3.16: The One That Got Away

Welcome to That Weewoo Show: a podcast where Alice, Ellen, and Bex watch and discuss every episode of ABC’s TV show, 9-1-1.

In this episode we discuss episode 16 of the third season of 9-1-1, titled “The One That Got Away”.

The 118 fights an apartment building blaze; Athena’s response to an accident leads to a more sinister crime; Hen performs a risky medical procedure; Buck meets a retired firefighter and is inspired to reunite him with his lost love.

Content warnings for episode 3.16:

discussion of cancer, a character with dementia, a deaf woman at threat, home invasion, medical gore involving a lot of blood, a minor character death, patient death due to medical error, sexual violence.

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Episode Transcript

Maddie: [00:00:00] 9-1-1, what’s your emergency?

Bex: Welcome back to That WeeWoo show, a podcast where we watch and discuss episodes of the A B C show, 9-1-1. I’m Bex,

Alice: I’m Alice.

Ellen: And I’m Ellen.

Bex: Thank you to everyone who has been listening to our episodes and who have shared our social media posts, rated us on Spotify, Apple podcasts, or your podcatcher of choice. We really do appreciate it.

This week’s shout outs go to Dee on Spotify who informed us that yes, at least in New England, uh, middle school students do start rotating their classes. And Ginger, who left a comment on the “Taking of Dispatch 9-1-1” episode to educate us on the [00:01:00] logic behind LA’s ridiculously long street numbers.

Um, so thank you to Dee and Ginger for educating the Australians about the inner workings of the US. We, we, we appreciate you.

Ellen: I think Ginger’s actually in the UK, correct me if I’m wrong, Ginger. You will, I’m sure. But had looked it up after watching a different show.

Bex: I don’t particularly care where the people are from as long as we’re, I’m getting edu-macated about stuff.

Ellen: Yes, thank you. Thank you for letting us know about it.

Alice: We love all our northern hemispheres and some of the southern hemispheres, I guess

Ellen: all of them too.

Bex: So before we get into this week’s episode, which is episode 16, Alice, could you give us a refresher about what happened in episode 15?

Alice: Uh, yeah. So last week on 9-1-1, Eddie was buried alive while rescuing a child from a well, and we dove into his life before moving to LA and the origin of his silver star.

[00:02:00] Uh, Hey guys, did you know Eddie has a silver star?

Bex: And he’s never done anything illegal?

Ellen: So we’re told.

Alice: Nothing illegal.

Ellen: Okay.

Bex: One day that will make sense to you, Ellen, we promise.

Ellen: Yeah.

Alice: In like two years, Ellen’s gonna be like, oh my God. And be the Leo DiCaprio meme where he’s pointing at the tv. It’s like, that’s gonna be,

Bex: that’s why they kept saying it.

Ellen: Yeah. Meanwhile, in the past, this episode, we’re up to season three, episode 16, which is called “The One That Got Away.”

Um, this one first aired in April, April 27th, 2020, which in fact is today as we are recording, uh, five years ago today.

Alice: Oh, there you go.

Bex: Yeah. Look at us being up to date again. Little bit of synchronicity going on there.

Ellen: Up to date, but five years previous. So the summary for this episode says, the 118 fights an apartment building blaze and attempts a daring rescue of a [00:03:00] woman.

In the summary, it says blind, but she’s actually deaf. Whoops. Um, I, I’m not sure why they would’ve changed that, like after, anyway, we can talk about that later when we get to that part. They attempted daring rescue of a deaf woman trapped inside. When Athena responds to a simple accident call, she discovers a potentially more sinister crime.

Meanwhile, Hen performs a risky medical procedure after an accident at a televised cooking show, and Buck meets a retired firefighter and is inspired to re reunite him with his lost love. Wow. That’s quite a mouthful that summary. Um, there’s a lot going on in this episode.

Bex: Yes.

Ellen: So triggers include for this episode an apartment building fire.

Uh, I think we’ve worked out last week that these were all out of order. And I’m…

Bex: oh yeah, they’re all over the place.

Ellen: Not gonna try and put them in order on the fly because I can’t do that. Um, so cancer, uh, a character with dementia, a deaf woman at Threat [00:04:00] Home Invasion, medical gore involving a lot of blood. A minor character death, and a patient death due to medical error, uh, which is not shown on screen, but still happens. And we have sexual violence and or in the form of rape.

Alice: Um, so you know that feeling when you are like just minding your own business and you’re like, pretty sure I’ve forgotten something. You are like, oh, if it was important, I’d remember, it’s fine. And then you sit down 20 minutes before recording the episode of the podcast for that week and realize you haven’t watched the episode.

Um, yeah, I don’t relate to that at all. That totally did not happen tonight. Um, no idea what…

Bex: at least.

Ellen: I’m sure it’ll all come back to you.

Bex: At least it was you, Alice. It would be much, much worse if it had been Ellen who has never seen the series before.

Ellen: Yeah, I have. I’ve seen, I’ve seen this episode in a total of one time.

Bex: You and I kind of have like vague memories that we can fall back on [00:05:00] in a pinch.

Alice: Yeah.

Ellen: Yeah.

Bex: Ellen does not have that.

Ellen: Uh, right.

Well let’s get going and then we’ll see how much of it comes back to you in the, you probably saw this very beginning, but, we have a, an apartment building that is on fire and it, this opening scene is extremely chaotic.

Bex: Yeah. We arrive right in the middle of it. Yeah. There’s no lead up. There’s no 9-1-1 call.

The episode opens and the building is ablaze and there are multiple units responding, trying to put out the fire.

Ellen: There are, there are lots of trucks there. There are. They’ve got their ladders up. There’s people with their, the hoses out. Everything’s happening.

Alice: I… people with their hoses out.

I was very excited to see them actually fighting a fire again, because I don’t even remember the last episode they went near a fire.

Ellen: Yeah, that’s true. It’s, it’s been all, um, uh, it’s, there’s been a lot of medical emergencies, but like, um, [00:06:00] it’s been all character drama lately rather than actual, there hasn’t been a lot of like firefighting going on, right?

Alice: No.

Bex: I seem to remember seeing a tweet or a post something somewhere that, um, I. That’s rather realistic though for firefighters. They, most of their call out are, yeah, they don’t do many fires, medical emergencies and things like that. Fires are the exception rather than the rule.

Ellen: Yeah.

Bex: Which is ironic considering they are firefighters.

But anyway, um, the 118 are inside the building searching for residents to evacuate them. Well, Bobby, Eddie and Buck are inside, I’m assuming Hen and Chim are I think inside as well, but we don’t see them at this point.

Ellen: It’s pretty scary. They’re like knocking on doors and yelling for people and then hacking apart doors that they can’t, that, that are locked and they can’t open.

Bex: Uh, which is probably a good thing because when Buck gets to a door that he [00:07:00] literally needs to, um, kick in, uh, oh no, he doesn’t kick it. He uses his ax. Of course he does. Um, you know, king of just property destruction. Yeah. Um, they find an elderly man in the bathroom on the floor.

Ellen: Yeah. He’s got blood all underneath him, but he’s, he’s awake. Like when they ask him, are you hurt? Um, he says, “I dunno, I can’t get up.”

Bex: It’s very Monty Python. “I’ve fallen and I can’t get up.” Yeah. But much more, much more serious.

Ellen: But yes, he does have blood all over him. So, you know,

Bex: so, um, Bobby and Eddie are working to get the man stable so that they can transport him. Uh, the man his name is Anton is more worried about Gladys, but unfortunately he passes out before he can tell anybody who Gladys is.

So Eddie makes the assumption that it might be a cat or [00:08:00] a dog, and so Buck is sent on the search of the almost completely engulfed apartment for a cat or a dog.

Ellen: And then they get the call over the radio that the building is unstable, so everyone has to get out. So yes, Bobby says like, “Let’s go, let’s get him downstairs.”

He says to Buck, who’s still searching around the apartment, “Let’s go, let’s go.”

Alice: Buck’s still looking for the cat and calling for the cat

Ellen: Buck’s, like he actually finds a cat and grabs it and they get out of there

Bex: and we cut to Dispatch where Maddie gets a 9-1-1 call but it’s not your an ordinary 9-1-1 call.

It is a TTY call, which is a tele typewriter, which is used by, uh, Deaf and Hard of Hearing people to make telephone calls. Um, and the caller tells Maddie that they are trapped in a fire, which turns [00:09:00] out to be the exact same location that the 118 are already at.

Ellen: Yeah. So we can assume this is Gladys.

I mean, I didn’t realize that this was Gladys until later when they get reunited. Um, I mean, I should have worked it out from the, the fact that it was right after the guy had been saying, calling for Gladys. But

Alice: I worked out when, like in the next scene when he is like, “that’s not, that’s not Gladys.” I was like, oh, no.

Ellen: Yeah.

Bex: I think it, it, it was slightly confusing in that I don’t, do not think that Gladys and Anton were in the same room. So you could have kind of, you could be forgiven for thinking that they were like two completely separate incidents.

Yeah. And not that.

Alice: It’s definitely like a, a good misdirect.

Bex: Yes.

Ellen: Yeah. So while, uh, Gladys is typing in her address into [00:10:00] the thing, they, they cut the sound out. So you’re basically hearing, you know nothing, which is amazing. Really very effective.

Bex: It is very effective. They do that a few times when we’re seeing things from Gladys’s point of view.

Ellen: And then we, yeah, get back down to the front door. So we know that 579 Atwater is the address that she’s put in. And then we see that actual address written on the front of the building.

Bex: So they get Anton to the paramedics, Buck, reunites him with Gladys and Anton is like, “That’s that, that’s Hoover. I’m so glad you found Hoover. But that’s not Gladys.” And at that very moment, Bobby gets a call from Maddie over the radio that he, that, she has a Deaf woman trapped in an apartment and everybody looks up to see glass falling out the window as Gladys has thrown something at the window to smash it. And Buck is the one [00:11:00] who puts two and two together and says, “Oh, that’s Gladys.”

I don’t know that breaking the glass was necessarily the best idea though.

Alice: I mean, I think it’s to show which apartment it is.

Bex: Oh, no, no. I can, I a hundred percent agree that it’s like for the dramatic effect, it’s also so that they could see It’s just that smashing the window creates like oxygen coming into the room, which would feed fire.

Alice: Yeah. Which can feed the fire. Yeah.

Ellen: It makes the fire bigger. Yeah.

Alice: Um, but what, what window did she break? Because Buck smashes through the window later.

Bex: Yeah, I think there’s two windows.

Alice: Why wasn’t she near the open one?

Bex: I don’t know, for dramatic effect? So that Buck can smash it.

Alice: For the drama.

Bex: It’s for the drama. Remember, everything’s for the drama. Um, so at the reveal that the deaf woman up on the 10th floor is Gladys, we go to the title card. When we come back, we’re still at 5 7 9 Atwater. And they have a [00:12:00] slight problem in that the ladders don’t reach up to the 10th floor and the firefighters can’t go up the stairs inside the building to get to her either.

Alice: Yeah. Um, but the building next door is not on fire. And the rapelling kit has 150 feet of rope.

Bex: Buck’s got the thinking cap on today.

Ellen: I, I love this though, like, Eddie’s just like, “You wanna do a rope rescue? Of course you do.”

Alice: Of course you do.

Ellen: Of course you do.

Bex: Literally. But it’s, it’s, it’s even better ’cause like he’s throwing up his hands going like, of course you do. Your ridiculous person. And Bobby’s just looking at him going, well, he is not gonna do it alone.

Ellen: Someone’s gotta help him out.

Bex: You’ve gotta go do it too. And Eddie’s face has just gone from like, oh, that is such a what? You want me to what?

Alice: Fucking Buck. What an idiot. What do you mean I’m going too?

