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Maddie: 9-1-1,

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what's your emergency?

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Ellen: Welcome back to That WeeWoo
Show, a podcast where we watch and

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discuss episodes of the ABC show 9-1-1.

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I'm Ellen.

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Alice: I'm Alice.

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Bex: And I'm Bex.

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Ellen: Thanks very much to everyone who's
been listening to our podcast so far.

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And we are nearly at
the end of season two.

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Can you believe it?

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This is the penultimate episode.

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Alice: It's crazy.

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It's going so fast.

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Ellen: No, it feels like
ages since we started.

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Alice: Well, I mean, Chim was
bleeding out for like 12 days.

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Ellen: I know.

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It's been a lot of weeks since we started
season two, but we're nearly there.

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But yeah, we, so I guess we'll say upfront
that because we are nearly at the end

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of this season, we need, we would love
to hear about your feedback on season

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two, what you thought of season two.

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You need to get that into us by the
15th of November, which I believe is

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this week, the end of this week, if
you're listening to this, um, as soon

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as it comes out, basically, that is
going to be the 14th for Americans

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and possibly, like, Europeans,
depending on which time zone you're in.

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Um, the 15th Australian time.

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Um, yeah, let us know what you thought
of season two, and we will read that

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stuff out on our wrap up episode.

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Um, but in the meantime, Alice,
do you want to tell us what

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happened last week on 9-1-1?

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Alice: Uh, yeah.

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So last week on 9-1-1, we learned
more about Bobby's beginning at the

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118 after his past caught up with him
regarding his history in Minnesota.

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Ellen: That's right.

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And we started out right where we ended.

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No, we ended up right where we started.

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That's the way round, I mean.

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Alice: So there was another,
another, um, 9-1-1 flashback episode.

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Ellen: Yes.

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Bex: This week, we are firmly in
the present with episode titled,

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"Be Careful What You Wish For".

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And which first aired on May 6th, 2019.

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The summary is a little bit misleading
because of the, uh, like the bold headline

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is Athena investigates a mail bomb,
which like that's the last five minutes?

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Ellen: Yeah, that's like the
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Bex: Exactly.

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Uh, but the full summary says
that the first responders deal

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with a calamity at a chocolate
factory and a mail bomb explosion.

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Meanwhile, Eddie receives some
surprising news from Shannon.

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Maddie contemplates a future in the
call center and tragedy strikes the 118.

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And our triggers for this episode
is we have a car accident, which

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results in minor character death.

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We have a discussion of
mental illness and suicide.

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There is an explosion by a package bomb.

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And suicide attempt via jumping.

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Ellen: The other thing we have to,
we have to mention up front before we

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start talking about this episode is
that there is a sort of trigger warning

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or a warning at least for big sads.

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Big sads in this episode.

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Um, if so, if you're not in the right
headspace for dealing with a lot of

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people being very sad, then, um, maybe
skip this or come back to it later.

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Alice: Uh, yeah, this episode actually
contains one of my big triggers, so I

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will be bowing out about halfway through.

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Ellen: That's okay.

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Alice: Because mental health's important.

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Ellen: Yeah, we need everyone to stay,
you know, look after themselves, so

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no worries if you need to bow out.

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Alice: But the first half,
uh, we get lotto fever.

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Ellen: Yeah.

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I don't know if this is how things
really happen when you have a big

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jackpot like this, but apparently
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in the the Golden State Lottery and
like, people are lining up at the

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newsagent for ages to get their ticket.

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Bex: What was it?

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It was 18 million.

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I think I saw on the screen.

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Ellen: Something like that.

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It was a lot.

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Bex: It was a lot of money.

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Ellen: there are a lot of people in this
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about it as they're buying their tickets.

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They're like, no, no one else
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one's going to be the winner.

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Alice: Yeah, do we get this woman's name?

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Ellen: Uh, no, I don't think so.

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Bex: There are names in the
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actually said in the episode.

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Alice: Oh, apparently
she's credited as Paula.

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Bex: Yeah.

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Alice: Okay.

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Um, so yeah, Paula seems to be a regular
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Bex: I'm not entirely sure what it is.

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Ellen: A place where
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Bex: Yeah.

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Alice: Drugstore, I guess?

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Bex: She's on first name basis
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Alice: She is.

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She says, "Make it a
winner this time, Ray."

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She heads down the street to her
car, um, she's like, clutching the

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ticket like it's her last lifeline.

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And before she gets in her car, she
closes her eyes and goes, "Please God,

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just this one wish, just this one."

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And then as she opens her eyes.

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hundred-dollar bills are literally
fluttering down around her.

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Bex: Her wish came true.

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Ellen: I was sort of watching this going,
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theme, like right out of the gate here.

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Like she's wishing for something
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But like, it seems like every person
who wishes for something in this

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episode thinks that they're getting
what they want, but in fact they're not.

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Which is a weird theme
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Bex: I, I, we're going to have to discuss
at the end of the episode, whether there

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is actually a theme to this episode,
because I sincerely doubt that they

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carry this theme all the way through.

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It's, they set it up, it's like, it's
there at the beginning and then I don't

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know where it is for the rest of the
episode, but to start off with, we've got

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this woman, you wishing for money, but
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comes in because the scene like devolves
into chaos because there are people

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running out in the street to catch the
money and almost getting hit by cars.

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People are starting to
fight over the money.

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And our, our, our friend Paula
decides that she's going to take the

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bundles of money that she's caught
and get out of that situation.

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Except then a man lands on her car.

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Ellen: So not only is it raining
money, but it's raining men.

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Just one, just one guy,

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Bex: just one man.

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Alice: Uh, we've also got the, the
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a great time because " Money, Money,
Money" is playing this whole scene.

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Um, which is like, it,
it could have been worse.

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It could have been "It's Raining Men".

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Ellen: Yeah.

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But we, yeah, we didn't know that
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until the end of that scene.

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So she calls 9-1-1 and then
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is it her that calls 9-1-1?

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Bex: Paula calls.

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And she Yes, because they say that
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Ellen: And then while she's on the
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that he's actually still alive.

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So somehow he survived.

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Jumping out of the building
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Bex: and of course, Athena
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Ellen: She's already there.

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I don't know how she always
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Or is she just like, jumps in the
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Bex: I have a, maybe it's because the
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So they have to, like, get in
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whereas she's in the sergeant's

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Ellen: They have to, like, finish
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all sitting around the table eating.

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So apparently this guy, um, had
some kind of existential crisis

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and then threw all his money off
the roof and then jumped after it.

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And fell 20 stories
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And Bobby is not here because
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Alice: He's still suspended.

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Bex: So we have Interim Captain Han as the
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Ellen: he walks in looking all smug.

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Alice: He looks so smug.

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Ellen: Maybe not smug, but
he looks like he's ready.

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Bex: And we also have a
new member of the 118.

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We have John.

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John has been kicked up from the B shift
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gets a name and his face on the screen.

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Alice: gets a first name!

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I know!

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Bex: He doesn't get to say anything.

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Alice: Oh, it's, it's great because
like they arrive, Athena says, "I don't

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know like how you want to handle this,"
and Hen says "That's up to the cap."

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Buck's very quick to
be like, "Interim cap."

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But then Chim's like, "Yep, yep, you
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immediately just goes to do his job.

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And the rest of the team are just
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"uh, what, what do you want us to do?"

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So he's not quite, um, not
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captain head space yet, I guess.

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Ellen: Yeah, he still
needs to look after people.

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Alice: Yeah.

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Ellen: So Hen's, like, gonna give this
guy something for the pain because,

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like, he's, he's half in this car.

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He's, like, stuck through the windscreen.

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And Eddie's looking at him and he says
that he's got compound fracture in both

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legs and he hasn't lost bowel control.

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And Barry's like, "Oh, at least
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But then Eddie asked
Paula, "How did he land?"

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And I'm like, well, can't
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Like his feet are through, like
his feet are inside the car

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and the rest of him is outside.

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Alice: But Eddie's not a detective.

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Ellen: I don't know.

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It's just, it was a weird question.

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I'm like, well, I don't understand.

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Anyway, Barry's a bit upset
about not getting it right,

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um, but he likes the morphine.

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The morphine's nice.

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Alice: Um, but yeah, apparently his
wife left him, his kids hate him,

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um, and his only friend is suing him.

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And he explains the money ruined
his life a year ago, he thought

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that it would have solved all his
problems, and it just multiplied them.

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And at this point they've got him like
on the backboard and on the stretcher and

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they're taking him to the ambulance and
Paula, for some reason, has followed him,

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um, and like asks what happened last year
and he's like, yeah, I won the lottery.

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Ellen: And Chimutters the fateful
words, careful what you wish for.

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I'm like, Oh God, we haven't even
had the title card yet and we've

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already got the episode title.

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Bex: Yeah.

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It, it, it felt like they were setting up
one of those episodes where every single

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storyline was going to be on the theme.

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Ellen: It felt like that.

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Bex: And it just, it didn't eventuate.

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Alice: It's a real red herring episode.

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This one, like, they may as well have
just call it red hair, red herring

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Ellen: Careful what you Red Herring.

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wished for and it turned out to

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not really be what he wanted.

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Bex: But did he though?

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Did he really, did he wish to be captain?

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Alice: Yeah, I don't think he
wanted to be captain, like.

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Ellen: I don't know, he said he took
it because he thought it'd be fun.

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So maybe it wasn't something
he was actually wishing for.

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Alice: Yeah.

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Ellen: And I don't think anyone else
in the episode was wishing for any

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of the things that happened to them.

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Bex: Oh, God no.

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Ellen: I don't know.

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Alice: Um, but anyway, Paula
tears up her lottery ticket.

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Ellen: She's

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Alice: like, no, don't
want this after all.

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Bex: Apparently it's not worth it.

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Ellen: It's never worth it, spoiler.

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Because it's just chucking
your money in the bin.

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Anyway.

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Bex: Handing it over to the government
who do absolutely nothing with it.

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I really like, as a segue, I really
like what they do in the UK, which is

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lottery money goes to Sporting, uh,
it goes to building sporting benefits.

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Ellen: Yeah, they donate, they
have grant, a grant program kind of

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thing where you can apply for it.

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Bex: Yeah, it comes out
of the lottery money.

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Yeah.

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So you can get a, like a, a new,
um, a new basketball hall for

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your junior basketball team.

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Yeah.

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Alice: Interesting.

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Bex: Yeah, I think that's a really
good way to do it rather than just

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fattening the pockets of a corporation.

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Um, yeah.

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We get the title card, and then we get
possibly the most twisted segue that

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this show has come up with, because
we started with a man who won the

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lottery and his life went to shit.

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And then we get the Diaz family on
the beach, and Eddie wistfully says,

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"I feel like I have won the lottery."

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Ellen: Oh God, that's the worst bit
of foreshadowing I've ever seen.

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Bex: Edmundo, did you not
see what happened to the

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last man who won the lottery?

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Alice: Look, you were just at that call.

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Bex: Why are they choosing to
use that as their segue, as

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their transition between scenes?

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I don't know.

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And yet, it's, it's
terrible foreshadowing.

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Ellen: I didn't, well, obviously I didn't
pick up on that at the time because I

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didn't know what was coming, but man.

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Alice: This episode is honestly the
worst, like, the second watch through.

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Ellen: Yeah.

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Alice: I thought, I was like, yeah,
I know what happens this, nah, worse.

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No.

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So much worse.

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Ellen: Yeah, I imagine.

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Yeah.

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Alice: Um, anyway, so yes, Shannon
and Eddie, uh, up the beach a bit,

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um, lounging around watching Chris
who's making a sandcastle, um.

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Like a little bit closer to the water.

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Bex: They're all flirty and happy.

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Alice: Yeah, like Eddie says that the kid
was, um, he swears the kid was born happy.

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Shannon says she has no
idea where he gets it.

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And Eddie says "From me."

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Shannon calls him "Mr.

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Broody."

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Which is interesting because we
have seen Eddie, have we seen

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Eddie quite playful at this?

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We haven't really seen Eddie
much this season, hang on.

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I don't know.

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Ellen: This is his first season,
we haven't seen, like, we haven't

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seen him being really broody either,
like, he's just him at the moment,

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there's no, I don't know, he's not

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Bex: We haven't seen him full pouty yet.

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Full pouty comes.

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Alice: Yeah, that's it.

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So, like, it's, it's
an interesting comment.

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Eddie also says that he hopes that
Chris got Shannon's brains, because he

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can't get by on just Eddie's good looks.

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Ellen: He hasn't inherited
the one brain cell yet.

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Alice: Like, at least, at least
that he's, um, self aware and knows

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that all he is, is good looks.

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Ellen: It's kind of mean.

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Look, we say these horrible
things about him, about him and

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Buck, but honestly, we love them.

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Okay.

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It's just sometimes they do things
and you're just like, guys, seriously.

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Anyway.

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He, like, he says that he loves
having you around to Shannon

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and, Shannon's like, does he?

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And Eddie's like, "Yes, we both
do," and they have a little moment.

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But then Shannon says, " What
are we doing, Eddie?

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Um, I need to know what you want."

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Alice: Oh, this is, it's so, oh,

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Bex: this is so frustrating.

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Alice: It's so cringey.

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Ellen: It is a cringy conversation because
it's like, look, just, Eddie's really

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noncommittal at this point as well.

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He's just like, "I don't know, I just want
to do this, like, can't we just do this?"

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Alice: So his exact words, uh, he
wants to have a nice day on the

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beach with his son and his mother.

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Like his son's mother.

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No, no, not his mother.

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Bex: His son's mother.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, Shannon's not even
his wife at this stage.

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She has no connection to him.

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Alice: Not my best friend, not
my wife, like, just my kid's mum.

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Bex: The only connection that she
has to Eddie is through Christopher.

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To give Shannon credit, she's just
like, "oh, okay, that's all I am

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to you, Christopher's mum, great."

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And she seems perfectly willing
to just take that and run with it.

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Alice: Yeah, she's like, if that's
what it is, it's fine, just tell me.

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Bex: Yeah, I just need to know.

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Yeah.

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And Eddie sort of is flustered and he goes
like, "I, I, I don't know, you know, this

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last few months have been really good.

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I think I'm just waiting for a
sign," and the following words

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just fall out of Shannon's mouth.

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It's, "I think I might be pregnant."

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And I want to put my fist through the TV.

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Alice: Eddie's face though, is like, huh?

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Like this, this man has never
picked up a condom in his life.

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What did you think was going to happen?

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Eddie?

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Bex: Well, he doesn't because he's
a good Catholic boy from Texas.

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I mean, that's, that's the trifecta
of not knowing about sex education.

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Alice: Oh my god, literally.

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Literally.

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Yeah.

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Ellen: But he just looks so flabbergasted.

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He's just like, huh, what, what
do you, how did that happen?

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Did the stork visit you?

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Um, no, I don't know.

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We don't get any more of the
reaction after the open mouth shock.

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Alice: Shit, we held hands too
tightly in the back of the car again.

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Ellen: It wasn't that thing
we did in the hospital.

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you know, in the janitor's closet.

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Alice: Oh my god, it probably was.

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Poor Chim's trying to
wake up from his coma.

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Chris wanders off because his parents
are making him a sibling in the closet.

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Ellen: Anyway.

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Bex: But you're right, if we don't
get any further it's like Shannon

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drops that bombshell and then
suddenly we're at Bobby's apartment.

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Yeah.

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Ellen: There's some weird
transitions actually in this.

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Bex: This is such a weird episode.

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I, I feel like it's like three
different episodes that got put

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together in the writer's room.

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Ellen: Yeah.

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Bex: Just like everybody wrote,
it's like that writing project where

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you write a little bit, then you
fold it over and you pass it on.

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I feel like they had a And then the next
person writes something and they pass

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it on, then you open it up and that's
what you've got, that's your story.

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Alice: I feel like they had a lot to,
like, do, and then The network were

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like, "Oh, hey, by the way, like,
have a good, like, last two episodes."

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And they were like, "Two?

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I thought we said 24, not 18.

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Fuck."

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Bex: No, but they knew they were
coming back for season three, right?

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They'd been signed for
more than one season.

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Ellen: By this stage,
they would have, surely.

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Because don't they write and then
film, like, a couple of weeks later?

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Like, they're not, the whole season
isn't written before the filming begins.

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Bex: No.

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Alice: I think back then It
was a slower sort of process.

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Like, I know now they're literally filming
like a month before the episodes come out.

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But back then, I think it
was a longer sort of process.

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Ellen: Yeah, okay.

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Bex: But yeah.

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They had to have known there was
a season three because otherwise

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the ending of season two would be
evil if that was the way that the

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episode, the series was gonna end.

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Yeah, right.

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Yeah, right.

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Ellen: I haven't watched the last episode
yet, so don't tell me, but, um, I'm so

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looking forward to it now that you say it.

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Um, the, I, this second section
is actually really good.

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I like it.

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I like it.

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Like, compared to what we've
just had, this middle section.

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Bex: Is this the therapy session?

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Ellen: Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Cause Bobby is on the, firstly,
he's on the phone to Athena and

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Alice: He's decided that, um, he's,
he's going to embark on a project so

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grand and so vast that he won't have
a moment to even think about something

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as insignificant as possibly having
his life's work taken away from him.

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Ellen: Yeah.

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And he's feeling really good about
the whole suspension thing, obviously.

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Alice: Um, yeah, he's decided he's
going to plan him and Athena a real

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wedding, but obviously he won't
make any decisions without Athena.

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Ellen: Yeah.

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Um, but she's totally cool with that.

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She's like, you go right ahead,
as long as I can choose the dress.

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Bex: Honestly, I think Bobby should
have been allowed to choose the dress.

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Alice: Um, but yeah, so they, they do
some cute relationshipy things, um,

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then hang up and then there's a knock
on Bobby's door and Buck just barges in.

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Bex: And as he's barging in, he's
like, Hey, am I bothering you?

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You'd tell me if I was
bothering you, right?

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I must be bothering you.

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But he's already three quarters
of the way into the apartment,

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making himself comfortable.

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Alice: He's like making a
sandwich in the kitchen.

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"Like, am I bothering you?"

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Bobby's like, "no,
you're not bothering me."

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Ellen: You weren't in the
middle of anything, were you?

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Alice: And Buck's like, "Good,
when are you coming back?"

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So Bobby says he might not be coming back
and Buck just goes, "That's unacceptable.

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We need to get you unsuspended.

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00:21:26,249 --> 00:21:29,539
Uh, maybe I can talk to the chief, testify
on your behalf, that'd help, right?"

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And Bobby just goes, "You
might get suspended too."

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And then we get this great, like, it's so,

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Buck says that the place
doesn't work without Bobby.

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And we get this cut to the
118 where everyone's standing

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at attention in a line.

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As Chim examines them.

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Bex: I found this so interesting
because having what just watched

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season, what season are we up to?

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Season eight.

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And having seen in season eight,
this very, this scene, very

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much this scene multiple times.

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It's so very, it's so very obvious.

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Alice: It's so hard being vague for
Ellen, but yeah, this exact scene.

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This is, it's this, but we
haven't seen it at this point.

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This is the first time we see it
and now we know where it comes from.

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Bex: Yes, exactly.

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It's, but I think, I think it's one
of those things where they had Chim

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do it and then they, they decided
to replicate it for later on.

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So it's like, it's feedback loop . Mm-Hmm.

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. But the imp.

459
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But it's very much the implication
that Chim has learned this.

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Yeah.

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This is how he thinks a captain is
supposed to act, even though I doubt

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Bobby has ever done anything like this.

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00:22:49,610 --> 00:22:54,169
Alice: To be fair, like he's absolutely,
and he even says later, he um, like

464
00:22:54,169 --> 00:22:56,229
he was just doing it to rag on them.

465
00:22:56,889 --> 00:22:59,409
Um, cause like he's, he's
not being serious at all.

466
00:22:59,609 --> 00:23:02,269
Like Buck just goes, "so
we're doing lineups now?"

467
00:23:02,569 --> 00:23:04,080
And he just goes, "stow it, Buckley."

468
00:23:04,330 --> 00:23:06,860
I think, is he wearing
sunglasses in this scene as well?

469
00:23:07,370 --> 00:23:10,729
Bex: Yeah, he's got like his
um, top down sunglasses on.

470
00:23:10,730 --> 00:23:10,897
Alice: Sunglasses on.

471
00:23:10,897 --> 00:23:11,064
Sunglasses on.

472
00:23:11,394 --> 00:23:11,695
Bex: Yeah.

473
00:23:11,695 --> 00:23:11,904
Alice: Yeah.

474
00:23:11,904 --> 00:23:13,284
Um, and he's loving.

475
00:23:13,284 --> 00:23:14,784
Then we go, then we go back
to Bobby's apartment and

476
00:23:14,784 --> 00:23:15,084
Ellen: He's loving it.

477
00:23:15,084 --> 00:23:15,745
He's having a great time

478
00:23:16,584 --> 00:23:19,404
. 
Alice: And um, Bobby says,
yeah, he is at this point.

479
00:23:19,434 --> 00:23:19,495
Yeah.

480
00:23:19,495 --> 00:23:21,469
Bobby says it's been two shifts,

481
00:23:23,570 --> 00:23:24,110
two shifts.

482
00:23:24,114 --> 00:23:26,064
So like, Buck's already, "Like, no.

483
00:23:26,064 --> 00:23:28,495
I'm like, we, we can't deal with
this, Bobby, you need to come back."

484
00:23:28,644 --> 00:23:30,174
And it's been two shifts.

485
00:23:30,325 --> 00:23:35,574
Bex: Um, but yeah, so Bobby's confused
because he thought that having Chimney

486
00:23:35,574 --> 00:23:39,354
would be in charge would be easier
than bringing in an external captain

487
00:23:39,354 --> 00:23:41,044
because Chimney was their friend.

488
00:23:41,364 --> 00:23:44,514
And Buck's like, yeah,
Chimney is my friend.

489
00:23:44,754 --> 00:23:47,194
Intern Captain Han is a monster.

490
00:23:51,274 --> 00:23:52,580
He's like, So we go back to the line up.

491
00:23:52,580 --> 00:23:55,274
Ellen: Yeah, we go back to
Chim, Chim's like, "Listen up.

492
00:23:55,274 --> 00:23:57,554
The word of the day is hose maintenance."

493
00:23:58,634 --> 00:23:59,509
And Hen's just like, "nah.

494
00:23:59,509 --> 00:24:00,239
I'm out."

495
00:24:00,239 --> 00:24:00,349
Alice: Yeah.

496
00:24:00,349 --> 00:24:01,574
Hen literally just leaves.

497
00:24:01,584 --> 00:24:02,334
She's like, "I'm out."

498
00:24:02,434 --> 00:24:02,924
And walks off.

499
00:24:02,954 --> 00:24:03,364
And like, he

500
00:24:03,364 --> 00:24:08,074
Bex: Which is further evidence to
when we were watching, um, "Bobby

501
00:24:08,074 --> 00:24:11,022
Begins" and I was saying that
Hen and Sal were the menaces that

502
00:24:11,022 --> 00:24:12,783
were running all the captains out?

503
00:24:12,864 --> 00:24:14,474
This is, this is why.

504
00:24:14,734 --> 00:24:17,254
Alice: But like, Chim doesn't
even bother to like, which is why

505
00:24:17,324 --> 00:24:18,604
he's definitely not being serious.

506
00:24:18,634 --> 00:24:19,674
Because Hen's just like, nope.

507
00:24:20,004 --> 00:24:20,454
And leaves.

508
00:24:20,454 --> 00:24:21,264
And Chim's like, yeah, okay.

509
00:24:21,954 --> 00:24:22,284
Yeah, okay.

510
00:24:22,794 --> 00:24:24,634
Whereas, like, if Buck had
done that, he would have been

511
00:24:24,634 --> 00:24:26,134
like, "Buckley, get back here!"

512
00:24:26,284 --> 00:24:28,594
So he's literally only
doing it to screw with Buck.

513
00:24:28,604 --> 00:24:31,364
Ellen: Yeah, I don't know why they're
all still playing along, like, uh,

514
00:24:31,495 --> 00:24:35,194
like, wouldn't they all just go, no,
come on, just leave, like, you know.

515
00:24:35,245 --> 00:24:39,384
Alice: Well, again, it's been two
shifts, so he's done this twice so far.

516
00:24:42,834 --> 00:24:50,264
But, um, then we cut to, um, Bobby's
apartment, and Hen's now there.

517
00:24:51,179 --> 00:24:52,269
in her civvies.

518
00:24:53,109 --> 00:24:54,459
Um, Bobby says

519
00:24:54,459 --> 00:24:55,190
Bex: Bitching about Han.

520
00:24:55,190 --> 00:24:55,859
Alice: Yeah.

521
00:24:55,859 --> 00:24:59,369
Bobby says, um, he's just being
conscientious and Hen goes,

522
00:24:59,399 --> 00:25:01,349
conscientious or mad with power?

523
00:25:02,369 --> 00:25:06,529
And we go back to the 118 where,
um, Dumb and Dumber are rolling

524
00:25:06,539 --> 00:25:10,529
hoses and Chim goes, "That's not the
most efficient way to do it, guys."

525
00:25:10,530 --> 00:25:17,399
Um, and then we go back to, it's
one of those scenes that just

526
00:25:17,399 --> 00:25:20,389
like cuts It's back and forth,
but it's really, really well done.

527
00:25:21,339 --> 00:25:21,569
Yeah.

528
00:25:21,579 --> 00:25:24,969
Um, because like half the time
you think that he's talking

529
00:25:24,979 --> 00:25:27,249
to, like, the previous person.

530
00:25:27,759 --> 00:25:30,123
Um, and then it's another
one of the members of the

531
00:25:30,123 --> 00:25:30,259
Ellen: bitching.

532
00:25:30,259 --> 00:25:32,699
Yeah, they all, they all
go and have a bitch to him.

533
00:25:33,319 --> 00:25:33,904
Alice: Um, yeah.

534
00:25:35,264 --> 00:25:39,214
So yeah, so, Bobby explains that a
week ago Chimney was one of you, now

535
00:25:39,214 --> 00:25:40,624
he's responsible for all of them.

536
00:25:41,154 --> 00:25:42,714
Um, it's an adjustment for everyone.

537
00:25:43,074 --> 00:25:45,534
And Hen goes, "well, how
long will we be adjusting?

538
00:25:45,544 --> 00:25:47,844
Because responsible
Chimney's freaking me out."

539
00:25:49,244 --> 00:25:53,994
Um, and then we go back to the
118 where Chim's showing Dumb

540
00:25:53,994 --> 00:25:55,654
and Dumber and Hen how it's done.

541
00:25:56,379 --> 00:26:00,309
Um, where he's like rolling the hose
nice and tight and they're just watching.

542
00:26:00,349 --> 00:26:03,089
They're just like, okay, like,
cause he's literally just doing it.

543
00:26:03,099 --> 00:26:06,159
Like he's not even showing them how
he's like, just doing it for them.

544
00:26:07,969 --> 00:26:12,618
Bex: He's showing off all of, all of
the practice that he did those months

545
00:26:12,618 --> 00:26:17,399
when he was not allowed out and all
he did was practice rolling shit.

546
00:26:17,889 --> 00:26:19,521
Ellen: He's showing, he's
got this down to a T.

547
00:26:19,521 --> 00:26:22,089
He's getting it back, getting his own
back cause he had to do it so much.

548
00:26:22,089 --> 00:26:22,389
Alice: Yeah.

549
00:26:23,189 --> 00:26:23,899
Um, yeah.

550
00:26:23,899 --> 00:26:27,729
Hen says it's not good and
he's not  he's not Bobby.

551
00:26:28,279 --> 00:26:31,839
And Bobby says you shouldn't expect him
to be, and you should tell him that.

552
00:26:33,179 --> 00:26:37,069
Bex: But it's clear that Chim
expects himself to be like Bobby

553
00:26:37,069 --> 00:26:38,614
because we then cut to him.

554
00:26:38,614 --> 00:26:39,679
He's trying so hard.

555
00:26:39,679 --> 00:26:41,119
He's trying to cook them lunch.

556
00:26:42,189 --> 00:26:48,159
And while I, while I fully, I
fully believe that Chim can cook,

557
00:26:48,329 --> 00:26:50,119
he can't cook to Bobby's level.

558
00:26:50,859 --> 00:26:50,879
No.

559
00:26:51,699 --> 00:26:56,959
And he is trying to cook
shaking beef for the 118 and

560
00:26:56,984 --> 00:26:59,144
Alice: Hang on, hang on,
why is it shaking beef?

561
00:27:00,074 --> 00:27:00,864
Bex: Because you shake it.

562
00:27:00,864 --> 00:27:01,384
Alice: Because you shake it.

563
00:27:01,854 --> 00:27:02,274
Thank you, Chim.

564
00:27:02,274 --> 00:27:06,394
Bex: But, I mean, I would just preface
that I'm a white Australian girl and

565
00:27:06,394 --> 00:27:11,634
far be it for me to critique a Korean
American man on how to cook Vietnamese

566
00:27:11,634 --> 00:27:15,744
food, um, but that's not how you cook
shaking beef and even I know that.

