Welcome to That Weewoo Show: a podcast where Bex, Alice and Ellen watch and discuss every episode of ABC’s TV show, 9-1-1.
In this episode we discuss episode 8 of the fifth season of 9-1-1, titled “Defend in Place”.
Bobby and the 118 race to save lives after an explosion rocks the hospital where David is performing surgery. Michael makes a life-changing decision.
Content warnings for episode 5.08:
cancer ward, hospital explosion and fire, people at threat including children, patient death (not children), graphic brain surgery
Mentioned in episode:
- “The Ketchup Song” by Las Ketchup (and its weird relationship to Sugar Hill Gang’s “Rapper’s Delight”) (via wikipedia)
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Episode Transcript
Maddie: [00:00:00] 9-1-1. What’s your emergency?
Bex: Welcome back to That WeeWoo Show, a podcast where we watch and discuss episodes of the ABC Show, 9-1-1. I’m Bex.
Alice: I’m the one that keeps Autumn
Ellen: and I’m Ellen. You okay with, You wanna add…
Alice: I think Bex died
Ellen: your actual name or your, I think we probably need to explain what you mean by that.
Bex: Oh, hang on. Lemme get the, get the rest of the spiel out, then we can explain it.
Ellen: Okay.
Bex: Thank you to [00:01:00] everyone who has listened to our episodes so far, uh, who have shared our social media posts and who have rated us on Spotify or Apple Podcasts, and especially those of you who found us for our last episode or maybe the episode two weeks prior.
Ellen: Yeah, two weeks.
Bex: Timey-whimy has kind of hit. And shared the podcast that we did about Heated Rivalry. Apparently that has been our most popular episode. Um, so welcome to anyone who has stuck around to listen to us talk about 9-1-1.
Ellen: Yay. Welcome,
Alice: welcome, welcome.
Bex: We’ve had several, uh, comments on not only our website at thatweewooshow.com, but on our Spotify, uh, episode track listing.
Um, and also on ao3, uh, which is slightly [00:02:00] mind boggling, but, um, thank you to everyone who’s left comments. Um, to explain this week’s slightly bizarre introduction, um, friend of the podcast Pigeon has been continuing to leave epic comments on our website and was talking about animals in relation to llamas and alpacas, I believe with regards to
Ellen: Yeah, they’re almost caught up
Bex: “Desperate Times”.
Ellen: Yeah.
Bex: For in the season five episode “Desperate Times” and in discussing whether the, um. The spirit of the animal increases as the size of the animal decreases. Um, they suggested that perhaps the one of us who works in the pet store and who keeps Autumn would have a better idea.
Ellen: So that’s how Alice is identifying from now on.
Alice: Yeah.
Bex: Alice is now identifying as the one who keeps Autumn, um, which also made us very [00:03:00] curious about if Alice is the one who keeps autumn. Um, pigeon, if you’ve caught up, um, and anybody else who’s listening is also free to answer this question. How else would you, how would you identify the rest of us? Or do you have other identifiers for Alice as well?
Um, Ellen suggested that perhaps I am the one with the soapbox. Um, I’d be curious to see if anybody agrees with that.
Ellen: Well, it’s just, you’re usually the one who’s telling us what’s wrong with things.
Bex: I’m usually the one up on the soapbox ranting. Yeah. Look, it’s a, it’s a fair label. I’m not going to deny that it’s fair.
Um, so yes. Uh, if you are listening to this week’s episode and you are a regular listener and you’ve become, to be able to know a little bit about the three of us, tell us how you identify us when you’re listening. Or if you were going to explain to somebody who we are, how would you identify us? How would you explain us?
God, how would you explain us?
Alice: That’s a great que… [00:04:00] yep.
Ellen: I mean, good luck, honestly. No, but we’ve gotta say thank you to Okay. I’ve got my list here. Let me just find it again. Big thank you, of course, to Kiera, who always leaves comments, um, mostly on, on Blue Sky. We love you. Thank you. I’m glad you had a fun time at the con.
Um, we have comments from Toni, from Divyesh, Sylvie. Yay. More people are listening. Hooray. And, um, and of course Pigeon. So thank you to all those people. And yeah, you can, like, if, if you’re listening along and you wanna like, talk back to us, like tell us what you think about things, um, in a, in a friendly way, hopefully, um, hopefully you’re not, you don’t wanna yell at us about anything.
Um, please, there’s lots of different ways that you can send us comments. So either on their website or on via Spotify. YouTube, like social media, bunch of different ways. So please do. We love it.
Alice: We do. We um, we really do. We share the [00:05:00] comments and we comment on the comments, and then we’re just like, oh, we should probably actually reply to them. Um, but yeah, we have a great time.
Ellen: All right. We better get back to 9-1-1 then.
Bex: Oh, yes. Let’s get back to 9-1-1. Um, Alice
Ellen: Bit of enthusiasm here, come on,
Bex: uh, of all of the, of, all of the episodes to have to come back to though, honestly. Uh, Alice, if you can remember what happened last week, could you remind the rest of us?
Alice: Yeah, so last week on 9-1-1, uh, Chim arrived in Boston and caught up with Eli, the paramedic who trained him. Karen confronted Eva and Harry confronted his fear of Jeffrey
Ellen: and there were no ghosts.
Alice: There were no ghosts, all very confusing. There were no stories about ghosts either.
Bex: I did read something about that particular plot line that was dropped from that episode.
Ellen: Oh yeah?
Bex: Um, but I’m going to leave it until we do our season five wrap up [00:06:00] because it’s going to contain spoilers for the rest of the season. Okay. So I’ll put a pin in that and we’ll come back to it.
Alice: Interesting.
Ellen: Alright, so this episode is about episode eight, um, of season five, which is called “Defend in Place”, which aired, um, November 15th in 2021.
And the official summary, uh, says that La Monde Byrd guest stars, I’m not sure who that is.
Bex: Dr. David Hale.
Ellen: Oh, okay. Okay. Now I feel bad because I probably should know who that is. Alright.
Bex: I don’t, I just know that he plays David.
Ellen: Official summary says Bobby and the 118 race to save lives after an explosion rocks the hospital where Dr. David Hale, guest star La Monde Byrd is
Bex: perform. Okay. So if you just kept reading, you would’ve figured it out.
Ellen: Yes, I would’ve, but I didn’t read that far to start with um, meanwhile, he, he’s performing surgery. Meanwhile, Michael makes a life-changing decision [00:07:00] and the triggers for this episode include a cancer ward, um, a hospital explosion and a fire people and children at threat.
A patient death but not children. We promise. And so does Nikki on our trigger page, um, and surgery, quite graphic brain surgery, which I had to keep looking away from because Ugh. No, thank you.
Bex: It was so fake looking though.
Ellen: It was, but I mean, it’s just the idea of, uh, anyway, nevermind.
Bex: Okay.
Ellen: We can talk about it later when it comes along.
Bex: So it was written by Taylor Wong, directed by James Wong. James is known to, he is written, he’s directed episodes of 9-1-1 before. He’s, um, really good at the suspense ’cause he used to write with Glen Morgan on the X-Files. Um, and he’s also, I know him from Final Destination. [00:08:00]
Alice: Ah, right. Yeah. Cool.
Bex: So. Good director, um, I think Taylor and James Wright and direct their pairs on this show quite a bit. So they work well together.
Ellen: Right. Well, they, they’ve done a great job with this episode. ’cause it was, I thought it was really exciting. Like the whole thing was great. There were parts of it that possibly took longer than I would’ve liked if I’m being really picky. But on the whole, it was, um, really great.
Bex: And then again, I think that’s the what actually happens in the writer’s room and how many people actually contribute and say what goes on in an episode and then who puts their name to it, and then how much input does the showrunner have on what goes on?
Ellen: Yeah.
Bex: So perhaps, mayhaps the blame cannot be put solely on these two.
Ellen: Yeah. Well that might also be that they, um, feel like there was more time than they had sort of story to [00:09:00] film, and so they had to pat it out a little bit with extra footage of stuff like, I don’t know.
Bex: Oh, 100% I would believe that. Yeah.
Ellen: But on the whole, it was, it was, I, I was, you know, on the edge of my seat the whole time. And also the beginning part of this episode is, is very funny.
Bex: It’s,
Ellen: well, obviously the very beginning is not funny because they’re showing,
Bex: well, not the very beginning.
Ellen: They’re showing the hurricane damage in Haiti, and that’s
Alice: hurricanes overseas. Just hilarious.
Ellen: That’s very devastating. That part is not the funny part.
Alice: God, Ellen,
Bex: the sad thing is that I went to look to see which disaster in Haiti that this was possibly based on, um, pretty much a natural disaster hits Haiti every week.
Alice: Yeah, yeah.
Bex: Um,
Ellen: they get a lot of hurricanes.
Bex: There’s this constant flooding, earthquakes, hurricanes, the, the country is just like absolutely [00:10:00] battered and besieged with natural disasters. So I can’t pinpoint to one of them and go, yes, this was the hurricane of, you know, 2016, because it could very well be the one in 2020. Who knows?
Alice: Yeah.
Bex: Um,
Ellen: yeah. Okay. Um, speaking of hurricanes, uh, if there’s, there’s a chance that I may not be able to cut out the fact that there’s a storm going on at my house at the moment, so if you can hear thunder in the background, that’s, I’m sorry.