Ellen: They’re gonna tell Gladys, he goes, please inform the resident that we’ll be [00:13:00] descending from the roof through her window. And Gladys is just curled up on the floor. She’s like, not dealing,

Bex: she is not paying any attention to her machine.

Ellen: No.

Bex: I don’t know if the machine is still functional at this point, but not

Ellen: Oh she looks so terrified.

Bex: Maddie is not telling her anything. So while Gladys is curled up in a corner panicking, um, Hen is trying to treat Anton and she discovers that aside from the injuries he sustained in the fire and the whatever happened to him in the bathroom, he is like sick for another reason, and she must have the, the magic, the magic helmet that allows you to diagnose things on the fly because after hearing that, he has, um, abdominal tenderness, he’s been nauseous for days. He’s been urinating a lot, and he’s been chugging antacids for quite a while. She says that he’s got an undiagnosed [00:14:00] thyroid condition that has caused an excess of calcium in his blood.

Ellen: Mm-hmm.

Bex: Like how?

Ellen: Yeah, okay. If you say so.

Bex: Where, where in paramedic school would they teach you that?

Alice: The underdiagnosed thyroid condition section, obviously. Um, look, honestly, I’ve been watching a lot of House lately. I’m pretty sure hen just also watches House. Surprised she didn’t, but well, she wasn’t like, oh, feels like lupus.

Bex: Anton doesn’t care about any thyroid conditions. He just wants to know that they’re gonna get Gladys and Hen tells him not to worry that they’ve got their best boys on it. And then we cut to the best boys, best boys who have run sped run up to the top of the building next to 579 Atwater, and then parkour their way over.

And I’m [00:15:00] once again, amazed at how close they build buildings.

Ellen: Yeah.

Bex: ’cause I’m, I’m not discounting that that was like the feats of athleticism required to jump from one building to another. But the fact that they were able to do that and there wasn’t any of this like teetering on the edge ’cause the jump was just that little bit too far.

Those buildings must be hella close.

Alice: Yeah, right. It’s crazy. Like the jump was so, CGI though,

Bex: No, let me live, lemme live in the delusion that Ryan and Oliver actually got to do. Like maybe not jumping across actual buildings, but they set up styrofoam blocks on a green screen.

Ellen: Yeah, they might have had a set.

Bex: Had a jump from a styrofoam block to another.

Ellen: It looked like a real jump. I mean, I only watched it one time, so maybe, but

Bex: look, if they let them ride on top of an actual fire truck, surely they’d let them jump from one styrofoam block to another. Oh, I’m sure they jumped on something. Yeah.

Alice: Oh no, it definitely wasn’t super far up.

Bex: [00:16:00] Oh, no, no, no, no insurance company in the world would be like…

Ellen: unlikely to be the actual buildings.

Bex: …hey, we’ve got these two actors, we’re gonna take them up to the top of two buildings and we’re gonna make them, like multiple times jump from one building to the next. Yeah. No, no.

Ellen: But yes, they, Eddie starts to lower Buck down ’cause he’s got a, you know, he’s, they’re hooked up to each other so that he can lower him down kind of thing. And everyone else is watching from the ground with their phones in the air because of course you do.

Bex: Yes.

Ellen: Uh, and then. Like Buck sort of drops to the, to the 10th floor and looks in the window and Gladys is about to smash the window with a chair.

Like she, she notices him thankfully, and like jumps backwards kind of thing.

Alice: Doesn’t throw a chair at Buck.

Ellen: That could have been unfortunate.

Bex: It’s very dramatic because, um, he is abseiling down and then he uses his feet to push back off the building [00:17:00] to gain momentum and you can hear the crowd like gasp underneath, like, oh my God, he’s swinging out. Why is he swinging out? Is everything okay?

Ellen: It’s, it’s the maneuver.

Bex: But no, it’s just a. It’s just to build up speed so we can complete the maneuver.

I do love that like Bobby is watching just because he needs to make sure buck’s. Okay. Shi is just watching on like nodding approvingly like, sir, you have never been allowed to do the maneuver. How would you know if he’s doing it correctly or not?

But then we get another, when Buck crashes through the apartment, we get the second, um, section where there is no audio. We get it all from Gladys’s point of view.

Ellen: Yeah. He says something to her and you know, she’s watching his mouth move. So hopefully she understands what’s happening, but he does also point to the harness that he has in his hands.

So she gets the drift and

Bex: yeah, I got the feeling that she gets the drift as he sort of points at himself and points at her and points at the harness and she’s like, [00:18:00] oh, okay. That’s what’s going on.

Ellen: Yeah,

Bex: but it works. She gets up, she comes over to Buck, he literally stripes it to his chest. Um, they climb out the window and Eddie starts lowering them down.

Ellen: Yeah. Eddie’s still standing on the top roof of this building that’s on fire. It’s like, um, dude,

Bex: well not for much longer. The behind him, the roof collapses.

Alice: Um, yeah, the roof literally vanishes and he’s just like, “Cap, the roof’s gone.”

Bex: And so Eddie has to leave the same way he arrived. He secures Buck, make sure that Buck’s got control of the ropes, and then jumps his way back across the other building.

Ellen: Mm-hmm.

Alice: Um, it’s interesting though because Bobby yells out to two firefighters, um, to secure the airbag and it’s Mitchell and Sanchez, and I didn’t think that Sanchez was a member of the 118, but apparently he is.

Bex: Maybe he transferred.

Ellen: Who’s [00:19:00] Sanchez? Have we seen him before or is this from…

Bex: I was about to say, I’m just gonna open up my, um, my little tracker of all the 118 members.

Alice: So Sanchez…

Ellen: You’re so organized man. It’s great.

Alice: Sanchez is in season eight.

Ellen: Oh, okay.

Alice: And I didn’t think he was in it until then.

Bex: What’s this tracker? Oh no, that’s all the vehicles destroyed by the 118. That’s not the tracker I want. Wrong tracker. There is another. Anyway, yes. So Mitchell and Sanchez are, they are getting the, the airbag deployed, uh, just in case.

Okay. We have, I get to add more firefighters ’cause we have never met Mitchell or Sanchez before, so there we go.

Alice: Okay, cool. So we haven’t met Sanchez. I’m not crazy.

Bex: No,

Ellen: I don’t remember Sanchez. So, no, but that doesn’t mean anything because I never remember any of the people that we only see one time.

Alice: I literally only remember Sanchez because they’re in season eight. I don’t [00:20:00] remember Mitchell, but I definitely remember Sanchez.

Bex: Mm-hmm. Well, anyway, they are there and they are getting the airbag deployed, which is a good thing because as the airbag is being deployed and as Buck is slowly lowering himself down, the fire erupts out of one of the apartments above him, smashing the windows, a big fireball.

It’s all very dramatic. Um, has the slight consequence of setting his rope on fire.

Ellen: Yeah. What are the chances? So he starts hurrying up. Um, but he’s not, he’s like, “I don’t think we’re gonna make it.”

Bex: Yeah. It’s, it’s, will he get down safely before the rope, um, fully burns through? Or is he, is the rope gonna burn through first?

Ellen: But thankfully when the rope does burn, burn through and they fall, uh, they land on the airbag and they’re fine. Whew.

Bex: Very dramatic [00:21:00] rescue though. Yes.

Alice: There’s a lot of gasps from the crowd as well. It’s great. Yes.

Ellen: Yep. And Gladys says thank you. And she’s reunited with Anton and that’s the point where I was like, oh, that’s right. He said, that’s

Bex: so Wow. Okay. So you

Ellen: completely, no, I must, I must’ve worked it out earlier when, um, like when he said when the cat, when when the cat was not Gladys. Anyway, it was a very dramatic, um, opening scene and

Bex: it was very dramatic.

Ellen: It got to this part and let out a sigh of relief kind of thing.

Bex: Yes. Sort of chill out a little bit now, um, Hen can’t though, ’cause she’s still gotta handover Anton at the hospital, which she does. We see the 118 arrive at whichever hospital they get to, and she wheels Anton in and she’s reeling off all of his stats and the doctor’s like, “Yeah, okay, cool. We got it. We’re, [00:22:00] you know, absolutely smashed right now, but we got it.”

And Hen’s like, “No, no, no, no. You need to listen to me because I am a paramedic with the magical ability to diagnose somebody just by looking at them. And you need to make, I’m gonna give you all these orders.” And again, has her viewing of House and Grey’s Anatomy and all of the medical shows. Like where in para paramedic school, would she know what tests to order?

Alice: Yeah, I have no idea. House

Ellen: 12 lead EKG

Bex: to look for an “arrhythmia associated with hypercalcemia.” Where in the paramedic textbook does it teach you that, uh,

Alice: paramedics that are listening?

Bex: Yes, please.

Alice: I have a friend who’s the firefighter paramedic. I should ask her.

Bex: Yes.

Ellen: Uh, well the rest of them, apart from Hen and Chim, are back at the, um, they’re in the locker room.

Bex: They’re there too. They’re all there.

Ellen: Oh. Oh, they are too. Oh no. This is not the guy that Hen goes to. I thought Hen was, [00:23:00] you know, holding onto the guy’s aorta here.

Bex: Oh no, this is later

Ellen: That’s later. Okay.

Bex: This is the one that, this is why she ends up pinching the aorta. Because she doesn’t trust the doctors anymore after what happens to poor Anton.

But we’ve gotta get through date night first. So everyone’s back at the 118, Buck is riding the high of his amazing dramatic rescue and he wants to go out and celebrate.

Ellen: Oh, he’s so happy.

Alice: He’s so happy. My little golden retriever.

Bex: He wants to go to a bar with the loaded fries and he is like, “The first round is on me.” But unfortunately everybody else on the 118 has plans.

Ellen: Yeah.

Bex: Christopher is actually hosting a sleepover at Eddie’s house. It’s not that he’s going to somebody else’s house for sleepover. ’cause um. Fun fact, Ellen. Christopher never sleeps at Eddie’s house in fan fics. He’s always over to sleepover, which I think is just a device to get [00:24:00] Chris out of the house so that Buck and Eddie can get it on,

Ellen: Right.

Bex: But it’s nice to see that Chris is reciprocating by allowing people to come to his house for a sleepover for once.

Ellen: Oh yeah. The poor guy. He’s having a bunch of nine year olds for a sleepover like that. Sounds like hell, but, okay, good, good for Chris.

Bex: Do you think that, ’cause remember the last time Chris had a sleep, went to a sleepover, Eddie pretty much handed over a binder full of instructions.

Ellen: Yeah.

Bex: Um, do you think he got that in return from any of the parents or they’re like, if you can, if you can handle Christopher, you can handle my kid.

Alice: Maybe. Well, it’s because it’s a, like higher needs school, isn’t it? So Yeah, probably.

Bex: I have no idea.

Ellen: Maybe, I’m sure. I’m sure he can handle it.

Bex: It just tickles my fancy that, you know, some parent shows up at the door with like a three ring binder full of telephone numbers and medication,

Alice: An even bigger binder

Bex: protocols. And you know, I know

Alice: it’s just like, shit, I have to make a bigger binder and it’s just bigger [00:25:00] binders all the way down.

Bex: And Eddie’s just looking at this woman going, I’m a paramedic. I think I know how to administer an EpiPen. Yeah. But anyway, what I do like is that, um, everybody else is, everybody’s got plans.

Um, everybody leaves, but Eddie does invite Buck to come to the sleepover with him. Like it’s not, you know, loaded fries at a bar, but you can come and hang with me and Christopher and a bunch of nine year olds,

Ellen: but everyone else has got date night, so they don’t want him.

Bex: Yeah. Like Buck’s going like, “oh, cool. It’s date night. Have date night at the bar with me,” and yeah. Uh, all three of them are like, um, okay, that’s not exactly the date night.

Alice: I’ll do, I’ll volunteer. I’ll, yep. What?