567
00:27:16,294 --> 00:27:22,009
Because he's literally got three pieces
of steak in a pan and flipping them

568
00:27:22,019 --> 00:27:26,709
backwards and forwards when it should
be tiny little bite sized pieces of

569
00:27:26,709 --> 00:27:28,939
beef that you shake around in the pan.

570
00:27:28,940 --> 00:27:33,229
You should be able to literally shake
it, not just flip the beef around.

571
00:27:33,479 --> 00:27:39,309
Um, but it doesn't matter because as
he's flipping, the oil catches and

572
00:27:39,319 --> 00:27:40,829
the entire pan goes up in flames.

573
00:27:41,049 --> 00:27:42,579
In a firehouse!

574
00:27:44,414 --> 00:27:47,184
Well, I mean, what better place
to set a fire than in a firehouse?

575
00:27:47,184 --> 00:27:50,844
Because there is a fire extinguisher,
not like three feet away, which

576
00:27:50,844 --> 00:27:54,514
Hen goes and grabs and sprays it
liberally all over the stovetop

577
00:27:54,514 --> 00:27:56,854
and the pan, putting out the fire.

578
00:27:57,074 --> 00:27:59,514
Ellen: If they're in the middle
of the room like this, right?

579
00:27:59,524 --> 00:28:03,184
They're on an island bench in
the middle of the room and it's

580
00:28:03,344 --> 00:28:04,874
a frying pan that's on fire.

581
00:28:05,634 --> 00:28:09,724
Surely you could just sort of take
it off the heat and wait for the

582
00:28:09,724 --> 00:28:11,684
flames to go away rather than.

583
00:28:12,894 --> 00:28:16,304
Because fire extinguishers
are really messy, like.

584
00:28:17,024 --> 00:28:20,314
Bex: I would also question
whether that fire extinguisher

585
00:28:20,314 --> 00:28:22,154
normally lives in that position.

586
00:28:22,454 --> 00:28:26,114
Yeah, it's right out there in was A,
placed there for dramatic effect, or

587
00:28:26,134 --> 00:28:30,942
B, Hen had specifically put it there
knowing that Chim was going to cook.

588
00:28:30,964 --> 00:28:32,955
Alice: Yeah, Hen probably
moved it there for Chim.

589
00:28:33,574 --> 00:28:34,594
Bex: But dinner's ruined.

590
00:28:34,594 --> 00:28:35,854
Alice: Yeah, dinner's very ruined.

591
00:28:35,904 --> 00:28:36,114
What?

592
00:28:36,205 --> 00:28:36,384
Yeah.

593
00:28:36,415 --> 00:28:36,715
But yeah.

594
00:28:36,715 --> 00:28:40,225
What was it that Bobby's kid said The best
place to catch on fire was a fire station.

595
00:28:40,465 --> 00:28:41,334
Ellen: Yeah, I guess so.

596
00:28:41,544 --> 00:28:41,904
? Yes.

597
00:28:44,835 --> 00:28:48,045
Thankfully they didn't have to
yank a hose up from that they'd

598
00:28:48,045 --> 00:28:49,455
just rolled up from downstairs.

599
00:28:52,095 --> 00:28:53,295
, 
Bex: feed it up through the stairs.

600
00:28:53,325 --> 00:28:53,385
Yeah.

601
00:28:54,315 --> 00:28:57,165
Uh, so no one is getting
shaking beef for dinner?

602
00:28:57,195 --> 00:28:58,665
They are getting pizza.

603
00:28:59,175 --> 00:28:59,325
Yes.

604
00:28:59,504 --> 00:29:07,135
Um, but even though it is crappy pizza,
apparently they are all supposed to

605
00:29:07,165 --> 00:29:10,735
still sit and eat as a family, as
Eddie finds out when he grabs two

606
00:29:10,735 --> 00:29:15,364
slices and starts to walk away from
the table, and Chimney demands him,

607
00:29:15,505 --> 00:29:16,924
demands that he has to sit down.

608
00:29:17,035 --> 00:29:18,295
Alice: I wonder where Eddie was going?

609
00:29:18,675 --> 00:29:20,074
Like, back to the hoses?

610
00:29:20,365 --> 00:29:21,074
To the couch?

611
00:29:21,074 --> 00:29:22,754
Because he wasn't going to the couch.

612
00:29:24,085 --> 00:29:27,655
Bex: I don't know where he was going,
but I do love that we get Chim scolding

613
00:29:27,655 --> 00:29:31,894
him to sit down and then immediately
we get Eddie in therapy with Bobby

614
00:29:31,894 --> 00:29:34,104
going, "I just, I just sat there.

615
00:29:34,104 --> 00:29:35,265
I didn't know what to say."

616
00:29:35,315 --> 00:29:36,365
Like, did Chim hurt
your feelings that much?

617
00:29:42,450 --> 00:29:44,610
But no, he's not talking about the pizza.

618
00:29:45,370 --> 00:29:47,019
He's talking about Shannon.

619
00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:48,280
Alice: He is talking about Shannon.

620
00:29:48,390 --> 00:29:48,610
Yes.

621
00:29:49,580 --> 00:29:53,879
Um, we should mention, so this whole
time when all the 118 have been

622
00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:58,059
there, um, chatting, Bobby's got
like all this wedding stuff all over

623
00:29:58,059 --> 00:30:02,635
his table and it just like changes
slightly as, each members there.

624
00:30:03,275 --> 00:30:06,265
Bex: And they all notice that it's
there and they all call him out on it.

625
00:30:06,275 --> 00:30:08,105
Like, are you sure we're not interrupting?

626
00:30:10,535 --> 00:30:11,595
I'm not in your hair.

627
00:30:11,855 --> 00:30:14,384
Alice: Like you'd tell me if
I was bothering you, right?

628
00:30:14,384 --> 00:30:14,804
Like,

629
00:30:16,184 --> 00:30:21,770
Bex: um, I was like, there's, there's,
The level of exasperation and frustration

630
00:30:21,770 --> 00:30:25,700
is just sort of building with each person
that shows up as Bobby really just wants

631
00:30:25,700 --> 00:30:29,330
to be working on this project and he keeps
getting dragged into everyone's drama.

632
00:30:29,370 --> 00:30:32,880
Ellen: And it's also like, how can you not
think that you're anyone's father, Bobby?

633
00:30:34,270 --> 00:30:35,000
You are everyone's father.

634
00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:40,845
Bex: Especially when, after he gets
done reassuring Eddie that, you

635
00:30:40,845 --> 00:30:44,270
know, If he and Shannon do decide to
have another baby, they will figure

636
00:30:44,270 --> 00:30:48,650
it out, they, he's already a good
dad, he'll, he'll be a good husband.

637
00:30:49,639 --> 00:30:50,680
Harry shows up.

638
00:30:50,830 --> 00:30:51,410
Ellen: Oh yeah.

639
00:30:51,730 --> 00:30:54,190
Bex: And I don't know why Harry
is there, because it seems like

640
00:30:54,190 --> 00:30:56,730
it's the middle of the day, so
shouldn't the kid be in school?

641
00:30:56,940 --> 00:31:00,650
But he obviously heard that, you know,
it's Nash Family Therapy Hour and

642
00:31:00,650 --> 00:31:02,180
he's decided he's going to join in.

643
00:31:02,190 --> 00:31:02,320
so

644
00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:04,980
Alice: maybe it's just like early
afternoon, or like late afternoon.

645
00:31:05,270 --> 00:31:07,110
Ellen: How does he even
know where Bobby lives?

646
00:31:08,075 --> 00:31:09,295
Maybe they've gone over there to visit.

647
00:31:09,295 --> 00:31:10,105
Bex: How did he get there?

648
00:31:11,475 --> 00:31:14,135
Alice: Well, Michael's at work,
Athena's at work, Bobby's not at work.

649
00:31:14,135 --> 00:31:15,515
He's like, I'll pick up the kids.

650
00:31:16,045 --> 00:31:20,094
Bex: Yeah, it's just the most random
inclusion of having Harry in there.

651
00:31:21,545 --> 00:31:22,535
It's all the children.

652
00:31:22,535 --> 00:31:22,895
But it's cute.

653
00:31:24,035 --> 00:31:27,915
It's very much all the, it's cute
though because he's, um, he's bitching

654
00:31:27,915 --> 00:31:30,735
to Bobby about there's a school
dance coming up and he wants to ask

655
00:31:30,735 --> 00:31:35,435
a girl out but he's um, he's really
nervous because what if she says no?

656
00:31:35,535 --> 00:31:36,915
Alice: What if she laughs at him?

657
00:31:38,485 --> 00:31:40,855
Bex: Bobby's like, "Well,
what if she doesn't?

658
00:31:41,545 --> 00:31:45,705
Um, you know, I was really nervous when I
asked your mother out," and Harry's like,

659
00:31:45,705 --> 00:31:46,935
"Yeah, but you've got a fire engine."

660
00:31:49,254 --> 00:31:49,715
Ellen: And he's like,

661
00:31:49,735 --> 00:31:51,534
Bex: I was just waiting for
the wheels to keep going.

662
00:31:51,535 --> 00:31:52,985
Like, can I borrow the fire engine?

663
00:31:52,985 --> 00:31:55,634
Alice: Can I borrow it
to ask this kid out?

664
00:31:56,354 --> 00:32:01,345
Um, and Bobby goes, Oh, I did.

665
00:32:02,445 --> 00:32:05,354
And then, then we get Chim.

666
00:32:05,939 --> 00:32:08,169
Who's also in family therapy.

667
00:32:08,859 --> 00:32:10,139
Ellen: He's like, they all hate me.

668
00:32:11,569 --> 00:32:12,819
Alice: They don't hate you, Chim.

669
00:32:13,169 --> 00:32:18,689
Bex: Bobby says lying through his teeth
after listening to him and Buck and

670
00:32:18,689 --> 00:32:20,629
probably Eddie as well at some point.

671
00:32:20,689 --> 00:32:22,739
Alice: And, um, Chim's
like, "No, no, they do."

672
00:32:22,929 --> 00:32:25,839
And then he like looks at
all the wedding planning and

673
00:32:25,839 --> 00:32:27,199
goes, "This, this a bad time?"

674
00:32:27,459 --> 00:32:28,899
And Bobby's like, "It's fine."

675
00:32:30,589 --> 00:32:34,659
But yeah, Chim says, when the chief asked
him to take over, he thought it'd be fun.

676
00:32:34,979 --> 00:32:38,229
Couple weeks of bossing everyone
around, making Buck wash his car.

677
00:32:38,249 --> 00:32:39,189
What's not to love?

678
00:32:39,569 --> 00:32:40,919
Except apparently everything.

679
00:32:41,619 --> 00:32:45,839
Um, so yeah, he literally took it because
he wanted to make Buck wash his car.

680
00:32:46,749 --> 00:32:49,339
Bex: I guess they also figured
that it would be temporary.

681
00:32:49,340 --> 00:32:55,169
You know, they're expecting it just to be
a couple of shifts and he can have fun and

682
00:32:55,169 --> 00:32:57,569
then he can go back to just being Chimney.

683
00:32:57,959 --> 00:33:02,979
Um, But he still has to work
with these people, so like, yeah.

684
00:33:03,059 --> 00:33:06,669
He might actually have to
like, lead them out on calls.

685
00:33:06,689 --> 00:33:07,419
Yeah.

686
00:33:08,929 --> 00:33:10,089
Ellen: For more than one day.

687
00:33:10,119 --> 00:33:10,219
I

688
00:33:10,229 --> 00:33:14,559
Alice: don't, I don't think he thought
of the whole like, on call thing.

689
00:33:15,279 --> 00:33:17,929
He was definitely just like,
oh yeah, like, this'll be fun.

690
00:33:18,309 --> 00:33:21,309
And then they got to an accident and
he's just like, oh fuck, this is not fun.

691
00:33:22,409 --> 00:33:25,569
Ellen: But Bobby talks him into it,
he's like, "You know, you know this

692
00:33:25,569 --> 00:33:27,009
team, you know what they're capable of.

693
00:33:27,589 --> 00:33:29,229
You just have to trust them and yourself."

694
00:33:29,230 --> 00:33:32,199
So good advice, Bobby.

695
00:33:33,319 --> 00:33:33,979
Alice: Thanks Dad.

696
00:33:34,079 --> 00:33:40,789
Bex: Thanks I do think that if they had
let Interim Captain Han go for a little

697
00:33:40,789 --> 00:33:44,289
longer, Chim would make a good captain.

698
00:33:44,389 --> 00:33:44,719
Ellen: Yeah.

699
00:33:45,759 --> 00:33:48,179
Bex: If they gave him the
chance to, like, fight.

700
00:33:48,649 --> 00:33:51,699
really find himself in the role,
he would do a really good job.

701
00:33:51,739 --> 00:33:54,589
Alice: If he didn't fuck around
to start with, absolutely.

702
00:33:55,299 --> 00:33:58,179
Ellen: Well, later on when, okay,
I'm jumping ahead here, but later

703
00:33:58,179 --> 00:34:02,419
on when he said, when Hen calls
him out for calling Bobby, I was

704
00:34:02,419 --> 00:34:03,609
like a little bit disappointed.

705
00:34:03,609 --> 00:34:05,799
I'm like, I thought Chim
could have done this.

706
00:34:06,119 --> 00:34:09,309
He could have known that, like,
he didn't, why'd you have to

707
00:34:09,309 --> 00:34:11,469
make him call Bobby about that?

708
00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:12,779
Anyway.

709
00:34:13,279 --> 00:34:15,749
Bex: Yeah, it, they just,
like, even the writers are

710
00:34:15,789 --> 00:34:17,229
undermining their own character.

711
00:34:17,229 --> 00:34:17,989
Yeah, yeah.

712
00:34:17,989 --> 00:34:21,879
By not allowing him to come
up with his own solutions.

713
00:34:21,879 --> 00:34:24,749
Although I do agree with him
that, you know, it's not exactly

714
00:34:24,759 --> 00:34:28,849
cheating because it's, he's using
the resources at his disposal.

715
00:34:28,849 --> 00:34:30,539
Yeah, he's using his resources, it's fine.

716
00:34:31,289 --> 00:34:33,769
I mean, it's the, it's the
equivalent of Googling.

717
00:34:33,859 --> 00:34:35,779
It's just, it happens
to be a human Google.

718
00:34:36,059 --> 00:34:38,439
Alice: It's like, it's like at work.

719
00:34:38,439 --> 00:34:40,549
Like we'll be like, Oh,
I'll just look that up.

720
00:34:40,749 --> 00:34:43,969
And I think customers think that we
have like this magical system that

721
00:34:43,969 --> 00:34:45,179
tells us about all the products.

722
00:34:45,179 --> 00:34:46,209
We literally just Google it.

723
00:34:46,569 --> 00:34:48,229
You're literally just Googling it.

724
00:34:49,059 --> 00:34:52,479
Um, like you could Google it
yourself guys, but no, I'm

725
00:34:52,479 --> 00:34:53,769
getting paid to Google it for you.

726
00:34:53,769 --> 00:34:54,379
This is fine.

727
00:34:56,539 --> 00:34:57,569
Bex: That'd be a good job.

728
00:34:57,874 --> 00:34:59,844
I'd be happy to be paid
for the Google shit.

729
00:35:00,434 --> 00:35:03,264
Alice: Yeah, except you've got to deal
with the people who want it Googled.

730
00:35:03,714 --> 00:35:05,184
Bex: Yeah, no, I don't want
to deal with the people.

731
00:35:05,234 --> 00:35:06,074
Can I just Google it?

732
00:35:06,075 --> 00:35:12,234
Ellen: All right, well, that
is the end of the fun part.

733
00:35:12,824 --> 00:35:16,084
Everything from here is
just questionable to me.

734
00:35:16,344 --> 00:35:16,764
I was like.

735
00:35:17,934 --> 00:35:22,954
Alice: Yeah, then we go to a massive, um,
work health and safety violation, which

736
00:35:22,964 --> 00:35:24,314
I think that it's, what do they call it?

737
00:35:24,494 --> 00:35:27,144
It's like O S H A, like OSHA.

738
00:35:27,864 --> 00:35:28,334
Bex: Osha.

739
00:35:28,334 --> 00:35:29,264
Alice: Yeah, there you go.

740
00:35:30,074 --> 00:35:36,544
Bex: Yeah, so we've got another
one of interim Captain Han's calls.

741
00:35:36,774 --> 00:35:37,974
He's the lead for this one.

742
00:35:38,744 --> 00:35:42,584
But let's set it up first and let's see if
I can get through this without screaming.

743
00:35:45,059 --> 00:35:50,599
So we are at a chocolate factory
and the winners of the sixth grade

744
00:35:50,689 --> 00:35:55,169
bake sale, their prize is a tour
of a chocolate factory, I guess?

745
00:35:55,189 --> 00:35:57,089
Which just sounds like
a field trip, but sure.

746
00:35:58,489 --> 00:36:05,784
But they are not just observing the
process of the chocolate being made.

747
00:36:05,784 --> 00:36:10,804
They are actually on the factory floor
being led through and around the machines

748
00:36:10,814 --> 00:36:12,844
and up on the gangplank and gangways.

749
00:36:13,104 --> 00:36:14,714
They are not in suits.

750
00:36:14,714 --> 00:36:16,344
They do not have hair nets on.

751
00:36:16,754 --> 00:36:18,534
Um, it's,

752
00:36:19,204 --> 00:36:19,524
Ellen: yeah.

753
00:36:20,444 --> 00:36:22,034
Bex: Yeah, it's a massive OSHA violation.

754
00:36:22,034 --> 00:36:22,834
Alice: Yeah, massively.

755
00:36:22,884 --> 00:36:23,574
Like, I've been to

756
00:36:23,574 --> 00:36:24,624
Ellen: Not in any way hygienic.

757
00:36:25,534 --> 00:36:29,244
Alice: I've been to like a chocolate
factory thing and it's all like

758
00:36:29,244 --> 00:36:32,264
behind glass, like you just sort
of walk on the outside and look in.

759
00:36:32,624 --> 00:36:32,964
Ellen: Yeah.

760
00:36:33,224 --> 00:36:33,334
Alice: Yeah.

761
00:36:33,644 --> 00:36:36,704
Um, did you ever go to the
Cadbury factory while it was

762
00:36:37,544 --> 00:36:40,524
Bex: No, I never went when
they, when they had tours.

763
00:36:40,534 --> 00:36:42,694
Alice: That was like the only
part of being in Tasmania.

764
00:36:42,694 --> 00:36:43,604
What were you doing?

765
00:36:44,624 --> 00:36:45,724
Bex: Living in Tasmania.

766
00:36:45,725 --> 00:36:48,694
Ellen: You don't go to places like
that when you live near them, come on.

767
00:36:48,695 --> 00:36:51,624
Bex: You don't have to tour
shit when you're a local.

768
00:36:51,624 --> 00:36:57,104
Alice: Wait, have you even been to
um, Oh, what's the, uh, Port Arthur?

769
00:36:57,754 --> 00:36:58,064
Bex: Yes.

770
00:36:58,214 --> 00:36:58,594
Okay.

771
00:36:59,174 --> 00:37:00,044
I've been to Port Arthur.

772
00:37:00,474 --> 00:37:04,094
Alice: Okay, at least you've
been to like, I was about to

773
00:37:04,094 --> 00:37:05,094
say, have you been to Hobart?

774
00:37:05,094 --> 00:37:06,374
Then I'm like, no wait, I'm
pretty sure you live there.

775
00:37:07,574 --> 00:37:07,964
Bex: Yeah.

776
00:37:11,104 --> 00:37:15,244
No, I mean like the historical stuff
you do go to because you probably end up

777
00:37:15,244 --> 00:37:17,364
going there by a school for an excursion.

778
00:37:17,365 --> 00:37:20,064
Alice: Well, that was mainly
why I was like, cause like, I

779
00:37:20,064 --> 00:37:23,574
remember there was a school camp
that, um, some of the kids did.

780
00:37:23,574 --> 00:37:26,034
I never went on like the
voluntary school camps.

781
00:37:26,534 --> 00:37:26,824
Um.

782
00:37:26,834 --> 00:37:27,044
Yeah.

783
00:37:27,364 --> 00:37:30,004
But yeah, there was like a school
camp to Tasmania and they went to

784
00:37:30,004 --> 00:37:32,454
the chocolate factory and brought
a whole bunch of stuff back.

785
00:37:32,464 --> 00:37:34,694
So I was like, yeah, did you go at school?

786
00:37:34,694 --> 00:37:35,394
But no, you didn't.

787
00:37:35,524 --> 00:37:36,464
Bex: No, no.

788
00:37:37,034 --> 00:37:38,844
Local schools, Cadbury's was not.

789
00:37:40,594 --> 00:37:43,694
From my school anyway, we never went
to Cadbury's as part of the tour.

790
00:37:44,064 --> 00:37:45,564
Alice: Useless, stupid school.

791
00:37:46,034 --> 00:37:50,524
Ellen: We went to one in Margaret
River, I want to say when we were

792
00:37:50,524 --> 00:37:55,684
visiting Perth and my kids just
thought it was like Christmas.

793
00:37:56,524 --> 00:38:00,564
because not only can you watch the
chocolate being made through a glass

794
00:38:00,564 --> 00:38:03,854
window, you can't go anywhere near
the chocolate that's being made,

795
00:38:04,334 --> 00:38:08,784
but they had like big bowls of
like chocolate that you could eat.

796
00:38:08,785 --> 00:38:09,824
Bex: The factory seconds?

797
00:38:10,164 --> 00:38:10,444
Yeah.

798
00:38:10,444 --> 00:38:10,644
Yeah.

799
00:38:11,464 --> 00:38:13,584
Ellen: You weren't allowed to, because it
was after COVID, you weren't allowed to

800
00:38:13,584 --> 00:38:16,604
just touch it with your hands, which I'm
sure there were plenty of kids who were

801
00:38:16,604 --> 00:38:20,784
just sticking their hands in and taking
handfuls, but they had little, you know,

802
00:38:20,784 --> 00:38:22,614
scoops that you had to use to get it out.

803
00:38:22,744 --> 00:38:27,224
But you could eat as much chocolate as
you wanted and they were just like, it was

804
00:38:27,224 --> 00:38:28,494
like Charlie and the Chocolate Factory.

805
00:38:28,495 --> 00:38:32,234
Alice: But, but yeah, I went to the one at
the ginger factory and yeah, you literally

806
00:38:32,234 --> 00:38:34,924
just walk like up a path next to it.

807
00:38:35,784 --> 00:38:36,144
And look in.

808
00:38:36,154 --> 00:38:37,744
And you're like, oh
yes, there's chocolate.

809
00:38:39,154 --> 00:38:42,154
Ellen: I don't think they
let anybody in to any kind of

810
00:38:42,154 --> 00:38:44,434
manufacturing facility with food.

811
00:38:44,434 --> 00:38:45,184
Alice: Especially here.

812
00:38:45,184 --> 00:38:47,274
Like, it might be, maybe it's
just different in America.

813
00:38:47,944 --> 00:38:48,594
Cause like our healthcare is

814
00:38:48,614 --> 00:38:51,309
Bex: I really don't think so.

815
00:38:51,309 --> 00:38:53,194
Alice: I don't know.

816
00:38:53,194 --> 00:38:56,664
Ellen: Americans, can you go
into a chocolate manufacturing?

817
00:38:58,494 --> 00:38:58,794
Bex: Yeah.

818
00:38:58,894 --> 00:39:00,464
I, I, I highly doubt it.

819
00:39:00,465 --> 00:39:03,424
I think this was strictly
for dramatic purposes.

820
00:39:04,064 --> 00:39:08,174
Um So the children are
on a tour of the factory.

821
00:39:08,204 --> 00:39:13,694
They have some parent help, um,
and they also have the, the teacher

822
00:39:13,744 --> 00:39:15,104
who is leading the excursion.

823
00:39:16,074 --> 00:39:23,064
Um, and here's where I start to get angry
because the, one of the parent helpers

824
00:39:23,064 --> 00:39:26,254
turns to the teacher who I'm not even
going to try and pronounce his name.

825
00:39:26,254 --> 00:39:27,254
I'm just going to call him Mr.

826
00:39:27,254 --> 00:39:27,584
D.

827
00:39:28,544 --> 00:39:32,264
And she says to him, "Are you
sure that you are okay being here?

828
00:39:32,354 --> 00:39:35,744
Isn't this like an alcoholic
touring a distillery?"

829
00:39:35,744 --> 00:39:36,914
Because apparently Mr.

830
00:39:36,914 --> 00:39:38,024
D used to be fat.

831
00:39:38,594 --> 00:39:41,304
Ellen: Yeah, this is just a
horrible thing to say to anybody.

832
00:39:42,244 --> 00:39:45,494
Alice: Yeah, apparently
he's lost 195 pounds, which

833
00:39:45,684 --> 00:39:47,614
Bex: But through sheer willpower.

834
00:39:48,724 --> 00:39:52,654
So not, so, oh, I don't even
know where to start my rant.

835
00:39:52,764 --> 00:39:56,404
Alice: Um, that's, that's 88,
about 88 and a half, um, kilos

836
00:39:58,244 --> 00:40:04,604
Bex: So we've got the, like,
the sheer, um, Oh my god, I am

837
00:40:04,604 --> 00:40:07,514
so mad with this storyline that
I've completely lost my words.

838
00:40:07,544 --> 00:40:14,494
But basically, they're implying
that fatness is because of laziness.

839
00:40:16,134 --> 00:40:18,944
Because he had the willpower to be thin.

840
00:40:19,454 --> 00:40:22,264
And the other parent says,
oh, I greatly admire that.

841
00:40:23,524 --> 00:40:27,464
It's the implication that everyone who
is fat just isn't, you know, strong

842
00:40:27,464 --> 00:40:33,249
enough mentally to get themselves
thin, which is so wrong because there

843
00:40:33,249 --> 00:40:38,364
are so many hormonal conditions and
physical conditions that it's physically

844
00:40:38,364 --> 00:40:42,254
impossible, no matter how strong your
willpower is, to lose weight because

845
00:40:42,254 --> 00:40:43,694
your body is fighting against that.

846
00:40:44,084 --> 00:40:49,614
Um, and then, um, There is not, it's
not even counting, like, mental health

847
00:40:49,634 --> 00:40:53,384
conditions that are going to affect your
willpower, that no matter how much you

848
00:40:53,394 --> 00:40:56,804
want to lose the weight, there are things
going on in your brain that's just, it

849
00:40:56,804 --> 00:41:02,004
is physically impossible to control your
calories the way that, so that you can do

850
00:41:02,004 --> 00:41:03,704
the whole calorie in calorie out thing.

851
00:41:04,014 --> 00:41:08,854
Um, it also makes me really
angry that, let's say that Mr.

852
00:41:08,854 --> 00:41:17,579
D is one of those people who, His
weight was simply due to overeating,

853
00:41:17,599 --> 00:41:21,109
and the overeating was because
he was addicted to chocolate.

854
00:41:21,389 --> 00:41:23,579
Why are we playing off
addiction for laughs?

855
00:41:25,094 --> 00:41:29,674
You would never have this show have an
alcoholic go into a distillery and end

856
00:41:29,684 --> 00:41:35,154
up head first into a vat of something and
have everyone go, Oh, isn't this funny?

857
00:41:35,214 --> 00:41:37,434
Alice: Isn't it funny that
Bobby fell asleep and set

858
00:41:37,434 --> 00:41:38,534
his whole apartment on fire?

859
00:41:38,604 --> 00:41:39,474
I laughed about it.

860
00:41:41,164 --> 00:41:42,764
It's just For legal
reasons, that was a joke.

861
00:41:42,764 --> 00:41:43,664
I absolutely like it.

862
00:41:43,664 --> 00:41:44,634
Yeah.

863
00:41:44,634 --> 00:41:46,144
Ellen: We cried about that.

864
00:41:47,094 --> 00:41:47,114
Yeah.

865
00:41:48,294 --> 00:41:52,034
Bex: Yeah, for some reason, you can have
an addiction to drugs, you can have an

866
00:41:52,034 --> 00:41:57,244
addiction to alcohol, and that shows
treat it seriously, but addictions to

867
00:41:57,264 --> 00:42:02,264
food, addictions to sugar, it can be just
as serious and just as debilitating, but

868
00:42:02,684 --> 00:42:08,124
because it's food, it's not as serious,
and it can be played off for laughs.

869
00:42:08,614 --> 00:42:11,944
Ellen: I mean, there's also the, there
are a lot of people out there who do

870
00:42:11,954 --> 00:42:16,574
have this kind of unhealthy relationship
with food where they believe that.

871
00:42:17,614 --> 00:42:21,314
They're being weak in, you
know, giving in or whatever.

872
00:42:21,404 --> 00:42:27,714
So, but even so while that is true, you
don't need to play it this way on TV.

873
00:42:28,554 --> 00:42:30,534
Like, we don't have to show this.

874
00:42:31,394 --> 00:42:34,894
Bex: And then they like, they
really, um, hammer the message

875
00:42:34,894 --> 00:42:39,964
home because at the end, uh, of
the emergency, we find out that Mr.