Just saying. Um, okay. So, so
Alice: just in case. Yeah.
Ellen: Um, okay. So where are we? So there, Michael and, and David are watching on the TV watching the footage and the, um, you know, the, apparently they’re still recovering from a devastating earthquake that happened in August and now they’ve had a hurricane. So, and Michael is quite flippant about this. He’s like, “Why would anyone wanna live in a place where they have so like in the path of constant hurricanes?” And David [00:11:00] is not impressed with his flippancy,
Alice: not even a little bit. Um,
Ellen: he’s just like, side you majorly
Alice: “because shit’s so good here.” And Michael’s like, oh yeah, shit. Um, and then he is like, you know what? I’m going to Haiti don’t even wanna talk to you.
Ellen: LA in this universe does get a lot of natural disasters and things going wrong.
Alice: Yeah, right.
Bex: And unnatural disasters.
Alice: No, cyber attacks are totally natural.
Bex: Beenados are natural.
Alice: Yes. It’s a totally natural disaster. Bees are natural. Nados are natural. I don’t understand the issue here.
Bex: Nados?
Alice: Nados.
Ellen: Look, I know Australians will shorten anything, but I don’t think we call them Nados.
Alice: You don’t like my Nados?
Bex: Okay. That sounds dirty. Moving on.
Alice: I didn’t just finish Heated Rivalry again last yesterday. I don’t know what to ask. What’re you accusing me of
Ellen: Alright, well, um, [00:12:00] David has seen the devastation there and he has decided that he’s going to, oh my God, the thunder.
Alice: Well he, he apparently had friends that asked him, because, you know, I constantly have, I mean, he is a brain surgeon to be fair. So it makes more sense that he does have people asking him to go to Haiti, I guess.
Bex: Yes. And apparently this is not the first time, I’m guessing that every time a natural disaster hits Haiti and it’s, the country is devastated, he would have his friends say, Hey, will you come out and help?
Um, but this time he actually has a reason they need him. The writers need him to leave the country. Um, so this time he’s said yes, he’s gonna leave.
Alice: Like, Hey bro, come to Haiti. It’s really popping off right now. And he’s just like, nah, I’m tired. And finally he is like, you know what? Should just go see my friends. Just go hang in Haiti.
Ellen: Yeah. I don’t think there’ll be much holidaying happening there at that, at this point in time, but Michael’s reaction is really weird. He is. Michael’s just [00:13:00] like, what do you mean, you know, you’re going
Bex: Making it about himself?
Alice: Like, yeah. Like, he is like, I mean, this, this is a really dumb thing, right?
So like, normally if you are in a committed relationship, like they’re living together at this point, they, you hold, um, and like you’ve decided to make, like maybe sit your partner down and be like, “Hey, so like I’ve had friends that have asked me to go to Haiti to help with the relief efforts. Um, it’ll probably just be for this long, let’s open a discussion about it.”
But instead, David’s just like, yeah, I’m gonna Haiti for a month or two. Bye
Bex: making a unilateral decision.
Alice: Yeah. Yeah. And Michael’s just like, wait, what? So like, I don’t blame Michael here for immediately being like, “so you’re leaving me?” Um, because he’s shocked.
Ellen: Yeah, that’s a fair point.
Alice: Like it’s, it’s very much like David’s not thinking about them. He’s thinking about him and he is like trying to like shrug it off as like, oh, I’m being so selfless, I’m going to Haiti. But it’s just like, you didn’t even speak [00:14:00] to the guy you live with. Like you should probably at least clue him in.
Ellen: Yeah.
Bex: I mean maybe, uh, we’re absolutely reaching because David has had very, very little impact on this see this show.
Um, so we dunno a lot about him, but maybe he’s feeling that perhaps Michael has more of a relationship with, oh, I don’t know Bobby than he does with David. And David’s like, you’re not even gonna miss me because you know, you’re gonna have your games partner and you’re the partner Bobby Detective agency. Yes.
Ellen: You still have the, the other parts of your family that you spend a lot of time with. So,
Alice: um, I do just wanna mention that. Yeah, he’s like, David says that he’s going for a month or two or maybe longer. We, spoiler alert, David’s got like, it’s like we never see him again. Like it’s been years now. David who?
Ellen: Yeah.
Alice: But um, yeah, so Michael’s like, oh my God, you’re leaving me? And David’s like, yeah, it’s only for a while. Like if you wanna be mad at someone, blame yourself. It’s like, okay, cool. [00:15:00] Um, he basically like blames Michael for the fact that he introduced him to the 118 and I guess Athena, um, who never hesitate to rush into an emergency and it’s rubbed off.
Ellen: Mm-hmm.
Alice: Michael says that he is in love with David, blah, blah, blah. We don’t care. Um, we go to the Bathena residence and we’ve got Athena, Harry, and Mei playing Jenga, um, outside while Bobby’s grilling, and Michael’s just like there. So this is obviously like a time skip after the title card.
Bex: Yeah.
Alice: And Michael’s just like holding like salad stuff and just staring at them awkwardly. And even Athena, it’s very, is like Michael quit loitering. Like, what the fuck are you doing?
Ellen: Yeah, what’re you doing, standing around over there?
Bex: It’s, it’s like on the outside looking in, looking wistfully at this family that I, I don’t even know. Um, but it’s also because maybe he’s bracing himself because he’s making a big announcement to the family.
He, um, [00:16:00] he tells them that David is going to Haiti and um, he’s leaving next week. Everyone’s like, oh, that’s amazing. How do you feel about it? And Michael’s like, I’m fucking panicking, so I’m gonna propose to him. I’m gonna put a ring on his finger before he leaves. So he has a reason to come back.
Ellen: They’re all staring at him, kind of shocked.
Um,
Bex: um, but yeah, May is incredibly happy. I think Bobby is going to be supportive no matter what, because he’s, you know, Bobby, um. Harry is being a typical pre-teen, he’s like, oh, great, now I’m gonna have three dads. Father’s day’s gonna suck this year.
Alice: Literally like, Father’s day’s gonna be hard this year.
Bex: Um, Athena’s a little bit more skeptical.
Ellen: Yeah.
Bex: And I think
Ellen: I’m like, Athena, come on. Be happy for him.
Bex: She very, very reluctantly congratulates Michael on. Um, [00:17:00]
Ellen: do you think she’s feeling like, you know, a bit sore from like, the fact that David was the one that he left? No. Hang on. Then he met David after they’d broken up. So
Bex: he met David after, I feel like it’s, but
Alice: Athena’s like, I’m the only one about allowed to get remarried. No, I think Athena’s just like, oh, you’re rushing into things. But Athena also rushed into her marriage with Bobby. So
Bex: it might be that she’s been happy having, ’cause she’s kind of been able to have a cake and eat it too. So, you know, Michael’s got off doing his gay stuff, but he’s still part of the family. He’s still, he’s still outta the
Alice: He’s off doing his gay stuff
Bex: house the entire time.
Alice: He’s, he’s, he’s off watching the NHL all the time.
Bex: Um, and she’s probably worried that if he marries David that he’s not gonna be part of their family anymore. He’s gonna start his own family. Um, I don’t know. But, um, she kind of deflects attention away from herself and her [00:18:00] skepticism by asking Michael the important question, which is, how are you gonna propose?
And apparently today, uh, Michael has come to the decision that he is going to propose. He worked up the courage to tell his family that he was gonna propose and never thought beyond that.
Alice: Yep.
Ellen: I love how he, uh, when they say, how are you gonna propose to him? And the camera stays on him, but you hear everyone else in the background going, “Oh, he doesn’t know. He, he’s got no idea.”
Bex: Because he’s freaking the fuck out.
Ellen: He’s like, um…
Bex: Um, and then we get montage, maybe montage one of, I’m gonna say three for this episode? A lot of montages in this episode.
Alice: They needed to fill time somehow, apparently.
Bex: They really did. Yeah. Um, so we see cutting back and forth between Michael and Athena assessing what Michael is going to wear, and Michael and the kids helping him [00:19:00] pick the object with which he’s going to propose.
Ellen: I’m like, thank, thank God that he, they didn’t leave it all to him because every, like, every suggestion he has, they don’t like, in everything they suggest, he’s like, really? But eventually they, they do settle on, they, they’re looking at rings.
Bex: Yeah, but can we just mention they’re looking at rings because Michael called someone and had a jeweler at his house with a giant display case of like engagement rings, men’s engagement rings.
Ellen: Yeah. Within a couple of hours.
Bex: Yeah. Michael picks like this giant ring with a massive diamond on it. And Michael and May are cooing over it. And Harry screws up his face and he goes, “David hates diamonds.”
Alice: Yeah. Like, Michael, have you met this guy?
Bex: And Michael’s like, I think, I think I would know my fiance better than you. How do you know? And he is like, I, I paid attention when David was talking.
Alice: Yeah, Harry’s gonna make a great boyfriend one day, [00:20:00]
Bex: but, um, um, but they end up, I I do love that it, that when it comes to the sort of the rings, um, rhetorically, Michael says, can’t I just propose with a nice watch? And the jeweler reaches down and pulls at another giant box, puts it on the table and it’s full of like men’s watches.
Alice: Nice watches. Yeah.