Bex: And we know you would, but apparently that’s not Karen’s idea of a fun date night

Alice: or Athena’s. Um, and a

Bex: Bobby, Bobby and Athena don’t want their son third wheeling their date.

And uh, as Chim says, Buck is not the [00:26:00] Buckley that he was looking forward to spending his night with.

Ellen: Yeah, he’s fine.

Bex: And so one by one, they leave until Buck is left in the locker room alone.

Ellen: Oh. Poor Buck. He says like, “Okay, Buckley, I guess will celebrate alone.” Like, oh, now you’re talking to yourself. ’cause all your buddies have left.

So Buck actually does go though. He does take himself out.

Bex: He does go out the bar.

Alice: He does actually go out.

Bex: I would’ve just said, fuck it and gone home. But no, he, I guess for the storyline purposes, he has to go out. I don’t know if it’s the same bad though.

Alice: We’re also older than Buck currently is, so yes. Remember having, like being young and having energy?

Ellen: No, that was way too long ago now.

Alice: I don’t think I was ever young and had energy.

Bex: Anyway. Yes, Buck goes to a bar. I, I don’t know if it is the bar that he wanted to go to, but it looks like it’s a, um, a first responder bar. [00:27:00]

Ellen: Yeah. Is it the one that has the karaoke?

Bex: It does not. Do you really think that Red would be the kind of guy to go to the bar that does karaoke?

Alice: I think it’s just not karaoke night.

Ellen: Yeah. They might, you might just, just have karaoke on one or two nights. Like, I think

Alice: they only go to one bar, but I think it, um, it’s just not karaoke night.

Ellen: It might be a different one, who knows? But

Bex: who knows? I was not paying close enough attention to the set.

Ellen: An older gentleman is sitting at the bar and watching the tv, which is showing, uh, Buck’s Rescue, like the, you know, him rescuing Gladys,

Bex: which is literally just the footage footage that the, like a, the, um, the, a crew shot.

They didn’t even like doctor it to make it look like it was shot by a news camera. It’s literally just the same footage.

Alice: Of course they didn’t, these are the same people that use screenshots as family photos and it’s just like, who took that photo? There was no one else there.

Ellen: They did that in Supernatural too. It always made me laugh.

Alice: [00:28:00] They did do it in Supernatural. It’s like, was it, um, I’m pretty sure there’s like a shot from like, the Endverse episode in one of them, and it’s just like, how the fuck? That was an alternate dimension. How did you get this photo?

Ellen: Yeah. Yeah. How did this photo end up in? Yeah. Anyway.

Uh, physics, um, yeah, so Red, see, like this guy’s name is Red, we find out later or in a little bit. But he sees Buck rescuing someone on TV and goes, “Idiot.” And, and Buck’s like, “Excuse me?” And he tells him that he’s stupid, basically. But Buck realizes that he used to be a firefighter and then Red’s like, “I’m still a firefighter. Just ’cause you retire doesn’t mean you forget who you are.”

So they introduce themselves to each other and, um, he buys offers to buy Buck a drink, even though he still thinks he’s an idiot. So he had recognized him. I [00:29:00] wasn’t sure that he rec actually recognized him from the footage until he actually said like, how did he recognize Buck from the footage?

I don’t know. But because in in, he’s got like a helmet on and everything, and yeah.

Alice: Magic

Ellen: For the drama, he recognised him,

Bex: for the drama, yes.

Alice: Uh, so to be fair, they were probably like, “firefighter Buckley does it again,” and he’s like “this fucking idiot,” and then turns around and he is like “this fucking idiot.” .

Bex: Uh, so we see them a little bit later. They have, uh, moved to a booth. There are many, many bottles of beer on the table in front of them. And it sounds like that Red has been, um, telling Buck Wall stories about his time as a firefighter, which doesn’t have the happy ending. The Buck thinks it’s gonna be because he asks Red whether he still sees his old crew.

And, uh, he doesn’t. Long story short, they are pretty much [00:30:00] all dead.

Ellen: He said at, at first, we, we kept in touch, like they had barbecues and parties and then, then there were Christmas cards and emails. And yeah, the only thing they get together about nowadays is when one of them is dead. So that’s very sad and, and unfortunately true.

Like, I dunno about the dead part, but the, uh, you know, people you went to school with, for instance, gradually drift apart over the years, you know, unless, unless they’re like your BFFs and you never do that, which is great.

Alice: Yeah. I don’t speak to anyone that I went to school with, but I do have one friend who I knew while we were both in high school, we went to different high schools.

Mm-hmm. But yeah, I knew one person I still speak to regularly, um, that I knew from back when I was a teenager.

Ellen: Yeah. It happens.

Bex: I guess it’s a thing where the people that you’re friends with in high school, you are literally friends because by virtue the fact that you are in the same place at the same time, [00:31:00] um, yeah, you might, there’s, that’s, that’s the thing that binds you together.

And once you no longer have that, you kind of realize that maybe they’re not the kind of person that you would’ve been friends with anyway, so

Alice: Yeah, they’re proximity friends. It’s like work friends.

Bex: Yes.

Alice: Like you have people that you talk to every day and you’re like, oh, these people are cool. And then you leave that workplace and you’re like, yep.

Never spoken to them again. Yeah.

Ellen: It’s sad, but it’s the way, it’s, it’s the way of things. Um, and so Buck’s asking him, he has any grandkids, he always, but Red always thought he’d, he’d get around to having kids, but it just never happened. He was too busy with work, basically

Bex: “too consumed with the firehouse and being the best in saving lives.”

And at this point I’m like, oh wow. We’re just, we’re really hammering, we’re really going for the, uh, the comparison between the two of them right now, aren’t we?

Ellen: Mm-hmm.

Alice: It’s about as subtle as a brick wall [00:32:00] in this scene.

Bex: So while, uh, buck is having deep and meaningful conversations with Red. Bobby and Athena, uh, on their date night, they’re very sweet,

Ellen: but at home.

Bex: They are. Well, I, I have a feeling that the date night is going to involve other things that you possibly couldn’t be doing at a restaurant or at a bar. So, you know, being starting it at home makes perfect sense.

Ellen: Yeah.

Bex: They’re slow dancing in the living room, and I always think it, I always find it really funny when they have Bobby and Athena dancing. It just, it, it’s, it’s sweet, but it’s not something that like, um, that I ever remember doing, like just dancing in the living room. Maybe I’m not whimsical enough,

Alice: not romantic enough.

Bex: Apparently not,

Alice: not in love enough.

Ellen: I have to say I don’t think I’ve ever done that either, but unless it was, uh, like [00:33:00] to make the kids go, “ew!” Which does happen sometimes

Alice: I dance with my dogs, but it’s not slow dancing. It’s like, yeah,

Bex: well there’s no chance of any kids going Ew, for Bobby and Athena.

Because Athena very pointedly mentions that their house is silent because there are no kids. Except then there’s a knock on the door.

Ellen: Bobby’s like, “You gotta be kidding.”

Alice: They jinxed it for sure.

Bex: And it might not be one of their kids, but it’s still someone,

Ellen: it’s one of their kids

Bex: It’s, it’s kind of one of their kids. ’cause it’s Hen and I, I did love Athena. Um, Bobby’s like, “no, I’ve gotta go answer the door.” And Athena’s like, “Okay, just don’t open it all the way. ’cause if you open it all the way, whoever it is is gonna want to come inside.” So he, he only opens it a crack Hen just like wedges her body into that crack and pushes through.

She, she’s like, she’s coming in.

Alice: Yeah. I mean, to be, there’s no stopping Hen we know this.

Bex: Oh [00:34:00] yeah.

Ellen: Well she, she’s like, I tried. She’s quite flustered though. She’s upset.

Bex: I tried to call you, but both of your phones were off. It was going straight to voicemail and then she looks around and realizes why it was going straight to voicemail.

Alice: Look, she knew that they were having date night and she’s still just like, no, I’m pushing in. It’s fine.

Ellen: Yeah, I’m going to go over there and tell them in person.

Alice: But the thing is she also has like, it’s also date night for her and she left Karen in the car.

Bex: Yeah. Yeah. They were on their way to the restaurant and, and hen’s gone like, Nope, we need to like do a, we need to swing by Bobby and Athena’s first.

Alice: Yeah. I need a debrief right at this very second

Bex: because she heard a report on the news that there was a fatality from that fire that they just attended. And it’s the guy that she took to the hospital

Ellen: and Bobby identifies him as the guy with the cat. It was like [00:35:00] he also had a wife who was rescued by, well, I assume that she’s his wife. Um,

Bex: I have no idea

Ellen: in the most dramatic fashion, but anyway, yeah, the guy with the cat

Alice: Lesbian housemate, who knows?

Bex: They had a lavender marriage. Um, so Bobby goes off to make a call and Hen is distracted enough to, um, like, comment on how Bobby and Athena go all out for date night and says that, you know, “Me and Karen, we just, you know, we go to Mexican.”

Ellen: Yeah, they’ve got all these candles on the table and stuff like, it’s very,

Bex: it’s very romantic.

Ellen: It’s very romantic. Yeah.

Bex: To be fair, this is both of their second marriages. So I have a feeling that you try a little bit harder in your second marriage.

Ellen: Hen’s like, she notices there’s a, there’s flowers on the table. So she pulls out her phone and she’s like, “What time do florists close?”

Bex: Athena’s like, “No, no, no, no. Google jewelry. You gotta think [00:36:00] bigger.” Flowers aren’t gonna cut it.

Ellen: Just a moment of lightheartedness before, um, we go back to the drama.

Bex: Yes. Because Bobby returns and informs Hen that Anton’s official cause of death was cardiac arrest.

At which point Hen is just absolutely in disbelief because she’s like, I knew, like I knew that something was wrong. I’ve got that magical.

Ellen: I had the helmet, for God’s sake,

Bex: yes. She’s, she just starts ranting. She’s like, you know, “What is the point in rescuing these people and treating them and getting to the hospital if when they get to the hospital they just, they’re gonna die.”

And Bobby’s trying to reassure her and said like, “Hen you did your job.” And she’s like, “Well, too bad nobody else did theirs.”

Ellen: Yep. I would’ve thought that, um, she’d been in this job long enough to realize that this happens sometimes, right?

Bex: Yes. But we need this to set up the next storyline, [00:37:00] so,

Ellen: yeah. Yeah.

Bex: But it’s just, it’s really interesting that not only have, like when the show started, it was, “we don’t go past the glass doors” and now suddenly we’ve gone like through the glass doors and now we’re like deeply invested in the diagnosis, like all the way into the operating theater.

Ellen: Oh, we’re into the operating theater. God,

Bex: I have a feeling date night’s ruined. So, yeah. Poor Karen.

Ellen: But, um, like Buck’s having a great date night now. Because he’s, he’s gone, he’s gone home with Red.

Bex: But like I said, I think he’s invite once again, he’s invited himself home with red.

Ellen: Yeah. He’s looking, he is taking him home to make sure he gets home okay.

Bex: Yes.

Ellen: That’s the reason. But I just thought it was funny that he’s like going up to the door and I’m like, Ooh, Red’s taken Buck home. Yeah. Um, anyway, yeah, [00:38:00] Buck sees a photo on the wall that, um, has a bunch of firefighters in it and he said, “This is them, right? This is your house.” And yeah, that’s all of the 1 34. And he tells him all about, like, red tells him all their names and stuff.

Bex: And then God bless Buck because he sees a certificate of commendation on the wall made out to John Delacroix and Buck’s like, “who’s John?” And Red’s like, “you didn’t think somebody actually called me Red, did you? It’s a nickname.”

Alice: Yeah. So the guys used to call him Code Red because he was a bit of a hothead when he was young, because just in case we hadn’t noticed Red and Buck are very similar.

Ellen: Yeah.

Bex: Really?