876
00:42:39,964 --> 00:42:42,444
D didn't lose the weight
through sheer willpower.

877
00:42:42,454 --> 00:42:43,934
He got lap band surgery.

878
00:42:44,274 --> 00:42:47,974
And the parent help just looks
absolutely horrified at him.

879
00:42:48,719 --> 00:42:52,579
It's like, oh my god, I thought that
you did this through hard work and you

880
00:42:52,579 --> 00:42:54,859
were a good person, but no, you cheated.

881
00:42:55,159 --> 00:42:57,869
You, like, you failed
at being a thin person.

882
00:42:58,789 --> 00:42:59,519
Alice: Yeah, it's fun.

883
00:42:59,529 --> 00:43:05,239
So I, I did, um, the keto diet for
three years and I was so miserable.

884
00:43:06,099 --> 00:43:11,539
Like, yeah, I lost a whole heap of weight,
but I couldn't eat anything I wanted.

885
00:43:11,559 --> 00:43:17,869
I was, literally, I would cry
before, um, like, making a meal.

886
00:43:19,069 --> 00:43:20,999
Because I didn't want to eat anything.

887
00:43:21,029 --> 00:43:21,769
I felt like shit.

888
00:43:21,799 --> 00:43:22,929
I was tired all the time.

889
00:43:22,939 --> 00:43:23,529
Like, it was awful.

890
00:43:23,549 --> 00:43:24,499
I was also cold.

891
00:43:25,139 --> 00:43:28,629
Um, I did it because I had health,
like, health issues and doctors

892
00:43:28,629 --> 00:43:29,429
wouldn't take me seriously.

893
00:43:29,429 --> 00:43:30,899
So I was like, fine, I'll lose the weight.

894
00:43:30,929 --> 00:43:31,609
And then guess what?

895
00:43:31,619 --> 00:43:32,879
I still had the health issues.

896
00:43:33,129 --> 00:43:34,399
I was just also colder.

897
00:43:35,649 --> 00:43:38,509
Bex: But I would also say that the
people who have lap band surgery,

898
00:43:38,589 --> 00:43:40,650
that's not a walk in the park.

899
00:43:40,650 --> 00:43:41,417
God, no.

900
00:43:41,417 --> 00:43:42,184
It's surgery.

901
00:43:42,184 --> 00:43:43,334
It's major surgery.

902
00:43:43,964 --> 00:43:48,454
And you, people have the lap band
surgery and they run a serious risk of

903
00:43:48,504 --> 00:43:53,534
malnutrition because suddenly like the
whole reason you lose weight with lap band

904
00:43:53,534 --> 00:43:55,774
surgery is your stomach cannot hold food.

905
00:43:55,794 --> 00:43:57,144
Yeah, you're literally starving yourself.

906
00:43:57,434 --> 00:43:57,734
Yeah.

907
00:43:57,894 --> 00:43:58,474
Yes.

908
00:43:59,794 --> 00:44:02,284
It's not an easy thing.

909
00:44:02,284 --> 00:44:06,084
It's not a quick fix snap of
the fingers golden bullet that

910
00:44:06,084 --> 00:44:07,704
makes the weight melt off you.

911
00:44:07,704 --> 00:44:10,314
It is serious surgery
with serious consequences.

912
00:44:10,364 --> 00:44:10,604
Yeah.

913
00:44:11,789 --> 00:44:15,399
And you have to go through a lot
of hoops in order to get it done.

914
00:44:15,399 --> 00:44:18,699
It's not just, Oh, I feel like,
Oh, I don't feel like, you

915
00:44:18,699 --> 00:44:22,099
know, counting my calories and I
don't feel like doing exercise.

916
00:44:22,099 --> 00:44:24,309
So I'm just going to have
major abdominal surgery.

917
00:44:25,319 --> 00:44:26,749
That's not how it works.

918
00:44:28,729 --> 00:44:34,633
So with that set up, our medical
emergency is that the children are

919
00:44:34,633 --> 00:44:38,349
led to a vat of chocolate liqueur.

920
00:44:38,739 --> 00:44:41,659
But not chocolate liqueur,
as in chocolate with alcohol.

921
00:44:41,659 --> 00:44:43,279
It's just, it's melted chocolate.

922
00:44:43,279 --> 00:44:44,699
They're just calling it chocolate liqueur.

923
00:44:45,089 --> 00:44:49,649
And they're all given little sample cups
so that they can taste the chocolate.

924
00:44:49,979 --> 00:44:52,169
And poor Mr.

925
00:44:52,169 --> 00:44:55,829
D, who is the equivalent of an
alcoholic in a distillery right now,

926
00:44:56,139 --> 00:44:59,789
um, kind of falls off the wagon.

927
00:44:59,949 --> 00:45:01,769
Both literally and figuratively.

928
00:45:03,069 --> 00:45:08,929
Um, because he gets his little
sample cup of chocolate and, um,

929
00:45:10,429 --> 00:45:13,589
Ellen: This was possibly the
least subtle kind of lead up

930
00:45:13,599 --> 00:45:15,769
to a medical thing that I've..

931
00:45:15,769 --> 00:45:16,499
that has been in this show.

932
00:45:16,589 --> 00:45:18,379
Bex: I think everybody saw this coming.

933
00:45:18,479 --> 00:45:20,433
Ellen: Because I'm looking
at the vat of chocolate and

934
00:45:20,433 --> 00:45:23,334
Alice: They've still got like a tray of
chocolate like, cups of chocolate too,

935
00:45:23,474 --> 00:45:26,084
like, you're the teacher, just turn
around and go, can I get another one?

936
00:45:26,234 --> 00:45:27,844
And they'll probably just give it to you.

937
00:45:27,944 --> 00:45:28,714
Ellen: Like the look on his face.

938
00:45:28,714 --> 00:45:29,954
Bex: I think Ellen pointed that out too.

939
00:45:29,955 --> 00:45:33,184
Ellen: Yeah, as he, as he
looked at the vat, I was like,

940
00:45:33,194 --> 00:45:34,534
he's going in the vat, like.

941
00:45:34,794 --> 00:45:35,224
Bex: Oh yeah.

942
00:45:35,384 --> 00:45:35,904
Yes.

943
00:45:36,154 --> 00:45:36,424
Ellen: That's.

944
00:45:37,694 --> 00:45:39,084
Bex: He is Augustus Gloop.

945
00:45:39,094 --> 00:45:39,114
Yeah.

946
00:45:40,129 --> 00:45:40,499
Yes.

947
00:45:41,609 --> 00:45:41,849
Sure

948
00:45:41,849 --> 00:45:42,179
Ellen: enough.

949
00:45:42,229 --> 00:45:43,929
Alice: Which is exactly what happens.

950
00:45:45,729 --> 00:45:49,779
Like, I'm actually surprised that we
didn't get, like, a song after this.

951
00:45:50,829 --> 00:45:54,479
Ellen: Yeah, some oompa
loompas, like, parading around.

952
00:45:55,549 --> 00:45:56,389
Bex: Oompa, loompa...

953
00:45:57,109 --> 00:46:00,129
Ellen: No, don't, we're not
doing the musical version now.

954
00:46:03,209 --> 00:46:07,839
Yeah, he climbs up on the little
gangway that's above the vat of

955
00:46:07,839 --> 00:46:13,629
chocolate and tries to get lean down
to scoop up some more into his little

956
00:46:13,629 --> 00:46:19,169
cup and he can't quite reach so he
shuffles forward reaches down again

957
00:46:20,939 --> 00:46:22,699
and eventually he over balances.

958
00:46:24,219 --> 00:46:24,989
Bex: Of course he does.

959
00:46:25,909 --> 00:46:27,059
Alice: Never saw that coming.

960
00:46:27,539 --> 00:46:33,439
Ellen: The 9-1-1 call is like, my
colleague is drowning in dark chocolate.

961
00:46:34,614 --> 00:46:38,414
And whoever's on the other end of the line
is like, Oh no, it's one of these again.

962
00:46:38,464 --> 00:46:40,044
Better send the 118.

963
00:46:42,674 --> 00:46:44,964
Bex: The dispatcher says
what he's a factory worker.

964
00:46:45,014 --> 00:46:47,184
And that could have worked.

965
00:46:47,214 --> 00:46:51,664
They could have done the, if they
really desperately needed to have,

966
00:46:51,704 --> 00:46:53,504
oh, let's drown a guy in chocolate.

967
00:46:53,694 --> 00:46:55,744
Why didn't they have
it as a factory worker?

968
00:46:56,769 --> 00:47:01,749
Why did they have to make this fat phobic
storyline of the teacher falling in

969
00:47:03,059 --> 00:47:04,589
Ellen: Because they thought it was funny.

970
00:47:06,129 --> 00:47:08,409
Bex: Well, I wanna smack
somebody upside the head.

971
00:47:08,589 --> 00:47:08,649
Yeah.

972
00:47:09,489 --> 00:47:10,719
'cause it's not funny.

973
00:47:12,559 --> 00:47:14,869
But yes, the one 18 get dispatched.

974
00:47:15,229 --> 00:47:19,519
Um, it's really interesting 'cause they
bring a ladder in with them and they,

975
00:47:19,519 --> 00:47:27,659
they set a ladder up across the vat so
that Buck and Eddie can like balance on

976
00:47:27,659 --> 00:47:30,029
the ladder and try and pull this guy out.

977
00:47:30,769 --> 00:47:31,009
Um.

978
00:47:31,989 --> 00:47:37,399
I don't know why they didn't just grab a
rescue harness and use that, other than

979
00:47:37,399 --> 00:47:40,979
Ellen: there's a lot of things about
this that I have questions about,

980
00:47:40,979 --> 00:47:44,849
because surely if they've got a great
big vat like that just sitting there,

981
00:47:45,189 --> 00:47:50,914
wouldn't they have some kind of protocol
for, you know, for workplace health

982
00:47:50,914 --> 00:47:55,334
and safety you need to have plans
in place for if stuff goes wrong.

983
00:47:55,744 --> 00:47:56,942
You have like a list of risks, right?

984
00:47:56,942 --> 00:47:58,854
Alice: Yeah, like somebody could
drain it or something, like

985
00:47:58,864 --> 00:48:01,824
Bex: Yeah, can't they just open
the valve and drain it out?

986
00:48:01,884 --> 00:48:02,874
The chocolate's Because
it's not like they can

987
00:48:02,874 --> 00:48:03,954
Ellen: Yeah, they can't use it anymore.

988
00:48:03,954 --> 00:48:05,232
Alice: Or start scooping
it out of buckets.

989
00:48:05,232 --> 00:48:05,920
Ellen: It's contaminated.

990
00:48:05,920 --> 00:48:06,952
Bex: Yeah, like Yes.

991
00:48:06,952 --> 00:48:09,164
There's no point of just
leaving it in there.

992
00:48:10,804 --> 00:48:12,584
Ellen: There are a lot of other
things they could have done,

993
00:48:13,354 --> 00:48:15,014
apart from what they actually did.

994
00:48:15,474 --> 00:48:18,604
But anyway, they get up there on the
ladder and they try to pull him out.

995
00:48:20,329 --> 00:48:24,919
They, and like, Buck and Eddie are trying
to pull him out as hard as they can, and

996
00:48:24,919 --> 00:48:30,679
they can't get him out of there, because
he keeps getting sucked back down again.

997
00:48:32,279 --> 00:48:36,129
Bex: Apparently it's like, it's quicksand,
it's like the physics of quicksand.

998
00:48:36,419 --> 00:48:43,949
Every time they pull him up, a low
pressure pocket is created in the

999
00:48:43,949 --> 00:48:48,159
chocolate, and then the pocket pulls Mr.

1000
00:48:48,159 --> 00:48:49,089
D back down.

1001
00:48:51,119 --> 00:48:51,349
Ellen: Yeah.

1002
00:48:51,419 --> 00:48:54,149
Bex: I'm not entirely sure if
that is correct, but Hen sounds

1003
00:48:54,149 --> 00:48:55,579
very certain when she says it.

1004
00:48:55,689 --> 00:48:56,349
Alice: I believe Hen.

1005
00:48:56,954 --> 00:48:58,664
Bex: We'll, we'll go with what Hen says.

1006
00:48:59,414 --> 00:49:01,534
Um, Chim steps up.

1007
00:49:02,354 --> 00:49:06,584
He,  he orders Hen to get Mr.

1008
00:49:06,584 --> 00:49:07,854
D some oxygen.

1009
00:49:08,264 --> 00:49:11,354
Take an O2 tank, rip off the
mask, create an air tube.

1010
00:49:12,824 --> 00:49:17,869
So that if he goes under, it will
buy them some time for him to think.

1011
00:49:19,159 --> 00:49:24,299
So she does as instructed, she gets the
tank, when, um, Buck and Eddie pull Mr.

1012
00:49:24,299 --> 00:49:27,549
D up a little bit farther, she feeds
the tube into his mouth, tells him

1013
00:49:27,549 --> 00:49:30,859
to bite down on it so that if he
goes under it'll stay in his mouth.

1014
00:49:31,339 --> 00:49:36,629
And then she turns to ask what her
next orders are, and Chim is not there.

1015
00:49:38,689 --> 00:49:41,789
And Eddie's looking around going,
did our captain just run away?

1016
00:49:43,209 --> 00:49:46,749
And one of the kids, because the
teacher is drowning in chocolate,

1017
00:49:46,749 --> 00:49:49,129
so of course the kids are all
just standing around watching.

1018
00:49:49,139 --> 00:49:50,769
Yeah, no one bothered to move them.

1019
00:49:52,179 --> 00:49:52,399
No.

1020
00:49:53,009 --> 00:49:56,259
Um, one of the kids says,
oh, I think he went that way.

1021
00:49:57,289 --> 00:50:00,109
Ellen: It's not traumatic at all to
watch your teacher drowning in chocolate.

1022
00:50:01,119 --> 00:50:01,179
Bex: No.

1023
00:50:02,829 --> 00:50:07,589
Ellen: Um, but, like, he goes
under the chocolate again and

1024
00:50:07,649 --> 00:50:12,209
apparently the breathing tube is
doing its job, so okay, whatever.

1025
00:50:12,279 --> 00:50:19,079
But Chim comes back and he's got, like,
a hose that's coming from somewhere.

1026
00:50:19,839 --> 00:50:23,289
Bex: He's got like, there's a giant,
another giant vat that he's sort of,

1027
00:50:23,299 --> 00:50:30,209
that's hanging from a rod above him and
he's sort of pulling it along this little

1028
00:50:31,999 --> 00:50:34,449
trolley path thing, words are failing me.

1029
00:50:34,479 --> 00:50:36,639
Um, if you've seen the episodes,
you know what I'm talking about.

1030
00:50:36,819 --> 00:50:39,809
So he pulls it closer to this
vat, it has a hose connected

1031
00:50:39,809 --> 00:50:41,299
to it with a trigger nozzle

1032
00:50:42,559 --> 00:50:45,989
Ellen: and then he starts pouring
this white stuff in there, like

1033
00:50:45,989 --> 00:50:50,859
some stuff in and Hen's like,
"What the hell are you doing?"

1034
00:50:50,859 --> 00:50:52,439
And he says, "It's cocoa butter.

1035
00:50:52,959 --> 00:50:58,709
And it tempers the chocolate and
decreases the viscosity," and he

1036
00:50:58,709 --> 00:51:00,399
just tells him to start stirring.

1037
00:51:02,089 --> 00:51:03,059
And I don't,

1038
00:51:03,879 --> 00:51:04,069
Alice: I don't know.

1039
00:51:04,259 --> 00:51:09,179
where this paddle came from, but Hens
just got a paddle and started stirring.

1040
00:51:10,599 --> 00:51:15,439
Um, but yeah, so they, like, thin
out the chocolate, I guess, and

1041
00:51:16,459 --> 00:51:18,189
they managed to pull him free.

1042
00:51:19,619 --> 00:51:23,229
Bex: Wouldn't the people actually working
in the chocolate factory know this?

1043
00:51:24,329 --> 00:51:26,429
Since they're the ones
that make the chocolate.

1044
00:51:27,489 --> 00:51:28,389
Alice: You would think, right?

1045
00:51:29,589 --> 00:51:30,499
Ellen: Who knows?

1046
00:51:30,549 --> 00:51:38,849
Um, and also, like, after they get
him out of there, and, you know, Eddie

1047
00:51:38,849 --> 00:51:41,539
and Buck are like, oh, that was, you
know, quick thinking, whatever they

1048
00:51:41,539 --> 00:51:47,589
give him, props for it, and Hen just
says, "You called Bobby, didn't you?"

1049
00:51:48,809 --> 00:51:51,389
And I'm like, how did you
have time to call Bobby?

1050
00:51:51,529 --> 00:51:53,089
Like you were gone for like 10 seconds.

1051
00:51:53,090 --> 00:51:56,309
Alice: Hey Bobby, you know the
guy who got trapped in trouble?

1052
00:51:56,499 --> 00:51:57,489
What do I do?

1053
00:51:57,489 --> 00:52:00,485
Uh, use Cocoa Butter?

1054
00:52:00,485 --> 00:52:01,169
Okay, cool.

1055
00:52:01,169 --> 00:52:01,852
Thanks, bye.

1056
00:52:01,852 --> 00:52:03,219
Ellen: How does he know?

1057
00:52:03,219 --> 00:52:03,849
I don't know.

1058
00:52:04,109 --> 00:52:05,909
It was just, the timing was weird.

1059
00:52:06,589 --> 00:52:09,109
Bex: Time is wibbly wobbly
in this episode again.

1060
00:52:09,379 --> 00:52:09,719
Yep.

1061
00:52:10,619 --> 00:52:10,879
Ellen: Anyway.

1062
00:52:10,879 --> 00:52:11,079
Yeah.

1063
00:52:11,119 --> 00:52:15,279
They did take, well, I felt sad
that they sort of took away Chim's

1064
00:52:15,319 --> 00:52:16,799
competency here a little bit.

1065
00:52:16,799 --> 00:52:20,859
Like he, he could have been, this could
have been his like, saving grace for

1066
00:52:21,289 --> 00:52:25,179
becoming the captain that he should
be or whatever that he wanted to be.

1067
00:52:25,879 --> 00:52:28,169
But instead, no, he just
had to call Bobby for help.

1068
00:52:29,599 --> 00:52:29,909
Yeah.

1069
00:52:30,759 --> 00:52:31,449
Bex: I know, poor Chim.

1070
00:52:31,639 --> 00:52:36,574
It's also a little, not only are
they undermining interim captain Han,

1071
00:52:36,984 --> 00:52:39,184
but it's Hen who's undermining him.

1072
00:52:39,334 --> 00:52:41,184
Ellen: Yeah, and she's
looking at him like,

1073
00:52:41,184 --> 00:52:45,974
Bex: she's like, she immediately,
immediately knows that he couldn't do it.

1074
00:52:47,024 --> 00:52:49,314
That that was not him,
that he had to get help.

1075
00:52:49,874 --> 00:52:52,204
And like, you didn't have
any ideas either, Hen.

1076
00:52:53,184 --> 00:52:56,924
So for all of her talk later about,
you know, her knowing that Chim

1077
00:52:56,964 --> 00:52:59,704
could do it, she was doubting him.

1078
00:52:59,914 --> 00:53:00,184
Ellen: Yeah.

1079
00:53:01,594 --> 00:53:01,954
All right.

1080
00:53:01,974 --> 00:53:02,664
So next.

1081
00:53:04,064 --> 00:53:05,784
section is.

1082
00:53:06,404 --> 00:53:08,434
Bex: My notes are literally
just like, blah, blah, blah.

1083
00:53:08,824 --> 00:53:10,494
Cause this is so stupid.

1084
00:53:11,044 --> 00:53:13,664
Ellen: This is like the next, so
we've, we've had parts one and two.

1085
00:53:13,664 --> 00:53:18,834
Now this is like section three, which
has a completely different tone to the

1086
00:53:18,834 --> 00:53:20,864
previous sections that we've already had.

1087
00:53:21,154 --> 00:53:24,434
Bex: And I don't understand why
they needed this section at all.

1088
00:53:24,504 --> 00:53:25,804
Ellen: No, it doesn't relate to,

1089
00:53:27,004 --> 00:53:27,584
Bex: it doesn't relate to

1090
00:53:27,584 --> 00:53:28,064
Ellen: anything.

1091
00:53:28,154 --> 00:53:29,154
Bex: It doesn't relate to anything.

1092
00:53:29,164 --> 00:53:30,934
It just, it comes out of left field.

1093
00:53:31,334 --> 00:53:33,594
And then it comes straight back in again.

1094
00:53:34,044 --> 00:53:34,844
Speak of it again,

1095
00:53:34,954 --> 00:53:35,364
Ellen: kind of thing.

1096
00:53:35,754 --> 00:53:36,244
Bex: Yes.

1097
00:53:36,704 --> 00:53:38,714
Ellen: So, let's just go quickly
through it so we can get rid

1098
00:53:38,714 --> 00:53:39,194
of it, because it's useless.

1099
00:53:39,194 --> 00:53:44,654
Bex: Long story short, Maddie takes a
call from a woman who is concerned that

1100
00:53:44,664 --> 00:53:46,914
her brother is going to unalive himself.

1101
00:53:47,054 --> 00:53:53,564
He is apparently bipolar, um, there's
something about his meds, but basically

1102
00:53:53,564 --> 00:53:56,854
he called her and said goodbye,
and he's, she is really concerned.

1103
00:53:58,614 --> 00:54:03,104
So Maddie dispatches police, but she stays
on the phone with the woman, Nicole, as

1104
00:54:03,114 --> 00:54:05,114
she is driving to her brother's house.

1105
00:54:05,514 --> 00:54:11,744
And just as Nicole gets to her house
and sees her brother and sees all

1106
00:54:11,744 --> 00:54:13,434
the police, she hangs up the phone.

1107
00:54:15,029 --> 00:54:18,529
And so Maddie, who has been on this
call with her as she's been driving

1108
00:54:18,529 --> 00:54:21,069
and she's been talking to Nicole and
finding out a little bit about her,

1109
00:54:21,069 --> 00:54:24,539
is suddenly left in the lurch because
she does not know how the call ends.

1110
00:54:25,609 --> 00:54:29,599
Which I would say would be
Maddie's every single call that

1111
00:54:29,599 --> 00:54:31,249
she takes every single day.

1112
00:54:32,549 --> 00:54:37,464
Because that was, that's the, the
nature of A 9-1-1 dispatcher, and we

1113
00:54:37,464 --> 00:54:40,744
know that because Abby was complaining
about the same thing in Season 1.

1114
00:54:40,804 --> 00:54:42,314
Alice: Yeah, that's exactly
what I was gonna say.

1115
00:54:42,324 --> 00:54:47,845
Like, it's sort of a, it's like they
wanted to revisit that, but with Maddie.

1116
00:54:47,845 --> 00:54:51,524
Bex: But differently, because Abby,
like Abby was saying, I don't get to

1117
00:54:51,524 --> 00:54:55,454
see what happens next, so they literally
threw her into an emergency with Buck.

1118
00:54:56,354 --> 00:54:59,164
But they just, they take a
different route with Maddie.

1119
00:54:59,604 --> 00:55:01,854
But it's just why, why now?

1120
00:55:01,894 --> 00:55:03,014
Why this call?

1121
00:55:03,564 --> 00:55:04,034
Why?

1122
00:55:04,134 --> 00:55:04,344
Ellen: Yeah.

1123
00:55:04,344 --> 00:55:05,224
Why this episode?

1124
00:55:05,224 --> 00:55:05,784
This doesn't

1125
00:55:06,064 --> 00:55:06,434
Bex: Why?

1126
00:55:06,484 --> 00:55:06,714
Yeah.

1127
00:55:06,714 --> 00:55:08,504
Ellen: It's not related to anything else.

1128
00:55:09,634 --> 00:55:13,674
And while they do do a good, like,
I, I felt the tension was really

1129
00:55:13,674 --> 00:55:15,494
good in, in this, like, good.

1130
00:55:15,494 --> 00:55:17,054
It was, it was high, I guess.

1131
00:55:17,554 --> 00:55:19,904
Like, we, we were worried
about this person too.

1132
00:55:20,334 --> 00:55:24,934
Alice: I think they just wanted to,
like, mention that, cause, like, she

1133
00:55:24,934 --> 00:55:28,974
took the job in dispatch because she
couldn't be a nurse because she was

1134
00:55:28,974 --> 00:55:30,104
worried that Doug would find her.

1135
00:55:30,594 --> 00:55:34,789
And now So she took a job
behind, like, behind the phone

1136
00:55:34,789 --> 00:55:35,739
so that no one could see her.

1137
00:55:35,740 --> 00:55:44,179
And now, like, because Doug's
gone, she's like, well, why aren't

1138
00:55:44,179 --> 00:55:46,589
I back on the front, like, you
know, back on the front line?

1139
00:55:48,079 --> 00:55:52,599
Ellen: Okay, so maybe it's just like they
needed to shoe in, shoehorn in a little

1140
00:55:52,599 --> 00:55:55,499
bit of her character development, but they
didn't know where to put it, so they just

1141
00:55:55,499 --> 00:55:56,989
shoved it into the middle of this episode.

1142
00:55:56,989 --> 00:55:57,179
And that's it.

1143
00:55:57,609 --> 00:56:02,689
Bex: And I think that particular
plotline would be an interesting one.

1144
00:56:03,189 --> 00:56:09,759
Because yes, she, the 9-1-1 call was just
Buck's way of getting her to, something

1145
00:56:09,759 --> 00:56:12,399
to do while she was in Los Angeles.

1146
00:56:12,749 --> 00:56:18,249
And it would be interesting to
see her explore going back and

1147
00:56:18,259 --> 00:56:22,559
being a nurse or doing something
else over several episodes.

1148
00:56:22,974 --> 00:56:28,034
Like, why couldn't they have let Maddie
fully explore something outside of 9-1-1,

1149
00:56:28,394 --> 00:56:32,184
and then having her come back and go,
no, actually, this is where I belong.

1150
00:56:32,374 --> 00:56:35,674
But they do all of that within
like 10 minutes in one episode.

1151
00:56:36,104 --> 00:56:39,484
And so it just doesn't have the emotional
resonance that I think it really deserved.

1152
00:56:39,544 --> 00:56:45,434
Alice: I mean, to me, I do, really
like the last scene of Maddie, I guess.

1153
00:56:46,194 --> 00:56:48,954
In this episode, because they only do
it like they have this and then they

1154
00:56:48,954 --> 00:56:50,924
have the cafe scene and that's it.

1155
00:56:50,924 --> 00:56:53,684
And like, I do like it.

1156
00:56:53,694 --> 00:56:55,264
I get goosebumps every time I watch it.

1157
00:56:55,804 --> 00:57:00,384
Bex: It also feels like, so not only
is it a rehash of Abby from season one,

1158
00:57:00,384 --> 00:57:07,484
but it's also kind of the rehash of,
um, Maddie's conversation with Gloria,

1159
00:57:07,844 --> 00:57:14,834
because in that episode, Maddie was
saying that as a nurse, she was there.

1160
00:57:16,654 --> 00:57:19,824
Sort of from the beginning
to the middle and the end.

1161
00:57:20,314 --> 00:57:23,794
And as a 9-1-1 dispatcher,
she's missing parts of it.

1162
00:57:23,794 --> 00:57:26,914
And that's what prompts Gloria to
tell her to go on the ride along

1163
00:57:26,914 --> 00:57:31,364
so that she can see what happens
in the parts that she's missed.

1164
00:57:31,494 --> 00:57:32,054
Oh yeah.

1165
00:57:32,504 --> 00:57:32,744
So,

1166
00:57:34,984 --> 00:57:36,811
I don't know.

1167
00:57:36,811 --> 00:57:39,284
It's Like I said, I don't
understand why we're getting

1168
00:57:39,294 --> 00:57:41,374
this storyline in this episode.

1169
00:57:41,534 --> 00:57:42,544
Yeah, in this episode.

1170
00:57:42,814 --> 00:57:45,694
It's in this part of Maddie's storyline.

1171
00:57:48,484 --> 00:57:52,544
It's obviously, like I said, the sheet of
paper got passed around the writer's room

1172
00:57:52,544 --> 00:57:55,934
and someone wrote this on and then folded
it over and passed it on and so they've

1173
00:57:55,934 --> 00:57:59,624
just included it in the episode even
though I don't feel like it thematically

1174
00:58:00,004 --> 00:58:02,144
or even logically fits in this episode.

1175
00:58:02,564 --> 00:58:02,904
Ellen: Yep.

1176
00:58:03,934 --> 00:58:05,494
It's got nothing to do
with wishing anything.

1177
00:58:06,714 --> 00:58:06,914
Bex: Yeah!

1178
00:58:07,174 --> 00:58:07,784
Exactly!

1179
00:58:08,484 --> 00:58:08,774
Right?

1180
00:58:08,774 --> 00:58:11,899
So if this episode was the be
careful what you wish for, what

1181
00:58:11,899 --> 00:58:13,119
is Maddie wishing for here?