Bex: Like here’s some we prepared earlier. Apparently this is a common route that people take and he was prepared. Um, so yes, we are left with the impression that he’s going to propose with a nice watch, which I think is a better option for a surgeon because if he’s doing surgery, he’s not gonna be able to wear his ring. Whereas he might be able to get away with wearing a watch.
Alice: I mean, some of them, a lot of them wear a ring like on a chain around their neck, but
Bex: Yes. Yeah, that’s, I was thinking that. But you know, he, I, I feel like a watch is a, as a more appropriate for David.
Alice: I don’t think they’re allowed to wear watches during surgery [00:21:00] either. ’cause they’ve got a scrub of right up to the elbow. But anyway, um, maybe he’ll just put the watch on a chain around his neck.
Bex: But you can like stick your, stick your watch. It, it just, I’m sticking with the watch is more appropriate and you, I will not be swayed on this point.
Alice: It’s just like, ’cause um, like my mom was a nurse. My um, cousin is a nurse and midwife and they have like the little pocket watches that hang on the scrubs because you can’t wear watches. Mm-hmm. So I’m like, a watch is a terrible idea. Michael, what are you doing?
Bex: Everything is a terrible idea actually. Maybe they should get matching tattoos.
Alice: No, A ring’s fine ’cause they can wear it on… anyway. Um, except just not a diamond ring.
Bex: Yes. Um, and while this is going on, Michael is also on a, um, a call with Athena, um, who is vetoing every single outfit that he shows her.
Alice: Literally every single one. Yeah.
Bex: Although, [00:22:00] funnily enough, um, whoever was in control of putting up the photos on the phone for these scenes kind of fucked up because we get to start with three different photos and Athena’s like, no, hell no, no. Then we cut back to her continuing to scroll through. Then she stops and goes, oh, this one’s nice. And it’s the same photo that she went no to in the first scene.
Alice: It’s the, it’s the best of, um, the best of all the bad options. Okay?
Bex: Like she’s already dismissed it and then she’s come back to it and gone, oh yeah, no, that one’s great.
But anyway, they end up, he, um, ends up picking a, a suit without a tie. ’cause apparently that makes him look like a maitre d’, um, we don’t find out what he picked as far as a ring or a watch is concerned. Um, but we do then cut to him pulling up into the hospital parking lot. ’cause he’s,
Alice: why is he doing it at the [00:23:00] hospital?
Bex: No, he’s picking up David from his shift.
Alice: Right.
Bex: So I think the idea is David’s gonna finish this brain surgery. Michael’s gonna pick him up, take him for a nice dinner and he’ll propose at dinner.
Alice: It’s also really funny because like we cut back to like one hour earlier, but David’s like not anywhere close to done. So like how early did Michael arrive or like, anyway, it’s just amusing.
Ellen: He was just gonna wait outside the surgery like room?
Bex: Pretty much.
Alice: Maybe because like, da, like we cut back to
Ellen: the surgery room. I mean the operating theater.
Alice: The operating theater, um, we knew really, like, we get like a, we get a flashback and it’s one hour earlier. Yes. And David’s literally like, this procedure should take two hours. Like he’s so he hasn’t even, like, he’s technically like halfway through almost, because like, it takes him a while to get into surgery and then like he’s got like, write all the notes I assume? [00:24:00] I’m assuming they don’t just finish surgery and walk straight out, like they get changed and like do stuff.
Ellen: Yeah, Michael is way too early.
Alice: Michael is at least an hour and a half early. Um, which is why I was like, is he proposing in the hospital? Like
Bex: he’s probably like gonna spend the hour pacing around the parking lot, preparing his speech.
Alice: Yeah.
Ellen: He’s gotta just psych himself up. We see the beginning of it,
That’s what he
Bex: starts doing. Yeah.
Like it’s what he starts doing. He starts rehearsing. Um, you know, he starts talking about, you know, blessed and privileged to be able to spend this life with you forever. Um, unfortunately for him, his recitation gets interrupted because a window, um, in the hospital building just randomly explodes with a massive fire.
Alice: Yeah, like, it’s so big. It knocks Michael off his feet and he’s on the ground. So it’s, it’s a huge explosion.
Bex: It is, it’s a massive explosion that only comes out of one window. Um,
Alice: how big do you think their special effects budget is? Okay? [00:25:00] They wasted it all on hiring, llamas. Alpacas? Alpacas,
Bex: alpacas. Um, and then that’s, that’s how we get our one hour earlier.
We do, we flash back to what was going on in the hospital one hour earlier and for twofold, uh, one so that we can meet all of the characters whose stories we are going to be following during the, um, ensuing disaster. And also to find out what the hell actually happened to cause said massive explosion in the hospital.
Ellen: Yeah.
Bex: Um, so yes, David’s gonna be doing brain surgery. That’s, that’s,
Alice: that’s his job.
Bex: Like we meet, we, we meet the characters, but like I don’t actually care about them. I
Alice: don’t care about them at all.
Bex: No, they’re, they’re not important. The important thing is that David has to do brain surgery.
Alice: I care about exactly one back, like one NPC in this episode. And when we get to them, I’ll like point them out. But, um, yeah, I care about exactly one NPC and it’s, it’s [00:26:00] not, it’s not even, it’s not David, it’s not Maya. It’s not whoever the fuck,
Ellen: it’s not even the babies.
Alice: I haven’t got there yet.
Ellen: Oh, okay. Fine. We meet the guy who is going to be, have his skull cut open and bit of, um, you know, reassurance there. But that, that part goes on for ages. And his wife is like worried and David tells her everything’s gonna be fine. We’re going to, it’s gonna be easy. No problem. All good.
Bex: He promises. Oh no.
Alice: Which as we know from all medical shows, that’s a terrible idea. You never promise
Bex: anything. You never promise anybody anything.
Alice: “We’re gonna take good care of him. That’s a promise.”
Bex: So that’s storyline number one, which I’m calling the, like the David story thread.
Alice: Yeah. ‘
Bex: cause I don’t actually care about the other characters. It’s all about David,
Alice: to be fair, Darren’s not awake for most of it, so like who cares?
Bex: Exactly. [00:27:00] Um, story thread number two is what I’ve been calling the Callie story thread.
Alice: Mm-hmm.
Bex: Who is a, a nurse in the hospital. Um, and when we first meet her, she’s getting into an elevator with a bunch of balloons that have got congratulations written on them. Um, turns out she works on the cancer ward and one of her patients is graduating? I don’t know.
Alice: Yeah. Let’s go with graduating. Yeah, I like it.
Bex: They’re, they have successfully, one of her patients has successfully beat cancer and is, uh, finished with their treatments. And they’re doing a, a ceremony where he is going to ring a bell and apparently get balloons.
Ellen: Yeah. It’s, I remember when my, my grandmother had breast cancer and she got to ring the bell and it was a very happy day.
Alice: Oh, there’s actually a bell’s so cute.
Ellen: Oh yeah. It’s a real thing. [00:28:00]
Bex: Oh yeah. This is a big thing. Yeah,
Ellen: yeah.
Alice: Oh, that’s cute.
Ellen: And everyone like has to stand there and, and cheer and stuff up when you ring the bell. So this, this is really, this really happens. I mean, I don’t think you have to give a speech.
Bex: No.
Ellen: But you, you just ring the bell and everyone cheers. So, yeah.
Bex: Uh, so the patient who is ringing the bell is an older gentleman named Rupert, and throughout this entire scene, he’s got this blue envelope in his hands that he keeps like fiddling with and playing with. Um, and it kind of goes in and out of his pocket, the entire scene.
Ellen: Mm-hmm.
Bex: So then he rings the bell, which then segues us over to storyline number three, which is the Parker storyline.
Parker is a little boy who is also getting outta the elevator at the same time and asks sister if he could hear a bell ringing.
Alice: Um, yeah. Parker is the only character I care about in this whole episode that’s like not, you know, a main character, um, because he wants cake and hates babies. So like, 10 outta 10 Parker.[00:29:00]
Ellen: Okay. Fair enough.
Alice: Um, so yeah, he, like his dad says, it sounds like a celebration. Parker immediately goes, “maybe there’s cake.”
Bex: Parker is also the reason that the hospital explodes.
Alice: Yeah. That, that’s a, you know,
Bex: In a butterfly effect kind of way.
Alice: The janitor probably shouldn’t have an open can of chemicals on the ground.
Ellen: Yeah. There was a few different reasons why that,
Alice: like, I blame the janitor entirely for this. Just saying,
Ellen: yeah, he bumps into the janitor’s cart and knocks over whatever that is. A can of stuff goes all over the floor.
Bex: Look, it’s a can of,
Alice: I’m pretty sure it’s a can of petrol at this point.
Ellen: Yeah, I mean
Bex: it’s some kind of cleaning fluid lubricant, whatever it is it’s flammable
Alice: TURPs. Maybe they’re cleaning out paint for some reason? Yeah,
Ellen: yeah.
Alice: I dunno.
Ellen: Yeah, they have, you know, they apologize and the janitor’s like, no problem.
Alice: [00:30:00] Just look where you’re going. I have open, um, open containers where I shouldn’t have open containers.
Ellen: Oh yeah. There’s an extended section where, where David is prepping for, for the, you know, the surgery. So he’s, you know, washing his hands, opening the door with his shoulder instead of his hands, and
Bex: yada, yada yada. They’re, they’re really trying hard to make his sections very, um, I swear they’re trying to make him Mc Dreamy. And they’re trying to like do a whole Greys Anatomy thing with him.