Alice: Just in case you hadn’t made that connection yet.

Bex: Hadn’t noticed, um, didn’t see the parallels.

Alice: No. They were, had no idea.

Ellen: As someone who often doesn’t see the parallels, I definitely saw the parallels. Like this is,

Alice: even Ellen saw the parallel.

Ellen: [00:39:00] Even I saw the parallels.

Bex: The parallels were like neon, neon flashing lights.

Ellen: Yeah.

Alice: Like I’m surprised they didn’t just call him like Chuck and his name was like John Chuckley.

Ellen: Yeah. I mean, he has a nickname that’s pretty close. Yeah.

Bex: Yes,

Ellen: he, but Buck notices a photo of. Um, a young, much younger Red with a woman and he’s like, oh, who’s this? But Red tells him that that’s Cindy. She got the one, she was the one who got away.

Bex: Everybody take a drink.

Ellen: Yeah.

Alice: Yep. Take a shot.

Ellen: Uh, they were gonna be married, but they ended up breaking up over well, he was too busy working and sounds like she got sick of being second place, you know?

Bex: Yeah. There was a baseball story, which I’m pretty sure is meant to be significant, but having no [00:40:00] idea about baseball. I don’t know. Something about a Dodgers game.

Ellen: Yeah.

Alice: Yeah. And like something about like five games or something? I don’t understand at all.

Bex: It was, it was a World series. I have a feeling that it’s significant, but the point is she, that she left him.

Alice: Yeah. She left. She left. Buck also has no one. He did once, but no longer does. Um, and Red’s like, “look, you can be the hero, save lives, but don’t neglect having your own. Last thing you wanna do is be at the end holding nothing but regrets. Trust me. I know.”

Ellen: Oh,

Bex: And on that slightly depressing note, we go to commercial.

Ellen: So this whole scene is just Buck looking into a mirror.

Alice: Yeah, an older mirror. Yes.

Ellen: Yeah.

Alice: From the future.

Bex: It’s like the, the ghost of Christmas, past, present, and future.

Ellen: So Buck freaks out and goes to work the next shift whenever [00:41:00] that is, and tells everyone else, um, sorry, they’re all playing pool. It must be just, you know, in between jobs or whatever.

But he’s telling them all about Red and how, how great he was during his, doing his job and everything, but now he lives alone in a one bedroom apartment. Um, that he pays for with his pension and he doesn’t see any of the others ever. And, Eddie’s like, “Well, from the way you described him, it sounds like he’s okay with that,” and Buck’s like, “Well, I’m not okay with it.”

Bex: No, because it’s hitting a little bit too close to home for Buck. And he eventually, he says that, uh, Red’s situation does bother him because he has no friends. He has no family. All the guys from the 1 34, they don’t talk anymore. It’s like they just left him behind.

And that’s that a very,

Alice: Can we talk quickly about the, um, the, I, I think that Bobby’s been like dubbed over here. Like, I’m pretty sure he did not say this in the thing, but like every time [00:42:00] he makes a shot he like comments on it and it’s only Bobby and it’s like in the background and it doesn’t sound right.

Bex: It’s Bobby

Alice: cracked me up so much.

Bex: It’s Bobby being supportive dad and just, you know, making sure his team know that they’re doing a really good job playing pool.

Alice: It is. I love it so much. But it’s very much like, it seems like it’s just been put in afterwards. Oh, it just made me laugh so much.

Bex: But it is slightly ironic ’cause one of the like, nice shots, um, comes after Eddie makes an absolute banger of a bad shot to the point where,

Ellen: I dunno, he fires.

He like, okay, I’m assuming they’re playing the version of pool where you like, I, I don’t know all that much about different, you know, snooker and pool and that, but you hit the white ball into another ball and make it go in the pocket, right?

Bex: Yeah.

Ellen: And Eddie just fires. He just fires the white ball directly into a pocket.

Alice: Yeah, it’s awful.

Ellen: And Bobby goes, “Nice shot!”

Alice: You just, you hear Bobby like weirdly [00:43:00] superimposed in the background. Like, “Nice one, Eddie,” what is happening right now? Like, did they, did they just feel like every, someone needed to comment on the fact that they were playing pool and they’re just like, you know what? We’ve got Peter in the like recording like booth today. Peter just say like, yay Eddie and good job Chim and that’ll do. Yeah.

Bex: It’s just, it’s so ironic that one of them comes after Ryan makes an incredibly bad shot. Yeah. Um, so while Bobby is being supportive, dad and, uh, Eddie slash Ryan is terrible at playing pool, um, Buck’s still spiraling about

Ellen: he’s no Jensen Ackles.

Alice: That man can do anything. Like Yeah. Anything and everything we’re still mad at him.

Bex: Yeah. So Buck’s still spiraling and um. He wants, he wants reassurance that what has happened to Red is not gonna happen to him. And, but he, he’s like, ” What happened to the 1 [00:44:00] 34 is not gonna happen to us, the 118.”

And everyone’s like, you know, “of course not. We are family. Nothing’s gonna change,” including the line of Buck’s like, “yeah. You know, if, if Bobby retired,” Bobby’s like, “wait, you know, something I don’t.” And, um,

Alice is just losing it in the background. Um, for those of you who are up to date with season eight, if you know, you know, um,

Buck clarifies, like, you know, “Someday when you retire someday, you know, but we’re all gonna keep in touch.” And Eddie’s trying to be supportive. Like “Yeah. You know, like, you two like Chim and Hen you still talk to the, the guys that used to be in the 118 before us. Right?”

Um, and Hen’s all, like, “Uh, I don’t know that we would call them friends.” And Chim and Chim’s like, ” I mean, I spoke to Tommy last year when I [00:45:00] called him for a favor.”

Ellen: Is he talking about the thing where the plane like,

Bex: yes.

Ellen: He was dumping the water with the plane?

Alice: Water bomb the house. Yeah.

Ellen: So he didn’t even call him after that to like, say thanks or anything? He was just like,

Alice: no, no. Yeah. Oh. Um, and then they’re like, they’re looking at Eddie like, did that help? And Eddie’s just like, what the fuck guys.

Bex: No, that did not help. So as a quick aside, um, for everybody who… I know we, there was some comments after, like, uh, Bobby Begins Again when we were talking about Chim and Hen’s relationship with like Sal and Tommy and those, um, this is my

Alice: Or lack of relationship.

Bex: This is my evidence where I’m like, yeah, they, they were simply situational work friends.

They were not actual friends. And this is your proof because Hen’s like, yeah, no, we weren’t actually friends.

Alice: Proximity workplace. Oh yes. What, what does Ron Swanson say? Proximity Workplace associates.

Bex: Oh wow. That’s super specific.

Alice: Um, [00:46:00] workplace proximity associates.

Bex: Yes. So yes. And apparently when you are no longer in the same workplace, so you don’t have proximity, you are no longer, you no longer associate with them anymore.

Um, so Eddie’s like trying to backpedal and trying to reassure buck that that’s not gonna happen to us. And Buck just death glares him and says, “Well, it better not.” And I love this line reading from Oliver. ’cause it’s so intense. It’s like I will do whatever it takes. Oh, you are not, you are not leaving me.

None of you are leaving me.

Ellen: Uh, okay. So we’re going to the next medical emergency, uh, which is a father and son.

Bex: Electric scooters.

Ellen: Yeah. A bit topical at the moment because places keep trying to ban them because people keep acting themselves on trees and things.

Alice: I literally, I was watching Ambulance last night, which is the [00:47:00] show that’s literally like, it’s about to descriptive as 9-1-1.

It’s um, the show about the Queensland Ambulance Service.

Ellen: Mm-hmm.

Alice: And their first call out was a guy who was on an electric scooter and read, like, ran directly into the side of a van and he ended up with like broken teeth and a like compound fracture in his, um, calf

Ellen: damn. Yeah. Like I know a lot of people ride them around the city when they’re drunk. Like to get from one place to another.

Alice: The funny thing is, right, so the, like, the paramedics are talking to him and like, you know, trying to keep his mind off it and they’re just like, “Oh, like where were you coming from?” And he goes, “Officeworks.” And they’re like, “why were you at Officeworks?” Because it’s dark at this stage too.

And he is like, “I was making photocopies.” And they’re like, okay, okay. Right.

Bex: So yeah. Who knows? These, these, these characters were not making photocopies.

Alice: They were not making photocopies?

Bex: No, I think they are.

Ellen: They’re making memories

Bex: went. [00:48:00] They are,

Ellen: they’re having a nice time to start with,

Bex: to start with. Yeah. Um, until, so they get on the electric scooter, the, both the dad, it’s a dad and a son. They both get on the same scooter, take off down the road. Um, neither of them are wearing a helmet.

Ellen: They’re going quite fast.

Bex: They are, they’re also on the footpath, um, which means that they keep almost running into people and people have to keep diving out of their way.

Alice: They’re not even slowing down either. They’re just like barreling through.

Bex: Yeah. So they end up going onto the road, which, you know, at least they don’t have to worry about pedestrians. Um, but it does mean that they have to worry about cars. And what’s interesting as while these guys are doing their joy ride, we are occasionally getting glimpses of them through a drone camera. Like from overhead.

Ellen: Yeah. [00:49:00]

Bex: And then as they’re, you know, winding their way through the suburbs, the drone camera operator is sitting in, uh, a truck and he gets out of the truck for some reason, but he doesn’t do a Swedish look. So he opens the car door and our scootering enthusiast just immediately smash into the now open door.

Ellen: What is this? What is a Swedish look?

Bex: I think it’s called the Swedish look. I remember seeing it somewhere, which is, um, in, I wanna say Sweden, but it’s sort of the European countries where they have a lot of cyclists. When you open your car door, you don’t do it with your, with the hand that’s closest to the door.

You do it with the other hand, which forces you to twist your body so that you’re looking over your shoulder as you open the door so that you can keep an eye out for cyclists so you don’t open it into their path.

Ellen: Right. [00:50:00]

Bex: But this guy didn’t do this.

Ellen: Very smart. Yeah.

Bex: It is very smart because then it stops this from happening, which is, um, they don’t actually smash into the door. Um, I misremembered they swerve to avoid the door.

Ellen: Yeah. They swerve outta the way and then the drone crashes to the road and they run into the drone.

Bex: And they run into the drone and which sends them flying.

Ellen: Yeah. And we get a really almost comical shot of them from underneath going, “ah!” as they fly through the air.

Bex: That must have been a fun day for them. Like, okay, we just need you to like jump onto the crash pad and make like the sprawl out in the air and just make the best faces. Uh, but in the show, they don’t land on a crash pad. Um, I don’t know what happens to Bryce, which is the son, um, but the dad ends up upside down in a hedge.

Alice: Fully [00:51:00] upside down. It’s ridiculous.

Ellen: He’s, he’s so stuck in that hedge they have to get like a little chainsaw thing to cut him out of there.

 They

Alice: get the chainsaws, but like his feet are just like di directly up in the air.

Bex: Yeah. He did a full 180. Yeah. I do love that once again, someone has gone to get, um, a chainsaw and the victim immediately thinks that the chainsaw is for them

Alice: like you are in a bush. It’s not even like, this is exactly what a chainsaw is for. Actually, we won’t talk about what a chainsaw was invented for.

Ellen: Don’t think I wanna know. I think I already do know.

Bex: You don’t know?

Ellen: But no,

Alice: if you don’t know, don’t, don’t ever find out.

Ellen: Okay, good.

Alice: It’s horrific.

Bex: It’s horrifying.

Ellen: Okay, so Athena is like, you know, gonna write this guy. Sorry. He, he’s gonna write them a ticket for riding an e-scooter without a helmet to start with. But also, it’s illegal [00:52:00] to fly a drone over private property. So that guy’s also getting done. Athena’s just generally mad at everybody about this whole thing.