1182
00:58:13,159 --> 00:58:15,219
Alice: I guess she's
wishing to see the end?

1183
00:58:16,789 --> 00:58:18,729
Bex: But then why is it "be
careful what you wish for?"

1184
00:58:18,729 --> 00:58:21,989
Because it's not, it's not be
careful what you wish for because

1185
00:58:21,989 --> 00:58:23,419
you might get it and it's all great.

1186
00:58:23,419 --> 00:58:25,329
It's be careful what you wish
for because you're going to get

1187
00:58:25,329 --> 00:58:26,349
it and it's going to be shit.

1188
00:58:27,159 --> 00:58:27,589
Ellen: Yeah.

1189
00:58:27,959 --> 00:58:29,219
Bex: It's going to ruin your life.

1190
00:58:29,279 --> 00:58:33,049
And I don't think this, don't think any,
I don't think Maddie's life is ruined.

1191
00:58:33,379 --> 00:58:33,619
No.

1192
00:58:33,619 --> 00:58:34,089
In this.

1193
00:58:36,289 --> 00:58:39,069
Someone else's life is going to be
ruined though, because, um, we're

1194
00:58:39,069 --> 00:58:44,309
going to cut to, Ned and I don't even
think we, why do they never name the

1195
00:58:44,309 --> 00:58:46,369
women in this episode on this show?

1196
00:58:47,129 --> 00:58:48,179
Ellen: Do they not?

1197
00:58:49,189 --> 00:58:54,579
Bex: They very rarely named the
women, but we have Ned and his

1198
00:58:54,819 --> 00:58:57,179
wife, it is their 25th anniversary.

1199
00:58:57,619 --> 00:59:00,269
Um, and they seem very much in love.

1200
00:59:01,844 --> 00:59:05,294
They're going to go out for dinner,
which the, the wife seems a little bit

1201
00:59:05,294 --> 00:59:09,004
disappointed about because apparently they
always go to Roberto's and maybe she was

1202
00:59:09,004 --> 00:59:11,534
hoping for something different this year.

1203
00:59:15,304 --> 00:59:19,084
There is a little bit of, we're going
to shoehorn the theme in because the

1204
00:59:19,094 --> 00:59:23,694
husband asks her, "Oh, um, were you
wishing that we went somewhere different?"

1205
00:59:23,694 --> 00:59:25,404
And she goes, "Wishes are for suckers."

1206
00:59:26,684 --> 00:59:31,554
So somebody remembered at some point
that there was a theme, perhaps, maybe.

1207
00:59:33,034 --> 00:59:36,094
Ellen: Maybe whoever wrote this episode
or, you know, had a part in writing this

1208
00:59:36,094 --> 00:59:40,029
episode was having a really bad day and
they were just like, You should never

1209
00:59:40,029 --> 00:59:44,969
wish for anything, it never turns out,
and that just turned into the theme.

1210
00:59:44,969 --> 00:59:48,319
Alice: They really wished to write for
9-1-1, and then they got this episode,

1211
00:59:48,319 --> 00:59:49,239
and they're like, fuck this shit.

1212
00:59:49,239 --> 00:59:49,959
Bex: Like, ah, shit.

1213
00:59:51,789 --> 00:59:52,019
Yeah.

1214
00:59:53,179 --> 00:59:57,899
Uh, so, Ned goes to get the keys,
because while they've been having

1215
00:59:57,899 --> 00:59:59,389
this conversation, the doorbell rang.

1216
01:00:00,229 --> 01:00:05,109
Ned goes to get his keys, the wife
goes to open the door, uh, as she

1217
01:00:05,109 --> 01:00:09,139
opens the door a car immediately
just screeches down the street.

1218
01:00:09,889 --> 01:00:11,049
Not at all suspicious.

1219
01:00:12,119 --> 01:00:19,119
And there is a box on the porch, uh, plain
box, there's really nothing on there to

1220
01:00:19,119 --> 01:00:20,789
indicate what it is and where it's from.

1221
01:00:21,029 --> 01:00:27,909
It has, uh, tape sealing it with fragile
and there is a little, um, label down

1222
01:00:27,909 --> 01:00:30,649
the bottom saying "a gift for you".

1223
01:00:31,579 --> 01:00:35,889
And so she automatically assumes
that it's from Ned, her husband.

1224
01:00:36,449 --> 01:00:40,019
Ellen: And she opens it
right there on the steps.

1225
01:00:40,219 --> 01:00:41,069
Bex: She says, I...

1226
01:00:41,149 --> 01:00:42,439
no, she doesn't get to open it.

1227
01:00:42,439 --> 01:00:44,149
She's like, "Oh, I guess
you can still surprise me."

1228
01:00:44,149 --> 01:00:47,449
And she decides to shake the box,
even though it says fragile on it.

1229
01:00:48,039 --> 01:00:49,529
And it's like, shake, shake, shake, boom.

1230
01:00:50,609 --> 01:00:52,079
and it explodes in her hands.

1231
01:00:53,149 --> 01:00:56,689
So here, how many, how many minutes
into the episode are we and we

1232
01:00:56,689 --> 01:00:59,629
finally get the mail bomb that they
were pushing so hard in the promo?

1233
01:01:00,249 --> 01:01:00,629
Yeah.

1234
01:01:01,479 --> 01:01:05,739
Ellen: Oh, the 118, like, Athena is
already there again when the 118 pull up.

1235
01:01:07,739 --> 01:01:11,159
She's got some kind of teleportation
going on in this episode.

1236
01:01:11,979 --> 01:01:15,909
"There was a mail bomb, um, the wife's
in rough shape, but she's in one piece."

1237
01:01:17,029 --> 01:01:21,254
The bomb squad's still a couple of
minutes out, but Immediately they

1238
01:01:21,264 --> 01:01:22,034
Bex: You guys can go

1239
01:01:22,034 --> 01:01:24,114
Ellen: Yeah, immediately
they move in anyway.

1240
01:01:25,284 --> 01:01:27,544
Bex: Bomb squads a few minutes
out, but hey, you guys go

1241
01:01:27,544 --> 01:01:28,974
on up, I'm sure it's fine.

1242
01:01:29,024 --> 01:01:31,064
Alice: Yeah, I'm sure there's
no other bombs, it should be

1243
01:01:31,094 --> 01:01:31,194
Ellen: fine.

1244
01:01:31,194 --> 01:01:33,854
The bomb's already gone off,
what could be the there's no risk

1245
01:01:33,854 --> 01:01:35,454
now, the bomb's already gone.

1246
01:01:36,904 --> 01:01:37,214
Um

1247
01:01:37,814 --> 01:01:38,654
Bex: Oh my god.

1248
01:01:39,854 --> 01:01:42,894
Alice: Athena's like, fuck em,
Bobby's not working, off you go kids.

1249
01:01:43,574 --> 01:01:45,284
They keep interrupting
his wedding planning.

1250
01:01:45,484 --> 01:01:46,834
Get the fuck on that porch.

1251
01:01:48,669 --> 01:01:55,149
Bex: But interestingly, we get another,
um, another scene of Chim forgetting

1252
01:01:55,159 --> 01:02:00,059
that he's in charge and just immediately
going in to do his job and forgetting

1253
01:02:00,069 --> 01:02:03,959
that he should actually be delegating
all of this to the other members so that

1254
01:02:03,959 --> 01:02:06,719
he can, like, step back and take charge.

1255
01:02:06,949 --> 01:02:07,319
Ellen: Yeah.

1256
01:02:07,319 --> 01:02:12,329
Bex: And Hen calls him on that.

1257
01:02:13,344 --> 01:02:16,384
It says that there is, you know, there
is protocol that he needs to be following

1258
01:02:16,384 --> 01:02:17,904
and he's like, fuck the protocol.

1259
01:02:17,934 --> 01:02:20,164
I am the most experienced paramedic.

1260
01:02:20,374 --> 01:02:21,434
I am doing this.

1261
01:02:22,824 --> 01:02:26,554
Um, because apparently the
woman, uh, he's diagnosed her

1262
01:02:26,554 --> 01:02:28,834
with a bilateral pneumothorax.

1263
01:02:30,224 --> 01:02:33,814
Because apparently once you are captain
of the 118, it increases your ability

1264
01:02:33,814 --> 01:02:36,004
to look at somebody and diagnose them.

1265
01:02:36,694 --> 01:02:36,934
Alice: Yeah.

1266
01:02:36,934 --> 01:02:42,914
It's like a level up, um, or it's,
it's part of the, Like, the cap hat.

1267
01:02:43,184 --> 01:02:48,114
When you put it on, you get, you
unlock the ability to diagnose

1268
01:02:48,234 --> 01:02:49,724
someone just by looking at them.

1269
01:02:51,324 --> 01:02:54,634
Ellen: They need to release the
pressure, or she'll suffocate.

1270
01:02:55,164 --> 01:02:57,654
So, no time to get to a hospital.

1271
01:02:57,654 --> 01:03:00,364
Bex: It's basically, it's
collapsed lungs, right?

1272
01:03:00,374 --> 01:03:02,284
She's got, both lungs are collapsed.

1273
01:03:02,284 --> 01:03:04,634
That's what a pneumothorax is?

1274
01:03:06,554 --> 01:03:07,484
Hang on, let me Google.

1275
01:03:08,224 --> 01:03:10,484
I was about to do the same thing!

1276
01:03:11,464 --> 01:03:11,894
Uh,

1277
01:03:12,324 --> 01:03:15,639
Alice: Air, yeah, air's like in
both lungs causing them to collapse.

1278
01:03:17,459 --> 01:03:23,339
Bex: So they need to create a,
an exit path for the air so that

1279
01:03:23,359 --> 01:03:28,959
the lungs can actually expand
and contract in her chest cavity.

1280
01:03:29,029 --> 01:03:31,209
Alice: Chim's like cutting away
her clothes and getting ready to do

1281
01:03:31,209 --> 01:03:34,189
it and Eddie's just standing there
like, "I did like heaps of these

1282
01:03:34,189 --> 01:03:35,809
in combat, just like let me do it."

1283
01:03:36,459 --> 01:03:40,799
Bex: Which is, isn't that
exactly, or similar to like the

1284
01:03:40,849 --> 01:03:43,494
very first scene that Eddie has?

1285
01:03:43,784 --> 01:03:47,934
Ellen: Yeah, where Buck is trying to
do it, and he's like, I can do this.

1286
01:03:47,934 --> 01:03:51,294
Bex: No, no, I've done this in
combat situations, let me do it.

1287
01:03:51,314 --> 01:03:53,794
Alice: That's why Bobby wanted
him, because he's done a whole

1288
01:03:53,794 --> 01:03:57,504
bunch of like random field things
that aren't in medical books.

1289
01:03:58,054 --> 01:04:02,664
Bex: Yes, but no, Chim,
Chim's gonna do this.

1290
01:04:04,184 --> 01:04:07,424
Eddie gets put on babysitting duties
because he and Buck have to haul

1291
01:04:07,604 --> 01:04:14,139
the husband away, um, while Chim and
Hen pretty much operate on his wife

1292
01:04:14,239 --> 01:04:18,509
on the porch as the bomb squad is
filing into the house around them.

1293
01:04:19,179 --> 01:04:19,729
Ellen: Oh my god.

1294
01:04:19,739 --> 01:04:23,699
Alice: I do like though that like Buck
and Eddie like grab him and move him

1295
01:04:23,719 --> 01:04:26,639
and then immediately just like come back
and it's like where did they put him?

1296
01:04:28,789 --> 01:04:30,919
Bex: I'm gonna say they
handed him off to LAPD.

1297
01:04:31,379 --> 01:04:33,729
Ellen: Well they just took him away
from the house and went okay you

1298
01:04:33,729 --> 01:04:36,669
stay here we're just gonna go back.

1299
01:04:36,699 --> 01:04:37,219
Alice: Stay.

1300
01:04:37,574 --> 01:04:38,374
Stay.

1301
01:04:38,634 --> 01:04:38,824
Stay.

1302
01:04:39,684 --> 01:04:40,254
Stay.

1303
01:04:40,314 --> 01:04:40,474
Stay.

1304
01:04:40,684 --> 01:04:41,254
Stay.

1305
01:04:41,404 --> 01:04:41,744
Okay.

1306
01:04:41,864 --> 01:04:42,144
Okay.

1307
01:04:42,184 --> 01:04:42,694
Stay.

1308
01:04:43,144 --> 01:04:43,394
Okay.

1309
01:04:43,394 --> 01:04:43,704
We're good.

1310
01:04:45,274 --> 01:04:51,524
Bex: I mean, to sum it up, the,
the incisions work, uh, the, the

1311
01:04:51,524 --> 01:04:55,004
woman starts screaming, which I
guess means that she can breathe.

1312
01:04:56,104 --> 01:04:57,617
Ellen: Yeah, it doesn't look comfortable.

1313
01:04:57,617 --> 01:04:58,065
God.

1314
01:04:58,065 --> 01:04:58,513
Bex: No.

1315
01:04:58,513 --> 01:05:05,749
So, um, they get her on the gurney and
into the ambulance, her, um, her husband

1316
01:05:05,749 --> 01:05:11,079
goes with her, and I do note that when
he was trying to get back to his wife

1317
01:05:11,079 --> 01:05:14,539
in Buck and Eddie are, pulling him
away, he was trying to tell his wife

1318
01:05:14,539 --> 01:05:18,439
that they actually weren't going to
Roberto's, they were gonna go to Fiji.

1319
01:05:18,439 --> 01:05:19,667
Alice: I know, I was like, oh!

1320
01:05:19,667 --> 01:05:21,305
Bex: So he was going to surprise her.

1321
01:05:21,305 --> 01:05:22,629
Ellen: Oh, I didn't hear that part.

1322
01:05:22,639 --> 01:05:24,854
Oh, that's sad.

1323
01:05:24,854 --> 01:05:26,329
Bex: Yeah.

1324
01:05:26,329 --> 01:05:31,524
So he gets into the ambulance with
her, and then, you know, In this, we,

1325
01:05:31,554 --> 01:05:39,754
I don't understand this shot or this
transition because he's in, the husband

1326
01:05:39,754 --> 01:05:46,174
is in the ambulance with his wife and
he's telling her that he loves her.

1327
01:05:46,574 --> 01:05:49,454
And as he's doing that,
the audio slows down.

1328
01:05:49,454 --> 01:05:50,734
It gets really echoey.

1329
01:05:50,944 --> 01:05:57,334
The ambulance door slams shut and we
see Eddie's reflection in the window.

1330
01:05:58,414 --> 01:05:58,934
Yeah, I think.

1331
01:06:00,159 --> 01:06:04,909
The audio from, the audio from the
husband saying that he loves starts to

1332
01:06:04,939 --> 01:06:08,899
overlap with the audio from the next
scene, which is a little bit later

1333
01:06:08,899 --> 01:06:14,689
where Eddie is at the station, um,
talking to Shannon on a FaceTime call.

1334
01:06:15,609 --> 01:06:20,909
Alice: I think they're trying to do
more foreshadowing, but it's in a way,

1335
01:06:20,909 --> 01:06:21,569
Bex: I don't

1336
01:06:21,569 --> 01:06:21,899
Ellen: know,

1337
01:06:21,899 --> 01:06:23,429
Bex: but it doesn't make sense.

1338
01:06:23,519 --> 01:06:28,179
Ellen: I thought originally it was like,
Eddie having like a epiphany about,

1339
01:06:29,414 --> 01:06:33,954
You know, loving Shannon, whatever,
but, but he does say on the, at the

1340
01:06:33,954 --> 01:06:38,474
end of the FaceTime call, he tells
Shannon that he says, I love you.

1341
01:06:38,624 --> 01:06:40,964
And she says it back and I'm
like, okay, well, they're clearly,

1342
01:06:40,964 --> 01:06:42,004
they can say that to each other.

1343
01:06:42,004 --> 01:06:44,474
So it's not that big a deal.

1344
01:06:44,494 --> 01:06:48,474
Like, I don't know.

1345
01:06:48,474 --> 01:06:49,754
It's a weird kind of, uh,

1346
01:06:50,524 --> 01:06:53,174
Bex: it's, it's, it's weird.

1347
01:06:53,609 --> 01:06:59,409
So Shannon is having lunch with Eddie's
abuela and with Christopher, but it's

1348
01:06:59,479 --> 01:07:05,169
not lunch because it must be close
enough to No, they say, it literally

1349
01:07:05,169 --> 01:07:10,069
said we're having lunch, but then Eddie
is kind of scolding Shannon because

1350
01:07:10,069 --> 01:07:13,359
they're having ice cream, and he's
saying, you know, good luck trying to get

1351
01:07:13,359 --> 01:07:15,989
Chris to sleep, like, later that night.

1352
01:07:16,399 --> 01:07:16,669
Yeah.

1353
01:07:16,709 --> 01:07:18,999
And The ice cream would have worn off.

1354
01:07:19,089 --> 01:07:22,079
Alice: Yeah, like, when else are you
supposed to give a child ice cream?

1355
01:07:22,079 --> 01:07:25,048
Like, do you give it to them for
breakfast so they'll sit down?

1356
01:07:25,048 --> 01:07:26,284
Like, I don't understand.

1357
01:07:26,284 --> 01:07:29,499
Bex: Yeah, it's got a, it's got a 12
hour half life, you know what I mean?

1358
01:07:31,089 --> 01:07:33,179
You've got to give it to them,
like, two days in advance.

1359
01:07:33,799 --> 01:07:36,359
Alice: Like, I mean, if we all learn
anything from that fanfic, you've

1360
01:07:36,359 --> 01:07:37,639
got to give it to them before dinner.

1361
01:07:37,819 --> 01:07:39,399
So that's what she's doing, it's fine.

1362
01:07:39,639 --> 01:07:43,339
Ellen: Yeah, so, at the end, you
know, Eddie says, I love you,

1363
01:07:43,339 --> 01:07:48,144
and Shannon says, I love you, and
then Buck like appears from above.

1364
01:07:48,154 --> 01:07:52,084
He just drops, because he's sitting
like next to the, one of the trucks.

1365
01:07:52,784 --> 01:07:55,264
And apparently Buck was doing
something on top of the truck.

1366
01:07:55,264 --> 01:07:55,934
And he just like,

1367
01:07:57,124 --> 01:07:58,444
Bex: he literally drops in.

1368
01:07:58,794 --> 01:07:59,154
Ellen: Yeah.

1369
01:07:59,674 --> 01:08:01,464
And he's like, "Ooh, when's the wedding?"

1370
01:08:02,334 --> 01:08:03,394
It's like, "um, what?

1371
01:08:04,014 --> 01:08:04,874
We're already married."

1372
01:08:05,279 --> 01:08:10,219
Bex: But the panic on Eddie's
face when he goes, "wait, we don't

1373
01:08:10,219 --> 01:08:11,489
have to get married again, do we?"

1374
01:08:11,649 --> 01:08:14,699
Alice: Once again, let's hope
that Chris got Shannon's brains.

1375
01:08:16,769 --> 01:08:20,909
Ellen: It was just a
weird, weird, weird thing.

1376
01:08:21,319 --> 01:08:21,959
Bex: It is.

1377
01:08:22,229 --> 01:08:26,269
It is very weird because Buck very
well knows that they're still married.

1378
01:08:26,269 --> 01:08:28,729
They've, they've had their
heart to heart about Shannon.

1379
01:08:29,209 --> 01:08:29,549
Ellen: Yeah.

1380
01:08:29,559 --> 01:08:30,794
Bex: Um, I don't know.

1381
01:08:31,384 --> 01:08:34,514
But he, he makes a joke that,
um, Eddie should talk to Bobby.

1382
01:08:34,534 --> 01:08:37,304
Maybe he can get him a discount,
since, you know, Bobby's

1383
01:08:37,304 --> 01:08:38,294
already planning a wedding.

1384
01:08:38,314 --> 01:08:42,244
He can plan Eddie and Shannon's vow
renewal or something at the same time.

1385
01:08:42,244 --> 01:08:46,324
But that whole scene was
weird, and I don't understand.

1386
01:08:46,944 --> 01:08:50,254
Uh, so, next we're going
to go back to Maddie.

1387
01:08:51,154 --> 01:08:55,679
Uh, who Basically, she's got a job
interview, so she can't do her next shift.

1388
01:08:55,779 --> 01:08:58,899
She's telling Sue, "I'm sorry, I said
that I would cover that shift, but I

1389
01:08:58,899 --> 01:09:00,329
can't because I've got a job interview.

1390
01:09:00,589 --> 01:09:02,459
I'm not even sure I'm supposed
to be telling you that, but

1391
01:09:02,459 --> 01:09:03,479
I am going to tell you that."

1392
01:09:04,689 --> 01:09:06,679
Alice: Yeah, Maddie sucks at secrets.

1393
01:09:07,949 --> 01:09:08,639
Ellen: Apparently.

1394
01:09:11,909 --> 01:09:17,969
But like, yeah, Sue says like, "Josh
told me that you had a talk," and

1395
01:09:19,674 --> 01:09:23,604
Maddie's, you know, trying to make her
excuses as to why she's thinking of

1396
01:09:23,604 --> 01:09:27,094
leaving, and Sue's like, I think you
underestimate your contribution here.

1397
01:09:28,054 --> 01:09:31,874
Bex: Yeah, she said that specifically,
she says that she spent years

1398
01:09:31,874 --> 01:09:35,704
not having a voice, and now that
she has her voice back, she feels

1399
01:09:35,704 --> 01:09:37,294
like what she says doesn't matter.

1400
01:09:39,314 --> 01:09:39,614
Ellen: Yeah.

1401
01:09:39,614 --> 01:09:41,764
Bex: Sue says, I think you
underestimate yourself.

1402
01:09:42,254 --> 01:09:45,504
Um, and Maddie goes like,
"I appreciate that, but.

1403
01:09:45,984 --> 01:09:48,814
Here at 9-1-1, I am just
the person who sends help.

1404
01:09:49,254 --> 01:09:52,034
I need to go back to being
the person who gives it."

1405
01:09:52,704 --> 01:09:52,924
Ellen: Yeah.

1406
01:09:53,134 --> 01:09:54,264
I'm off to be a firefighter.

1407
01:09:55,214 --> 01:09:55,554
See ya.

1408
01:09:59,284 --> 01:09:59,504
Right.

1409
01:09:59,534 --> 01:10:04,964
That was a very little scene, but we're
going back to, uh, Eddie and Shannon.

1410
01:10:05,564 --> 01:10:07,494
Bex: And it looks like it's date night.

1411
01:10:07,704 --> 01:10:10,344
They're at a fancy restaurant somewhere.

1412
01:10:11,214 --> 01:10:11,424
Ellen: Yeah.

1413
01:10:11,424 --> 01:10:12,374
It's very sweet.

1414
01:10:13,224 --> 01:10:13,854
It's very sweet.

1415
01:10:13,854 --> 01:10:14,954
And then it's kind of sad.

1416
01:10:15,394 --> 01:10:18,944
Bex: So it starts off with like
literally sweet because Eddie

1417
01:10:18,944 --> 01:10:20,734
gives Shannon a box of chocolates.

1418
01:10:21,554 --> 01:10:22,604
Do you think he bought them?

1419
01:10:23,519 --> 01:10:25,249
from the factory when they
were there on that tour.

1420
01:10:25,489 --> 01:10:27,559
Alice: Oh no, they absolutely
gave it to him for free and he

1421
01:10:27,559 --> 01:10:28,659
was just like, oh, fuck yeah.

1422
01:10:29,429 --> 01:10:30,169
Bex: They're wheeling Mr.

1423
01:10:30,169 --> 01:10:33,079
D out and the factory workers
are just handing them gift boxes

1424
01:10:33,079 --> 01:10:34,529
as they're walking out the door.

1425
01:10:34,529 --> 01:10:37,432
Alice: Yeah, they're like,
thanks so much for your help.

1426
01:10:37,432 --> 01:10:38,989
Like, here, have some chocolate.

1427
01:10:38,989 --> 01:10:40,029
Ellen: Here, have this chocolate.

1428
01:10:40,029 --> 01:10:41,959
We can't use it anymore
because a guy fell in.

1429
01:10:43,689 --> 01:10:46,419
Alice: It's like the weird seconds
as well and Eddie's just hoping

1430
01:10:46,419 --> 01:10:47,329
that Shannon doesn't notice.

1431
01:10:50,454 --> 01:10:53,014
She's like, why are they
all chocolate orange?

1432
01:10:53,014 --> 01:10:55,964
Like, it's supposed to be a variety pack.

1433
01:10:56,764 --> 01:11:01,274
Bex: She asks if it's a clump kind of
Forrest Gump reference, which sends

1434
01:11:01,304 --> 01:11:04,014
Eddie down this really weird metaphor.

1435
01:11:04,754 --> 01:11:08,054
Because apparently life is
not like a box of chocolates.

1436
01:11:08,064 --> 01:11:10,214
Life is like a vat of molten chocolate.

1437
01:11:10,224 --> 01:11:15,054
Sometimes you fall in and it drags you
down, but it's warm and it's sweet.

1438
01:11:15,314 --> 01:11:17,814
And Shannon's just like,
please stop talking.

1439
01:11:20,054 --> 01:11:23,554
Alice: Shannon's like, yeah, please,
Chris, get my brains, please, for

1440
01:11:23,554 --> 01:11:24,974
the love of God, get my brains.

1441
01:11:26,424 --> 01:11:27,544
Ellen: He's trying, bless him.

1442
01:11:29,144 --> 01:11:30,154
Bex: He's, he's trying.

1443
01:11:30,204 --> 01:11:30,534
Alice: Is he?

1444
01:11:31,404 --> 01:11:35,214
Ellen: He's, well, he says he's telling
her that he, he didn't realize how

1445
01:11:35,214 --> 01:11:37,274
much he missed her when she was gone.

1446
01:11:38,364 --> 01:11:43,424
And it's kind of obvious that
Shannon's just like, well, actually,

1447
01:11:44,974 --> 01:11:46,764
you know, she's not into this at all.

1448
01:11:48,744 --> 01:11:52,474
And he says that, he brings it back to
Christopher again, he's like, "We were

1449
01:11:52,494 --> 01:11:57,224
so young, we weren't ready, but we had
this amazing kid, and he's the greatest

1450
01:11:57,224 --> 01:11:59,404
thing in my life," and, you know.

1451
01:11:59,624 --> 01:12:02,114
Bex: I think he brought it back to
Christopher because he's trying to

1452
01:12:02,114 --> 01:12:06,694
convince himself, because he's gearing up
to go all in with Shannon again, because

1453
01:12:06,784 --> 01:12:08,134
they're about to have a second kid.

1454
01:12:08,594 --> 01:12:08,924
Alice: Yeah.

1455
01:12:08,944 --> 01:12:10,574
Once again, he's only in it.

1456
01:12:11,174 --> 01:12:11,804
For the kid.

1457
01:12:11,814 --> 01:12:12,314
Bex: For the kid.

1458
01:12:13,064 --> 01:12:13,404
Yeah.

1459
01:12:13,434 --> 01:12:17,459
So he's trying to convince himself and
convince Shannon that they need to go

1460
01:12:17,509 --> 01:12:21,699
back to being full on husband and wife
because there is now another child and

1461
01:12:21,939 --> 01:12:25,239
Eddie has been brought up to believe
that this is how you have children.

1462
01:12:25,659 --> 01:12:28,219
That you have to have a mother
and a father in a stable

1463
01:12:29,139 --> 01:12:31,149
some sort of relationship.

1464
01:12:31,999 --> 01:12:35,639
Ellen: Somehow I always forget,
I keep forgetting that she had

1465
01:12:35,639 --> 01:12:37,019
said before that she was pregnant.

1466
01:12:37,019 --> 01:12:40,639
I don't know whether it was overshadowed
by what comes next but I was like,

1467
01:12:41,319 --> 01:12:45,074
I got to this point and I was like,
yeah, he's just trying to he's just

1468
01:12:45,074 --> 01:12:48,254
realized that he, you know, still
wants to be a family, whatever.

1469
01:12:48,794 --> 01:12:50,404
And then it's like, Oh
yeah, the pregnancy.

1470
01:12:50,404 --> 01:12:50,824
Okay.

1471
01:12:50,874 --> 01:12:51,034
Yeah.

1472
01:12:51,594 --> 01:12:51,934
Right.

1473
01:12:51,944 --> 01:12:52,214
Yeah.

1474
01:12:53,064 --> 01:12:53,484
Bex: Yeah.

1475
01:12:55,024 --> 01:13:00,664
Um, and like, he literally, he says
to her, um, he wants, he was, he

1476
01:13:00,714 --> 01:13:06,254
was, he wished there's that slightly
demented warped version of the theme.

1477
01:13:06,254 --> 01:13:13,434
He wished for a sign and he got it
because you're pregnant and Shannon

1478
01:13:13,434 --> 01:13:14,954
just says, "Yeah, actually I'm not."

1479
01:13:14,954 --> 01:13:18,294
Ellen: And

1480
01:13:18,294 --> 01:13:23,479
Bex: I have to, the music producer
is, um, on point for this.

1481
01:13:23,479 --> 01:13:23,944
Ellen: Is at it again.