Alice: Pretty much. He even says it’s a beautiful day to save lives. It’s really weird. Um,
Bex: no, but he has his own little speech.
Alice: He does have his own speech, and then he like presses play on the music and it’s “Chasing Cars”. It’s really strange.
Bex: Shush.
Ellen: It’s even better than that.
Bex: I was getting McDreamy vibes.
Alice: No, they were absolutely trying to do. Yeah. They were absolutely trying to do a Grey’s Anatomy thing here.
It’s weird.
Bex: Yeah.
Ellen: Well, you know, they’ve gotta give him as much screen time as they can because this is his last episode.
Alice: This is the most screen time had the entire [00:31:00] like series.
Ellen: Yeah.
Alice: But anyway, yeah. So he’s prepping for surgery. Um, we go back to Rupert and Callie the nurse, um, Rupert seems awfully quiet. Um, Callie’s like, “oh, I thought you’d be happy to see the last of this place.”
And Rupert says he’s just naturally moody and Callie’s like, “We’re all gonna miss you.” Um, yeah. So Rupert’s got this envelope still. He’s like fiddling with it. He, I was really weirded out by this, like, he’s like, oh, Callie, like, I wanted to, and then Callie like gets distracted by a woman pushing a trolley and is like, oh, do you like, do you, what were you saying?
And Rupert’s like, oh, nevermind. I was like, this guy. So Rupert is like twice Callie’s age.
Ellen: It’s a little, little creepy.
Bex: Were you expecting a love confession?
Alice: I seriously was expecting a love confession. I’m like, what the fuck are they doing? Who cast this? Like, it’s just really weird. Like he’s all nervous.
He’s holding Callie’s balloons, he’s like fiddling with his envelope [00:32:00] and then like, we’ll get to the end, but it’s like, it’s not a love confession. And he’s acting like it’s literally just a thanks for being cool. It’s like, why are you so nervous?
Bex: Pretty much. Yeah.
Alice: Like, what?
Ellen: yeah.
Bex: I, I dunno. But yeah,
Alice: it’s fucking weird.
Ellen: It’s just embarrassed.
Alice: This whole thing is weird. Yeah, so Callie’s like, Bye Rupert!” And Rupert’s like, “Take care.” Um, and yeah, it’s just, it’s fucking weird. Like he’s so nervous to give this envelope that’s basically like a thumbs up.
Bex: Yeah.
Alice: Then this is where we get David’s speech.
Bex: No, not yet.
Alice: Oh, not yet. Oh no, they’re talking about Haiti still, aren’t they?
Bex: Yeah. So apparently everybody but Michael knew about Haiti, which is fine. So they are about to start the surgery. We then cut to back to the Parker storyline and we find out why he’s in the hospital because his mom has just had his a baby, his little baby sister, um, which he is not impressed with.
Alice: Not even a little bit. He’s like, Ew, a baby and she’s a girl. Like, [00:33:00] gross
Bex: is, yeah. Is it that she’s a baby or is it she’s a girl? And he doesn’t know what to do with girls.
Alice: Both?
Ellen: Maybe.
Alice: Um, but yeah, maybe his dad tells him that. Like, tells Parker that he’s her big brother and all he has to do is love and protect her. And he takes this job very seriously.
Bex: Oh,
Alice: he’s a very, that’s obedient child.
Bex: He is Dean Winchester in this stage.
Alice: Oh, a hundred. Like, it’s literally like, take your brother out. Like, except this time it’s a girl. Yes. “Take your sister outside as fast as you can. Now, Parker, now!”
Bex: Like you had one job, Dean that keeps Sammy safe. It’s like keeps Sophia safe.
Alice: Keep Sophia safe.
Bex: Uh, listeners who have been with us for a while, please be reassured that no matter how rotted our brains get with Heated Rivalry, the Supernatural brain rot is always going to be there.
Alice: Oh, I can’t even remember if I mentioned in the Heated Rivalry episode that I started watching it because of Supernatural. Because I was like, yeah, yeah. Like if I squint, the Russian can be Cas. It’s [00:34:00] fine.
Bex: No, he’s not at all.
Alice: That was not fine. I don’t know what happened. The world has been taken over.
Bex: Um, so after Parker, we cut back to David and this is where we get the, “it’s a beautiful day to save lives” 9-1-1 edition. Um, the actual speech that David gives is, “We might remember, we might feel like gods, but we are not. Let’s have faith in science and each other.”
And then surgeon picks the music. So the nurse hits play on the, um, the CD player or whatever it is, the music device in the or. Um, and “Rappers Delight” by the Sugar Hill Gang starts to play.
Ellen: I love it so much. I just laughed and laughed. I mean,
Bex: which, what, what were you saying that it, it reminds you of?
Ellen: It’s, it’s kind of a banger, but I can’t hear this song anymore [00:35:00] without thinking of, um, “The Ketchup Song”.
You know, the what? The, oh, I have to play it for you. Okay. So this, I think this was on “Spicks and Specks” or something one time when I, when I found out about this and I was like, oh my God, it is too! So in “The Ketchup Song”, I, I can’t sing it for you, but look it up and listen to it.
Bex: Drop a link in the,
Alice: I think I know what you’re talking about.
Ellen: And, and the, the, the question on Spicks and Specks I think was, what is the, what does this mean? Because it’s by like a Spanish group, right? And it’s not anything, it’s just nonsense words. And it’s like these, it’s like the people who don’t know how to speak English, trying to sing “Rapper’s Delight”.
Alice: It’s the song that I thought. Yeah,
Ellen: and if you listen to the, listen to it, it is, it’s the same thing. It’s just, yeah, it just makes me laugh every time.
Bex: Okay. ’cause the only thing I know like that I have associated with “Rapper’s Delight” is Betty White from that Adam Sandler eighties movie.
Ellen: Oh [00:36:00] yeah. Okay.
Bex: Where she gets up and, and and does the rap. Oh, Las Ketchup. Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I know Las Ketchup. But why, why is that associated with “Rapper’s Delight”?
Ellen: Because the words in the chorus are this, are the same, are the words in, in this, but it’s not like they don’t understand English, so they’re just making sounds that sound kind of like the hip, the hop, the hip, you know, like the words of the, of this song.
Bex: Isn’t that Spanish though? Because
Ellen: No,
Bex: but
Alice: I see what you mean. It’s just that “I say, huh?” That part.
Bex: It doesn’t mean anything?
Ellen: I mean, I don’t speak Spanish, so I don’t know if the people on Spicks and Specks may have lied to me about this, but, um, that’s what they said.
Alice: They would never,
Ellen: so,
Bex: okay. Wikipedia is, is [00:37:00] Wikipedia is also saying that it’s, it’s Spanglish. That “The Ketchup”, oh my God. “The Ketchup Song” is about a young man named Diego who enters a nightclub. The DJ, a friend of Diego plays Diego’s favorite song, “Rapper’s Delight” by the Sugar Hill Gang, and Diego dances and sings along imitating the chorus with Spanish gibberish.
Um, Aserejé is therefore a meaningless word with the chorus “Aserejé de” being a somewhat incorrect imitation of the original song’s chorus “I said a hip hop the hippie to the hippie to the hip hip hop”. Oh my God.
Alice: Oh my God, that’s so funny. You need to a apologize
Ellen: I’m so glad I remembered that correctly!
Alice: to Adam Hills for thinking that he misled you.
Ellen: I mean, I’m, I’m just like telling this story going, am I just making this up? Like is this bullshit? No, actually it’s true.
Bex: Oh my God. Okay.
Ellen: So now whenever I hear the original song. I’m like, now I just [00:38:00] think about “The Ketchup Song”.
Alice: Oh, that’s so funny.
Bex: Okay. I’ve learned something new today.
Ellen: I hope lots of people have learned something new.
Bex: Uh, but yeah, it’s just, it seems a very incon, um, a very,
Ellen: it’s a weird song to play while you’re doing brain surgery.
Bex: It’s a weird song to play for surgery. Yeah.
Ellen: It’s, I mean, okay. That’s, if that’s what he likes and what gets him in the, in the zone then. Okay.
Alice: I just, I just gotta say quickly too. So I opened up YouTube to play “the Ketchup Song” and the like, um. The recommended videos on the side are like 90% just Hudson short films now
Ellen: I wonder why
Alice: I’m like, oh, I’ve seen this one. I’ve seen this one. I’ve seen this. Oh, I haven’t seen that one yet.
Bex: Okay, so David’s about to start surgery to the hip hop, the hippie to the hippie
Alice: to “The Ketchup Song”. He’s doing the dance. It’s, it’s strange. [00:39:00]
Bex: Um, we cut back to the Parker storyline where a nurse has come to take the baby for tests and what the fuck? Because the nurse just scoops the baby out of mom’s arms and starts walking outta the room with it still in her arms. Yeah. What is the name for the little plastic wheelie thing that they put babies in and why don’t they have one?
Alice: I think it’s literally just a bassinet, but yeah. Like, shouldn’t she be, maybe this hospital’s really underfunded. Um, but yeah, like why would you carry it? What if you trip?
Bex: Exactly.
Alice: What if someone bumps into you?
Bex: You put the baby in the bassinet thingy and you wheel her around the hospital.
Alice: Yeah.
Ellen: Oh.
