flashback.
Alice: Yeah, it’s a flashback.
Ellen: Yeah.
Bex: All right, so we flashed back. Those two are making heart eyes. Um, Taylor confesses her love to Buck and then assaults him with a green bean. That is exactly what happens.
Alice: It is actually, yeah.
Bex: Buck says, “Are you sure you’re not mad at me for showing up in Oklahoma?” Taylor says, “Well, honestly, I kind of love you for it.” Buck clocks that she said, I love you. And she throws a green bean at him and says, “Don’t make it weird.”
Ellen: What? That’s so cute. It makes no sense, but I I think it’s really cute.
Alice: That’s cute. That’s fine.
Ellen: [01:34:00] Um, we’ve got Clive waiting around outside on the street, like on the footpath, and Toni appears and she’s got a suitcase with her. And then we, then we have a flashback. This is a strange kind of flashback in a, in a montage, which I don’t know what, how that works. But anyway, we have young Toni walking out of the, an alley carrying the same suitcase apparently. I didn’t notice that, but yes. Suitcase.
Bex: It’s the same suitcase
Ellen: and Clive is waiting. Young Clive is standing waiting and apparently she’s gonna run away with Clive again. For real this time. So
Bex: I That’s
Alice: stay in LA ’cause they’re old.
Bex: That’s what I thought. I thought that she was like finally running away with him. But it turns out they were just going on a road trip. Maybe not even a road trip. She’s just going for a drive.
Alice: They were going around the block.
Bex: Yeah. So why did she need a suitcase except for this, for the purposes of this scene?
Ellen: I don’t [01:35:00] know. Anyway, I’m, how long are they going away for? Don’t know.
Bex: What did she say in the text message? Went for a drive with an old friend. Don’t wait up.
Alice: Don’t wait up.
Ellen: So they, they’re gonna drive around the corner to the, to a motel and have some fun and then come home again. I don’t know. Anyway. Um, Buck and Taylor. So this is the bit where everyone gets lucky, um, because. Buck and Taylor are having smooches.
And then, um, Buck says, “I guess I know now. I guess now I know all your secrets.” And um, Taylor says that “actually, Kelly is my middle name.” It’s like, I don’t think that was a secret. Taylor.
Bex: Yeah, I clocked that last episode.
Ellen: I think we knew that your name wasn’t, your last name wasn’t Kelly.
Bex: Yeah, we figured that out, but that’s fine.
Ellen: But she changed it for [01:36:00] an anonymity reasons. And then Bobby and Athena are getting it on at their place, which we already knew it was happening. They’ve just been like, just horny this whole episode because they don’t have Michael coming and crashing their party anymore. Gabby and Chloe is still in the hospital and like, we’re just cutting back and forth between all the couples now.
Bex: Pretty much. Yeah. Meanwhile, Eddie’s at home watching telenovelas with Christopher and his abuela.
Ellen: Oh yes. Well away from the women of LA.
Bex: Yes. Stay away from the women of La Edmundo please. We’re begging you.
Alice: Please.
Ellen: I mean, there were bits of this episode were completely hilarious and I actually, I really enjoyed it.
Alice: Yeah. I didn’t hate it.
Ellen: Yeah.
Bex: Like you said, um, I like snippets of the episode, so I love the, [01:37:00] um, I like Bobby and Athena’s storyline in this, even though it is completely ridiculous. I just love the idea of these like two old people like getting horny and role playing all over the place.
Um, and I love the conversations with the 118, especially the one in the, in the truck.
Alice: Yes. Yeah.
Bex: But the rest of,
Alice: I don’t care about Toni and Clive,
Bex: I don’t care about Toni and Clive, the initial emergency was like, meh in the scale of emergencies,
Ellen: it was a bit silly. Yeah.
Bex: Um, didn’t really care about Taylor’s storyline. Um,
Alice: my girl, no. I didn’t really care. No. Like, I appreciated, I like, I liked their scenes, but I just, I don’t really care about Taylor’s backstory. Soz Taylor.