1482
01:13:25,644 --> 01:13:30,434
Bex: The song that's playing over
this scene is called "We Could Have".

1483
01:13:30,994 --> 01:13:34,784
At about this point in the
conversation, the chorus kicks in.

1484
01:13:34,794 --> 01:13:38,134
Um, And the chorus is just, we could
have done better, we could have

1485
01:13:38,154 --> 01:13:41,234
tried harder, we could have been
stronger, we could have gone further,

1486
01:13:41,234 --> 01:13:42,544
we could have been so much more.

1487
01:13:43,684 --> 01:13:46,594
It's like, oh my god, just pick
up that knife and twist it.

1488
01:13:47,224 --> 01:13:49,344
Just, just really jam
it in there and twist.

1489
01:13:51,394 --> 01:13:54,114
Ellen: I still had no idea what
was coming at this point, so, like.

1490
01:13:54,114 --> 01:13:57,704
Alice: Yeah, see, like, I had no idea
the first time I watched it what was

1491
01:13:57,704 --> 01:14:01,974
coming, and the second time, like,
I was literally sobbing from this

1492
01:14:01,974 --> 01:14:04,009
scene onwards until the episode ended.

1493
01:14:04,559 --> 01:14:06,389
was like, had been over
for like 10 minutes.

1494
01:14:06,959 --> 01:14:08,219
Like full on sobbing.

1495
01:14:08,759 --> 01:14:10,579
It was so much worse the second time.

1496
01:14:12,069 --> 01:14:15,959
Ellen: Yes, if I ever get around to
watching it again, which maybe I won't

1497
01:14:15,959 --> 01:14:18,389
give in your reaction, but um, yeah.

1498
01:14:18,419 --> 01:14:24,249
Alice: Like it's, I feel like,
let's finish this scene and then

1499
01:14:26,289 --> 01:14:29,049
talk about the Shannon of it
all before I go, because we

1500
01:14:29,049 --> 01:14:30,349
can always patch it to the end.

1501
01:14:31,059 --> 01:14:32,249
Yeah, as well.

1502
01:14:32,939 --> 01:14:35,599
Because there's a lot that I
want to say, like, I have to say

1503
01:14:35,599 --> 01:14:38,829
about Shannon, and I want to hear
Ellen's opinion of this scene.

1504
01:14:39,699 --> 01:14:39,999
Okay.

1505
01:14:40,489 --> 01:14:44,089
Bex: But even, um, just not even
considering what happens with the rest

1506
01:14:44,089 --> 01:14:51,239
of it, just the whole them at this dinner
talking about their relationship, and

1507
01:14:51,239 --> 01:14:54,219
the music saying that whatever their
relationship is they could have done

1508
01:14:54,219 --> 01:14:57,309
better, they could have tried harder,
they could have been so much more than

1509
01:14:57,309 --> 01:15:01,514
they were, it's just, Oh, it's so painful.

1510
01:15:01,784 --> 01:15:02,884
Alice: It's so hard.

1511
01:15:03,244 --> 01:15:03,634
Yeah.

1512
01:15:04,124 --> 01:15:08,974
Bex: So, Shannon says
that she's not pregnant.

1513
01:15:09,154 --> 01:15:14,024
She was just late, and she freaked
out, and she freaked Eddie out, and

1514
01:15:14,024 --> 01:15:18,104
she's sorry for freaking him out,
but this is, it's gotta be a relief

1515
01:15:18,104 --> 01:15:19,344
that she's not pregnant, right?

1516
01:15:20,144 --> 01:15:25,884
Um, but Eddie is still, he has made the
decision, he is all in, and he's not

1517
01:15:25,884 --> 01:15:28,194
going, he's not, he can't backtrack.

1518
01:15:28,744 --> 01:15:32,344
He's gone like, "Oh, uh, actually,
no, I've, I've made this decision.

1519
01:15:32,344 --> 01:15:35,784
I'm going down this path and I'm going to
continue down this path no matter what."

1520
01:15:36,154 --> 01:15:40,724
Um, and Shannon says, "well,
actually, um, I don't want to go

1521
01:15:40,724 --> 01:15:42,064
down that path anymore with you."

1522
01:15:43,564 --> 01:15:43,904
Alice: Yeah.

1523
01:15:43,924 --> 01:15:46,324
Like Eddie literally says
it doesn't change a thing.

1524
01:15:46,484 --> 01:15:53,274
And Shannon says it does for her
because she wrote this letter a

1525
01:15:54,124 --> 01:16:00,429
few years ago, right after she
left or when she didn't come back.

1526
01:16:01,389 --> 01:16:04,409
And the letter was to Christopher trying
to explain why she couldn't be there.

1527
01:16:05,169 --> 01:16:08,899
And she figured that if for some reason
she never found her way back that he'd

1528
01:16:08,909 --> 01:16:12,449
want answers and he needed to know that
it wasn't his fault, that his mother

1529
01:16:12,449 --> 01:16:14,059
didn't leave because she didn't love him.

1530
01:16:15,499 --> 01:16:17,489
She left because she did love him.

1531
01:16:18,149 --> 01:16:19,899
Um, but she never sent it.

1532
01:16:21,029 --> 01:16:21,739
And then.

1533
01:16:22,774 --> 01:16:27,214
when she found out that she wasn't
pregnant, she took the letter out

1534
01:16:27,284 --> 01:16:31,314
and read it and she never wants
to have to send that letter.

1535
01:16:31,664 --> 01:16:33,204
And Eddie's like, "Well why would you?"

1536
01:16:34,404 --> 01:16:37,904
And Shannon says because if she tries
to do it again before she's ready,

1537
01:16:37,904 --> 01:16:39,524
there won't be a second chance.

1538
01:16:40,144 --> 01:16:43,294
She doesn't want to
fail him again or Eddie.

1539
01:16:43,954 --> 01:16:47,434
Um, she's still learning how to be
someone's mother and after that maybe

1540
01:16:47,434 --> 01:16:49,104
she can learn how to be someone's wife.

1541
01:16:51,419 --> 01:16:53,789
And Eddie goes, "Well,
we're still married."

1542
01:16:54,899 --> 01:16:58,479
And right at the end of the
scene, Shannon just goes, "I

1543
01:16:58,509 --> 01:16:59,859
think we should get a divorce."

1544
01:17:01,379 --> 01:17:04,749
So the first time I watched this,
I was like, what the fuck, Shannon?

1545
01:17:04,769 --> 01:17:08,469
Like, you're the one that wanted back in
his life and now you're leaving again?

1546
01:17:09,939 --> 01:17:10,169
Yeah.

1547
01:17:10,179 --> 01:17:16,689
And I'm really curious to see what you
think of Shannon at this point, Ellen.

1548
01:17:18,104 --> 01:17:22,944
Ellen: Yeah, watching it, I was just
thinking, like, Girl, you really need to

1549
01:17:22,954 --> 01:17:25,244
go and speak to a therapist about this.

1550
01:17:25,684 --> 01:17:29,714
And someone who's not
Bobby, as Bex said later.

1551
01:17:29,714 --> 01:17:32,509
Alice: Shannon's also at
Bobby's dining table, just like

1552
01:17:32,509 --> 01:17:34,862
Ellen: Like an actual therapist.

1553
01:17:34,862 --> 01:17:42,074
Because, I mean, in all seriousness,
she did almost certainly have

1554
01:17:42,164 --> 01:17:43,914
postnatal depression at some point.

1555
01:17:44,084 --> 01:17:50,759
Like, or at least Uh, you know, she
felt that she couldn't be the mother

1556
01:17:50,759 --> 01:17:52,309
that Chris deserved or whatever.

1557
01:17:52,509 --> 01:17:55,309
Like she did look after him,
obviously while Eddie was away.

1558
01:17:56,219 --> 01:17:58,819
And then she left later.

1559
01:17:59,609 --> 01:18:03,799
Um, so there's something going on
there with her not believing that

1560
01:18:03,799 --> 01:18:08,289
she's going to be like, she doesn't
want to let him down, all that stuff.

1561
01:18:08,289 --> 01:18:12,419
It's like a pro it's like a self esteem
issue or something's going on with her.

1562
01:18:13,009 --> 01:18:16,469
So I was just like, you don't have
to keep running away, Shannon.

1563
01:18:16,739 --> 01:18:20,839
Like she's obviously thought it was
worth a try and now she's decided

1564
01:18:21,149 --> 01:18:24,529
actually no, it's not going to work now.

1565
01:18:24,699 --> 01:18:28,419
I'm not ready yet, she says,
like next time I might be,

1566
01:18:28,419 --> 01:18:30,419
but you know, it's not now.

1567
01:18:31,289 --> 01:18:32,139
So I don't know.

1568
01:18:32,139 --> 01:18:36,299
I don't know what, what could have
happened if the worst didn't happen next.

1569
01:18:36,339 --> 01:18:36,849
I don't know.

1570
01:18:37,229 --> 01:18:37,509
But.

1571
01:18:39,469 --> 01:18:44,809
I just, I felt so sad for her that she,
she'd obviously gone through a lot in the

1572
01:18:44,809 --> 01:18:47,999
last sort of eight years or however old.

1573
01:18:48,269 --> 01:18:49,509
How old is Chris now?

1574
01:18:51,209 --> 01:18:51,599
Ten?

1575
01:18:52,259 --> 01:18:52,599
Nine?

1576
01:18:54,269 --> 01:18:57,739
Um, and now she's sort of
putting herself through it again.

1577
01:18:57,929 --> 01:18:59,129
Alice: Five or six, yeah.

1578
01:18:59,809 --> 01:19:00,139
Ellen: I don't know.

1579
01:19:00,139 --> 01:19:04,814
You know, she's decided she's going to
leave again and put everyone else and

1580
01:19:04,814 --> 01:19:06,504
herself through all that pain again.

1581
01:19:06,514 --> 01:19:09,694
So I don't, I don't know what the
way forward would have been for her.

1582
01:19:10,424 --> 01:19:14,964
Alice: Yeah, now that, like, I've
seen, obviously, the rest of the

1583
01:19:14,964 --> 01:19:20,804
show, like, Eddie just needs to
subject, stop subjecting women to him.

1584
01:19:24,124 --> 01:19:28,914
Bex: I, I find it really interesting,
Ellen, that you, this is your first

1585
01:19:28,914 --> 01:19:33,044
time watching and you are almost
immediately on Shannon's side.

1586
01:19:34,264 --> 01:19:36,414
Ellen: No, I, not necessarily, like I

1587
01:19:36,444 --> 01:19:40,414
Bex: Not, not necessarily on her side,
but you seem to empathize with her,

1588
01:19:40,904 --> 01:19:46,314
whereas I think there are sections
of the fandom that absolutely despise

1589
01:19:46,324 --> 01:19:50,504
Shannon, because they are looking
at it from Eddie's perspective,

1590
01:19:50,534 --> 01:19:52,814
and they're, she's mistreated.

1591
01:19:52,894 --> 01:19:57,294
Ellen: Oh, she hasn't done anyone any
favors with any of this stuff, like, she's

1592
01:19:57,544 --> 01:20:02,864
Alice: The first time I watched,
like, I Was I didn't not like her,

1593
01:20:03,724 --> 01:20:05,984
but I definitely didn't like her.

1594
01:20:07,594 --> 01:20:10,944
And now, like, justice
for Shannon, honestly.

1595
01:20:10,944 --> 01:20:12,894
Like, I Fuck off, Eddie.

1596
01:20:13,354 --> 01:20:14,474
I'll take Shannon.

1597
01:20:17,184 --> 01:20:20,474
Ellen: I don't agree with any
of the decisions that she's

1598
01:20:20,494 --> 01:20:22,614
made through this whole thing.

1599
01:20:22,624 --> 01:20:24,034
It's just, I'm sad for her.

1600
01:20:24,144 --> 01:20:27,174
I think that what she's
gone through is terrible.

1601
01:20:28,339 --> 01:20:32,139
Um, and not just with the ending,
but like overall, like it's,

1602
01:20:32,149 --> 01:20:34,349
it's a tragic, very tragic story.

1603
01:20:35,359 --> 01:20:42,079
Bex: It's one of those situations I
feel where people are projecting how

1604
01:20:42,159 --> 01:20:44,399
they would react in this situation.

1605
01:20:44,759 --> 01:20:49,829
And perhaps they are looking at it going,
well, I would never leave my child.

1606
01:20:50,629 --> 01:20:53,059
Um, I cannot even fathom.

1607
01:20:53,404 --> 01:20:54,884
walking away from my kids.

1608
01:20:54,884 --> 01:20:59,354
So I just, I do not understand
this character and I do not like

1609
01:20:59,764 --> 01:21:04,104
that she had this weakness of her
personality and of her character that

1610
01:21:04,104 --> 01:21:05,614
she could walk away from her child.

1611
01:21:06,114 --> 01:21:13,434
But if we as a fandom are correct and
Eddie and Shannon literally had Chris very

1612
01:21:13,434 --> 01:21:19,424
close out of high school, she would have
been what, 18, 19 when Chris was born?

1613
01:21:19,844 --> 01:21:21,494
So she's a teenager.

1614
01:21:22,619 --> 01:21:26,799
A teenager who then became a single
mother, who then became a teenage

1615
01:21:26,799 --> 01:21:28,599
single mother of a disabled kid.

1616
01:21:29,999 --> 01:21:32,459
And she held it together
as best she could,

1617
01:21:34,669 --> 01:21:35,729
until she broke.

1618
01:21:37,009 --> 01:21:38,139
And she couldn't take it anymore.

1619
01:21:38,489 --> 01:21:40,849
Alice: She like, she didn't
just turn her back and run.

1620
01:21:41,349 --> 01:21:44,859
She went to her mother,
who was dying, I think?

1621
01:21:44,859 --> 01:21:45,479
Yeah.

1622
01:21:45,479 --> 01:21:45,839
Yeah.

1623
01:21:47,394 --> 01:21:48,624
And like I've said, so

1624
01:21:48,794 --> 01:21:50,744
Ellen: She had to look
after her mum, didn't she?

1625
01:21:50,864 --> 01:21:51,654
She said that.

1626
01:21:52,744 --> 01:21:59,444
Alice: So I, like, I'm currently the
age that my mother was when she had me,

1627
01:22:00,244 --> 01:22:08,584
and two weeks after I was born, mum lost
her dad, and then two years after she

1628
01:22:08,594 --> 01:22:14,079
had me she lost her mum, and now that
I'm in my thirties I've said to mum,

1629
01:22:14,079 --> 01:22:16,359
I'm just like, I don't know how the
fuck you did it without your parents.

1630
01:22:17,669 --> 01:22:20,189
Because like, I've literally just
moved back home with my parents.

1631
01:22:22,639 --> 01:22:26,699
Bex: And I'm not discounting
your fur babies, because they are

1632
01:22:26,719 --> 01:22:28,809
absolutely 100 percent your children.

1633
01:22:29,529 --> 01:22:30,399
Alice: Oh, totally different.

1634
01:22:30,409 --> 01:22:31,589
Yeah, totally different.

1635
01:22:32,029 --> 01:22:32,949
Bex: You're not, yeah,
you don't have kids.

1636
01:22:33,129 --> 01:22:36,249
Alice: I can leave them at home
and go, yeah, like I, that's it.

1637
01:22:36,279 --> 01:22:37,209
Like, I don't know how she did it.

1638
01:22:37,209 --> 01:22:39,209
You don't know how to do
it and you don't have kids.

1639
01:22:39,289 --> 01:22:39,719
Yeah.

1640
01:22:39,839 --> 01:22:42,269
Like I don't know how she did it with.

1641
01:22:42,664 --> 01:22:46,404
two young kids and no parents.

1642
01:22:46,444 --> 01:22:50,814
And like, I only really hit me
when I got into my thirties because

1643
01:22:50,884 --> 01:22:53,514
until then you're like, Oh yeah,
your thirties are so grown up.

1644
01:22:53,544 --> 01:22:54,684
And I'm like, no, it's not.

1645
01:22:55,054 --> 01:22:56,164
I still want my mum.

1646
01:22:57,424 --> 01:22:57,614
Ellen: Yeah.

1647
01:22:57,614 --> 01:23:02,004
But I mean, the thing with, that's amazing
about people, like people in general,

1648
01:23:02,004 --> 01:23:06,454
not just women or mothers is that you
just do what you got to do, right?

1649
01:23:06,454 --> 01:23:12,084
Like you just deal with stuff
until you can't anymore, which

1650
01:23:12,084 --> 01:23:13,414
is, I guess, what happened to her.

1651
01:23:13,434 --> 01:23:17,974
Um, you know, she tried and tried and did
what she had to do because Eddie wasn't

1652
01:23:17,974 --> 01:23:19,564
there and she didn't have the support.

1653
01:23:20,454 --> 01:23:24,564
And then eventually it got too
much and, like, I don't, I don't

1654
01:23:24,564 --> 01:23:27,564
know what the timeline, like,
Eddie came back and then she left?

1655
01:23:27,564 --> 01:23:28,784
Like, what was the

1656
01:23:29,224 --> 01:23:30,914
Alice: We get more of it later, so you'll

1657
01:23:31,094 --> 01:23:31,679
Ellen: Okay, okay.

1658
01:23:31,679 --> 01:23:34,444
Yeah, you are missing
little bits of the story.

1659
01:23:35,204 --> 01:23:37,164
Alice: You're missing a big
chunk of the story, really.

1660
01:23:37,814 --> 01:23:38,104
. 
Ellen: Yeah.

1661
01:23:38,134 --> 01:23:38,424
Okay.

1662
01:23:38,829 --> 01:23:41,829
I wasn't sure if it was just something
that we heard about a lot earlier and

1663
01:23:41,829 --> 01:23:43,119
I just forgotten about it or what?

1664
01:23:43,119 --> 01:23:43,239
Alice: No, no.

1665
01:23:43,239 --> 01:23:44,184
Like there's okay.

1666
01:23:44,289 --> 01:23:47,679
Like none, none of this is like
fan like we get another episode.

1667
01:23:48,399 --> 01:23:49,239
Um, okay.

1668
01:23:49,239 --> 01:23:49,329
Bex: Yeah.

1669
01:23:49,329 --> 01:23:53,109
You still, you I don't think this
is gonna be considering we've had

1670
01:23:53,109 --> 01:23:56,229
Hen Begins and Chim Begins, we
are gonna get an Eddie Begins.

1671
01:23:56,379 --> 01:23:56,619
Yeah.

1672
01:23:56,619 --> 01:23:58,329
I don't think that's
a spoiler to say that.

1673
01:23:58,329 --> 01:24:01,719
I think that's um, prices of
elimination that we would get that.

1674
01:24:01,719 --> 01:24:04,254
So yeah, there is gonna be an
Eddie begins and we get a lot

1675
01:24:04,254 --> 01:24:05,229
and we get a little bit more.

1676
01:24:05,574 --> 01:24:08,104
Alice: Yeah, and like, honestly,
after seeing Eddie Begins and then re

1677
01:24:08,104 --> 01:24:12,054
watching this, like, I, as I said, I
sobbed from the restaurant onwards.

1678
01:24:12,664 --> 01:24:13,754
Ellen: Yeah, it's difficult.

1679
01:24:14,074 --> 01:24:14,804
Alice: Justice for Shannon.

1680
01:24:14,804 --> 01:24:17,924
Bex: The more that, yeah, the more that
you watch this show and the more you

1681
01:24:17,924 --> 01:24:22,104
come back to Shannon, you realize how
badly she was mistreated by the writers.

1682
01:24:22,734 --> 01:24:22,974
Yeah.

1683
01:24:23,634 --> 01:24:27,604
Because she is like the living embodiment
of the failure of the Bechdel test.

1684
01:24:28,024 --> 01:24:28,274
Yeah.

1685
01:24:28,414 --> 01:24:31,814
Because there is nothing about
Shannon that doesn't relate to a man.

1686
01:24:32,664 --> 01:24:37,214
Ellen: Yeah, I don't think she ever has
a conversation with another woman or

1687
01:24:38,004 --> 01:24:40,304
Bex: She, we never see
her talk to another woman.

1688
01:24:40,314 --> 01:24:43,829
Her, she, her only connections are
the only things we know about her.

1689
01:24:43,829 --> 01:24:45,954
Alice: I mean, she sort of
waved to Eddie's grandmother.

1690
01:24:47,094 --> 01:24:48,844
They went out for ice cream with Chris.

1691
01:24:49,654 --> 01:24:51,394
Bex: But there was
Christopher there as well.

1692
01:24:51,394 --> 01:24:52,684
Alice: That's what I
mean, and called Eddie.

1693
01:24:52,684 --> 01:24:58,579
Bex: So like, she only, she only has, Her
only connections, the only thing we know

1694
01:24:58,579 --> 01:25:01,839
about her are her connections and her
relationship to Eddie and her connections

1695
01:25:01,839 --> 01:25:03,079
and relationship with Christopher.

1696
01:25:03,779 --> 01:25:05,099
What does she do for a job?

1697
01:25:06,449 --> 01:25:07,449
Where does she live?

1698
01:25:08,699 --> 01:25:10,109
We don't know anything about this.

1699
01:25:10,109 --> 01:25:12,069
Ellen: She's a very paper
doll character, isn't she?

1700
01:25:12,069 --> 01:25:13,669
We don't know anything about her.

1701
01:25:13,709 --> 01:25:20,999
Alice: I really like, um, the Like I've
seen her in fan fiction pair, uh, paired

1702
01:25:20,999 --> 01:25:22,519
up with Taylor a lot and I love it.

1703
01:25:24,449 --> 01:25:26,619
Cause like, yes, that's what she deserves.

1704
01:25:26,689 --> 01:25:29,609
If there's someone feisty to
me, like, no, fuck all of you.

1705
01:25:29,939 --> 01:25:32,339
This is my, this is my woman.

1706
01:25:33,379 --> 01:25:34,199
Ellen: I like that.

1707
01:25:34,219 --> 01:25:35,049
That's a great pairing.

1708
01:25:36,959 --> 01:25:37,979
I hope Taylor comes back.

1709
01:25:37,979 --> 01:25:39,399
Is she going to come back at some point?

1710
01:25:39,409 --> 01:25:39,879
Cause I'm,

1711
01:25:40,119 --> 01:25:40,529
Alice: oh yeah.

1712
01:25:41,359 --> 01:25:41,899
Ellen: Excellent.

1713
01:25:41,939 --> 01:25:43,269
Alice: You haven't seen
the last of Taylor.

1714
01:25:45,429 --> 01:25:46,059
Ellen: Yeah, so.

1715
01:25:47,829 --> 01:25:52,569
I don't know what Shannon was sort
of aiming at with the, like, wanting

1716
01:25:52,569 --> 01:25:57,849
to get a divorce and then somehow
still later wanting to come back

1717
01:25:57,849 --> 01:25:59,189
and be part of Christopher's life.

1718
01:25:59,229 --> 01:25:59,659
Like,

1719
01:26:00,479 --> 01:26:00,689
Alice: Yeah.

1720
01:26:00,819 --> 01:26:02,149
So she didn't want to leave Christopher.

1721
01:26:02,169 --> 01:26:05,039
She just wanted to leave Eddie basically.

1722
01:26:05,199 --> 01:26:10,189
Bex: No, but she didn't want,
you can divorce, like, when you

1723
01:26:10,189 --> 01:26:14,159
get divorced as a parent, you are
unfortunately still stuck with them.

1724
01:26:14,699 --> 01:26:18,449
You can't leave them because you have a
child and you're still connected to them.

1725
01:26:18,459 --> 01:26:24,449
She was just trying, I think, to
stop Eddie from trying with her.

1726
01:26:25,099 --> 01:26:30,809
Because she had seen that, you know, he
considered her the mother of his child.

1727
01:26:31,099 --> 01:26:31,349
Yeah.

1728
01:26:31,519 --> 01:26:35,469
Not his wife, not his partner,
not the woman that he loved.

1729
01:26:35,469 --> 01:26:37,289
She was just Christopher's mother.

1730
01:26:37,529 --> 01:26:39,409
Alice: Not the person who had his back.

1731
01:26:41,399 --> 01:26:42,116
Just his son's mother,

1732
01:26:42,116 --> 01:26:46,749
Bex: so she, she just wanted to sever
the romantic and sexual connection

1733
01:26:46,749 --> 01:26:49,269
between them so they could be co-parents.

1734
01:26:49,269 --> 01:26:54,039
She could still be in Christopher's life,
but she wasn't tied to this man who didn't

1735
01:26:54,039 --> 01:26:58,479
really want her, who just felt obligated
to have her because they made a decision,

1736
01:26:58,509 --> 01:27:00,279
stupid decision when they were teenagers.

1737
01:27:00,819 --> 01:27:01,269
Ellen: Okay.

1738
01:27:01,539 --> 01:27:02,259
That makes more sense.

1739
01:27:02,259 --> 01:27:03,639
Bex: I think that if they had,

1740
01:27:03,729 --> 01:27:06,594
Ellen: she was trying to claw
back some self-determination.

1741
01:27:07,704 --> 01:27:10,844
Bex: Yeah, I think that if they had
got divorced, they probably would

1742
01:27:10,864 --> 01:27:13,474
have been really good co parents
and they would have been, they would

1743
01:27:13,474 --> 01:27:15,154
have gone back to being friends.

1744
01:27:15,344 --> 01:27:15,704
Yeah.

1745
01:27:16,484 --> 01:27:19,614
Because they were friends before
they were, they were, they were

1746
01:27:19,614 --> 01:27:21,794
friends before Chris came along.

1747
01:27:22,574 --> 01:27:25,574
And I think they could have gone back to
that and that probably would have been

1748
01:27:25,574 --> 01:27:34,244
a good relationship or she would have
left and we would have got like mentions.

1749
01:27:34,844 --> 01:27:36,294
Oh, where's Chris this weekend?

1750
01:27:36,314 --> 01:27:37,974
Oh, he's off in blah blah
blah with his mother.

1751
01:27:39,014 --> 01:27:43,174
No, any time Gavin couldn't be on
set, he's off with wherever Shannon

1752
01:27:43,174 --> 01:27:46,084
is, um, spending time with her.

1753
01:27:46,154 --> 01:27:47,944
Alice: Yeah, he's at Shannon
and Taylor's this weekend.

1754
01:27:48,194 --> 01:27:48,214
Yeah.

1755
01:27:51,694 --> 01:27:57,719
Bex: So, I mean, there could have been
ways around either keeping Shannon, um, In

1756
01:27:57,719 --> 01:28:03,069
the show, but not having her tied to Eddie
or getting rid of her completely and just

1757
01:28:03,069 --> 01:28:06,749
having her be a We're gonna mention her
every now and then so that the audience

1758
01:28:06,749 --> 01:28:11,839
knows that she still exists and that she
is a place that Chris can go They did

1759
01:28:11,839 --> 01:28:14,189
not have to go the route that they went.

1760
01:28:14,489 --> 01:28:14,749
No.

1761
01:28:15,229 --> 01:28:17,529
Ellen: Oh, but she only
exists for man pain

1762
01:28:18,389 --> 01:28:19,129
Alice: Apparently.

1763
01:28:19,129 --> 01:28:24,059
Literally, yeah, like she's
there as an incubator, and then

1764
01:28:24,289 --> 01:28:25,489
for Eddie's tears, that's it.

1765
01:28:25,489 --> 01:28:28,779
Ellen: I mean, we were happy for them
to take lessons from Supernatural,

1766
01:28:28,779 --> 01:28:30,009
but they didn't have to go this far.

1767
01:28:30,009 --> 01:28:35,209
Bex: But I think it's, it's
worse than Supernatural.

1768
01:28:36,279 --> 01:28:41,189
Because I mean, if we're gonna,
if we're gonna go there, it's not

1769
01:28:41,199 --> 01:28:46,179
even, I don't think you can even
consider this to be fridging.

1770
01:28:47,809 --> 01:28:54,354
Because with fridging, you The
woman dies to motivate the man.

1771
01:28:55,564 --> 01:29:00,454
It's their death is a plot device
to further the man's story.

1772
01:29:00,814 --> 01:29:04,454
I don't see that that happens with Eddie.

1773
01:29:04,634 --> 01:29:08,274
Ellen: I haven't seen enough of the,
of the following episodes to know, but

1774
01:29:08,414 --> 01:29:10,514
that's how it feels to me at the moment.

1775
01:29:10,574 --> 01:29:15,064
Bex: It feels like she should die
in order to further his story.

1776
01:29:15,204 --> 01:29:18,204
Um, but it doesn't.

1777
01:29:19,414 --> 01:29:20,554
Ellen: Oh, that's a shame.

1778
01:29:20,664 --> 01:29:22,774
I mean, the whole thing is a shame, but.

1779
01:29:24,044 --> 01:29:27,684
To make it not even worth
that much is a bit sad.

1780
01:29:27,974 --> 01:29:29,874
Bex: To not even make it mean anything.

1781
01:29:30,554 --> 01:29:30,964
Ellen: Yeah.

1782
01:29:33,084 --> 01:29:37,824
Alice: Yeah, it's just another like,
plot in his wiki page where it's

1783
01:29:37,824 --> 01:29:43,034
just like, yeah, single father,
like, special needs child, widow.