Bex: I mean, I would’ve thought that they’d be doing the tests in the room. ’cause like what kind of tests do they need to do that require her to be relocated?
But yeah, my biggest thing was why are you literally carrying the baby? Why isn’t she in a bassinet?
Alice: I, so I started The Pitt the day before yesterday. Um,
Bex: yes! It’s so good, isn’t it?
Alice: Who was, was it Pigeon that told me to [00:40:00] watch it?
Bex: Yes.
Alice: Um,
Bex: yes.
Alice: So shout out to Pigeon. I started watching it. Um, my cousin is a midwife and so I was staying in my cousin’s house and I was like, oh, while I’m surrounded by all this medical vibes, my cousin wasn’t even there.
Um, while I’m surrounded by all the medical vibes, I will watch
Ellen: the medical energy in this place,
Alice: the medical energy in this. Yep. Um, I decided to watch The Pitt and um, yeah, so my cousin, like I’d let my cousin know that I started watching The Pitt ’cause I know that she’s seen it and she’s like, “oh my God, the childbirth scene is so,” so she’s a midwife.
Literally, she delivers babies. That’s her job. Um
Ellen: mm-hmm.
Alice: I know Americans don’t really have like, it’s not as big of a thing, but like here it’s not our doctors that deliver the babies, it’s the midwives and the, um, yeah. Anyway, so she cracked it at the baby birth se because she’s like, none of this, none of this is correct.
She’s like, all of it is so accurate compared to like most medical shows. And then it gets to the baby birth scene and none of it is accurate,
Bex: but is it accurate for America? Is it,
Alice: this is what [00:41:00] I said, and she’s like, no, because it should still be so the obstetrician like comes down and is like, oh, you’re all good here.
And then like leaves again. And it’s like, it’s not all good. Like, why is it the emergency doctor doing this when it should be the obstetrician? Like it should not be. Um, oh my God, I’ve forgotten his name already and I’ve just started watching it.
Bex: Which one? The main one. Rob. It should
Alice: Ravi, it should be Ravi doing it.
It should be the obstetrician. Um, and instead she just comes down, looks and goes, yeah, cool. And then leaves, and she’s like, what the fuck? Like, they, one, they should have more, but like more obstetricians, but whatever. Um, two, why are you not doing your job? Like, this is literally your job and why are you not doing it?
So I got this whole spiel. I’m really sad that she’s asleep right now, like my cousin’s asleep right now because I would just show her like the scene of them carrying the baby and she would be like, what the fuck? Yeah. Like, what is she doing?
Bex: Anyway, so yes, so nurse literally decides to carry said child [00:42:00] around the ward. Um, Parker has internalized the, I must protect my sister message that his dad literally just gave him and gets all defensive and like, where is she taking my sister? Um, the nurse is just like, “I’m just gonna take her for some tests. You can come with me.”
Alice: Literally just takes the, to the child, the other child with like, what, what?
Bex: Yeah.
Alice: What, what? No, what?
Ellen: Yeah. We don’t need the other kids running around the hospital
Bex: For the drama, yes. But realistically no.
Ellen: Yeah. So the, the dad is totally okay with the nurse just taking the other kid along,
Alice: just taking both the children, it’s fine
Ellen: and off they go.
Alice: Neither of the parents go. But yeah, just send the child. With, yeah. Anyway.
Ellen: Yeah.
Bex: Yeah,
Alice: sure that won’t be distracting. It’s not like this kid asks a lot of questions or, yeah. Anyway,
Ellen: meanwhile, David is slicing into the guy’s head and, um,
Bex: yep.
Ellen: I am looking through my fingers [00:43:00] because ugh,
Bex: the notes literally say David Surgery. I, I stopped caring.
Alice: Yeah.
Bex: Um,
Ellen: we do get quite a lot of surgery shots.
Bex: We do. Fucking hell we do. Um, we’re gonna go on a, a quick side quest here because we’re gonna hang out with the janitor for a little bit. Um, who is same spot that he was before, he’s now mopping up the spill of the whatever fluid it was from the can on the cart that Parker knocked over.
Um, when the woman from the elevator that Callie let, um, helped get her trolley into said elevator, um, apparently trolley is full of some kind of gas canisters and she needs to put them into the little storage room. Um, the door of which is where Theo is mopping up the, um, the spill
Alice: badly.
Bex: And we can see, we can see that the fluid has leaked through underneath the door into said storage [00:44:00] room.
Ellen: Oh dear.
Bex: So she goes, she goes in and we’ve kind of got little like, comedy of errors here. She, um, walks, she picks up one of the canisters of the trolley, walks into the storage room to put it onto the rack with the others. She slips like she stepped on a banana peel, goes flying backwards, drops the canister, and at such a precise and correct angle that it hits the, uh, the, the nozzle, um, twisty thing, um, which loosens said nozzle twisty thing.
Alice: Yep.
Bex: And starts releasing the gas, whatever gas it is, um, into the room.
Ellen: Yeah. It is like a perfect combination of consequences here.
Alice: It’s all just fuck ups after fuck ups after fuck up.
Bex: She, yeah. And then as well as that, so she slipped, she’s dropped the canister. The canister now releasing gas. Theo sees her slip, goes racing in to help her.
And between her and [00:45:00] Theo, I, I didn’t care enough to go back and track who did it, but someone dropped their keys directly on the jamb thingy that goes underneath the door that’s supposed to seal the door.
Alice: I think I assumed it was the janitor because he would have keys, but I also didn’t care. Yeah. Um,
Bex: yeah.
Alice: David’s still doing surgery at this point.
Bex: Yeah, he’s still doing surgery. Um, the, the, the woman finishes
Alice: the notes. I just like, we should really upload the notes every week just because they’re so funny. Oh, it literally is just like David surgery. David still surgery. David more surgery. Is is David doing some surgery, Bex, um,
Bex: oh, maybe, I don’t know. Um, answer unclear. Yeah. Um, so the woman finishes unloading all of the canisters from her little trolley and she goes to close the door, but wouldn’t you know it, the door won’t close.
Alice: Yeah. And instead of checking to see what they’re like, what might be preventing the door from closing, she just keeps [00:46:00] trying to slam it over and over.
Bex: And what is causing her to be able to unclose… unclose?
Alice: Unclose the door?
Bex: What is stopping her from being able to close the door is that set of keys. Um, and while we quickly check in to make sure that we know where all our other characters are, we’ve got Rupert still standing there with his balloons looking forlornly at this envelope. Um, we’ve got Parker with the nurse and his baby sister. Um,
Alice: oh, Parker is hilarious. The nurse who’s still just like chilling with the baby and like dribbling at like a ba a basketball, she’s like, “Oh, do you think you’re gonna like being a big brother?” And Parker’s just no. I love this kid.
Bex: Um,
Alice: like he’s like, this is already too much responsibility. I didn’t ask for this.
Bex: Didn’t sign up for this. Um, as Ella said, the woman doesn’t, you know, check why she can’t close the door. She just brute forces it.
Alice: Yeah,
Bex: just shoves the door shut, which drags key.
Alice: That’s, that’s what you want for a medical professional is just a brute force things that don’t work. [00:47:00]
Bex: So she, which brute forces the door, which drags the keys across metal, which causes a spark, which ignites the fluid, which then spreads to the gas canisters. Um, which causes massive explosion in the hospital.
Alice: And finally the episode gets good.
Bex: Um, and now we’re, we’re caught up to where we were previously.
Alice: Yeah. So’s a 9-1-1 call. It goes to Josh, which is very exciting. Josh hasn’t taken a, like, it hasn’t been Josh in a while, so I was like, well, it’s Josh. Um,
Ellen: yeah,
Alice: he, uh, the caller says, the caller actually says where they are. It wasn’t just like, oh my God, there’s been an explosion. Um, they say that it’s from,
Bex: well that’s because it’s a medical professional, like somebody who’s actually deals with emergency, so understands how to,
Alice: well, we dunno that it’s a medical professional. It could have been anyone, um, because there are a lot of calls coming through. But, um, yeah, they’re at the El Alvarado Alvarado Union Hospital. Um, there’s been an explosion. Send everything you’ve got. It’s bad. It’s really [00:48:00] bad. Um,
Bex: and then we get stock footage of the 118, which has been used in multiple episodes, um, of them getting in their trucks and rolling out as a dispatcher, tells us that there is a major explosion at the hospital. Um, they have calling at least three houses. Um,
Ellen: is it Linda? Sounds a bit like Linda.
Alice: I was
Bex: thought, I thought it was,
Alice: was it Claudette?
Bex: It wasn’t Claudette. She has a very specific voice.
Alice: No, no, she’s later. I’m thinking of the wrong,
Bex: so I thought I’m, I thought that this was Linda, but it’s, I’m just gonna go with a dispatcher in case I’m proven wrong later on.
Um, so three houses are responding, including the 118. They’re evacuating the hospital. Critical patients are no going to need to be transported to other hospitals. Um, they’re setting up a mobile commander, triage center, um, what those three houses are responding now and multiple units will follow.
And so then we get Bobby rolling up [00:49:00] and doing his exposition captain thing, which now that I’ve seen it, I can’t unsee it.
Alice: Yeah,
Ellen: yeah. Well, he, they just have to stay silent in the, in the truck. That’s the rule.
Alice: This isn’t as bad, like, to be fair, like they haven’t got that. So he’s now discussing, like now that they’re there it makes more sense. It’s not like, oh yes, we’re at a hospital that’s, that’s exploded.