Alice: Athena really is mad at the world today.

Bex: Yeah. Well I’m guessing

Alice: you get a ticket, you get a ticket.

Ellen: You ruined my date night, so everyone’s getting a ticket today.

Bex: Exactly. She, she didn’t get her sexy times, so she’s pissed off at the world.

Ellen: Oh, you don’t think they still got it on after Hen left?

Bex: No,

Alice: Bobby was sitting in a corner sad about the guy dying and Athena’s like, fucking Hen

Ellen: you, you gotta make the most of your non kid time. Like, I’m sure they still got something going on

Bex: anyway, so Athena,

Ellen: let’s not go there much further.

Bex: Athena takes the now broken drone over to the drone. Over who… drone owner. Um, who

Ellen: dronowner?

Bex: Drone owner. The drone owner. Um, or Jeffrey, which is probably an [00:53:00] easier thing for me to say right now.

Alice: Hang on. What are the laws? So they just said you can’t fly drones over private property.

Ellen: Yeah.

Alice: Yes. Like other people’s private property. ’cause we have a drone, but we have acreage, so we only fly it over our own property. I assume that’s legal.

Ellen: You can fly it over your own property. That’s fine. As long as you’re not going to high up to interfere with like actual airplanes.

Alice: I don’t think it could get that high.

Ellen: Yeah. Um,

Bex: I honestly didn’t look it up. And even if I did, I think Australian laws relating to sort of drones is gonna be different from American laws.

Ellen: Yeah. I mean, you see drones flying around the place all the time, like.

Alice: There was one at a park when we were there for Halloween once.

Bex: Yeah. But that’s like public property.

Like you don’t see drones flying sort of over houses. And we find out that, um, Jeffrey is claiming that he’s a real estate agent. He was taking, um, footage of [00:54:00] aerial footage of the house for an a listing. Um, and I have had my neighbor, when his property was up for sale, the real estate agent took drone footage of the house.

And because I live in a townhouse and they’re conjoined, the real estate agent did come to my door and say, “Hey, I’m taking drone footage. Your property will unfortunately be included in that footage because it’s literally attached to my client’s house. Are you okay with that?”

Alice: Oh, so they come and approach you? Yeah. There you go.

Bex: Well, my car is also parked right outside. So like my car and my license plate and all that sort of stuff was, so yeah, he did come in and double check with me that I was okay. And it literally just sort of, the drone was only going over this guy’s townhouse. It didn’t go over anybody else’s houses in the, in the complex.

Mm-hmm. So I’m gonna say, yes, there are strict laws when you are flying drones about where they can go. Uh, but in this situation, [00:55:00] um, there, there’s a woman who I’m guessing is the woman who called 9-1-1, is talking to, with is there while Athena is interrogating Jeffrey. And he’s saying like, “I’m a real estate agent. Um, I’m getting footage for the house.”

And the the woman’s going like, “I know those neighbors. Um, I haven’t heard about any of them selling.”

Alice: He’s like, oh, they, it’s not public yet.

Bex: Um, yeah, well the, the listing hasn’t gone up yet. And Athena is like, “uhhuh cool. So, um, you, you know, the, the agency that you work for, it’s a commercial drone, therefore it should have a license. Can I see a license?” He’s like, “Oh no, they’re, they’re too cheap to, to pay for a license.”

Ellen: yeah,

Bex: just the, the backpedaling. And Athena’s like, “okay, cool. So I’m guessing they’re gonna be too cheap to bail you outta jail then. ’cause you’re under arrest.”

Ellen: Damn.

Bex: And he just does not shut up the entire time she’s putting him in cuffs. [00:56:00] He’s like, “is this this really necessary? Can’t I just pay a fine for something?” And they, we get back to the police station and he’s still going like, “Arresting me just feels like way more trouble than it’s worth.” Athena hands Jeffrey off, you can hear him complaining all the way to wherever they’re taking him, complaining that he wants a lawyer.

 And Athena goes to talk to another officer whose name badge says that their name is Stafford about the drone hands over the drone, wants that put into evidence and Athena’s Spidey sense is tingling and she says, “Hey, can you pull the SD card from the machine so we can see what Jeffrey’s been filming?”

Ellen: Yeah. And Stafford’s said that the, the drone got destroyed, but the cart should still be fine. Yeah. So they’re gonna check him out. Meanwhile, Buck is up to no good. He is up to all the good.

Bex: He’s up. No, he thinks he’s doing good. [00:57:00] Yeah.

Alice: I love that like, Red’s like, go live your life and Buck’s like, no, I’m gonna live yours. Be right back.

Bex: I think, I think maybe it’s um, buck thinking, if he can fix Red’s life, then Buck has a chance.

Alice: Yeah. Yeah.

Bex: Yeah. But again, it’s like, I’m not gonna go out and live my own life. I’m gonna fix your life because then I will be reassured that no matter how badly I fuck up now, by the time I’m sort of 40 year veteran, and, um, I will be okay.

Um, but so he,

Alice: he’s like, it’s fine. Some smart ass kid will come and fix me later too.

Bex: Um, so he showed up at Red’s because he found Cindy, which he thinks is he’s done an amazing job and Red’s like, ” I know where she has been this entire time. Um, but the last I heard she was married to that dentist, husband of hers,” which leads us to one of the greatest gifts of all time from this show.

Alice: Not anymore. He [00:58:00] died. Isn’t that great?

Ellen: I mean, not great.

Alice: Unfortunately, for me, that is a vocal stim and it’s very inappropriate to say in most occasions, that and maggot! because of course it’s always the inappropriate things that your brain latches onto and is like, Hey, we should say this forever.

Ellen: Yeah.

Bex: Apparently it’s the, it’s the emotional weight of that sort of phrasing.

Like, you know, it’s inappropriate.

Alice: Yeah.

Bex: And because, you know it’s inappropriate. That’s why your brain latches onto it because you get a Yeah, I did look it up.

Alice: Brains are dicks. I get it. Yeah,

Bex: pretty much. Yeah.

Alice: Um, anyway, yeah, so he died, which is great, except not great. Uh, that’s obviously an overstatement. I’m sure. He was a nice man.

Bex: But it’s like, you know, “now she’s single and you are single and um, you know, you know the last thing you wanna be is at the end holding nothing [00:59:00] but regrets. You remember a wise man told me that,”

um, and Red so well, “you know, it would be polite just to, you know, go pay my respects. Right?”

Ellen: Uh, and Buck’s like, “Yeah, you should change,”

Bex: yeah, go change your shirt and Red’s like “You go get the car ready.”

And then we get Totos “Hold the Line” where we’re told that love isn’t always on time.

Ellen: Excellent song choice.

Bex: Yes.

Ellen: And Buck’s all gone, all out. He’s even got, got two tickets to the baseball for them.

Bex: And specifically he is got them Dodgers tickets. So. He was listening. He paid attention. Yeah,

Alice: he did. Yeah. The ADHD Gods work really well, except for things that you actually want to remember, like what you entered a [01:00:00] room for.

Ellen: Yeah.

Bex: He’s hyper fixated on Red, so he remembers everything.

Alice: But yeah, so they approach the door and when I say they approach the door Buck goes too,

Bex: oh yeah.

Alice: I dunno why Buck is also going, but he marches Red to the door, he’s knocks and everything.

Bex: He’s invested in this.

Alice: He’s like, we are gonna go meet Cindy. Red’s like, why are you here?

Ellen: A lady opens the door and it’s like a, a younger lady. Like not, probably not gonna be Cindy

Bex: obviously not Cindy. Yeah. Unless Red has got some questionable tastes.

Ellen: That’s right.

Bex: Also, no, we saw a photo of a younger Cindy and, uh, the woman who opens the door is not her.,

Ellen: Yeah, this is not her.

Bex: So it’s quite clearly, this isn’t Cindy, but, Cindy does sort of pop up behind. This is Doris who has opened the door. Um, she pops up behind Doris’s shoulder too to see who is at the door.

Ellen: Mm-hmm.

Bex: And Red sort of very shyly says, “Hey Cindy,” [01:01:00] and there’s a beat. And then Cindy like, “oh, oh, hello.” And I’d like, do you think she actually recognized him or is she just

Alice: No.

Bex: Doing that thing that dementia patients do when they know that they think they’re supposed to know somebody. So they just pretend because that’s what society expects them because like

Alice: if they haven’t seen each other for that many years too, like he’d look different as well. So I don’t think that

Ellen: Yeah, but doesn’t the, the sort of memory come and go a bit like,

Bex: well see, that’s why I’ve got the question mark. Like, does she actually recognize him or is she just pretending to at this point and hoping that at some point the memory will kick in?

Ellen: She might think that he’s someone else

Bex: I don’t know

Ellen: as well.

Bex: But anyway, um, they get invited in for tea and Red is regaling Buck with stories about Cindy [01:02:00] and it’s, it seems to be going okay.

Red’s telling stories. Everybody’s laughing, Cindy’s chiming in, but like some of the things she’s saying is like a little bit strange. Like they’re talking about Cindy being afraid of, of snakes and she says, oh, well they make terrible pets and Red’s trying to roll with it. But then, it continues on.

Alice: She sort of starts talking about birds.

Bex: Yeah. And he’s like, okay, cool. He just, yes, ands this entire conversation. Like anything she says, he just rolls with it until we get to the point where they’re talking about pets. And then Doris (Cindy) very seriously says “you have to fold them very carefully before you put them in the box.”

Ellen: Yeah. They both look very confused. Yeah.

Bex: Well, Red is like, what the fuck is going on here? Buck is like, ah, shit, I know what this is. I’ve seen this before. And he tries to like, very gently, very gracefully get Red out of the house [01:03:00] before the shit hits the fan. But unfortunately he’s not fast enough. Um, because he says to Red like, “Maybe we should go.”

And Cindy’s like, “Oh, Red. I knew a Red once.” And Red’s like, “Yeah, you knew me a long time ago.” And he takes Cindy’s hand and that just triggers her and she flies off into complete confusion.

Alice: I think this is where she becomes lucid.

Bex: Yes. Because she rec, she has no idea who he is. She just knows that he’s not her husband.

Ellen: She recognizes that he’s not Stanley. Yeah.

Bex: Yep. And “why are you in my house? Why are you in my house? Who let you into my house?”

Ellen: It’s such a terrifying thing.

Bex: It’s so sad,

Ellen: Especially with people that you used to know and you just no longer know them.

Bex: Red is absolutely furious with Buck. He storms out of the house, Buck, leaving Buck to sort of make their apologies and, and leave. [01:04:00] Um, because the only thing Red had was Cindy and these memories of Cindy.

Ellen: He had the memories

Bex: and now he doesn’t have that anymore because the girl that he once knew no longer exists.

Ellen: That’s so sad. He was trying to make it better.

Alice: The end where he goes, “I’m not sure I can survive your help anymore.” I’m just like, oh, poor Buck.

Ellen: Oh, that’s really. That’s hard.

Bex: It’s, but again, it’s the, the parallels are just like slamming over the top because we’ve had, you know, the one who got away and we had Buck reference, you know, like, I had somebody once, but you know, they got away from me and now all of a sudden we’ve got Cindy who has dementia and like, the parallels with Patricia and mm-hmm.

I’m not sure I can survive the symbolism in this episode.

Ellen: Uh, all right, well, I guess we have to go back to the LAPD briefly for a, the storyline that we don’t really care about. Um, [01:05:00] sorry, Athena.

Bex: We can like, too long didn’t read it first, like absolute speed run it.

Alice: It’s, it’s important later. So we should probably go through it.

Bex: So Stafford has been reviewing the SD card that she pulled out of the drone and she’s found, um. That it, it does contain aerial footage of the neighborhood, which would make sense if Jeffrey was a real estate agent.