1784
01:29:44,374 --> 01:29:44,724
Ellen: Yeah.

1785
01:29:45,704 --> 01:29:50,404
Bex: And it wasn't even that, um,
the actress didn't want to come back.

1786
01:29:51,084 --> 01:29:53,274
She was just as shocked as everybody else.

1787
01:29:53,694 --> 01:29:57,094
that this was what she
was given for this script.

1788
01:29:58,214 --> 01:29:59,984
Apparently the entire cast was shocked.

1789
01:30:00,214 --> 01:30:00,614
Ellen: Yeah.

1790
01:30:00,994 --> 01:30:01,984
Well, that's very sudden.

1791
01:30:01,984 --> 01:30:06,614
I mean, I didn't really, I, I knew that
it had happened, like she was going

1792
01:30:06,914 --> 01:30:09,860
to die at some point, but I didn't
realize it happened at this point.

1793
01:30:09,860 --> 01:30:13,104
Alice: Yeah, like I'd seen a spoiler that
she was, yeah, like I'd seen a spoiler

1794
01:30:13,104 --> 01:30:14,904
just before watching this episode.

1795
01:30:15,564 --> 01:30:21,844
Um, on Twitter, like someone mentioned
somewhere that like, Shannon had died.

1796
01:30:22,729 --> 01:30:24,749
And I was just like, oh, and
like, I thought it would be

1797
01:30:24,749 --> 01:30:27,019
like a season four type thing.

1798
01:30:27,799 --> 01:30:29,329
I did not expect it this soon.

1799
01:30:29,429 --> 01:30:31,089
Bex: I think that would make more sense.

1800
01:30:32,219 --> 01:30:35,219
Yeah, I think that would make more
sense if they had allowed Shannon to

1801
01:30:35,219 --> 01:30:38,359
stick around for a little bit longer
rather than try and do an entire

1802
01:30:38,379 --> 01:30:41,179
relationship arc within one season.

1803
01:30:42,989 --> 01:30:48,209
Perhaps if they had allowed
Shannon to stick around for a

1804
01:30:48,209 --> 01:30:50,339
little bit longer, we might've
got to know her a little bit more.

1805
01:30:50,619 --> 01:30:58,109
And we might have actually been sad
that it was Shannon that died and

1806
01:30:58,109 --> 01:30:59,759
not just sad because Eddie was sad.

1807
01:31:00,819 --> 01:31:03,789
Alice: Yeah, like I was
sad that Eddie was sad.

1808
01:31:03,799 --> 01:31:04,779
Yeah, exactly.

1809
01:31:04,779 --> 01:31:10,509
Until I watched Eddie Begins and
now my heart hurts for Shannon.

1810
01:31:10,509 --> 01:31:14,249
Ellen: I mean it was, we've only seen
her for what, like four, like not

1811
01:31:14,249 --> 01:31:16,019
even like three episodes or something?

1812
01:31:16,019 --> 01:31:17,469
She hasn't been in many.

1813
01:31:18,469 --> 01:31:19,379
And exactly.

1814
01:31:19,389 --> 01:31:23,929
She hasn't said more A couple
of words in some of those.

1815
01:31:24,769 --> 01:31:24,929
Alice: Yeah.

1816
01:31:24,929 --> 01:31:28,159
I think this episode's, like,
she's in this episode most.

1817
01:31:28,589 --> 01:31:33,189
Bex: Who was, who was the guy that
got, um, cut in half by the motorbike?

1818
01:31:33,399 --> 01:31:34,109
Alice: Oh, David Wallace.

1819
01:31:34,739 --> 01:31:39,363
Bex: David Wallace had, they invested
more time in setting up David Wallace's

1820
01:31:39,363 --> 01:31:43,319
story and making us love David
Wallace than they did with Shannon.

1821
01:31:43,319 --> 01:31:44,179
Alice: Than poor Shannon.

1822
01:31:44,419 --> 01:31:46,529
Bex: And David Wallace
had what, five minutes?

1823
01:31:46,539 --> 01:31:47,819
Shannon's had an entire season.

1824
01:31:47,819 --> 01:31:54,219
And I think David Wallace had more of an
impact with his death than Shannon did.

1825
01:31:55,169 --> 01:31:55,919
Ellen: Oh dear.

1826
01:31:56,629 --> 01:31:57,549
Alice: Justice for Shannon.

1827
01:31:58,439 --> 01:32:02,339
Bex: Honestly, justice for all the women
in the show, but especially Shannon.

1828
01:32:02,409 --> 01:32:03,289
Especially Shannon.

1829
01:32:03,864 --> 01:32:07,444
Ellen: All right, well, I guess
we Oh, we've got one more scene.

1830
01:32:07,804 --> 01:32:10,044
One more scene before the sad part.

1831
01:32:10,434 --> 01:32:11,074
Bex: Oh, yes.

1832
01:32:11,114 --> 01:32:16,064
Let's watch, um, let's watch Josh
break some, um, confidentiality

1833
01:32:16,064 --> 01:32:17,294
and some privacy laws.

1834
01:32:17,384 --> 01:32:18,414
Alice: Oh my god, literally.

1835
01:32:18,414 --> 01:32:19,284
What the fuck?

1836
01:32:20,404 --> 01:32:23,464
Bex: Apparently Abby wasn't the only
one who used to delve into the records

1837
01:32:23,464 --> 01:32:25,404
to get people's personal information.

1838
01:32:25,414 --> 01:32:27,074
Alice: Yeah, I'm starting to
see where she got it from.

1839
01:32:29,104 --> 01:32:30,204
Ellen: Maybe Josh learned it from her.

1840
01:32:32,349 --> 01:32:35,599
So he's going to have coffee
with, uh, with Maddie.

1841
01:32:36,769 --> 01:32:41,579
And, well, Josh invites her for coffee,
and she's like, "I'm always down for

1842
01:32:41,579 --> 01:32:43,859
coffee, but what's really going on?"

1843
01:32:43,929 --> 01:32:46,729
Like, what, why were you
suspecting something, Maddie?

1844
01:32:46,989 --> 01:32:51,174
Like, you just don't, Josh doesn't
normally ask you out for coffee?

1845
01:32:51,174 --> 01:32:53,609
Bex: Clearly Josh doesn't
normally ask her out for coffee.

1846
01:32:53,609 --> 01:32:58,478
Either that or it was like, I need you
to be at this coffee shop at this time.

1847
01:32:58,478 --> 01:33:00,101
Ellen: Yeah, it's like a surprise party.

1848
01:33:00,101 --> 01:33:02,914
Alice: Yeah, to be fair, Josh
doesn't, Josh doesn't seem like

1849
01:33:02,914 --> 01:33:04,174
a subtle person either, so.

1850
01:33:04,344 --> 01:33:05,084
Bex: Oh, God, no.

1851
01:33:06,654 --> 01:33:10,814
Alice: But yeah, so Maddie, Maddie, like,
immediately thinks, like, he's going

1852
01:33:10,814 --> 01:33:12,144
to try and convince me not to leave.

1853
01:33:12,674 --> 01:33:15,004
Bex: And Which is exactly what he says.

1854
01:33:15,114 --> 01:33:16,139
I do love He says

1855
01:33:16,139 --> 01:33:18,644
Alice: I love Josh so much
because, yeah, he's just like,

1856
01:33:18,644 --> 01:33:19,614
"Remember your first call?"

1857
01:33:19,644 --> 01:33:22,474
And Maddie goes, "Yeah, anaphylactic
shock, seafood allergy."

1858
01:33:23,004 --> 01:33:25,424
And Josh is like, "Remember the first
lesson I taught you on that call?"

1859
01:33:25,424 --> 01:33:26,964
And Maddie's like, "Yeah,
you taught me to listen."

1860
01:33:27,274 --> 01:33:28,744
And he's like, "Yeah, okay, terrific.

1861
01:33:28,744 --> 01:33:29,524
So do that now."

1862
01:33:31,424 --> 01:33:32,484
Like, wow, okay.

1863
01:33:32,924 --> 01:33:35,464
Like, thought that that was
gonna have like some nope, just

1864
01:33:35,534 --> 01:33:36,664
shut the fuck up and listen.

1865
01:33:36,974 --> 01:33:37,154
Bex: Yeah.

1866
01:33:37,194 --> 01:33:37,404
Yep.

1867
01:33:38,614 --> 01:33:45,694
And what she's listening to is that
Josh and Sue dived into the 9-1-1

1868
01:33:45,714 --> 01:33:50,014
records, managed to find the personal
information of a variety of people who

1869
01:33:50,514 --> 01:33:56,584
Maddie took 9-1-1 calls from, called
them and gathered them in this coffee

1870
01:33:56,584 --> 01:34:00,339
shop, invited them to this coffee shop
to stage an intervention for Maddie.

1871
01:34:01,209 --> 01:34:01,449
Ellen: Yeah.

1872
01:34:01,449 --> 01:34:04,329
And then they all, there's
heaps of them there, in the end.

1873
01:34:04,329 --> 01:34:07,659
One by one they all come forward
and tell her how much she,

1874
01:34:07,659 --> 01:34:07,660
Alice: yeah.

1875
01:34:07,664 --> 01:34:10,024
It's basically Maddie's
greatest hits, plus some extras.

1876
01:34:10,209 --> 01:34:10,479
Ellen: Yeah.

1877
01:34:11,499 --> 01:34:15,489
, they tell her how, how she saved
their life and, and she knows

1878
01:34:15,489 --> 01:34:19,179
all their names, like even though
she's never seen them before and

1879
01:34:19,179 --> 01:34:20,919
she just recognizes their voices.

1880
01:34:21,519 --> 01:34:25,419
Alice: Like, I work in a store
where customers have accounts,

1881
01:34:25,429 --> 01:34:29,059
so their name comes up on the
account and I read their names.

1882
01:34:29,079 --> 01:34:30,779
I still don't fucking
know the regular's names.

1883
01:34:30,939 --> 01:34:31,149
Ellen: No.

1884
01:34:31,329 --> 01:34:32,669
I don't remember anyone's name ever.

1885
01:34:33,519 --> 01:34:36,699
Alice: I know the dog's names,
I don't know the people's names.

1886
01:34:38,159 --> 01:34:40,789
Bex: And I'm very impressed that
she's able to recognize everyone

1887
01:34:40,789 --> 01:34:41,999
just by the sound of their voice.

1888
01:34:42,099 --> 01:34:42,259
Alice: Yeah.

1889
01:34:44,689 --> 01:34:46,949
Bex: So yeah, we get the,
it's Maddie's Greatest Hits.

1890
01:34:46,949 --> 01:34:50,814
We get, we start off with Nicole,
which was the woman from the movie.

1891
01:34:51,434 --> 01:34:57,244
earlier in the episode, um, then we get
the husband and wife from the earthquake.

1892
01:34:57,244 --> 01:34:57,544
Oh, hang on.

1893
01:34:58,004 --> 01:34:59,324
Alice: Sam's okay, by the way.

1894
01:34:59,794 --> 01:35:01,464
Um, the police got there in time.

1895
01:35:02,344 --> 01:35:04,054
Bex: I don't give a fuck about Sam.

1896
01:35:04,054 --> 01:35:05,738
I didn't give a fuck
about him the first time.

1897
01:35:05,898 --> 01:35:06,778
Alice: What're you talking about?

1898
01:35:06,778 --> 01:35:08,304
We need to know about Sam.

1899
01:35:08,484 --> 01:35:10,424
Um,

1900
01:35:10,424 --> 01:35:11,504
Ellen: Maddie needs closure.

1901
01:35:12,184 --> 01:35:14,294
Alice: Maddie needs closure, Bex!

1902
01:35:16,004 --> 01:35:16,254
Bex: Okay.

1903
01:35:16,254 --> 01:35:17,104
Maddie needs closure.

1904
01:35:17,114 --> 01:35:17,794
I don't care.

1905
01:35:17,794 --> 01:35:22,414
Um, so we have Nicole, we then have the
husband and wife from the earthquake

1906
01:35:22,414 --> 01:35:26,574
who, uh, she very bluntly told the
husband that health was not coming

1907
01:35:26,794 --> 01:35:31,989
before somehow summoning a magical
cell phone that got signal through to

1908
01:35:32,139 --> 01:35:32,889
Ellen: Oh, yeah.

1909
01:35:33,729 --> 01:35:34,309
Bex: Yeah.

1910
01:35:35,529 --> 01:35:35,983
A fire, yeah.

1911
01:35:35,983 --> 01:35:36,579
And she got them help.

1912
01:35:37,299 --> 01:35:38,919
Uh, so we have them and they

1913
01:35:39,109 --> 01:35:40,119
Alice: The baby's also there.

1914
01:35:40,119 --> 01:35:42,709
Bex: The baby's also there, and I was
side eyeing it, going, shouldn't that

1915
01:35:42,709 --> 01:35:46,349
baby be bigger by now, considering
that was, what, six, seven months?

1916
01:35:46,389 --> 01:35:47,289
Ellen: Yeah, that was a while ago.

1917
01:35:47,499 --> 01:35:48,169
Bex: Since the earthquake.

1918
01:35:48,189 --> 01:35:48,479
Yeah.

1919
01:35:48,964 --> 01:35:52,674
So once again, 9-1-1 has no idea
about the relative size of babies.

1920
01:35:53,624 --> 01:35:56,514
Alice: They used the same
baby that was given birth to.

1921
01:35:56,914 --> 01:35:58,634
And they're just like, oh yeah,
everyone says it looks like a

1922
01:35:58,634 --> 01:35:59,724
two year old, so we're just gonna

1923
01:36:01,484 --> 01:36:05,804
Bex: Uh, we get, um, Brandon
from the Christmas episode.

1924
01:36:06,354 --> 01:36:08,084
Alice: Oh yeah, the guy
that was, um, posted.

1925
01:36:08,684 --> 01:36:14,214
Bex: We get Norman and, um, Lola, and
I call bullshit on this one because

1926
01:36:14,254 --> 01:36:18,294
I would say that Buck had more of an
impact on those two than Maddie did.

1927
01:36:18,854 --> 01:36:20,474
Alice: And isn't Lola
supposed to be in jail?

1928
01:36:22,434 --> 01:36:24,064
Bex: Maybe she didn't get that long.

1929
01:36:26,544 --> 01:36:29,584
Alice: And um, speaking of people
that are supposed to be in jail.

1930
01:36:30,664 --> 01:36:32,404
Bex: And then we get fucking Gloria.

1931
01:36:33,179 --> 01:36:33,629
Ellen: Gloria.

1932
01:36:33,639 --> 01:36:37,289
Oh yeah, and Maddie does say,
aren't you supposed to be

1933
01:36:38,789 --> 01:36:43,249
Bex: I love that Gloria's introduction was
Norman and Laura, um, Norman and Lola are

1934
01:36:43,249 --> 01:36:47,869
talking to Maddie about how, um, how she
helped them and Gloria just looks at them

1935
01:36:47,869 --> 01:36:50,019
and goes, I would have hung up on you.

1936
01:36:52,899 --> 01:36:55,589
Just in case we forgot who Gloria was.

1937
01:36:57,414 --> 01:36:59,994
Alice: To be fair, I totally forgot that
that was season two, even though it's

1938
01:37:00,004 --> 01:37:02,234
with Maddie and she's only in season two.

1939
01:37:02,244 --> 01:37:03,614
Ellen: Yeah, I was surprised actually.

1940
01:37:03,614 --> 01:37:05,164
I was like, was that season two?

1941
01:37:05,164 --> 01:37:07,224
That seems like such a long time ago.

1942
01:37:07,314 --> 01:37:08,664
But I mean, it was a long time

1943
01:37:08,664 --> 01:37:09,224
ago.

1944
01:37:09,224 --> 01:37:11,604
Alice: Like, that was before
Chim bled out for six weeks.

1945
01:37:11,914 --> 01:37:12,284
Ellen: That's right.

1946
01:37:12,934 --> 01:37:15,784
Bex: So Gloria has apparently
had a, um, a change of heart.

1947
01:37:16,174 --> 01:37:18,794
The time behind bars has done her good.

1948
01:37:19,414 --> 01:37:23,114
And she is, um, realized
the error of her ways.

1949
01:37:23,834 --> 01:37:25,124
Ellen: Maddie fixed her too, apparently.

1950
01:37:25,664 --> 01:37:30,474
Bex: Apparently, and Maddie is
oh this bit frustrates me because

1951
01:37:30,484 --> 01:37:34,014
Maddie is still looking to Gloria
like she has all the answers.

1952
01:37:34,664 --> 01:37:39,114
Because Maddie asks Gloria whether
being on the call with someone,

1953
01:37:39,114 --> 01:37:42,894
being just listening to them so
they're not alone, is that enough?

1954
01:37:43,484 --> 01:37:47,054
She's Does she doesn't feel like she's
making a difference just by being on the

1955
01:37:47,054 --> 01:37:51,054
call with them and Gloria said "Well you
don't realize how much of a difference

1956
01:37:51,054 --> 01:37:53,904
you're making until you are actually
on the other end of the phone having

1957
01:37:53,904 --> 01:37:58,544
an emergency And having that person
on the other end of the phone listen

1958
01:37:58,554 --> 01:38:02,874
just being with you in the middle of
it in the middle of an emergency is the

1959
01:38:02,884 --> 01:38:07,644
scariest part and you don't just need
help you need hope," and that's what

1960
01:38:08,174 --> 01:38:14,539
Maddie is She is hope At this point,
everybody in the coffee shop stands up.

1961
01:38:14,909 --> 01:38:17,789
Alice: I don't know, like, I was
literally thinking, like, the

1962
01:38:17,789 --> 01:38:20,439
poor people that are just in this
coffee shop to try and have coffee.

1963
01:38:20,439 --> 01:38:23,509
But no, apparently all of them have
been saved by Maddie, so it's fine.

1964
01:38:23,789 --> 01:38:25,849
Bex: Josh booked the entire coffee shop.

1965
01:38:28,019 --> 01:38:33,951
Ellen: It is, it is, it's super sweet
in a kind of on the nose kind of way,

1966
01:38:33,951 --> 01:38:36,744
like, over the top kind of sappy.

1967
01:38:37,904 --> 01:38:39,674
But Maddie is in tears.

1968
01:38:39,674 --> 01:38:40,814
She's really grateful.

1969
01:38:40,844 --> 01:38:45,694
And, you know, she thanks Josh with a
big hug and she's not going to leave

1970
01:38:45,694 --> 01:38:49,914
after all, and still not really sure
why this is in this episode, but

1971
01:38:50,794 --> 01:38:52,584
Alice: Look, it still gives
me goosebumps every time.

1972
01:38:52,594 --> 01:38:53,064
Ellen: Yeah.

1973
01:38:53,324 --> 01:38:53,594
Yeah.

1974
01:38:53,594 --> 01:38:54,404
It's kind of nice.

1975
01:38:54,504 --> 01:38:54,894
Alice: It's awful.

1976
01:38:54,894 --> 01:38:58,324
And it's such a breach of privacy, but

1977
01:38:58,574 --> 01:38:59,474
Bex: Oh my God.

1978
01:38:59,524 --> 01:39:01,294
Alice: But every time Maddie cries, I cry.

1979
01:39:01,294 --> 01:39:01,414
So

1980
01:39:02,714 --> 01:39:04,954
Bex: But don't you think it would
have, can you imagine, like, it

1981
01:39:04,964 --> 01:39:09,184
has this emotional impact and
she's only been contemplating

1982
01:39:09,184 --> 01:39:11,644
leaving for maybe five minutes.

1983
01:39:11,954 --> 01:39:16,894
Could you imagine if we had like
three weeks of her not at dispatch?

1984
01:39:17,704 --> 01:39:23,324
And then, finally, in desperation, Josh
pulls this Hail Mary to try and get

1985
01:39:23,324 --> 01:39:27,484
her to come back and she realizes that
she is actually making a difference.

1986
01:39:27,604 --> 01:39:28,024
Ellen: Yeah.

1987
01:39:29,349 --> 01:39:34,904
Yeah, but they only had 18 episodes and
not 23, so I guess I had to compress it.

1988
01:39:34,904 --> 01:39:38,159
Bex: Are we going to say
goodbye to you now, Alice?

1989
01:39:38,979 --> 01:39:41,439
Alice: Yeah, I am out.

1990
01:39:43,109 --> 01:39:45,489
Bex: Is there anything else you
want to say about this episode?

1991
01:39:45,489 --> 01:39:48,509
Alice: I think I've covered it all.

1992
01:39:49,219 --> 01:39:51,729
Like, the pacing's strange.

1993
01:39:52,269 --> 01:39:54,369
This next part definitely
comes out of nowhere.

1994
01:39:55,059 --> 01:39:56,289
And justice for Shannon.

1995
01:39:56,859 --> 01:39:57,499
Yes.

1996
01:39:57,859 --> 01:39:57,949
Yep.

1997
01:39:57,949 --> 01:40:00,289
I'm still mad about it and I
watched it like two days ago.

1998
01:40:00,709 --> 01:40:01,299
Ellen: Okay.

1999
01:40:01,749 --> 01:40:02,619
Alice: Um, goodnight.

2000
01:40:02,629 --> 01:40:03,419
Ellen: Thank you.

2001
01:40:03,429 --> 01:40:03,659
Goodnight.

2002
01:40:04,139 --> 01:40:05,139
Alice: See everyone next week.

2003
01:40:07,209 --> 01:40:07,749
Bye.

2004
01:40:07,809 --> 01:40:08,269
Ellen: Bye.

2005
01:40:09,139 --> 01:40:09,539
Bex: Okay.

2006
01:40:09,569 --> 01:40:10,979
Alright, it's just you and me then.

2007
01:40:11,029 --> 01:40:11,349
Ellen: Yeah.

2008
01:40:12,029 --> 01:40:12,799
Let's do it.

2009
01:40:12,849 --> 01:40:13,689
Okay, so.

2010
01:40:15,369 --> 01:40:19,009
Bex: We get a 9-1-1 call and of
course it's not Josh or Maddie

2011
01:40:19,009 --> 01:40:20,439
because they're in a coffee shop.

2012
01:40:20,619 --> 01:40:21,099
Ellen: Mm hmm.

2013
01:40:21,869 --> 01:40:23,429
You mean people, other people work there?

2014
01:40:24,769 --> 01:40:26,149
I thought Josh never left.

2015
01:40:27,119 --> 01:40:28,629
Bex: Maybe Sue's manning the phones.

2016
01:40:28,629 --> 01:40:30,539
They've dragged Terry up
from the IT department.

2017
01:40:31,409 --> 01:40:31,859
Ellen: Yes.

2018
01:40:33,909 --> 01:40:37,839
It's, we don't, like the 9-1-1 calls
that we get where it's not Maddie

2019
01:40:37,839 --> 01:40:41,209
or Josh, are always just people
that we don't recognize, right?

2020
01:40:41,209 --> 01:40:44,039
There's never anyone else that we
actually recognize the voice of.

2021
01:40:44,849 --> 01:40:45,359
Bex: Not yet.

2022
01:40:45,659 --> 01:40:47,379
Ellen: Not, not in, not
in season two anyway.

2023
01:40:47,929 --> 01:40:48,189
Bex: No.

2024
01:40:49,059 --> 01:40:52,139
Which, I mean, why don't we
get Linda answering calls?

2025
01:40:53,324 --> 01:40:54,234
Ellen: Yeah, she's around.

2026
01:40:54,334 --> 01:40:55,084
She's one of them.

2027
01:40:55,354 --> 01:40:55,984
Bex: We know her.

2028
01:40:56,084 --> 01:40:57,504
She should be answering some calls.

2029
01:40:57,504 --> 01:40:58,004
But no.

2030
01:40:58,024 --> 01:41:00,004
We're just getting random dispatchers.

2031
01:41:00,084 --> 01:41:00,514
Ellen: Mm hmm.

2032
01:41:01,164 --> 01:41:08,444
Bex: Um, so we get a 9-1-1 call to a
random dispatcher, um, that a car drove

2033
01:41:08,444 --> 01:41:10,144
through a crowd of people at a crosswalk.

2034
01:41:10,784 --> 01:41:15,214
And Rose Avenue is the location of
the, um, the incident, which must

2035
01:41:15,214 --> 01:41:19,164
be close enough, or not, because it
doesn't even matter where the location

2036
01:41:19,164 --> 01:41:21,404
is, um, for the 118 to be dispatched.

2037
01:41:21,824 --> 01:41:22,074
Yes.

2038
01:41:22,974 --> 01:41:26,829
Chim seems to have put his
captain's hat on properly this time.

2039
01:41:27,469 --> 01:41:28,799
Ellen: Yeah, he's giving the orders.

2040
01:41:29,629 --> 01:41:30,539
Bex: He is.

2041
01:41:30,859 --> 01:41:33,139
And we have John back with the 118.

2042
01:41:33,139 --> 01:41:38,849
Ellen: You know, uh, after I've
watched this one time and I still do

2043
01:41:38,849 --> 01:41:42,309
not remember John at all, it's only
because you've mentioned John that

2044
01:41:42,309 --> 01:41:44,499
I'm like, Oh, there was someone else?

2045
01:41:44,939 --> 01:41:49,929
Bex: I am so hyper focused on people
who aren't Buck, Eddie, Chim, Hen,

2046
01:41:49,929 --> 01:41:53,599
and Bobby that I notice immediately
if somebody else is in the scene.

2047
01:41:53,609 --> 01:41:56,609
Ellen: I mean, it would make sense they
needed someone to take up, you know,

2048
01:41:57,049 --> 01:42:02,899
make out the team since Bobby's not
there, but, um, yeah, I don't know.

2049
01:42:02,899 --> 01:42:04,339
Totally blanked on John, sorry John.

2050
01:42:06,409 --> 01:42:10,089
Bex: Well, to be fair, John never
actually says a word, so he doesn't

2051
01:42:10,089 --> 01:42:12,609
get his SAG card in this episode.

2052
01:42:12,609 --> 01:42:14,469
He gets his face on screen momentarily.

2053
01:42:14,469 --> 01:42:15,054
He just gets it.

2054
01:42:15,354 --> 01:42:16,464
Talked at a lot.

2055
01:42:16,604 --> 01:42:16,884
Ellen: Yeah.

2056
01:42:17,324 --> 01:42:23,214
Bex: Um, so he is triaging the
minor injuries, um, Hen and Chim

2057
01:42:23,244 --> 01:42:29,824
are off attending to a major injury
and Buck and Eddie are checking on

2058
01:42:29,824 --> 01:42:32,054
the driver who caused the accident.

2059
01:42:33,594 --> 01:42:37,524
Ellen: Yeah, and she's like,
a little bit out of it.

2060
01:42:37,524 --> 01:42:39,144
She looks like she's hit
her head or something.

2061
01:42:39,154 --> 01:42:42,044
She, you know, she didn't
see any, any of them.

2062
01:42:42,044 --> 01:42:43,034
Are they okay?

2063
01:42:43,694 --> 01:42:48,639
And, um, her neck hurts so
they're gonna try and fix her up.

2064
01:42:49,209 --> 01:42:54,449
And the lady mentions that there
was, she hit a lady and is she okay?

2065
01:42:54,819 --> 01:42:59,779
And they turn around and Buck just
looks at Eddie and goes, oh no.

2066
01:43:00,639 --> 01:43:04,669
Bex: Yeah, so Eddie's putting the c
collar on the driver and Buck is out of

2067
01:43:04,669 --> 01:43:09,629
the car at this point and he looks to
find "the lady" so that he can report

2068
01:43:09,649 --> 01:43:11,999
back to the driver, you know, she's fine.

2069
01:43:12,089 --> 01:43:17,534
They're taking care of her and
his whole body just changes and

2070
01:43:17,539 --> 01:43:19,884
Ellen: yeah, he recognizes
what's happening,

2071
01:43:20,114 --> 01:43:23,354
Bex: Eddie being so attuned
to Buck immediately realizes

2072
01:43:23,354 --> 01:43:24,944
that something has gone wrong.

2073
01:43:25,444 --> 01:43:25,624
Mm-Hmm.

2074
01:43:25,924 --> 01:43:32,314
. And he asks Buck what's happening,
and Buck just can't say anything.

2075
01:43:32,314 --> 01:43:36,964
He just looks at Eddie and Eddie
just realizes that something serious

2076
01:43:36,969 --> 01:43:40,414
has happened and just immediately.

2077
01:43:41,214 --> 01:43:44,584
starts heading down the street in
the direction that Buck was looking.

2078
01:43:45,474 --> 01:43:48,264
And Buck is trying to stop
him, trying to grab him.

2079
01:43:48,814 --> 01:43:52,064
Um, Eddie flings him off.

2080
01:43:52,964 --> 01:43:54,654
It's Chim that finally stops him.

2081
01:43:55,854 --> 01:43:56,214
Ellen: Yeah.

2082
01:43:56,214 --> 01:44:00,134
And I, like, Chim tells her, tells him
that, you know, let me handle this.

2083
01:44:00,764 --> 01:44:01,784
Eddie's like, how bad is it?