He’s like these, like there’s no point going the explosion was on the fourth floor Charlie side because by the time they get there they’re gonna be like, where the fuck was the explosion? Whereas now that they can look at it, they’re like, oh, it’s there and there. Okay, good. Like we got it.
Bex: It does, it is a little bit more site specific and, but it is still the whole thing of they’ve rolled up, he jumps out and he’s immediately giving. Oh,
Alice: immediately talking. Yeah. That’s it.
Bex: Yeah.
Alice: Um, but yeah, apparently anyone who can walk has already been vacated. So I don’t know how far the 118 were from like we’re coming away from. Um, but the rest need the help starting with the nursery.
Bex: Yes. Josh has got his whiteboard out back in [00:50:00] dispatch. Um, they’ve got a running tally of all of the available hospitals and how many beds they have available so they can kind of check them off as they’re moving patients around.
Um, we hear a anonymous dispatcher, um, tell a unit to divert their patients to uh, one specific hospital. And then we hear Claudette go, “Uh, no you are not doing that. That hospital is full. You’re gonna go to this other hospital.”
Alice: Yeah. This is what I was thinking. ’cause she’s apparently like control of the board.
Bex: Yeah. Um. We were talking about the notes earlier, I would just like to let everybody know that I started writing this scene. Um, it took me a good, I think it, I think it was maybe the next time we get back to dispatch, um, which is maybe about 10 minutes later for me to remember what Claudette’s name was.
Ellen: I couldn’t remember her name either, but it’s been a while since we’ve seen her.
Bex: So yes, so we’ve got, we’ve [00:51:00] got, Josh is running the show. Claudette is being her usual overbearing self. We also have Linda there who’s just doing her job. So then we’re going
Ellen: They’re busy
Bex: to go back.
Ellen: It’s busy because a bunch of, like heaps of people are calling about it.
Bex: Yes, there’s lots of calls coming through. Um, Michael meanwhile is getting checked out at the command center by, uh, Paramedic Daniels, who we have never seen before. And as far as I’m aware, we’ll never see again.
Alice: Literally, I, I was so excited, I was like, oh my God, we get lines, we get a name, we get everything. And then she’d vanishes.
Bex: Yes.
Alice: She goes to Haiti.
Bex: Yes. I dunno.
Ellen: I mean that’s, is, that, is that why, where everyone who leaves the show goes to Haiti, like is just like, you know like in, um, Agents of Shield and they all talk about Tahiti all the time.
Alice: Yeah.
Ellen: It’s like people go to Tahiti.
Bex: Um,
Alice: that’s definitely gonna be from now on
Bex: her [00:52:00] bed. Her, her bedside manner sucks ’cause Michael is freaking out because David is still in the hospital, which is now, you know, very much on fire.
Alice: Yeah.
Bex: Um, and he. She’s trying to keep him calm while checking him out. He’s saying, no, I need to, you know, my boyfriend is there. Somebody yells for, “Hey, I need a paramedic.” She literally bolts.
Alice: Just leaves. She literally just turns around and leaves and it’s like,
Bex: like,
Alice: okay,
Bex: there’s no, like, you need to stay here, sir, or like, you’re fine. You can,
Alice: you’re fine. I’ll be right back. She literally just turns around and leaves and he’s like, okay.
Bex: And he has to run after her to finish his next line of dialogue.
Alice: We, still haven’t finished the page! Where are you going? She’s no Chimney, that’s for sure.
Ellen: But she does tell him like, “just wait from out here and let us do our job.” And I was like, he is totally a hundred percent gonna run into that hospital in a [00:53:00] moment. But he doesn’t. Amazingly, he, he does what he’s told.
Bex: He waits there and the camera spins around him in a spiral, giving us the viewer a feeling that emotionally he is in a spiral. Did we get it that he’s like spiraling?
Alice: Is he spiraling?
Bex: Because the camera spiraling. Yeah.
Ellen: Yeah. It spirals emotionally.
Alice: Yeah.
Bex: Uh, speaking of David, he’s still doing surgery. Um, they have managed to get in contact with the, and let them know,
Alice: do we, like, do we even need to mention da David’s doing surgery this entire episode. That’s Yeah,
Bex: pretty much. Um, they’ve told, they let the nurse know, oh, hey, there was you know, an explosion. The, the hospital’s on fire, you, you might wanna, um, you know, get out of there. And, um, David’s like, nah, it’s on the other side of the hospital. We’re fine.
Alice: We’re good. Yeah.
Ellen: Well they do have a guy on the table with a hole in his head, so if they all leave then [00:54:00] he’s gonna die. So like,
Alice: I mean, it, it’s only brain surgery.
Bex: I don’t think they say, I don’t think they’re saying leave the patient. I think they’re saying close up the surgery and everybody leave.
Alice: Yeah.
Bex: Yeah. Whereas I think David’s argument is,
Alice: I’m sure we can’t, they could’ve closed and gone to another hospital, but no, he has to perform the surgery here I’m in a building, burning building.
Bex: There must be some way that they could have temporarily made the surgical site sterile and kept it as sterile as,
Alice: yeah. Just packed the wound or something like, I mean, it’s only in the brain. Yeah. Um,
Bex: anyway, we’ll discuss that a little bit more ’cause I have thoughts about this, funnily enough. Um, so,
Alice: but yeah, maternity’s like way over there. So David’s not even concerned. He’s just like, eh, this’ll be done soon. Like it, it’s fine.
Bex: Um, the 118 is over at the maternity ward where they’ve set up some kind of bucket brigade up the ladder to get the babies out of the nursery.
Alice: Oh, it’s so cute. Even they’re safer about handling the babies than the fucking nurses.
Ellen: [00:55:00] Yeah, but I was looking at the ladder going, how, what? How many people are on that ladder? Like we have seen those ladders break.
Alice: I know the ladder broke with just Buck. Yeah, but Buck’s not on the ladder, so it’s fine because he’s inside. So we’re good. Yes, it’s all good.
Bex: So they’ve given Buck, they’ve given Buck the job of picking up the babies and passing them out the window to Eddie and then Eddie passes them to the next person on the ladder who then climbs down the ladder a little bit, passes the the next person, so on and so on and so forth. Until they get to Hen
Alice: imagine if they dropped one,
Bex: she’s on the ground. Who takes them to the triage center where they’re being put in the little plastic wheelie things the babies should go in.
Alice: I think those are actually humidicribs because they’ve got oxygen going through. So that’s something different. They then, like babies don’t usually need to be in humidicribs.
Bex: No, no. I swear they’re just the little plastic wheelie thingies.
Alice: No. ’cause they said that they’re running oxygen, so they’ve gotta be the, um, yeah. Humid cri. That’s normally what, like,
Ellen: but they don’t look big enough to be actual,
Bex: wouldn’t humidicribs be like completely enclosed? These ones are just the little plastic sides.[00:56:00]
Alice: They couldn’t afford real ones, okay? Just, just,
Bex: I don’t know. I, I do, I know that Hen says they’re running oxygen, but I have a feeling that she’s like putting tiny little masks on them and getting them breathing that way.
Alice: She’s, she’s literally just got a portable fan and she is like,
Bex: yeah. Blowing fresh air up their nose,
Alice: but, oh my God. Can we just talk about Buck, like holding the very fake, just ignore it. Just go with it
Bex: oh my God. They are so fake. It, it doesn’t even look like dolls. It looks like they’ve wrapped up a blanket around like a sack of flour and like, shut a beanie on
Alice: it. They spent their entire budget on the explosion. They’re done. Like, that’s the, the explosion and, um, fucking Rupert’s envelope took out the entire budget. They also had to pay a background firefighter this week. Okay? It’s, it’s a lot.
Bex: Yeah.
Alice: Um, but yeah, Buck’s like holding. He’s holding a little baby and he’s like, “it’s okay baby. Like, it’s okay. I got you. Yeah, you’re okay.” and I’m like, oh, Buck with babies is just the best.
Bex: It it definitely the right choice for to be the one actually picking up the babies.
Alice: Oh, that’s it. [00:57:00] Um, but yeah, even they’re handling the babies safer than the fucking nurse did at the start.
Bex: Yes.
Alice: I also like that like Hen is like moving them over and ravi’s on the bottom of the ladder as well.
And then like when Hen’s chatting to Bobby, Ravi just appears behind. It’s like, aren’t you supposed to be on the ladder? Like, are we done with the babies? Is this it? Did we just miss the steps Or I’m assuming they’re done with the babies at this point.
Bex: I’m assuming the Bobby would not have, um, nominated those two to head off if they were still needed.
Alice: The third last firefighter turns around with a baby and they’re both just gone. He’s just like, oh, what the fuck do I do now? Like stop, stop holding, stop passing down babies for a minute. Stop. Stop. I’ve gotta run it. Buck, stop! It’s just full of babies. The babies just keep coming.
Bex: They’re just like football
Alice: pile of babies.
Bex: Football pass off to the nurses just standing for the 10 feet catch.
Um, so yes, so [00:58:00] they get a call that, um, they need paramedics on the east corridor for evacuation assistance. Um, Bobby nominates Hen and Ravi to go and do that. Um,
Alice: well apparently done with babies, but that’s fine.
Bex: As he is heading off to go somewhere. I don’t know where he’s going.