However, I don’t know of any kind of real estate listings that would require the drone to focus on upstairs windows while women are standing right in front of the open window getting undressed.

Ellen: Mm-hmm.

Bex: And it’s like very pointedly. You know, I don’t know of any woman who would stand right in front of a open window like that to take off their bra, but you know, they had to like make it very obvious to the audience that he was peeping.

He’s a peeping Tom,

Ellen: so she heads out to, you know, do him for it. And, but the guy who was out the, who’s, I don’t [01:06:00] know, can’t remember this scene, I can’t remember how she approaches this guy. But anyway, he basically tells her that he’s already let him go. The Feds said it wasn’t worth the drive across town.

So they got, they let him go with a warning.

Bex: They bounced him. Yeah. This is Officer Re he’s running, he’s riding the desk. Um, and she wants him to pull Jeffrey out of wherever they’ve stashed him and put him in interrogation room. But he’s not there anymore, which just means that Athena’s gotta track him down.

Ellen: Alright, so Buck is now having a debriefing with Maddie at his place.

Bex: And could we just talk about the, um, the staging of this debrief for a second? ’cause it’s the weirdest staging.

Ellen: It is. They’re quite far apart with it.

Bex: So Maddie is sitting on the little steps that lead out, that lead up to the balcony on Buck’s loft and Buck is sitting halfway up the stairs to his bedroom.

Like, why? [01:07:00]

Ellen: Why is Maddie not sitting on a chair? Because isn’t there a table and chairs right there.

Bex: There’s. There are stools at the kitchen bench. Then you’ve got the kitchen table right now with its chairs.

Alice: There’s a couch in the lounge room,

Bex: and now there’s couches and chairs. There are plenty of seating options.

I mean, other than maybe to emphasize the distance between them and how isolated Buck is feeling, but it’s just the weirdest setup. But yeah, he’s telling Maddie about what happened and that he thought that he was helping Red, but he just made everything worse.

Alice: Yeah. But they have a have a chat about Abby’s mom.

Bex: Yeah. Just in case. Yeah. Just in case anybody forgot about Yeah. Abby and Patricia.

Alice: In case, in case anyone forgot. Uh, skipped season one. Um, yeah, he mentioned that Abby’s mom would have moments like that, and Abby would always take it in her stride, but like he knows it hurt to have someone she [01:08:00] loved look at her and not see her.

And Maddie’s like, “do you still think about her a lot?” And Buck’s like, “Abby’s mom?” Yeah,

Bex: Sassy boy.

Alice: But no, he admits yes, he sometimes still thinks about Abby, but that’s not what this is about.

Bex: So Maddie calls out the entire parallels. She’s like, so you

Alice: Yeah. Maddie full on just calls it out.

Bex: Yeah. In case. In case you didn’t see the neon flashing lights and like the interpretive dancers pointing at the parallels between Red and Buck.

Maddie says, “So you don’t think that this business with red is hitting a little too close to home? The lonely hero firefighter who’s pining for his lost love?” And Buck’s like “no, no, no. That’s ridiculous. Wait, you think I’m lonely?”

Ellen: Can I just pause for a moment to say that how amazing that Oliver looks in this episode?

Alice: Oh, he’s so cute in this.

Ellen: He looks amazing.

Alice: Oh, the part in the hospi. Oh, what?

Bex: But the lean at the hospital, [01:09:00]

Ellen: I think pa, partially because a lot of it’s not wearing his uniform. Like he’s in C’S and it looks so different. It’s jarred my brain into like, oh wow.

Bex: You can always pause to marvel at the physical splendor that is, um, Oliver Stark. We will never be upset with that kind of like, can we just pause?

Ellen: Yeah. Anyway, yes, continue.

Alice: And like last episode, we just had him covered in mud and not in a fun way because he was just crying the whole time. And same with Eddie. Like he was just covered in mud and not in a fun way.

Ellen: Yeah,

Alice: like, like grungy, but not that bad. Like

Ellen: not in a fun way.

Bex: And they were in the turnouts for most of the last episode too. So it is nice to see them like actually see the physical form a little bit, tighter of clothing anyway.

Ellen: Yes. Anyway, thirsting aside, um, Buck is being sad.

Bex: Buck is being very sad. Maddie says that she, like, she does think that he’s lonely because he [01:10:00] tried dating a few times after Abby left, but it appears to her that he’s just, um, given up, stopped trying, and she tries to sympathize with him by saying that she knows how hard it is.

And this next part is just heartbreaking because Buck is not mad. He’s not blaming. He just speaks truth and says, “Do you? Because you are never the one getting left behind. You are always the one to leave.”

Ellen: Yeah.

Bex: But it is like, he just like stabbed Maddie in the heart and twisted.

Alice: Yeah. And he, he does mention not, he doesn’t mean with Doug because Doug, she definitely needed to leave

Bex: But everybody else.

Alice: Um, but all the guys he, all the guys she dated before him, the girl that she was best friends with in high school, mom and dad, him, um, and Maddie goes to apologize and Buck’s like, look, I’m not mad. I’m just saying maybe you don’t understand. [01:11:00] ’cause you’re always the one who leaves. You don’t know what it’s like to watch someone you love walk away.

Bex: And he’s not mad and he’s not upset. He’s just, his voice is completely calm and flat. He’s just like, this is the truth. This is facts. You don’t know what it’s like to leave because you don’t know what it’s like to be left because you’re always the one doing the leaving. And then from that heartbreaking scene, um, we go to our next medical emergency.

Ellen: Oh, this is like everything I hate about these cooking shows and like, Masterchef is about to start again, and I know that my daughter wants to watch it, and I’m like, do we have to? I mean, it’s, it’s not as bad as this. It’s not,

Bex: it’s like, it’s like a, um, a like community channel, like has no money. It’s operating outta the back of someone’s house, kind of level of cooking show because this, there’s,

Alice: it’s Channel 31 made a cooking show

Bex: pretty [01:12:00] much like, um, every five seconds there’s a dramatic sound effect or a, um, like a knife, um, doing the, like sweeping down to cut the next transition.

Um, the dialogue is terrible. The set is like, could fit into my bathroom. It’s, it, it’s bad.

Ellen: It’s just they took all of the, the it existing cooking shows and just turned them up to a hundred. You know, like,

Bex: like every cliche you can think of from every cooking competition. This is it. I don’t even know what the premise is of this show.

I don’t even know if it’s meant to be parodying something or whether it’s just meant to be parodying everybody

cook, cooking,

Alice: Bex, cooking.

Bex: No, but like she’s saying,

Ellen: they are actually cooking.

Bex: Like she, these are the losing chefs from all her other shows. So like, anyway, that’s not the point. The point is that

Alice: Bex is like, I don’t wanna watch 9-1-1. I just wanna watch the last cook.

Bex: I [01:13:00] wanna know what the point of this is. I, anyway,

Alice: but this guy’s making triple bourbon bread pudding, um, and he’s adding more bourbon to the sauce. He’s got bourbon in the pudding itself. And bourbon in the whipped cream.

Bex: Yes. And he’s going to use a nitrous thingy, which looks like he’s, it’s like a pressure canister to whip the cream.

Yeah. Rather than trying to whip it by hand, which the um, the host of the show is a little bit, um, dubious about because it changes the texture of the whipped cream. But in the end it doesn’t really matter because the canister explodes and the poor, uh, chef contestant gets the nozzle embedded in his chest.

Ellen: Ouch. And the host who is covered in cream,

Bex: everything in is covered in cream. The camera is covered in cream

Ellen: everything is covered in cream. Yes.

Bex: Yeah, it is kind of, it’s quite hilarious ’cause everyone’s just kind of frozen in [01:14:00] shock. Um, including the chef that just got shot through the heart with the, um, the cream canister. And then he,

Alice: you mean the chef that just got creamed?

Bex: He slowly topples backwards and then you just hear this little voice go “medic!”

Ellen: Yeah, but it’s the actual, the actual host who pulls out her phone and calls 9-1-1 and says, my host, my chef’s been creamed. I agree. One of the worst.

Alice: It’s like I literally have it in my notes. I think this is the worst call. Mm-hmm. It’s so bad.

Bex: Maybe if I’m bored one day we’ll go through and I’ll find all of the 9-1-1 calls and like we can rank them.

Ellen: That’s one for the season wrap up.

Bex: Yes. Yeah, the top five, but

Alice: Fuck, marry, kill, but it’s the, the top five, the worst 9-1-1 calls.[01:15:00]

Bex: Uh, but it, I’m assuming that they get a little bit more information out of her other than her chef as being creamed because the 118 do arrive and, um, Hen and Chim immediately take charge. They, they see that the, the nozzle has penetrated his chest. They don’t know how deep the shrapnel is. I don’t know why.

I mean, if you can look at a patient and diagnose them with a thyroid condition, surely you should be able to use what sort of x-ray vision you’ve got to, to figure out exactly how deep the shrapnel is penetrated. Um, honestly, come on. But they immediately decide that they’re gonna rush this guy straight to hospital and let actual doctors treat him or So we think, um,

Ellen: yeah,

Bex: because Chim and Hen get him in the ambulance, they’re rushing to Mercy Hospital.

Bobby’s radioed head told them to get surgeons on the line, but the chef is not doing well. His blood pressure is bottoming out [01:16:00] and they’ve still got seven minutes before they’re at the hospital.

Ellen: Yeah. Hen doesn’t think he’s gonna make it because his torso filling up with blood and the shrapnel probably clipped his aorta.

And at least Chim calls her out on it this time. He’s like, “You have no way of knowing that.”

Bex: Like, sir, do we need to tell you about all the things you have managed to diagnose just by look? I’m pretty sure that he looked at somebody and worked out that they had like a double collapse lung just by looking at them.

But sure. In this instance, fine. So Hen decides that the only logical thing to do is to perform a thoracotomy in a moving ambulance.

Ellen: Yeah. She’s gonna widen the opening that’s already there and Chim’s like, “Um, that’s a job for a surgeon.” She’s like, “Nah, I got this.”

Alice: I’m good. I got a, I, I got gloves. I watched House last night.

Ellen: She’s, she’s gonna pinch the aorta just above the injury and and I’m thinking, isn’t [01:17:00] that just gonna cut off the blood supply to his body?

And then Chim actually says, “You’re gonna cut off the circulation in his lower limbs.”

Bex: And Hen’s like, “Nah, as long as his heart’s still fine.” It’s like when they, um, the dude that they were, um, they got the nail gun to the chest and they’re having to perform CPR on him. And Chim’s like, I’m just making the whole works.

And he’s like, you know, they can fix broken. They can’t fix dead. So she’s just, it’s just the situation’s reversed here. Yeah. Like they can fix lack of circulation in the limbs. They can’t fix a heart that’s not beating. So, um,

Alice: yeah, like to be, this is, it’s basically the, um, the theory about like CPR and tourniquets as well.

So CPR you break the, like patient’s sternum and or ribs. Yeah. But it’s like they’re dead when you’re doing it, so it’s better than being dead. Um, and same with the tourniquet. Like it’s a big likelihood that you’re gonna lose the limb that’s below the [01:18:00] tourniquet,

Bex: but at least you’ll be alive.

Alice: But otherwise you’re gonna bleed out. Yeah.

Bex: Yeah. Mm-hmm. Um, Chim calls out Hen and sort of lets the audience know why hen is doing this. Like her motivations for why she is so adamant that she’s gonna perform this like incredibly risky maneuver, um, because she doesn’t wanna lose this guy the way she lost the guy at the fire.

Ellen: Yeah. And I was also thinking at the time about the cellist, like she’s had a lot of trauma recently about losing patients.

So now she’s like, “You do what you want, I’m gonna do this.” And it was like, okay.

Bex: Yeah. And Bobby brings that up as well later on the episode that, you know, she’s, all of these patients that she’s quote unquote lost. Um, but she’s adamant in this situation that she didn’t lose Anton, the hospital did.