2084
01:44:01,794 --> 01:44:03,314
And I'm like, what the
hell's going on here?

2085
01:44:03,934 --> 01:44:07,984
And it's not until they get it,
they pull up to like a overhead shot

2086
01:44:07,994 --> 01:44:10,424
that I realized that it was Shannon.

2087
01:44:11,394 --> 01:44:14,214
And I'm just like, Oh no, Oh no.

2088
01:44:14,254 --> 01:44:17,424
Like Alice was saying before how
this just comes out of nowhere.

2089
01:44:17,834 --> 01:44:19,164
Bex: Completely out of nowhere.

2090
01:44:19,194 --> 01:44:19,734
Ellen: And.

2091
01:44:20,359 --> 01:44:26,069
I wasn't expecting it to happen here, but
like, I mean, in, in a way, like, this

2092
01:44:26,069 --> 01:44:28,099
is how accidents are in the real world.

2093
01:44:28,099 --> 01:44:30,509
I guess you'd never know when
you're going to be hit by a car.

2094
01:44:30,509 --> 01:44:36,879
Like, you know, it's out of the blue
always, but, um, but, oh, I mean,

2095
01:44:37,799 --> 01:44:40,649
it's true that they have been kind
of foreshadowing, like something can

2096
01:44:40,659 --> 01:44:43,019
happen the whole episode, but still.

2097
01:44:43,424 --> 01:44:45,254
Was not expecting it like this.

2098
01:44:45,414 --> 01:44:50,704
Bex: But to go from, okay, pregnancy
scare to, okay, not pregnant to, oh

2099
01:44:50,704 --> 01:44:54,304
no, we're getting a divorce to, oh no,
we're just gonna kill off your wife.

2100
01:44:54,514 --> 01:44:54,894
Ellen: Yeah.

2101
01:44:55,194 --> 01:44:57,124
Bex: It's a very dramatic,

2102
01:44:57,184 --> 01:44:58,424
Ellen: It's a big escalation,

2103
01:44:58,424 --> 01:44:59,314
Bex: unexpected turn.

2104
01:44:59,424 --> 01:44:59,704
Yeah.

2105
01:44:59,704 --> 01:45:03,124
It's a massive escalation that I
don't think anybody saw coming.

2106
01:45:03,124 --> 01:45:06,724
I don't think anybody could have
watched, um, I don't think anybody did.

2107
01:45:07,344 --> 01:45:07,624
Did.

2108
01:45:07,624 --> 01:45:10,844
I do not remember watching this
episode and going, oh, they're

2109
01:45:10,844 --> 01:45:11,744
gonna kill her at the end.

2110
01:45:11,744 --> 01:45:12,944
Yeah, that's where this is going.

2111
01:45:13,024 --> 01:45:17,984
Ellen: Yeah, and I mean it, too,
television, I guess it's under

2112
01:45:17,984 --> 01:45:21,414
no obligation to signal to you
that something like this is going

2113
01:45:21,414 --> 01:45:23,164
to happen, but they usually do.

2114
01:45:23,844 --> 01:45:28,909
It's like how storytelling kind of
works often in this kind of thing.

2115
01:45:29,329 --> 01:45:37,519
Bex: Especially for a TV show that does
rely on tropes and, um, and kind of

2116
01:45:37,519 --> 01:45:43,249
conventions, um, that you can tell what
is going to happen in an episode before

2117
01:45:43,249 --> 01:45:45,399
it happens if you are media savvy enough.

2118
01:45:45,799 --> 01:45:49,119
Ellen: Yeah, and I mean, when they do
stuff like this out of the blue, it's,

2119
01:45:49,229 --> 01:45:54,719
it's quite jarring and you realise
just how often that stuff like this is

2120
01:45:54,729 --> 01:45:56,379
signalled before it actually happens.

2121
01:45:57,369 --> 01:45:57,639
Bex: Yeah.

2122
01:45:58,299 --> 01:46:04,404
Ellen: Anyway, she's not doing that
well, um, and Eddie finally gets to

2123
01:46:04,404 --> 01:46:07,474
her side and he says, "I'm here."

2124
01:46:07,494 --> 01:46:09,704
And then she goes, "Oh God,
this is so embarrassing."

2125
01:46:09,854 --> 01:46:13,754
And I was like, oh gosh.

2126
01:46:14,214 --> 01:46:19,154
They, they get her on a board and
into the ambulance and Eddie, they

2127
01:46:19,154 --> 01:46:22,254
try to stop Eddie from going in there.

2128
01:46:23,734 --> 01:46:30,209
Um, because like, she's going downhill
and she's like, Chim says to him,

2129
01:46:30,629 --> 01:46:34,479
Eddie, if we put the tube in, there's a
good chance it'll never come back out.

2130
01:46:35,069 --> 01:46:35,869
It's just like

2131
01:46:35,999 --> 01:46:41,729
Bex: And that line, honestly, as
soon as Chim said that, I think

2132
01:46:41,739 --> 01:46:45,099
that line got kind of lodged in the
brains of everyone in the fandom.

2133
01:46:45,559 --> 01:46:50,549
And now any time we see a character
get intubated, I know that me, anytime

2134
01:46:50,549 --> 01:46:53,489
I see a character get intubated, I'm
just going, okay, cool, they're dead.

2135
01:46:54,239 --> 01:46:54,939
Ellen: Yeah.

2136
01:46:55,269 --> 01:46:58,309
Bex: Because Chim's already said,
as soon as they get intubated.

2137
01:46:58,774 --> 01:47:00,624
The intubation tube is
never coming back out.

2138
01:47:01,794 --> 01:47:04,844
It's like, it's
automatically a death wish.

2139
01:47:04,844 --> 01:47:09,204
Ellen: I mean, I already had that
association a little bit since like

2140
01:47:09,544 --> 01:47:13,364
COVID when they were saying that in
the hospitals, if people ended up

2141
01:47:13,374 --> 01:47:21,757
getting intubated, they were unlikely
to recover, which is just awful.

2142
01:47:21,757 --> 01:47:23,234
Bex: Yeah, but this was pre COVID.

2143
01:47:23,234 --> 01:47:24,594
Ellen: Yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely.

2144
01:47:24,594 --> 01:47:26,954
But like, yeah, watching it now.

2145
01:47:27,624 --> 01:47:32,554
I mean, Eddie just looks like, you
know, he's devastated, obviously.

2146
01:47:33,094 --> 01:47:36,844
But so Chim says like, "Don't put
the tube in yet, Eddie, get in

2147
01:47:36,844 --> 01:47:38,004
there and say goodbye to her."

2148
01:47:39,274 --> 01:47:42,224
So they head off in the ambulance.

2149
01:47:43,514 --> 01:47:48,194
Bex: So they're driving to the
hospital and Eddie and Shannon are

2150
01:47:48,194 --> 01:47:54,814
saying their goodbyes as Chim and Hen
basically just waiting for that moment

2151
01:47:54,854 --> 01:47:58,114
to, to jump in when things go south.

2152
01:47:58,794 --> 01:48:02,929
And Shannon is She's just,
she's, she's mumbling.

2153
01:48:03,489 --> 01:48:04,549
Uh, no, she's not mumbling.

2154
01:48:04,559 --> 01:48:07,399
She's, um, Oh, what is the word?

2155
01:48:08,069 --> 01:48:09,089
Ellen: She's rambling.

2156
01:48:09,709 --> 01:48:10,209
Bex: Yes.

2157
01:48:10,219 --> 01:48:11,189
That's the word I'm looking for.

2158
01:48:11,189 --> 01:48:13,729
She's just rambling sort of nonsensically.

2159
01:48:13,739 --> 01:48:19,039
She's, um, she's telling Eddie, uh,
you know, "I can't feel anything.

2160
01:48:19,049 --> 01:48:20,909
That, that, that's, that's
not a good sign, right?

2161
01:48:20,919 --> 01:48:23,329
And I'm, I'm leaving again.

2162
01:48:23,329 --> 01:48:24,559
I'm, I'm so sorry.

2163
01:48:24,559 --> 01:48:25,969
I wish I had more time."

2164
01:48:25,969 --> 01:48:27,729
And Eddie just tells her to be silent.

2165
01:48:30,469 --> 01:48:31,599
Ellen: I mean, he's had the training.

2166
01:48:31,599 --> 01:48:34,009
He must know what's happening.

2167
01:48:35,034 --> 01:48:37,734
He knows that there's
not much hope, you know?

2168
01:48:38,504 --> 01:48:38,634
Bex: Yes.

2169
01:48:38,634 --> 01:48:45,814
I think he's fully aware of what's
happening and he's just, he's struggling

2170
01:48:45,814 --> 01:48:50,214
to comprehend that it's happening to
Shannon and all of the complicated

2171
01:48:50,214 --> 01:48:51,854
feelings that he has about Shannon.

2172
01:48:52,674 --> 01:48:56,529
Ellen: Yeah, he just tells her that he
loves her and Christopher loves her.

2173
01:48:57,369 --> 01:49:03,469
Then the heart rate monitor
beeps and Chim and Hen dive in

2174
01:49:05,679 --> 01:49:10,179
Bex: and intubate Shannon start doing
compressions, put the the little squeezy

2175
01:49:10,179 --> 01:49:12,899
bottle to start administering oxygen.

2176
01:49:13,199 --> 01:49:17,519
But by the time we get back from the
commercial break, um, they've arrived at

2177
01:49:17,519 --> 01:49:22,159
the hospital and Shannon is, is has gone.

2178
01:49:22,449 --> 01:49:26,459
It's a, uh, it's a really interesting
way that they, they do this scene.

2179
01:49:26,459 --> 01:49:28,429
There's just, there's almost no.

2180
01:49:30,079 --> 01:49:35,939
sound from the actors or from
anything that they're doing.

2181
01:49:35,939 --> 01:49:42,239
I think it's just music, but as they wheel
Shannon out of the ambulance and into

2182
01:49:42,299 --> 01:49:48,709
the hospital, the heart rate monitor that
they've put on Shannon is sitting sort

2183
01:49:48,709 --> 01:49:53,579
of on the gurney near her legs and it
crosses the camera frame and we can just

2184
01:49:53,579 --> 01:49:56,189
see that the screen has a flat line on it.

2185
01:49:56,679 --> 01:49:58,429
So we can't hear the beep.

2186
01:49:58,809 --> 01:50:03,399
Or we can't hear the beep that would tell
us that she's flatlined, that she has

2187
01:50:03,399 --> 01:50:08,959
no heartbeat, but we can see the visual,
the visual cue that they've lost her.

2188
01:50:09,669 --> 01:50:13,279
And the rest of this scene is
just, it's all slow motion.

2189
01:50:13,909 --> 01:50:18,949
Ellen: I was watching it thinking
that Eddie's grief is so much that his

2190
01:50:19,624 --> 01:50:23,064
Slow motion effects have just affected
the whole world for a little while.

2191
01:50:24,064 --> 01:50:26,254
Like everything is in slow motion for him.

2192
01:50:26,294 --> 01:50:29,294
Except now it's not just him
struggling to put on a t shirt.

2193
01:50:29,434 --> 01:50:32,164
No, it's everyone
struggling to do everything.

2194
01:50:32,174 --> 01:50:37,684
And he's like, later, he gets
her clothing and her belongings

2195
01:50:37,704 --> 01:50:40,304
from the hospital staff.

2196
01:50:41,504 --> 01:50:45,794
And, you know, walks out into
the waiting room where the rest

2197
01:50:45,794 --> 01:50:47,334
of the 118 are waiting there.

2198
01:50:48,674 --> 01:50:49,864
And even Bobby's there.

2199
01:50:50,604 --> 01:50:53,844
And Eddie just walks up to
Bobby and gives him a hug.

2200
01:50:54,644 --> 01:50:55,634
It's like, oh, Dad.

2201
01:50:57,624 --> 01:51:01,604
And then he's like sitting on the beach
and sobbing and we're all sobbing and

2202
01:51:03,414 --> 01:51:08,524
Bex: Then at some point, um, we
start getting a voiceover of Shannon.

2203
01:51:09,569 --> 01:51:12,079
Narrating the letter that she
had written for Christopher,

2204
01:51:12,279 --> 01:51:14,369
and I guess Eddie has found it.

2205
01:51:16,109 --> 01:51:20,959
Somewhere either Shannon had it on
her or he found it at the house.

2206
01:51:21,399 --> 01:51:29,629
Um, and he is reading it on the beach
and we're hearing her and it's, it's a,

2207
01:51:29,629 --> 01:51:32,459
it's a, it's a beautiful letter to Chris.

2208
01:51:32,859 --> 01:51:38,829
Ellen: Um, perhaps, thankfully, we never
see Chris's reaction to any of this.

2209
01:51:38,889 --> 01:51:39,949
I don't know whether they

2210
01:51:39,959 --> 01:51:45,179
Bex: We kind of, we kind of
do, but it's, it's so quick.

2211
01:51:45,779 --> 01:51:50,019
Um, we see Eddie go to his abuela's
house to pick up Christopher.

2212
01:51:50,519 --> 01:51:56,179
And the implication, Eddie, um,
Chris is sitting on the porch and

2213
01:51:56,269 --> 01:51:59,669
Eddie gets down on his level and
we just see Chris's face fall.

2214
01:52:00,689 --> 01:52:04,139
And then he scoops Chris up in a hug
and I guess the implication is that

2215
01:52:04,139 --> 01:52:07,519
he's just broken the news to Chris.

2216
01:52:08,809 --> 01:52:10,989
But that's as much of
a reaction as we get.

2217
01:52:11,549 --> 01:52:14,919
I guess it's always difficult
when you've got child actors.

2218
01:52:15,099 --> 01:52:17,549
How much trauma do you really
want to put them through?

2219
01:52:18,789 --> 01:52:19,649
Ellen: Yeah, that's true.

2220
01:52:19,649 --> 01:52:20,149
Yeah.

2221
01:52:20,929 --> 01:52:24,069
Yeah, don't really you don't want
to make him cry if you don't have to

2222
01:52:25,309 --> 01:52:31,704
Bex: no Makes me think of that story of,
I think it was Shirley Temple told, that

2223
01:52:31,844 --> 01:52:34,824
if they wanted her to cry on screen they
used to tell her that her dog had died.

2224
01:52:35,054 --> 01:52:35,764
Ellen: Oh, god.

2225
01:52:35,944 --> 01:52:39,844
Bex: Just before they started rolling the
scenes, so she'd be crying over her dog.

2226
01:52:39,984 --> 01:52:42,734
Ellen: Oh, that was back when they
didn't care about like torturing

2227
01:52:42,734 --> 01:52:45,864
people on a regular basis.

2228
01:52:47,424 --> 01:52:48,444
That's just mean.

2229
01:52:49,094 --> 01:52:51,144
Bex: They're much more careful
with their child actors now.

2230
01:52:51,354 --> 01:52:52,064
Ellen: Thank goodness.

2231
01:52:52,774 --> 01:52:58,894
So yeah, it's, it's so, like, not only
do we know that, like, you know, Chris

2232
01:52:58,914 --> 01:53:03,184
and Eddie won't have Shannon now, but
it's also, you think of, like, people

2233
01:53:03,184 --> 01:53:07,214
who write letters when they've got cancer
or whatever, and they're thinking that

2234
01:53:07,214 --> 01:53:10,174
they're not going to be around for their
kid's wedding or whatever, so they write a

2235
01:53:10,174 --> 01:53:14,174
letter to explain how much they love them
and everything, and it's just, oh, that

2236
01:53:14,174 --> 01:53:17,034
makes me cry every time I think about it.

2237
01:53:17,034 --> 01:53:23,739
It's like, this beautiful letter, Um, at
least Chris will have that at some point.

2238
01:53:23,739 --> 01:53:27,209
Bex: I mean the irony was that
Shannon wrote this thinking that

2239
01:53:27,619 --> 01:53:30,429
she wasn't going to be with Chris
because she was just going to be

2240
01:53:30,429 --> 01:53:31,689
on the other side of the country.

2241
01:53:31,819 --> 01:53:32,389
Ellen: Yeah.

2242
01:53:32,419 --> 01:53:36,859
Bex: And so she's saying, like, the
letter ends with her saying that she

2243
01:53:36,869 --> 01:53:38,819
loves him even if it's from a distance.

2244
01:53:39,489 --> 01:53:39,509
Yeah.

2245
01:53:39,509 --> 01:53:42,079
And now suddenly it's not just
a physical distance, it's a,

2246
01:53:42,309 --> 01:53:43,759
like, a metaphysical distance.

2247
01:53:44,219 --> 01:53:44,559
Ellen: Yeah.

2248
01:53:45,529 --> 01:53:45,899
Alright.

2249
01:53:46,219 --> 01:53:47,199
We've done the sad part.

2250
01:53:47,199 --> 01:53:47,259
Thank you.

2251
01:53:48,219 --> 01:53:52,299
Bex: We've done the sad part,
but we're not allowed to linger

2252
01:53:52,299 --> 01:53:53,709
on the sad part though either.

2253
01:53:54,019 --> 01:53:55,039
Ellen: No, and this

2254
01:53:55,459 --> 01:53:59,219
Bex: It's like we're gonna kill Shannon,
we're gonna see Eddie be sad, and then

2255
01:53:59,219 --> 01:54:03,289
we have to Jump into the rest of the
story because there's still more to go.

2256
01:54:04,739 --> 01:54:09,039
Ellen: Yeah, I feel like maybe they could
have ended the episode with the sads and

2257
01:54:09,039 --> 01:54:11,869
then they would have slightly more impact.

2258
01:54:11,869 --> 01:54:14,599
Bex: I think it would have
had more emotional resonance.

2259
01:54:14,799 --> 01:54:15,259
Ellen: Yeah,

2260
01:54:15,559 --> 01:54:19,969
Bex: but then again Shannon didn't really
have, they never allowed her to have

2261
01:54:19,969 --> 01:54:21,609
that much of an emotional resonance.

2262
01:54:21,649 --> 01:54:27,199
So Doesn't matter where you end the
episode the audience is still not

2263
01:54:27,199 --> 01:54:30,774
gonna care for her as much as No.

2264
01:54:33,534 --> 01:54:35,204
Ellen: Well, we've got a
couple more scenes to go.

2265
01:54:35,254 --> 01:54:39,004
We've got, we've got Chim being sad now.

2266
01:54:39,484 --> 01:54:42,524
Um, he's drinking on the couch.

2267
01:54:42,524 --> 01:54:43,294
Bex: Day drinking.

2268
01:54:43,334 --> 01:54:44,144
Ellen: He's day drinking.

2269
01:54:44,144 --> 01:54:45,584
He's got a whole six pack in front of him.

2270
01:54:46,384 --> 01:54:48,314
Um, well, he's only just started, I guess.

2271
01:54:48,344 --> 01:54:50,634
Um, or, unless it's his second
six pack, which is possible.

2272
01:54:50,634 --> 01:54:51,364
Bex: His second six pack?

2273
01:54:53,414 --> 01:54:53,974
Ellen: Um.

2274
01:54:55,334 --> 01:54:59,174
Someone is banging on the door,
like, they're just not stopping.

2275
01:55:01,274 --> 01:55:04,214
Bex: It's not a couple of knocks,
it's I'm going to keep banging until

2276
01:55:04,214 --> 01:55:08,124
you get so sick of me that you have
to come open the door to stop me.

2277
01:55:08,764 --> 01:55:13,094
And I can only think of one person
who would be that obnoxious.

2278
01:55:13,274 --> 01:55:14,324
And it is indeed Hen.

2279
01:55:15,784 --> 01:55:18,904
I love that Chim opens the door so
she stops knocking, takes one look

2280
01:55:18,904 --> 01:55:20,264
at her and then just walks away.

2281
01:55:20,694 --> 01:55:24,324
Ellen: Yes, uh, she just
wanted to see if he was okay.

2282
01:55:24,324 --> 01:55:24,394
Okay.

2283
01:55:26,214 --> 01:55:27,604
And he's like, "I'm fine.

2284
01:55:27,644 --> 01:55:32,074
I'm not the one with the dead wife
or any wife, which is probably good.

2285
01:55:32,074 --> 01:55:34,524
Cause I was pretty cool with
letting Eddie's just die."

2286
01:55:34,534 --> 01:55:36,494
It's like, that's not
what happened to come up.

2287
01:55:37,904 --> 01:55:38,884
Bex: And hen calls him on that.

2288
01:55:38,884 --> 01:55:42,584
She's like, "To put it quite
bluntly, Shannon was already dead.

2289
01:55:43,174 --> 01:55:45,104
Her brain just didn't realize it yet."

2290
01:55:46,144 --> 01:55:46,484
Ellen: Yeah.

2291
01:55:46,484 --> 01:55:49,944
It's awful that Chim thinks that he
was responsible for this, but, um,

2292
01:55:51,204 --> 01:55:57,204
but of course he does because he
is most likely having flashbacks to

2293
01:55:57,264 --> 01:56:00,919
Kevin and other people he's lost.

2294
01:56:01,889 --> 01:56:02,559
Bex: Oh my God.

2295
01:56:02,559 --> 01:56:04,409
I didn't even think about Kevin.

2296
01:56:04,939 --> 01:56:05,349
Ellen: Yeah.

2297
01:56:06,099 --> 01:56:06,599
Yeah.

2298
01:56:06,619 --> 01:56:08,949
Poor Chim is going through it as well.

2299
01:56:08,959 --> 01:56:09,279
So.

2300
01:56:09,879 --> 01:56:16,919
Bex: So not only has he lost someone,
but he lost someone under his command.

2301
01:56:17,649 --> 01:56:18,699
So it's even worse.

2302
01:56:18,969 --> 01:56:19,489
Ellen: Yeah.

2303
01:56:19,939 --> 01:56:24,729
But then they have like a, a bit of
a, Hen kind of props him up by saying

2304
01:56:24,729 --> 01:56:29,029
that she knows that she's given him
some grief over being the captain.

2305
01:56:29,939 --> 01:56:30,449
And.

2306
01:56:32,089 --> 01:56:35,629
Chim goes, "I have been a little
on the insufferable side," and she

2307
01:56:35,629 --> 01:56:36,699
goes, "You've been a nightmare."

2308
01:56:36,759 --> 01:56:38,639
I'm like, Jesus, Hen, I thought
you were trying to make him

2309
01:56:38,639 --> 01:56:39,929
feel better about things.

2310
01:56:40,999 --> 01:56:41,359
No.

2311
01:56:41,999 --> 01:56:42,549
Bex: Tough love.

2312
01:56:44,549 --> 01:56:48,819
Ellen: He wants, she wanted to see him
succeed, but, and then Chim's like,

2313
01:56:48,839 --> 01:56:49,989
"You didn't think I could do it."

2314
01:56:52,649 --> 01:56:55,629
Bex: And then she says,
"No, I knew you could do it.

2315
01:56:56,369 --> 01:57:00,289
But my fear was once you realized that you
could do it, you would never want to come

2316
01:57:00,289 --> 01:57:02,769
back to just being a paramedic with me."

2317
01:57:04,519 --> 01:57:08,839
That's, this is the same person who,
Chim comes up with a brilliant save

2318
01:57:08,839 --> 01:57:11,989
in the chocolate factory and she
immediately goes, "You called Bobby."

2319
01:57:12,004 --> 01:57:13,864
So she didn't think that he could do it.

2320
01:57:13,864 --> 01:57:14,534
Ellen: Yeah, that's right.

2321
01:57:14,544 --> 01:57:17,914
She's got a funny way of showing that
she thinks he could actually do it,

2322
01:57:19,124 --> 01:57:21,534
because it's quite clear earlier in the

2323
01:57:21,534 --> 01:57:21,539
Bex: episode.

2324
01:57:21,539 --> 01:57:24,204
Once again Henrietta Wilson
is the menace of the 118.

2325
01:57:25,514 --> 01:57:28,384
Ellen: She says one thing, but she
does exactly the opposite thing.

2326
01:57:30,044 --> 01:57:34,594
But he does, Chim says that he misses her
and he misses being in the ambulance, but

2327
01:57:36,484 --> 01:57:39,844
Bex: Misses having no responsibility.

2328
01:57:40,354 --> 01:57:40,554
Ellen: Yeah.

2329
01:57:41,534 --> 01:57:43,514
Oh, it's so hard being the captain.

2330
01:57:44,384 --> 01:57:45,484
But anyway, that's it.

2331
01:57:46,344 --> 01:57:48,624
Hen says it, you're still my best friend.

2332
01:57:49,684 --> 01:57:51,504
So, they have a beer together.

2333
01:57:51,514 --> 01:57:54,044
Bex: I do like that, I
do like their friendship.

2334
01:57:54,344 --> 01:57:55,754
They are very cute together.

2335
01:57:56,664 --> 01:57:58,124
Ellen: Chaos twins, for sure.

2336
01:58:00,354 --> 01:58:06,144
And then we've got, Bobby and Athena
are going to look at a wedding venue.

2337
01:58:06,594 --> 01:58:11,904
They're at a very nice hotel, but they
decide that it's not really appropriate

2338
01:58:11,944 --> 01:58:17,289
or, you know, they're not, their heart's
not in it today to look at wedding

2339
01:58:17,299 --> 01:58:19,889
venues when Eddie's planning a funeral.

2340
01:58:20,589 --> 01:58:26,609
Bex: So Athena calls off checking
out the hotel, um, and to make Bobby

2341
01:58:26,619 --> 01:58:29,729
feel a little bit better about it
she says they're probably not hotel

2342
01:58:29,729 --> 01:58:31,539
ballroom kind of couple anyway.

2343
01:58:33,394 --> 01:58:35,704
So Bobby asks, "What
kind of couple are we?

2344
01:58:35,704 --> 01:58:38,444
Are we a backyard barbecue kind of couple?

2345
01:58:38,444 --> 01:58:40,614
Are we a destination
wedding kind of couple?"

2346
01:58:40,974 --> 01:58:46,904
Um, but Athena doesn't answer because
she's distracted by the news report

2347
01:58:46,904 --> 01:58:52,574
playing on the television about
a package bomb that's exploded.

2348
01:58:52,954 --> 01:58:56,304
Ellen: And it's not the place
that they were at earlier

2349
01:58:56,304 --> 01:58:57,604
that day or the previous day.

2350
01:58:57,604 --> 01:58:58,164
No, it's

2351
01:58:58,164 --> 01:59:01,674
Bex: not the bomb that, um,
that Athena was investigating.

2352
01:59:02,324 --> 01:59:04,094
It's a different one.

2353
01:59:04,434 --> 01:59:08,934
So even though Bobby is not captain
of the 118 anymore, his automatic,

2354
01:59:09,014 --> 01:59:14,804
um, diagnostic skills have turned
inwards to automatic detective skills.

2355
01:59:14,804 --> 01:59:23,394
Because Athena says, uh, two male bombs
in one week, that's not a coincidence.

2356
01:59:23,394 --> 01:59:25,184
And Bobby goes, that's a serial bomber.

2357
01:59:25,974 --> 01:59:26,984
Just getting started.

2358
01:59:29,474 --> 01:59:31,474
Ellen: By their powers
combined, they're solving crime.

2359
01:59:31,474 --> 01:59:33,709
Again.

2360
01:59:33,709 --> 01:59:35,944
Again.

2361
01:59:36,924 --> 01:59:38,144
Bex: Ah, here we go.

2362
01:59:39,714 --> 01:59:47,204
So, like, the summary was talking
about, like, the promo summary, was

2363
01:59:48,304 --> 01:59:50,154
Athena investigating a mail bomb.

2364
01:59:50,734 --> 01:59:53,404
Ellen: Yeah, but this is the
extent of the investigation, right?

2365
01:59:53,974 --> 01:59:57,144
Yeah, she doesn't, they, she just
shows up on the scene of the first one.

2366
01:59:57,144 --> 01:59:58,544
She doesn't investigate anything.

2367
01:59:59,294 --> 02:00:04,754
Bex: No, and then she and her soon to be
husband just decide that it's going to be

2368
02:00:05,094 --> 02:00:08,394
something that they're gonna investigate
in the last few seconds of the episode.

2369
02:00:08,894 --> 02:00:09,824
Ellen: Yeah, that's weird.

2370
02:00:09,864 --> 02:00:13,874
Bex: So like this, this entire episode
feels like a filler episode to me.

2371
02:00:14,984 --> 02:00:19,539
Ellen: Yeah, maybe, um, And they,
they've like, collected all the bits

2372
02:00:19,539 --> 02:00:23,169
of story that they needed to have
in season two to wrap things up.

2373
02:00:23,359 --> 02:00:30,029
Like, uh, Maddie having her
crisis over leaving the call

2374
02:00:30,029 --> 02:00:32,129
centre, and like, Shannon.

2375
02:00:33,319 --> 02:00:37,369
Bex: It's, like, it's story threads that
the writers decided that they needed to

2376
02:00:37,369 --> 02:00:41,679
tie off, but they weren't story threads
that naturally seemed to be there.

2377
02:00:41,809 --> 02:00:42,239
Ellen: Yeah.

2378
02:00:42,759 --> 02:00:43,039
Yeah.