Ellen: Well, I mean, it was really just about her and Buck, wasn’t it? Like we don’t even meet her dad at all. So
Alice: they didn’t wanna cast someone else. This episode.
What are you talking about? But
Bex: that’s the other thing that’s really, like, I know that in [01:38:00] reality in real life, you don’t always get resolution. You don’t always get answers. There’s no sort of hap not every story ends happily, but it just seemed, I don’t know that they had this like big build up to, you know, Taylor looking at this story on the computer and getting upset about it with like this story about this guy that killed his wife, and then like, oh my God, I’m going to my dad’s parole hearing, and then that’s it else.
Alice: Yeah. Then they’re like, oh, fuck, we start the hiatus and like two weeks. Let’s just sweep that out.
The
Bex: Yeah, it’s like we’ve, this entire story about Taylor, but it’s really about Buck.
Ellen: Yeah.
Bex: We don’t actually care about Taylor. We’re just setting it up for Buck, which kind of, I don’t know. They, they, a missed opportunity? I don’t know.
Ellen: It, it kind of, in the end, it kind of feels like drama for no reason.
Bex: Drama for drama’s sake. Yeah.
Ellen: Yeah. There was no, like, maybe they’re closer at the end of it, but they would’ve been anyway [01:39:00] if there hadn’t been secrets. So, I don’t know. They just added it for the sake of the drama. Everything is for the drama.
Alice: Yeah.
Ellen: In a drama show, but
Alice: it just, yeah, the, the. The lack of resolution, like Yeah. Just seemed unfair,
Bex: which I think I’m okay with. But I think what I’m struggling with with that storyline is that there’s, so you only get 40 minutes in a show to tell a story. So you would think that every story you put on in those 40 minutes, there is enough importance.
Like it’s important enough that you are choosing to use your minutes to tell this story. And I’m tr mm-hmm. I just don’t understand what the story is they’re trying to tell with that plot line.
Ellen: Yeah.
Bex: Except to further Buck and Taylor’s relationship. But it just seems like, to be honest, they seem really awkward with each other in this episode. Like even at the end.
Alice: Yeah.
Bex: I don’t know if it’s just [01:40:00] me. They have, but they just seem really awkward with each other.
Ellen: They, they had in the last couple episodes, actually, I thought like, because they were building up to this kind of. Oh, maybe we’re breaking up. You know, they’ve been, that’s what I thought it was, but like even when they, after they worked it out, they like, when they’re sitting on the couch, it kind of felt kind of awkward.
Bex: Yeah. I mean, I don’t know what happened because when they were just like fucking in the karaoke bars bathroom, they had chemistry.
Alice: So much chemistry.
Bex: Now it doesn’t seem like they have any chemistry and I don’t understand what’s happened.
Ellen: Oh, it’s still cute though. But you’re, you’re,
Bex: and I know that it is like, oh, you know, when you’re in relationships, you know the spark disappears.
But if you’re trying to sell a relationship to an audience, you need to at least pretend there’s some kind of spark. I mean, look at Bobby and Athena, Peter, Peter and Angela are amazing together. And that relationship [01:41:00] has been there for, what, four seasons now?
Alice: I think the writers just don’t know what to do with Buck and Taylor, so they just like. They don’t dunno what to do with any of Buck and Eddie’s relationships. Let’s be real.
Bex: Yes. So here’s a hint, writer. Get rid of the women in the relationship and just have those together.
Ellen: I, I can think of one thing
Bex: because they,
Ellen: they could do,
Bex: because I can guarantee you that would work.
Alice: Please leave the women of LA alone.
Ellen: Oh my God. Okay.
Alice: But yeah, I didn’t hate it. I enjoyed it more than the fucking season nine episode that I watched this morning. So
Bex: haven’t seen it. But I will, I I will agree. Even without having seen it, I’m like, if it’s anything like the last couple of season nine episodes, yes. This was better.
Alice: I, um, just by knowing you season nine, I already prefer this season five episode. And once again, I don’t ha have just met the man. Just met the season.