Ellen: Mm-hmm.

Bex: And so she’s just like, “I don’t care. I don’t care what you say, [01:19:00] Chim, I am doing this.”

Ellen: Anyway, they ma managed to make it to the hospital without being completely covered in blood this time.

Bex: Well, all the blood’s inside the chest cavity. Yeah.

Ellen: So she Chim’s a little disappointed. Yeah.

Alice: All the blood’s inside the body, that’s where

it’s supposed to be,

Ellen: but they get, they do make it to the hospital and Hen’s hand is like inside his chest as they wheel him out of the ambulance.

Bex: Yeah. She’s refusing to take her hand out

Ellen: and they tell a doctor what happened and he’s like, “Are you kidding me? That’s a surgeon’s job.”

Bex: This doctor though, like he’s off in the lobby talking to two other people who I’m assuming are his, like are relatives of patients that he’s supposed to be dealing with.

He sees the gurney coming in and just immediately ditches those people that so that he can come over and like, take over this situation. He’s trying to be the big damn hero.

Alice: He’s like, [01:20:00] see ya losers

Bex: just sort of leaving these two people with business badges going, ah, what, what just happened? Yeah. Um, but I do like that, um, like all in, in the scene in the ambulance Chim is just reiterating. It’s a job for a surgeon. It’s a job for a surgeon. Hen No, we get to the hospital and the doctor is saying that was a job for a surgeon. Chim has immediately got Hen’s back.

Alice: Yeah. Oh yeah. Like Chim is the best like, you know, he’s the best friend. He’s the big brother. He is like, you know, I’m allowed to give her shit, but no one else is allowed to give her shit.

Yeah. Like Hen you’re a fucking idiot. The surgeon’s like, Hen you’re a fucking idiot. And he is like, fuck you.

Ellen: Yeah, she’s done.

Alice: She’s the smartest person in this room.

Ellen: She’s done it and she’s done it well. So tell us where to go. Yeah,

Bex: yeah. So the doctor immediately takes charge. He tells Hen that she can let go, and then she’s like, “No, I let go, he codes before we make it to the ER. I lose another [01:21:00] patient. You are taking me with him. I am not letting go until he is literally right in front of a surgeon. So just tell me where I’m going.” .

Alice: So now we enter into an episode of Grey’s Anatomy somehow. Um, they weren’t even on the same network at this stage, but here we are.

Bex: It’s

Alice: very much, um, BokHee’s in the background for some reason.

Bex: Who?

Alice: The anesthesiologist in Grey’s Anatomy.

Bex: Is that the one that fell asleep and the kid woke up in brain surgery?

Alice: Uh, no. She’s like the only, hang on what she, I don’t think she’s the anesthesiologist. Actually.

Bex: That’s the only anesthesiologist I remember.

Alice: Sorry. She’s a scrub nurse. Oh, okay. But she’s like still in it and she’s actually a nurse. Um, and like she doesn’t talk, she’s just sort of in the background.

Bex: Okay.

Ellen: Well, uh, Hen

Alice: she’s not actually in this episode for the record, I was Yep.

Ellen: They have a little montage of Hen getting scrubbed up and, well, as much as she [01:22:00] can handle, because she’s still got one hand in the patient.

Bex: Yeah. Like they immediately, there are two scrub nurses, um, putting a gown and a mask.

Ellen: They put like the gown and the hat on. Yeah.

Bex: Yeah. As she’s, as they’re wheeling the patient in. And then we meet the, the surgeon. So the surgeon asked for the sit rep. The, uh, the, the white male doctor from the waiting room has followed everybody into the room and, um, very sort of sneeringly says, “Oh, it’s a thoracotomy in the field.”

Um, and the surgeon was like, “Wow, somebody needed a challenge.” So they do medical stuff. Um, the surgeon says,

Alice: The notes literally say “surgery stuff happens”.

Bex: Surgery stuff!

Alice: Imagine if we, we were actually doing a Grey’s Anatomy podcast. Oh, God no. I, it’s like, I don’t know. It’s, there’s a scalpel and some stuff. And do

Ellen: they do some cutting? I don’t know. [01:23:00] Blood spurts.

Alice: Yeah. And then they’re in an elevator making out, so it’s fine.

Bex: Surgery stuff happens. They, they manage to clamp the aorta. Hen is able to remove her hand. Maurice lives, it’s all good. Um,

Ellen: yeah. But the surgeon says to her, “You can let go now, doctor.”

Bex: You can let, you can let go now doctor.

Ellen: Doctor?

Bex: And the, the white male doctor is like, “She’s not a doctor, she’s just a paramedic who brought him in and apparently felt the need to break every rule in the book.” And the surgeon who is uh, a white woman, looks at this young, privileged white man looks at the older black paramedic and decides that she’s gonna side with the paramedic and goes, “Nice work firefighter.”

Ellen: She’s like, fuck the rules. Yes, you were right.

Alice: Fuck the patriarchy.

Bex: Yes. Uh, meanwhile in a possibly same hospital,

Ellen: another hospital

Alice: in another hospital?

Ellen: [01:24:00] Possibly the same hospital, I’m don’t know,

Alice: hospital mark two?

Bex: Different floor on the same hospital. Let’s go with, um, Buck has been called to said hospital, um, by Red.

I don’t know why Red is in the hospital. I don’t know when he got to the hospital. Um, but he called Buck because he didn’t know who else to call and he needs help getting home.

Ellen: Oh.

Bex: But apparently Buck wasted a trip down there because the doctors don’t appear to be willing to let Red leave.

Alice: Yeah. And Buck’s like, “well they probably know what’s best.

Like they’ll release you when you’re better.” And Red goes, “oh kid, there’s no better. Um, this escalator is only going in one direction ’cause it’s mess…”

Bex: Mesothelioma.

Alice: I’m Thank you. Uh, which is lung cancer?

Bex: Pretty much. Yeah.

Ellen: Apparently he lasted [01:25:00] longer than they thought he would.

Bex: Apparently. Ev like, he’s just decided to nose dive in the last like couple of days. Like he met Buck and immediately, just went on a downhill.

Ellen: Oh no. Buck assisted in breaking his heart, so.

Bex: Oh, that’s what it is. Like Cindy was the only thing keeping him alive. And now he no longer has Cindy. He’s just,

Ellen: he’s dying of a broken heart now.

Bex: Spiraling the drain. Yeah. Okay.

Ellen: Poor Red,

Bex: poor Buck. Um, so

Alice: Buck’s like it’s okay, Red won’t leave me and Red’s like bet,

Bex: but for once Buck asks, what can I do to help? And Red’s just like, well, could you sit with me for a while? So Buck sits with him and let’s red tell him more war stories about his time with the 1 34.

Ellen: Yeah, it’s very sweet in the end.

Bex: Yeah. Yes. So then I’m guessing the next day, [01:26:00] um, Hen’s arriving for her shift that she’s already in duty uniform.

I’m very confused as to exactly the timing of what’s going on here. Um, but as she’s walking towards the locker room, she notices that some smart ass has hung a white lab coat from her equipment locker. Apparently the, apparently the rest of the 118 has been like hiding under the truck and like around the corner and, um, behind doors so that they could jump out and surprise Hen when she noticed the doctor’s, um, doctor’s jacket. It’s very cute.

Ellen: Yeah. They all jump out and they cheer and they make her put the coat on.

Bex: Yes. Um,

Ellen: and you know, “you did it. Let’s commemorate the first surgery.”

Bex: Yeah. They call her Dr. Wilson and she says, “oh, I like the sound of Dr. Wilson.” Um, and can we have a quick shout out?[01:27:00] that background firefighter is back.

Alice: Yay. Background firefighter.

Bex: Yeah, we have missed you background firefighter.

Ellen: Actually there are a bunch of other firefighters in this episode that we’ve never seen before.

Alice: Yeah, they were allowed to participate. It’s nice.

Ellen: Yeah. It’s like suddenly they had the budget to have a bunch of extras.

Bex: So while everybody’s celebrating, Buck gets a phone call and disappears, and I don’t know where everybody else goes, but, um, Bobby approaches Hen,

Ellen: okay. So he, he says to like Hen apologizes to him and says, “look, I’m, I wasn’t thinking, I just, it was instinct,” and he, she had to make sure that it stayed a win.

So, and this is where Bobby calls her out and says, “This is, this is more than about Anton. Like, you’re, you’re still thinking about the cello player.” I like how they keep referring to her as the cello player

Alice: rather than like, yeah, that was, that was her entire like, [01:28:00]

Bex: but like, they had like a five whole minutes of let’s get to know her. Let’s learn her name. I don’t even remember her name. She’s just literally now the cello player.

Ellen: It was Evelyn,

Bex: of course you,

Alice: oh, it was too.

Bex: Of course you can remember that.

Ellen: But anyway, Hen does, like Bobby does say that the patient didn’t die and no one’s complained, so

Bex: No, no, it’s great. Don’t do it again. So yeah, like “how much trouble am am I in?” And Bobby’s like, “The patient didn’t die, nobody alleged to complain. It’s a great save.” And then his face drops. “Don’t do it again.”

Alice: Don’t do it again. Thanks, Captain Dad. Um, my paramedic just got back to me, um, regarding Hen doing changeover.

Ellen: Mm-hmm?

Alice: Um, so I was like, she tells the doctor she does, um, to run a 12 lead EKG to look for an arrhythmia associated with hypercalcemia, and my paramedic friend [01:29:00] said, um, yes, the 12 lead, that’s normal. And she does those. Um, but you’re definitely not supposed to put your hands inside a patient.

So shout out to Kate, the paramedic. Um, love your work.

Ellen: Thank you. Good job.

Bex: Thank you Kate.

Okay, we’ve gotta go back to the hospital and we’re just gonna freeze frame for a couple of seconds. ’cause Buck is in his duty uniform and he’s doing this lean against the wall. Um,

Alice: and he’s just all legs.

Bex: Yeah. Oh my God. I, the, the length of those man’s legs, I am so going to hell.

Alice: Yeah. At least he’s my age.

Bex: Yeah. See, this is what I’m talking about. I’m not allowed to be lusting after Oliver Star because he’s fully not age

Ellen: You can appreciate

Bex: age [01:30:00] appropriate.

Ellen: You can appreciate on the television.

Bex: Oh, I’m very much appreciating.

Alice: We may rename you, we may rename you to Abby, but you’re allowed to appreciate.

Bex: No. Hey look, I liked Abby. I’m okay with that. If I can get hair like Abby, I will be fine.

Ellen: Yes, she did have very beautiful hair.

Bex: Anyway, so

Ellen: Anyway, Buck is springing Red out of jail. I mean, hospital jail.

Bex: Hospital jail is springing him from hospital jail.

Alice: Um, yeah. Red even is like, “How’d you get them to spring me?” And Buck’s like, “I made a few calls, actually it was a lot of calls.” Um, turns out Buck’s also stubborn.

Ellen: Hmm. But, and he’s gonna take him home, but not in his car. And this bit is really lovely. It’s very touching.

Bex: It’s, isn’t it?

Alice: It’s so

Bex: They push open the doors to wheel Red [01:31:00] outside and reveals that there is an honor guard set up of, I’m assuming members of the 118 in uniform. And then there are older men, which I know I said that I thought all of the 1 34 was dead.

But I have a feeling that those guys on the left hand side of the honor guard might be the remaining members of the 1 34.

Ellen: Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think so. Yeah. Even, even existing members.

Bex: So they are, they’ve, they’ve formed a, uh, a tunnel that Buck pushes Red through in his wheelchair, and everybody is standing in a salute.

And then outside in the, the, the parking lot entry roadie thingy external to the hospital. Um, the 118 are parked their engine trucks and their ladder trucks. And Bobby, but Bobby, Chim Hen and Eddie are standing in a salute waiting for Red. [01:32:00] And Red is visibly fighting back tears as Buck pushes him through.