2379
02:00:43,069 --> 02:00:48,239
Bex: Like, I don't, from having watched
season two up to this point, I don't

2380
02:00:48,239 --> 02:00:51,909
feel that there was a Maddie thread
dangling that needed to be dealt with.

2381
02:00:52,439 --> 02:00:53,759
Ellen: No, we could have dealt with it.

2382
02:00:54,069 --> 02:00:58,799
Like you say, we could have explored
it more, like, in season three, maybe,

2383
02:00:58,809 --> 02:01:04,009
if they had room for it, but it didn't
have to be shoehorned into this episode.

2384
02:01:04,009 --> 02:01:07,779
Bex: They could have started a
little bit earlier, like right after

2385
02:01:08,754 --> 02:01:11,744
she came back, um, from Big Bear.

2386
02:01:13,214 --> 02:01:17,894
Instead of going, instead of having
that episode where she gets back to

2387
02:01:18,394 --> 02:01:23,124
9-1-1 and everything goes to shit, and
she realizes that she is an awesome

2388
02:01:23,124 --> 02:01:27,774
dispatcher, um, who remembers how many
San Vicentes there are in Los Angeles.

2389
02:01:27,984 --> 02:01:28,424
Ellen: Yeah.

2390
02:01:29,464 --> 02:01:33,194
Bex: We could have started the, the
crisis of confidence from there.

2391
02:01:34,734 --> 02:01:38,334
Um, and Shannon was definitely
not a thread that needed

2392
02:01:38,394 --> 02:01:40,054
to be tied off like this.

2393
02:01:40,654 --> 02:01:40,954
Ellen: No.

2394
02:01:41,809 --> 02:01:43,849
Justice for Shannon, totally.

2395
02:01:43,889 --> 02:01:45,839
Bex: Absolutely justice for Shannon.

2396
02:01:46,539 --> 02:01:50,869
It just, it also feels like the
previous couple of episodes have all

2397
02:01:51,489 --> 02:01:53,409
dovetailed into each other nicely.

2398
02:01:54,039 --> 02:01:54,409
Ellen: Yes.

2399
02:01:54,979 --> 02:02:00,249
Bex: So you started with Broken where
we got the introduction of Marty um,

2400
02:02:00,379 --> 02:02:05,049
which then led into, so "Broken", we
got the broken truck which introduced

2401
02:02:05,049 --> 02:02:08,269
Marty who was the protagonist
that came back in "Oceans 9-1-1".

2402
02:02:08,649 --> 02:02:08,919
Ellen: Yep.

2403
02:02:09,249 --> 02:02:14,139
Bex: Um, and then which
then kicked Bobby out.

2404
02:02:15,059 --> 02:02:19,149
Which we then got "Bobby Begins", sort
of a story, we got the introduction of,

2405
02:02:19,559 --> 02:02:25,129
um, what happened when Bobby was first
in Los Angeles, and his and Athena's

2406
02:02:25,139 --> 02:02:26,839
first foray as detectives together.

2407
02:02:26,839 --> 02:02:29,589
Ellen: Yeah, yeah, that's right.

2408
02:02:31,419 --> 02:02:34,789
Bex: So they, all of these episodes
flow in nicely, and then all of a

2409
02:02:34,789 --> 02:02:37,969
sudden it just comes to a bit of
a screeching halt in this episode.

2410
02:02:38,289 --> 02:02:40,459
Ellen: Yeah, and they just
tack on the end a bit of a

2411
02:02:40,459 --> 02:02:42,209
cliffhanger with this bomb thing.

2412
02:02:42,309 --> 02:02:46,254
Bex: Yes, which then will
flow into the next episode.

2413
02:02:47,574 --> 02:02:48,464
It's a little clumsy.

2414
02:02:49,374 --> 02:02:51,694
This episode feels like The
Half Blood Prince to me.

2415
02:02:55,244 --> 02:02:56,624
It's The Half Blood Prince.

2416
02:02:56,624 --> 02:03:01,114
It's such a filler book in the series
that you can, like, very easily

2417
02:03:01,114 --> 02:03:03,654
just not have it in the series.

2418
02:03:03,654 --> 02:03:06,564
Just go straight through and keep
going through the Deathly Hallows.

2419
02:03:06,704 --> 02:03:07,004
Ellen: Yeah.

2420
02:03:08,504 --> 02:03:09,294
Yeah, I see that.

2421
02:03:09,294 --> 02:03:09,614
Yeah.

2422
02:03:11,084 --> 02:03:14,154
Yeah, well, yeah, I mean there was
nothing, nothing happened in this

2423
02:03:14,154 --> 02:03:19,454
episode that we really needed to know.

2424
02:03:19,694 --> 02:03:20,614
Like, even,

2425
02:03:22,714 --> 02:03:29,694
even, like, okay, Shannon's death was
extremely tragic and we probably, we

2426
02:03:29,694 --> 02:03:31,104
would have preferred it didn't happen.

2427
02:03:31,694 --> 02:03:35,604
But at the same time, is it, like
you said, it's not that important

2428
02:03:35,614 --> 02:03:41,224
to Eddie's story in general, like it
doesn't further his motivation or like

2429
02:03:41,724 --> 02:03:44,754
Bex: I mean, you, like you compared it
to Supernatural and the first thing I

2430
02:03:44,784 --> 02:03:46,724
thought of was Charlie in the bathtub.

2431
02:03:46,974 --> 02:03:49,074
Ellen: Oh my god, that
still makes me so mad.

2432
02:03:49,889 --> 02:03:54,819
Bex: Which was a literal example
of fridging because it was Dean's

2433
02:03:54,819 --> 02:03:59,439
motivation to then, you know,
continue his reign of terror.

2434
02:03:59,779 --> 02:04:03,619
Ellen: Yeah, but we cared, we cared a
lot, like, we had a lot more Charlie.

2435
02:04:03,619 --> 02:04:04,349
Bex: But we also cared about Charlie.

2436
02:04:04,349 --> 02:04:07,779
Ellen: We loved Charlie because she
was a fully fleshed out character

2437
02:04:07,779 --> 02:04:12,429
that we'd seen several times before in
whole episodes, not just now and then.

2438
02:04:13,189 --> 02:04:17,099
Bex: And she had, she was a
character who had a storyline that

2439
02:04:17,099 --> 02:04:20,249
was not connected to Dean or Sam
or any of the other characters.

2440
02:04:20,259 --> 02:04:21,629
She was her own person.

2441
02:04:22,309 --> 02:04:27,667
Um, whereas I do not feel

2442
02:04:27,667 --> 02:04:29,849
Ellen: Yeah, Shannon's
very two dimensional.

2443
02:04:29,849 --> 02:04:33,629
Bex: She's very two dimensional and
I don't Like, I could understand if

2444
02:04:34,074 --> 02:04:40,744
there was a storyline that coming up
where Eddie sought revenge for, um, the

2445
02:04:40,744 --> 02:04:44,844
person who killed Shannon, or he went
and did this because of what happened

2446
02:04:44,844 --> 02:04:48,424
to Shannon, but that's not what happens.

2447
02:04:50,324 --> 02:04:55,384
Whatever storyline they had in play
for Eddie, they decided we don't need

2448
02:04:55,384 --> 02:04:57,804
a wife lingering on the sidelines.

2449
02:04:57,974 --> 02:04:58,144
Ellen: Yeah.

2450
02:04:58,144 --> 02:04:59,574
We don't need Shannon anymore.

2451
02:04:59,574 --> 02:05:00,584
What should we do with her?

2452
02:05:01,094 --> 02:05:03,474
Bex: She's just, she's a
problem because we can't.

2453
02:05:04,489 --> 02:05:11,249
It's like we can't have our sexy leading
man having romantic storylines and if

2454
02:05:11,249 --> 02:05:16,649
we have him have a wife somewhere, even
an ex wife somewhere because there's

2455
02:05:16,649 --> 02:05:19,529
always going to be the, Oh, will they,
won't they get back together even if

2456
02:05:19,529 --> 02:05:22,159
they got divorced possibility out there.

2457
02:05:22,159 --> 02:05:25,039
So we just need to get rid of her once
and for all, so that we can have him

2458
02:05:25,039 --> 02:05:28,809
completely unencumbered to, you know,
hook up and have sexy times with all of

2459
02:05:28,809 --> 02:05:32,919
our, um, all of the beautiful women that
they're going to bring onto the cast to

2460
02:05:32,949 --> 02:05:37,659
have beautiful sexy times with Eddie Diaz,
except they kind of forgot that this is

2461
02:05:37,699 --> 02:05:44,069
Eddie Diaz menace to woman, womankind,
um, who only has eyes for his best friend.

2462
02:05:45,389 --> 02:05:49,489
Ellen: So, so what, are you saying that
he's got like the Sam Winchester curse

2463
02:05:49,489 --> 02:05:52,339
where like his penis causes death like?

2464
02:05:52,339 --> 02:05:56,751
Bex: Oh, I am not, I am
not going to say that.

2465
02:05:56,751 --> 02:05:59,104
Ellen: Okay, don't spoil me.

2466
02:06:00,284 --> 02:06:04,454
Bex: Oh no, poor Eddie!

2467
02:06:06,834 --> 02:06:07,364
Poor Sam!

2468
02:06:11,064 --> 02:06:11,824
Ellen: Poor Sam.

2469
02:06:14,584 --> 02:06:15,464
So cursed.

2470
02:06:17,024 --> 02:06:17,144
Bex: Not,

2471
02:06:19,154 --> 02:06:19,404
no.

2472
02:06:21,064 --> 02:06:25,054
It's so hard, I want to talk to
you so much about this, but I

2473
02:06:25,054 --> 02:06:28,414
can't say anything because I'm
just going to spoil everything.

2474
02:06:29,224 --> 02:06:30,944
Ellen: All right, you
can tell me another time.

2475
02:06:31,234 --> 02:06:31,714
Later.

2476
02:06:32,769 --> 02:06:35,269
Bex: We will, we will put a pin in
this conversation and we will come

2477
02:06:35,269 --> 02:06:37,929
back in like, what, nine months?

2478
02:06:37,979 --> 02:06:41,209
Do you reckon we can get through
four more seasons in nine months?

2479
02:06:41,219 --> 02:06:41,989
Ellen: Oh my god.

2480
02:06:46,509 --> 02:06:48,469
We're going to have to start
watching multiple episodes a

2481
02:06:49,399 --> 02:06:50,579
week if we're going to do that.

2482
02:06:51,519 --> 02:06:54,169
Bex: Yeah, I don't think
that's possible, but oh my god.

2483
02:06:56,489 --> 02:06:59,349
Ellen: You and Alice can scream about
it in the, uh, spoiler channel later.

2484
02:07:01,144 --> 02:07:04,654
Bex: I mean, I've already screamed about
it with, um, Lucia and Nell on their,

2485
02:07:04,674 --> 02:07:06,754
the Totally Normal About That podcast.

2486
02:07:06,754 --> 02:07:08,864
But yes.

2487
02:07:11,224 --> 02:07:15,334
I am perfectly willing and able
to scream at length about Eddie

2488
02:07:15,334 --> 02:07:16,944
Diaz to anybody who will listen.

2489
02:07:18,624 --> 02:07:20,624
Ellen: Well, I'm not sure I'm
looking forward to finding out

2490
02:07:20,624 --> 02:07:24,894
more about this, but I will be
excited to find out more about this.

2491
02:07:28,354 --> 02:07:31,954
Alright, well, anything else you
want to say about this episode?

2492
02:07:33,659 --> 02:07:35,959
I just don't know what they,
like, we did, we said we were

2493
02:07:35,959 --> 02:07:37,079
going to come back to theme.

2494
02:07:37,089 --> 02:07:43,919
I don't really know what they were
aiming for in this because like people

2495
02:07:43,919 --> 02:07:48,269
got what they wished for, but then it
turned out to be the worst thing ever.

2496
02:07:48,609 --> 02:07:52,829
And, but, but it, what it didn't have,
that didn't happen across the board.

2497
02:07:52,839 --> 02:07:55,299
Like some people didn't
get what they wanted.

2498
02:07:55,329 --> 02:07:56,099
And I don't know.

2499
02:07:57,549 --> 02:08:01,389
Bex: I think that we are both like
media savvy and intelligent enough

2500
02:08:01,389 --> 02:08:04,039
that we could dig down and we could.

2501
02:08:04,309 --> 02:08:10,419
Find some kind of thematic link for
all of the storylines to the theme

2502
02:08:10,419 --> 02:08:14,749
of wishing and being careful what you
wish for and wishes being horrible.

2503
02:08:14,749 --> 02:08:16,469
But I don't think that we should have to.

2504
02:08:16,469 --> 02:08:20,459
I think that if they're going to do
a thematic episode, it needs to be a

2505
02:08:20,469 --> 02:08:26,259
little bit more, maybe not as blatantly
obvious as like the Karma's a Bitch

2506
02:08:26,259 --> 02:08:33,364
and the Awful People of episodes of
9-1-1, but it needs to be If you're

2507
02:08:33,364 --> 02:08:36,624
going to do a thematic episode, you
need to at least give your audience a

2508
02:08:36,624 --> 02:08:41,164
fighting chance to recognize and find
the themes and find the connections.

2509
02:08:41,704 --> 02:08:44,144
Uh, cause I'm struggling with this one.

2510
02:08:44,524 --> 02:08:44,744
Ellen: Yeah.

2511
02:08:44,744 --> 02:08:48,314
It's kind of like we, we could probably
dig around and find something, but

2512
02:08:48,364 --> 02:08:52,734
did the writers actually think about
that at all when they were writing?

2513
02:08:52,744 --> 02:08:53,324
Bex: Exactly.

2514
02:08:53,324 --> 02:08:57,054
We may be ascribing intention
and motives to them that they did

2515
02:08:57,054 --> 02:08:58,354
not have when they were writing.

2516
02:08:59,744 --> 02:09:01,364
It's just, this one's a mess.

2517
02:09:01,414 --> 02:09:06,169
This one is not one that I enjoy watching.

2518
02:09:06,769 --> 02:09:10,099
Ellen: No, I mean, yeah, like I
said before, there is definitely

2519
02:09:10,179 --> 02:09:11,679
definite sections to it.

2520
02:09:11,679 --> 02:09:16,129
Like I, I love the section with
Bobby giving advice to everybody.

2521
02:09:16,219 --> 02:09:17,014
I thought that was really quite funny.

2522
02:09:17,014 --> 02:09:20,044
Bex: I really do.

2523
02:09:20,084 --> 02:09:26,114
I mean, I was joking about it being
a feeling like one person wrote

2524
02:09:26,114 --> 02:09:28,584
one part and folded over the piece
of paper and handed it around.

2525
02:09:28,864 --> 02:09:32,594
But I really wonder if this was a
joint effort in the writer's room.

2526
02:09:32,644 --> 02:09:35,084
Ellen: Yeah, well, it's
tonally quite different.

2527
02:09:35,204 --> 02:09:35,794
Like,

2528
02:09:35,874 --> 02:09:38,654
Bex: there are all of these little
sections that each of these,

2529
02:09:38,704 --> 02:09:40,844
the different writers in the
writer's room had come up with.

2530
02:09:40,864 --> 02:09:41,244
And.

2531
02:09:41,394 --> 02:09:45,224
I think the writer for this
episode is Matthew Hodgson.

2532
02:09:45,264 --> 02:09:48,554
I wonder if he's just the guy that
they said, okay, Matt, put everything

2533
02:09:48,554 --> 02:09:49,704
together and make it one episode.

2534
02:09:49,714 --> 02:09:50,554
Ellen: Yeah, here's my bit.

2535
02:09:50,844 --> 02:09:53,264
Uh, you try and make it all make sense.

2536
02:09:53,994 --> 02:09:56,404
Bex: Yeah, put all of these
together into one episode and

2537
02:09:56,414 --> 02:09:58,034
you've just gone, Oh, fuck, okay.

2538
02:09:58,574 --> 02:10:04,784
Um, I think like I, if you said to
me, the lottery scene was written

2539
02:10:04,784 --> 02:10:08,674
by Kristen, and then this scene over
here was written by someone else, and

2540
02:10:08,684 --> 02:10:11,104
that scene over there was written by
someone else, I would believe you.

2541
02:10:12,564 --> 02:10:16,159
Ellen: Yeah, well, I totally, when
the lottery scene sort of, you know,

2542
02:10:18,159 --> 02:10:23,699
And there was the guy who fell out of the
sky and like the saying the episode title.

2543
02:10:24,529 --> 02:10:25,899
I was like, did Kristin write this?

2544
02:10:25,899 --> 02:10:27,539
Because kind of feels like it.

2545
02:10:28,519 --> 02:10:29,909
Bex: But Kristin wrote the first part.

2546
02:10:29,909 --> 02:10:34,679
I'm going to say, um, Juan Carlos Cotta
wrote the, the Bobby family therapy scene.

2547
02:10:35,219 --> 02:10:38,424
He seems really good at those, kind of
slightly humorous, cutting backwards

2548
02:10:38,424 --> 02:10:40,164
and forwards between multiple scenes.

2549
02:10:40,164 --> 02:10:46,844
I, I'm so, I'm just so fascinated by
the inside baseball of writers rooms

2550
02:10:46,844 --> 02:10:48,224
and how episodes get put together.

2551
02:10:48,224 --> 02:10:53,734
I, I cannot wait for like the oral history
of 9-1-1 and how it all got put together.

2552
02:10:54,584 --> 02:10:56,974
I want to see the sausage
get made of this one.

2553
02:10:56,974 --> 02:10:58,024
I'm fascinated by that.

2554
02:10:59,084 --> 02:11:01,594
We still have one more episode
to get through for this season.

2555
02:11:01,614 --> 02:11:02,374
Ellen: Yes.

2556
02:11:02,374 --> 02:11:04,544
What's, what's going to
happen in the finale?

2557
02:11:05,254 --> 02:11:09,104
Well, not, you know, what does
the summary say for this finale?

2558
02:11:09,984 --> 02:11:14,104
Bex: Well, the first responders suspect
a serial bomber is on the loose.

2559
02:11:15,054 --> 02:11:15,354
Ellen: We knew that.

2560
02:11:15,364 --> 02:11:17,264
Bex: Which we kind of knew
because Bobby told us that.

2561
02:11:19,434 --> 02:11:24,914
Um, but the full summary says that
the 118 responds to calls from a...

2562
02:11:26,574 --> 02:11:30,484
Oh, good lord, somebody went
crazy with the puns in this one.

2563
02:11:31,434 --> 02:11:31,894
Okay.

2564
02:11:32,944 --> 02:11:33,284
Sorry.

2565
02:11:33,404 --> 02:11:37,044
Uh, the 118 responds to calls from
a stunt driver caught in a hairy

2566
02:11:37,044 --> 02:11:43,734
situation, a teenage social influencer
is bugging out, and the city is on high

2567
02:11:43,734 --> 02:11:45,644
alert after two mail bombs gone up.

2568
02:11:45,684 --> 02:11:50,284
Meanwhile, Eddie's family comes to town
and Buck faces a life or death situation.

2569
02:11:50,814 --> 02:11:51,174
Ellen: Oh,

2570
02:11:53,314 --> 02:11:53,634
okay.

2571
02:11:54,504 --> 02:11:59,474
So I'm expecting lots of like
angst, um, like Eddie angst.

2572
02:11:59,474 --> 02:11:59,494
Bex: Okay.

2573
02:12:00,104 --> 02:12:05,684
Little, little bit of eddy angst,
lots of tension, grab your tissues.

2574
02:12:06,334 --> 02:12:06,744
Ellen: Okay.

2575
02:12:07,304 --> 02:12:07,484
More tissues?

2576
02:12:07,494 --> 02:12:11,254
Bex: I've yet to make, I have
met, yet to make it through

2577
02:12:11,254 --> 02:12:12,794
this episode without crying.

2578
02:12:13,374 --> 02:12:13,894
Ellen: Okay.

2579
02:12:15,034 --> 02:12:15,414
Bex: Yeah.

2580
02:12:16,344 --> 02:12:19,814
I mean, that doesn't say much because
I'll cry at almost anything, especially

2581
02:12:19,814 --> 02:12:21,444
if the musical cue is correct.

2582
02:12:21,604 --> 02:12:21,944
Yeah.

2583
02:12:22,034 --> 02:12:29,074
Um, but this episode, especially
every single time I watch it, I cry.

2584
02:12:30,264 --> 02:12:30,694
Ellen: Okay.

2585
02:12:30,694 --> 02:12:31,184
Good to know.

2586
02:12:31,184 --> 02:12:33,504
I'll make sure I've got the tissues handy.

2587
02:12:34,744 --> 02:12:42,754
Bex: So the triggers for next week,
we have bad parenting, a car accident,

2588
02:12:43,174 --> 02:12:49,294
a crush injury, there is going to
be an on screen funeral, um, we

2589
02:12:49,294 --> 02:12:52,764
have gore, specifically a scalping.

2590
02:12:54,324 --> 02:12:59,574
Um, we have bugs, so if you are
insect averse, probably don't

2591
02:12:59,574 --> 02:13:05,374
watch this, and children at threat
due to a unknown serial bomber.

2592
02:13:06,284 --> 02:13:06,494
Ellen: Nice.

2593
02:13:06,494 --> 02:13:06,544
Thanks.

2594
02:13:07,344 --> 02:13:12,074
Interesting combination, Serial
Bomber and like, funeral stuff.

2595
02:13:12,874 --> 02:13:13,334
Like,

2596
02:13:15,354 --> 02:13:16,044
heavy sadness and

2597
02:13:16,044 --> 02:13:21,464
Bex: But the funeral, I mean, we have
just lost a character, so I guess it makes

2598
02:13:21,464 --> 02:13:22,934
sense that there's gonna be a funeral.

2599
02:13:23,204 --> 02:13:30,114
Ellen: Yeah, but like we, yeah, we just
Yeah, I'll, I'll hold my thoughts until

2600
02:13:30,164 --> 02:13:34,764
after I've seen the episode, I guess,
but it's just a strange combination of,

2601
02:13:35,604 --> 02:13:40,214
Bex: um, yeah, yeah, it's like,
you know, the hairy situation and

2602
02:13:40,214 --> 02:13:43,264
the, the bugs and, oh yeah, we're
going to have a funeral as well.

2603
02:13:43,284 --> 02:13:43,814
Yeah.

2604
02:13:45,454 --> 02:13:45,704
Ellen: Yes.

2605
02:13:45,704 --> 02:13:46,094
All right.

2606
02:13:46,104 --> 02:13:53,844
Well, um, please do pour out all of your
troubles to us in a message or tell us

2607
02:13:53,894 --> 02:13:57,024
what you thought of Shannon's story.

2608
02:13:58,244 --> 02:14:00,484
Send us a DM on our social media.

2609
02:14:00,484 --> 02:14:04,824
You can send us an emails,
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2610
02:14:04,844 --> 02:14:10,224
com or put comments directly on
the episode post or in Spotify.

2611
02:14:11,244 --> 02:14:13,454
No, I don't think you can
leave comments in Apple yet.

2612
02:14:13,464 --> 02:14:14,224
So don't do that.

2613
02:14:14,744 --> 02:14:20,244
Um, Spotify also send us your feedback
for season two altogether, and we will

2614
02:14:20,244 --> 02:14:24,844
be very happy to read it all out in our
wrap up episode, which is only a couple

2615
02:14:24,844 --> 02:14:26,774
of weeks away when you're hearing this.

2616
02:14:27,434 --> 02:14:28,144
How exciting.

2617
02:14:28,604 --> 02:14:29,334
We're nearly there.

2618
02:14:31,524 --> 02:14:33,514
Uh, we will say a goodbye from Alice

2619
02:14:35,654 --> 02:14:42,234
and we will see you next time for episode
18, which is called "This Life We Choose".

2620
02:14:42,254 --> 02:14:42,854
See you then.

2621
02:14:43,584 --> 02:14:44,014
Bex: Bye!

2622
02:14:44,664 --> 02:14:51,004
Ellen: 9-1-1 is a fictional show,
but many of the situations portrayed

2623
02:14:51,014 --> 02:14:52,294
happen in the real world too.

2624
02:14:52,804 --> 02:14:55,474
If any of the topics we've discussed
in this episode have affected

2625
02:14:55,474 --> 02:14:57,064
you, please know you're not alone.

2626
02:14:57,704 --> 02:15:00,124
You can call or text numbers
in your country for help.

2627
02:15:00,154 --> 02:15:03,054
Just google Crisis Support
in your location to find out.

2628
02:15:04,154 --> 02:15:07,354
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2629
02:15:07,434 --> 02:15:09,674
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2630
02:15:10,244 --> 02:15:13,824
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2631
02:15:13,844 --> 02:15:14,044
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2632
02:15:23,424 --> 02:15:26,374
Bex: I feel like, what's
that episo what is that movie

2633
02:15:26,624 --> 02:15:29,094
with Jake Gyllenhaal where he

2634
02:15:29,424 --> 02:15:30,084
Alice: Brokeback Mountain?

2635
02:15:30,814 --> 02:15:32,224
Bex: No, no, not Brokeback Mountain.

2636
02:15:32,234 --> 02:15:33,984
The one where he, like, creates

2637
02:15:34,334 --> 02:15:36,504
Alice: Not the one with the
gay fire yeah, sorry, my bad.

2638
02:15:38,834 --> 02:15:43,269
Bex: Uh, we can just My brain's not
working, we can cut all this bit out.

2639
02:15:43,269 --> 02:15:45,559
But there's like, there is an,
there's a movie with Jake Gyllenhaal

2640
02:15:45,559 --> 02:15:48,024
where I think he's a journalist
or something, and he goes out and

2641
02:15:48,024 --> 02:15:48,199
Alice: Donny Darko.

2642
02:15:48,969 --> 02:15:50,879
Bex: Uh, journalist.

2643
02:15:51,099 --> 02:15:55,149
Alice: Oh, not a weird kid
with an imaginary friend.

2644
02:15:55,159 --> 02:16:01,469
Bex: No, but he, he like, does
crime so that he can report on it.

2645
02:16:01,659 --> 02:16:02,279
Alice: "All too well".

2646
02:16:02,609 --> 02:16:03,789
No, that's Taylor Swift.

2647
02:16:03,849 --> 02:16:04,659
No, never mind.

2648
02:16:05,949 --> 02:16:08,909
Bex: I feel like Athena is, like,
going at it, like, setting mail

2649
02:16:08,909 --> 02:16:12,029
bombs and doing all of this shit so
that she can be first on the scene.

2650
02:16:12,619 --> 02:16:13,699
Ellen: Oh, she's doing it on purpose.

2651
02:16:14,629 --> 02:16:15,429
Bex: Yeah, she's doing it on purpose.

2652
02:16:16,159 --> 02:16:17,299
You can cut all of that.

2653
02:16:17,839 --> 02:16:19,759
I was actually gonna
Just stay in the episode.

2654
02:16:19,819 --> 02:16:22,729
Alice: I was gonna make a joke
about, like, oh, you mean Spider Man

2655
02:16:22,729 --> 02:16:25,029
Far From Home, and then I'm like,
wait, that's kind of what he does

2656
02:16:25,029 --> 02:16:26,549
in Spider Man Far From Home, though.

2657
02:16:29,439 --> 02:16:31,179
Bex: It's like Night Stalker or something.

2658
02:16:31,179 --> 02:16:31,429
Alice: Nightcrawler?

2659
02:16:32,969 --> 02:16:33,789
Bex: Yes, nightcrawler.

2660
02:16:34,459 --> 02:16:35,249
Alice: I was googling.

2661
02:16:36,109 --> 02:16:37,569
Bex: Yeah, so was I.

2662
02:16:37,999 --> 02:16:40,229
Although I've switched to Duck,
Duck, Go and I don't like it.

2663
02:16:41,949 --> 02:16:44,739
Ellen: Welcome back to That WeeWoo
Show, a podcast where we watch and

2664
02:16:44,739 --> 02:16:47,419
discuss episodes of the ABC show 9-1-1.

2665
02:16:47,819 --> 02:16:48,489
I'm Ellen.

2666
02:16:50,379 --> 02:16:51,179
Alice: I'm Alice.

2667
02:16:53,079 --> 02:16:53,939
Bex: And I'm Bex.

2668
02:16:54,539 --> 02:16:55,489
What the fuck was that?

2669
02:16:55,709 --> 02:16:57,309
Ellen: Alice, did you
just drop your microphone?

2670
02:16:57,309 --> 02:17:01,202
Alice: I was trying to move
it and I expected Bex to

2671
02:17:01,202 --> 02:17:02,669
say her name and she didn't.

2672
02:17:02,669 --> 02:17:03,609
So I was like, um, shit.

2673
02:17:04,939 --> 02:17:06,269
Ellen: Would you like
to say your name again?

2674
02:17:16,914 --> 02:17:17,774
Bex: I always go last.

2675
02:17:17,774 --> 02:17:19,784
Alice: I know, but I was
moving my microphone.

2676
02:17:19,964 --> 02:17:22,134
So I was hoping you'd take the
hint somehow through telepathy.

2677
02:17:22,134 --> 02:17:26,577
Bex: I do not, no.