Bex: Yep.
Ellen: All right, [01:42:00] well, tell me, so next week is the like the mid-season finale?
Bex: It’s the mid, it’s the, the fall finale. The mid-season break. Yeah, they go on hiatus.
So this is the end of 5A.
Alice: Oh wait, this was the last episode of the, I thought we had one more epi episode. No, that’s it?
Bex: Nope.
Ellen: No. Next,
Alice: next week. Next week. Okay. Yeah. Cool. No, that’s what I thought. I just,
Bex: so we get next week’s is the fall finale. Then we get a couple of weeks, well, in 2021 there was a couple of weeks break. We don’t get a couple of weeks break. We’re gonna plough straight on.
Alice: That’s okay. We, we do get a couple weeks break from season nine at least, which is kind of a relief right now.
Bex: Um, but anyway, meanwhile in season five, um, it’s the Christmas episode, which I’m a little bit bummed that we didn’t actually get to it in time for Christmas. ’cause that would’ve been good. But that’s okay.
Alice: Oh,
Bex: the synopsis tells us that the members of the 118 are going to be called to a series of emergencies around [01:43:00] Christmas Eve then. And then after they’ve dealt with all those emergencies, Eddie has to struggle with an emotional Christopher.
Alice: Oh.
Bex: Um, and our episodes are a car accident, multiple car accidents. Um, trolley as in like one of those trams, like not a shopping trolley. One of those sort of trolley cars. Um,
Ellen: yeah.
Bex: Versus a person. And then there’s also another car versus building. Um, there is cheating. And
Alice: is it Hen and her Mom again?
Bex: No, it’s not Hen, it’s a, it’s a NPC character. Um, and then childhood PTSD.
Ellen: Oh, no. Is it Harry?
Bex: Uh, see above re emotional. Christopher and Oh, emotional Christopher Plus Christmas.
Ellen: Yeah. Chris. Yeah. Christmas is not a good [01:44:00] time for him.
Bex: No.
Ellen: In, in historically.
Bex: Yes.
Ellen: Okay, cool. Oh, well, I’m excited to have another Christmas episode. It’s been a while since we last did one, not a whole year, but a little while. Um, anything else to say about this episode, or shall we wrap up?
Alice: Let’s wrap it up. I think that’s it. I’m tired.
Bex: Wrap it up in red
Alice: Attention span.
Bex: Yeah.
Ellen: Okay. All right. Well, please let us know what you thought about this episode. Uh, you can send us comments on Spotify, on our, on YouTube, or social media or you can, um, put a comment on the actual post on thatweewooshow.com
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Ellen: Yeah. Hello Pigeon, if you’ve caught up to this episode, um, it won’t be long. There we go.
Alice: Have you worked out which one of us owns Autumn yet? Because I’m having a [01:45:00] great time, um, with the fact that you don’t know. Um, I’m actually gonna ship Autumn to the other one of us, uh, just to confuse you even more.
Ellen: Um, okay. Thank you everyone for listening this week, and we will see you next week to talk about. We’re gonna talk about episode 10, which is called “Wrapped in Red.” See you then.
Bex: Bye
Alice: bye.
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Alice: Oh my God, that was a mess at the end.
Ellen: I lost the plot at the end. Yeah,
Alice: yeah. I’m like, we were so into it, and then at the end we’re like, yeah, we don’t care about the resolution of any of these stories.
Ellen: No. Well, I think the episode kind of lost the plot at the end.
Alice: Yeah. Like we were having a great time with Bobby’s stealing the purse, and then after that we’re like, yeah, we don’t care anymore. Yeah.
Bex: Bobby stole the purse and we’re like, okay, yeah, we’ve done, wait, what do you mean there’s still more of the episode? We’re done.
Alice: Literally, it just kept going. Yeah.
Ellen: After that, there was no more fun stuff. It was just like,
Alice: yeah.
Ellen: Everyone was like, Hmm,
Alice: don’t care.
Bex: Yep.
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