And he, he can’t believe that Buck did all this for him. And Buck tells him, well, you sacrificed everything for the job. The least we could do was say thank you.

Ellen: Yeah. There’s a lot of people

Bex: there are.

Ellen: And Bobby, when they get to the, um, the truck, Bobby tells him that he can take the captain’s seat. I don’t know what happens if they get an emergency, like while they’re on their way home, he just has to go along with them

Bex: Possibly. I have a feeling that. Buck might’ve let Maddie know to take the 118 op rotation for the next hour or so. But yes, they, they help Red up into the ladder truck and red salutes and Buck very slowly returns the salute and then just holds it for the longest time. And then we get [01:33:00] a shot of the 118’s engine truck and the ambulance going down the road, lights and sirens going.

It’s dark. It’s very pretty. As if we had a voiceover from Buck saying that Red passed away at 5 23 that morning.

Ellen: Aw.

Bex: So he went quick.

Ellen: Yeah.

Bex: So once again, Buck’s having a debrief with his sister. This time they’re actually sitting on furniture, which is better than trying to talk across the loft. Uh, across the apartment from various staircases.

Ellen: And, and Buck is in tears when he’s telling Maddie about this.

Maddie says, you were there for him when no one else was. And then Buck was like, “Did I do that thing that I always do and make it about me? And I tried to fix him to make myself feel better.” And it’s like, a little bit?

Bex: A little bit?

Ellen: A little bit. But you, your heart was in the right place. You tried to make things better for him as well, so,

Bex: [01:34:00] and I think he, like he did make things better for Red.

Yeah. So it’s like win-win, like you feel a little bit better. You feel like you are not going to die alone. And Red got like a, a final send off and he didn’t die alone. Um. Although he’s once again Buck is spiraling with the parallels between his life and Red’s life. Um, because he tells Maddie, you know, all Red ever wanted to do was talk about the job.

The job really was his whole life, which as we have seen firefighting is Evan Buckley’s entire existence. And anything that possibly takes him away from firefighting is met with, you know, intense supreme panic and lawsuits. Um, so

Ellen: yeah, but, and Matt tries to tell him that his, you and not him, his life is not your future because

Bex: she government names him.

Like she calls him Evan, Evan, [01:35:00] Evan, to make sure that he’s paying attention.

Ellen: Yeah. He didn’t have a sister. He didn’t have me. This is so sweet.

Bex: Yeah. She, she tries to tell, she tries to reassure him that, um. She might’ve left him once, twice, actually she might’ve left him twice. Once with mom and dad and once when things got rough with Doug. But she came back because she’s his sister, he’s her brother, and he, she loves him and she promises that Buck will never get left behind.

And they pinky promise.

Ellen: Aw, that’s so sweet.

Bex: It’s so cute. Buck looks like he’s about to burst into tears and, um, like almost begging Maddie to promise that she will never leave him behind and she just holds up a pinky finger and he just bursts out laughing. Aw. But he does do the pinky swear with her.

Yeah. And you think that would be the perfect [01:36:00] place to end this episode, but it’s not. We’ve still got one more scene to do. So Athena has tracked down Jeffrey, the peeping Tom. And, uh, surprise, surprise, he is not at home.

Ellen: No, he’s gone.

Bex: We do meet Detective Ransone though, who is another detective who I’m not entirely sure that I remember what department he’s with, but we don’t get Romero in this one.

We get Ransone.

Ellen: Mm-hmm. He must be from the SVU,

Bex: possibly.

Ellen: Um, but they, they’ve found a whole bunch of hard drives and disks and stuff. Um,

Bex: yeah.

Ellen: In his house.

Bex: His garage.

Ellen: He just left all of that stuff behind. Yeah. When he got outta town.

Bex: And poor Stafford, who I’m guessing is some kind of tech analyst, um, [01:37:00] specific for tech crimes, um, has the pleasure of, has the, the pleasurable job of having to go through all of it.

And she finds some terrible footage. Um, and it’s not drone footage though. It appears to be from a, um, a camera, like a, a security camera inside a woman’s bedroom. And we don’t get, we as the audience don’t get to see a lot of it. This is not Criminal Minds. Um, we just hear, I don’t even think we hear anything.

I think we just see Athena and

Ellen: No, we see Athena’s reaction. Yeah,

Bex: we just see the Athena and Ransone and Stafford’s faces as they watch the footage. Um, and then Detective Ransone tells us what they watching that Jeffrey is not just peeping Tom. He’s a serial rapist

Ellen: and they let him get away.

Bex: Of course, Athena has to have the last line of [01:38:00] the episode and she says, “and we let him get away.”

Ellen: Damn. So like from a, I guess sad but also kind of sweet

Bex: bittersweet?

Ellen: Scene. Yeah. We, take the mood right down with the bit of a cliffhanger, I guess.

Bex: Yeah.

Ellen: Leading into the finale, I’m assuming, because we are only a few episodes away from that. Right?

Bex: We’ve got the penultimate episode. It leads into the penultimate episode, which leads into the finale, so we’ve got two more to go.

Ellen: Mm-hmm.

Alice: And I’m sure all this talk about Abby won’t come back at all

Bex: No.

Alice: This season either. Oh,

Bex: shush.

Ellen: Don’t tell me that.

Bex: So, yeah. So next week, penultimate episode of season three, um, where while the 118 is off doing their fun little emergencies, including, uh, rescuing a [01:39:00] girl in a runaway hot air balloon and helping with a city power outage caused by a hijacked tree trimmer truck.

Um, Athena’s investigation into the serial rapist case puts her life in jeopardy.

Ellen: Oh, geez.

Bex: Um, and the triggers for next week’s episode include, um, discussions of cancer, uh, a child at threat, possible claustrophobia. Um, we have a character getting an MRI, we have character stuck in an elevator. We have a character stuck in a walk-in freezer with the most on the nose, needle drop that I think 9-1-1 has done to date.

Um, there is gun violence. There is a graphic assault and major character injury. A police officer at threat. Um, sexual violence, rape. I don’t know what the suspected cheating is in, and it really just throws off the flow of that, the triggers. Um, and a train [01:40:00] derailment,

Ellen: right?

Bex: What even is the suspected cheating?

Alice: I think the suspected cheating’s Hen

Bex: Oh yeah.

Alice: Because I thought that next week’s episode was this week’s episode. No. And then when I watched it, I was like, oh, that doesn’t happen in this episode. So I’m pretty sure it’s Hen.

Bex: Yes. So yes. Um, next week’s episode is a heavy one.

Ellen: Yeah. Yeah. Cool. Can’t wait. I love it when you say that and I’m like, oh my God. But yeah, it could be anything from, oh, that wasn’t so bad to me hiding behind my couch.

Bex: I am like, I, I don’t think we’ve ever, I know we joked about, you know, gaslighting you about certain episodes, but I don’t think we’ve ever led you astray when it comes to what to expect in the next episode.

Ellen: Okay. But this episode, um, was such a great Buck [01:41:00] episode. He had some cracking lines.

Bex: It’s such, it’s not one of my favorite episodes, just because it’s, I feel like it’s so sad for Buck.

Ellen: It is very, it’s heartbreaking.

Bex: It’s so pointed.

Ellen: His, because he’s worried about losing his family.

Bex: They, they really hammer home that like Buck is alone. Buck has no one. Buck’s entire life is firefighting and he’s destined to die, you know, loveless and penniless

Alice: Also remember Abby?

Bex: Yeah. I just, yeah.

Ellen: But outside of that, he did have, he, he was,

Alice: he was so cute.

Ellen: He was cute. Yeah. He was so cute.

Bex: Yeah. But again, it was, um, once again, I don’t know if I, if this was from the last episode that I said this, but there’s, you can sort of see the threads are starting to, they’re starting to pull the threads [01:42:00] to develop sort of future storylines.

Ellen: Yeah. They did a similar thing with the, with season two, right? The last,

Bex: yeah, the last couple episode.

Ellen: Three or four episodes flowed into each other. They kept,

Bex: yeah. They just sort of, sort of bring up random shit and like, why, why are we suddenly got this storyline? And as you watch the next couple of episodes, it’s like, oh, that’s why we get that storyline.

Ellen: Yeah.

Bex: That’s why that thing happened. ’cause it leads into this, which then leads into that. It wasn’t a very big episode, it was mostly a feels episode. Yeah. I mean, you could almost say that it was kind of a, it’s not quite a filler episode, but

Alice: it’s almost a, it’s kind of a bridging episode.

Bex: Yeah.

Alice: Because a lot’s gonna come back in a big way.

Bex: Yes.

Ellen: Right. Okay.

Bex: There’s not a lot of substance up to it as an episode, but it is important in the grand scheme of things. Um, okay. But yes, I don’t have anything [01:43:00] else to say about it, although I do want to note that I don’t think that the oopsie with the promo was because they filmed it with a blind woman and then suddenly changed it.

I think that whoever wrote the promo just remembered that the woman was disabled and went like 50 50 as to which disability she had and then didn’t.

Alice: Yikes.

Bex: And then didn’t double check

Alice: a little bit yikes.

Bex: Before they sent it out.

Ellen: I mean, I, I can’t, I I can imagine that it would’ve been, no, it wouldn’t have, I I was gonna say it’d be a similar kind of rescue if she had been blind, but it wouldn’t have been because

Bex: there wouldn’t have been the whole, um, the typing thing with Maddie.

Ellen: Yeah, it would’ve, she could’ve called 9-1-1. It would’ve been, yeah, I don’t. Yeah. So I think they just must have got it wrong.

Bex: Yeah. So this is not a promo that is wrong because they wrote the promo before they edited the episode. This is just somebody fucked up when they were writing the promo. Yeah, yeah.

[01:44:00] The episode was always gonna be like this. Just the promo is wrong. And now I’m done. Now I have no more thoughts on this episode.

Ellen: Now you’re done.

Bex: Now I’m ready to move on to, um, to the next episode.

Ellen: Yeah. Uh, well now it’s the time. We’ve only got a couple episodes to go in this season, so send us your feedback, preferably by email or a DM if possible.

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See you then.

Bex: Bye

Alice: Bye.

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[outtake 1]

Alice: Is this where she’s pinching the guy’s heart or whatever?

Bex: Yes. So the nitrous can, canister, explodes. He gets shrapnel through the heart, it severs his aorta. Hen decides that the best course of action is to literally stick her hand inside his chest cavity and pinch his aorta to stop him bleeding out before they get him to the hospital.

Ellen: Wow, this is gonna be the fastest episode ever and we’re just like hitting those plot points.

Bex: Yep.

[outtake 2]

Bex: Buck goes to a bar.

Ellen: What is that [01:46:00] noise?

Bex: Ma’am, what is that?

Alice: Gingerbread? It’s a packet of gingerbread. I’ve got like inadvertent AS… dude.

Ellen: I’m going to like be cutting like all of your track out except for the bits where you’re talking.

Bex: And if you keep it up, she’ll even cut the bits when you’re talking too.

Ellen: You’ll be, I’ll be like, this is too much effort now

Alice: just, just be talking I some random gaps. And then you laughing and keep going. Everyone’s like, um, did Alice’s track not work this week? Ellen’s like, no, I just didn’t want to include

Ellen: No, didn’t.

Bex: It’s like that you’re really petty…

Alice: She was eating on main.

Bex: That really, really petty when you know somebody starts talking, just like, do you hear something? Is somebody talking? I don’t hear anybody talking.

Ellen: Sometimes I can still hear her voice.

Alice: I was about to say the same thing, Ellen. She’s, she’s not dead. She just opened gingerbread over the microphone.[01:47:00]

Ellen: Alright. Well anyway, Buck Goes to a bar…