Alice: Oh, there we go. Yeah, no. So Bobby does say all the babies have been evacu, so yeah, they’re done. It’s okay.
Bex: Yeah.
Alice: Um, yeah. So there’s a man who’s like panicking ’cause he is like, where’s my baby? And they’re like, yeah, they’re all over here. And he is like, “No, no. My baby wasn’t in the nursery.”
Bex: No, but can we talk about that like Bobby’s, like all the babies have been evacuated, starts to walk off, the guy grabs him again and Bobby’s like, bitch, what the fuck are you doing?
Alice: Yeah. Like, I’m fucking busy mate. Like, what are you doing? Um, this poor guy’s also on a gurney, so he’s clearly injured.
Bex: And it’s background firefighter pushing the gurney.
Alice: Yay!
Bex: I’m very excited whenever I see John, the background firefighter.
Alice: Yay, John the background firefighter. Um, but yeah, so he is like, “No, no. Our daughter wasn’t [00:59:00] in the nursery. He was with my son Parker. He’s eight years old.” This is a very large gap for siblings, but Sure. Yeah. So Parker, we cut to Parker, who is eight years old and you know, wasn’t in the nursery.
Um, he’s like stepping over fallen plaster. The nurse is dead. ’cause that’s what happens when you incorrectly carry babies. Um,
Bex: the baby, however is perfectly fine and somehow managed to land on top of a pile of plaster with nary an injury to her.
Alice: Clearly the plaster fell and the nurse was like, ah, and like threw the baby. And so the baby like landed safely on top of the plaster
Bex: and the baby’s apparently completely unconcerned about anything that has happened.
Alice: Yeah, baby’s totally fine and it is the biggest, it’s like a five month old baby. She’s like asking for solids.
Bex: Massive. It’s massive. Um,
Ellen: but adorable,
Bex: despite all of, despite all of that, um, Parker picks her up. Um, I do love the fact that they gave like Oliver [01:00:00] bags of flour, and yet they let the 8-year-old carry around an actual baby.
Alice: I know, right? The baby, like the kid was actually picking up a ba and I was like, oh, Jesus Christ. Yes. Um, look after episode one where they actually told Oliver to run downstairs with a baby he’s like, I, I’m not tell my, my agent can tell them I’m not carrying babies anymore. This is way too much pressure. What the fuck were they doing? I was a child. Why were they giving me babies? Um, and then they’re like, that’s fine. We’ll get the 8-year-old to carry them.
Bex: So the 8-year-old does carry, he, he carries, um, Sophia into a first hospital room that he can find, which, uh, has a telephone. And so he very responsibly puts Sophia on the floor and calls 9-1-1. And Claudette picks up,
Alice: he does such a good job. Like this is an 8-year-old and he’s just like, I have to protect my kid. Like my my sister.
Bex: Um, Claudette just starts treating this as like a kid because he says, “I can’t find my mom and dad.” and [01:01:00] she’s like, okay, we’ve got a lost child. That’s fine. Um, she starts going into detail
Ellen: when she first answers the phone. Actually, she sounds so chill. It’s like, aren’t you in the middle of a crisis here? Like, she’s like,
Alice: yeah, but she’s gotta be calm.
Ellen: What’s your emergency?
Bex: That means we know that she thrives under pressure.
She’s very good. Um, at most emergencies, she’s not very good in this one. Um, because while she’s completely chill. Talking to Parker, getting his name, uh, finding out what’s going on. As soon as he says that he was in a hospital and there was an explosion, um, she starts to freak the fuck out. Yeah, she gets, starts to get panicked a little bit as she start, as she’s telling Parker how to, um, handle being in a room that’s about to catch fire.
Ellen: She gets very invested and emotional about this.
Alice: She does get very into this baby, uh, this child.
Bex: Yeah. Important plot point, she asks Parker if [01:02:00] he can, if he knows what room he is in, can he see a room number anywhere? So he looks out the window to see a sign in the hallway and says, yes, I see it. It’s room 3 1 8.
Um, and then we, the audience get to see what Parker is looking at and it is the jankiest looking three I’ve ever seen in my life.
Alice: Maybe ’cause it’s not a three.
Bex: Well, see the weird thing is I was like willing to go along with, oh, you know, it looks weird because as we later find out it’s not a three, it’s an E, but then we actually get to see the three slash e. Correct way round and it looks even jankier. It’s so bad it doesn’t look like anything. Um, but he reports that he’s,
Ellen: when he was first looking out the door to see a, like a room number, I’m like, did he just look at the room across the hall? Because how can he see his own the room? Yeah. Right. You the room [01:03:00] number that he’s in. And I’m like, they’re not gonna find him there. But anyway,
Bex: I don’t think that would’ve mattered because they would’ve just been looking in that general location. And I’m sure that if they’d said, I don’t think Buck and Eddie would’ve gone oh 3 1 8. There’s no one in there. We’re not gonna check 3 1 7 or 3 1 6.
Alice: I mean, that looks like what happened
Ellen: They were all on fire anyway, so yeah. It didn’t matter in the end, but
Bex: if, if that they wouldn’t have just checked that one room and gone, oh, I guess it was the wrong room and then left.
Ellen: Yeah.
Bex: Um, so we get the supposed location of the child, um, and then she sends that information through to the 118 because she, as she tells Parker, she’s sending help to you. And so Bobby sends the bobsy twins off to try and find Parker and his sister.
Alice: He’s like, Hey, Buck, you like kids. Go find one.
Bex: We’re also gonna send the single father to go and find the kids.
Alice: Yeah. This is a great idea. You know, eight [01:04:00] year olds.
Bex: You know, an eight year old’s death isn’t gonna hit you that hard. Right, Eddie?
Ellen: Oh,
Alice: I mean, you’d think Bobby would be having a spiral about a fucking kid trapped in a fire, but you know,
Bex: oh my God. I didn’t even think
Ellen: didn’t think of that at the time. Yeah, no, he’s okay.
Alice: They didn’t even mention it. They were just like, yeah, this is fine. Bobby’s fine with this. Um,
Bex: oh my God.
Ellen: I think they probably forgot about that.
Bex: They probably did. Um, so back and Buck and Eddie head off.
Ellen: Yeah. Hen, Hen and Ravi are also running up the stairs, uh, and they, they pass a nurse who’s helping a patient down the stairs and Hen asks how many more are up there? And the nurse doesn’t really know, but he says “There’s a guy helping dig people out of the rubble,” and Hen’s like “One of ours?”
And he goes, “No, one of ours.” So there’s, apparently there’s a patient up there helping out that. So, [01:05:00]
Alice: but one of ours makes it sound like a,
Bex: it’s a stupid exchange.
Alice: Yeah. ’cause they say a nurse, it’s like a patient. It’s like, that’s not one of yours. Then like she should’ve just said A patient,
Ellen: It is a weird thing to say.
Bex: Why, why didn’t the nurse just say “no, a patient” rather than this would back and forth anyway. Um, the stupidity continues because Ravi gets on the floor and goes, “LAFD is anybody up here?” Just as two LAFD firefighters walk towards him with a patient between them? Yes. Obviously somebody else there.
Alice: Yeah.
Bex: Uh, but apparently they are not the only somebodies up there. There’s one more, but he won’t leave. And that’s Rupert
Alice: who, in case we’ve forgotten because we didn’t care. Um, he’s the guy who
Ellen: I cared. I liked Rupert.
Alice: Who graduated from chemo college.
Bex: Yes.
Ellen: Yeah.
Bex: Uh,
Ellen: so he trying to help.
Bex: He is,
Ellen: but he’s,
Bex: he’s digging through the rubble.
Ellen: Yeah. He’s looking specifically [01:06:00] for Callie, though,
Alice: with his bare hands. He’s in the Buck school of
Ellen: Yeah.
Bex: Digging. Yeah.
Alice: Uh, excavating.
Ellen: Hen’s trying to get him to leave, but he, he’s not having it.
Alice: Um, this just, this just solidified my thoughts that he was gonna do like this love confession, because he doesn’t even care about anyone else. He is just like, “no, I just need to find Callie.”
Bex: Yeah. Yeah. Because, um, Ravi starts to help him. They get the rubble off, um, and reveal the, the person trapped where Rupert was digging. And it is another nurse, but it’s not Callie and Rupert’s almost like, like holding a piece of rubble and then just drops it back on top of her and is like, Not Callie, don’t care.
Alice: What the fuck are you doing?
Bex: Um, unfortunately that nurse is dead, so she gets tagged. Um, and he moves off to try and find Callie. Hen is incredibly unable at this point to stop him. [01:07:00] Like to the point where she just kind of like, looks at Ravi and is like, Ravi. And he’s like, yeah, fine, I’ll go. And
Alice: I love that. I laughed so hard about that. Like, “Ravi?” Hen’s like I can’t be bothered
Ellen: He won’t do what I want him to do,
Alice: you’re young with energy, can you just go deal with this?
Bex: It’s like, I can imagine so her like turning to Karen when, you know Denny’s not doing what he’s supposed to do. It’s like, Karen, can you just handle him? Except it’s it’s the probie.
Alice: Yeah.
Bex: Um, so while Ravi is doing Hen’s job for her, um, David is being informed that the fire is breached, the fire door is entering the cancer ward.
Um, and all non-essentials now have to evacuate the hospital. And David’s like, no, I’m staying here. And all of his support staff go, well, um, [01:08:00] if you’re staying, we’re staying.
Ellen: Yep,
Alice: yep. Which is, you know, okay.
Bex: I will have thoughts later.
Ellen: Yep. Okay.
Bex: While. They’re all, you know, suffering in their sort of little Stockholm syndrome in the surgical ward. Um, Parker is following Claudette’s instructions and is using towels to block the smoke from under the door and then is wetting down the towels to help them absorb the smoke better.
And Claudette is like very like, panicking every time Parker has to put the phone down so that he can go do what she’s asking, she’s just like, um, you know, are you doing okay Parker? You okay? You still there? Parker?
Ellen: Parker? Parker? Parker?
Bex: Yeah. Um, and that panic ratchets up to like 300% when Parker puts down the phone, goes to do a task, comes back and gets a dial tone. ’cause the call’s been [01:09:00] disconnected and suddenly he’s not there anymore.
Alice: Yeah,
Ellen: yeah. But Eddie and Buck are almost there, so they’re about to go and find him anyway. But they, there’s just flames on the other side of the door that they’re at when they get up to the third floor.
Bex: Yep. Third floor is fully involved. Um, and they are reporting back to Claudette that they can’t go into the floor without a hose line, which is going to take time.
And meanwhile she’s panicking. She’s like, I told him to shut himself in the room. In that floor, you, you kind of need to go and get him. So they, Eddie sees that there are hydrants in the, the hallway. So he is like, I, I guess that’s gonna have to do. Um, they are completely useless. They do absolutely nothing for the flames.
And then to make matters worse, as they sort of start to make their way through the flames, the doors at the other end of the [01:10:00] hallway completely collapse and a massive fireball whooshes through the hallway. And for a second, Claudette thinks that she’s lost contact with, um, Eddie and Buck as well.
Alice: Yeah, Eddie and Buck are dead. That’s, that’s it. That’s the podcast. We’re, um, we’re done now. We’ll see you, we’ll see you next week for more Heated Rivalry talk because,
Bex: um, Buck eventually comes back on the radio and says,
Alice: oh, thank God he is alive.
Bex: “There is no room 3 1 8, it’s gone. The fire took it.” And Claudette looks like she’s about to have a massive meltdown.
Um, and Linda is, I don’t know whether Linda can hear what is going on or she’s just watching Claudette and she can see how Claudette is reacting. But like everyone is staring at Claudette at this point and Josh swarms in from the other side of the room to tell, um, Claudette that it’s time for her to take a break.
Alice: Yeah.
Bex: Because again, I don’t know whether he’s hearing what she’s hearing or he’s just reacting to her.
Ellen: [01:11:00] She’s like, no, I’m fine. And he’s like, no, you’re not, you’re not fine. Not go and take it.
Bex: Take your break anyway. Even if you’re fine. Take a break. Anyway,
Alice: that’s it.
Ellen: Um, meanwhile, um, in the carpark command center, um, Michael is still there. He’s still just hanging around, spiraling, and
Bex: literally the camera is still spinning around.
Alice: It’s still spinning around the poor cameraman’s dizzy at this point
Ellen: it’s very metaphorical this time, this whole technique is,
Alice: yeah, subtle.
Ellen: Yeah. Um, okay. I take back what I said about the good directing. No. No, it is good. Um,
Bex: hey, the directing is fine. The camera work is maybe a little bit juvenile, but you know, it’s, it’s,
Alice: do think the cameraman’s job, do you think the cameraman just does what he wants? It’s the director that tells… anyway.
Bex: No, the cameraman gets to choose what he is doing, right?
Alice: No,
Ellen: I think the director tells the cameraman what to do. Yes. Um,
Bex: I was, I was, I was trying to stick [01:12:00] up for James. Leave me alone.
Ellen: Okay. Um,
Alice: alright. You, and your bestie James
Ellen: Athena is there? Athena arrives.
Bex: Athena is suddenly there. Yes.
Alice: She’s also running around in circles because Michael’s still in circles
Ellen: apparently May called her.
Bex: But she gets, she gets there and Michael stops spiraling.
Ellen: Well now he has someone who usually knows what’s going on and can take care of everything. But I mean, obviously Athena’s not at work at the moment, so she doesn’t really know much. But Athena is, I mean,
Alice: She finally took a day off
Ellen: Michael latches onto her anyway,
Alice: poor Athena finally took a day off and the fucking hospital explodes and she’s like, now I have to go in anyway. Like for fuck sake.
Ellen: Well, she’s not in uniform.
Alice: I’m assuming May told her because May’s at work, she just is never shown at work.
Ellen: Well, they might have seen it on the TV or something like
Alice: Yeah, May saw it on Twitter
Or social media or something. Yeah, yeah.
Bex: May, may saw it’s somewhere and mentioned it [01:13:00] to Athena as in Hey, isn’t that the hospital David works at? Maybe. I dunno whether Athena would’ve known that information. So, yes. And uh, oh my God. Did you know that David is inside the burning building and the building is on fire?
Ellen: Yeah, apparently we did. We didn’t know that, but now we do.
Bex: Um, he’s still inside doing surgery, um,
Ellen: and he’s still not leaving.
Alice: Is is he still doing surgery?
Bex: He’s still doing surgery. The nurse comes back and says, um, “the LAFD are telling us to get the fuck out. We’ve got five minutes. They’ve got five minutes before they come in and drag us out themselves.”
David’s like, “no, it’s cool, we’re about to leave. Um, I’m almost done.” Um, and just as he says that, he is not almost done because those margins, which were perfectly clear mere seconds ago, suddenly become very muddied. Um, the patient starts hemorrhaging, his blood pressure’s dropping. Um, [01:14:00]
Alice: everything’s dropping,
Bex: everything’s dropping. He’s apparently approaching stroke territory, which I don’t,
Alice: his self esteem’s dropping, which is wild because he’s asleep.
Bex: Um,
Alice: everything’s dropping,
Bex: including the electricity because the lights go out for a second.
Alice: He’s experiencing sub drop,
Bex: which, which point David’s
Ellen: don’t start that again.
Bex: Um, that’s David’s cue to go “Right, every one of you get out.” Um, and the nurse is like, “no. What do we always say? Faith in science.” David finishes it “and in each other. Okay. We we’re all staying.”
Ellen: okay.
Bex: Stupid
Ellen: science will save them.
Alice: Yeah.
Ellen: Or Bobby in this case. Um, Ravi is still following along after where Rupert disappeared to, but he, there’s like a trail of blood that he sees on the floor. And so he calls Hen over [01:15:00] and they find Callie underneath a set of shelves. And
Alice: how is she dripping blood, like trailing blood everywhere. If she’s stuck under wire shelves?
Bex: I’m assuming Rupert is the one trailing blood and Ravi’s following Rupert’s trail of blood.
Alice: Sure. Let’s go with that, because it makes more sense.
Ellen: Yeah.
Alice: Um,
Ellen: it does,
Bex: like he’s looking for Rupert. He sees fresh blood and goes, if, okay, we’ll go in that direction and I’ll find Rupert. And he does.
Alice: How does, how does the sternum rub work? Like, we see it used a lot, obviously. It’s like, it’s, it’s an actual thing. It just, how does it work?
Bex: It’s a,
Alice: what are the
Bex: It’s a reflex. It’s like one of those, um, like pri uh, very, very inbuilt reflexes. Um,
Ellen: mm-hmm.
Bex: Let’s see what Dr. Google says. It’s pain stimulus.
Alice: Oh, right. So, ’cause it hurts.
Bex: It’s, um, it, it provides like, can we just central? Um, central? No, no central noxious [01:16:00] stimulus to patients.
Alice: Okay. I’m just always curious because it apparently is no longer
Ellen: What does that mean?.
Alice: Again, I’ve been watching The Pitt and they do it a lot in The Pitt too. Um, so like, it’s not just a made up for 9-1-1 thing, which, you know, totally didn’t think it was.
Ellen: Do they do it to, to wake people up?
Bex: Yes.
Alice: Yeah. Yeah. That’s what they like. If you see people unconscious in medical, like this, show me all medical shows. They’ll do like a, um, like with their knuckles, they’ll rub on the sternum and then they just like wake up and I’m like, how does this work? Because sometimes they use the smelling salts and sometimes they like.
Bex: Like if you just rub your knuckles on your, on your sternum, it hurts.
Alice: It hurts. Yeah. Yeah.
Bex: And so you can imagine somebody else doing it to you very, very deeply. Um, it’s apparently enough pain and you’re not having to worry about like if squeezing hands doesn’t work because something’s blocking the nerves between the fingers and the brain or the feet and the brain.
But if they’re still con, if they’re still alive and they’re still, you know, brain activity [01:17:00] rubbing the sternum will go to the brain and wake them up. Um,
Ellen: mm-hmm.
Bex: So that’s why they do it. It’s, it’s a way to very quickly wake somebody up. Um, just feel
Alice: like going to, like, whenever people sleep near me now, I’ll just do a sternum rub and they’ll be like, what the fuck?
Bex: Now, my sternum hurts.
Alice: I was just making sure you were okay. I know mine too. We’re all gonna be bruised tomorrow now.
Bex: We be sitting here doing sternum rubs in ourselves,
Alice: war wounds of podcasting about
Ellen: We’ll wake up tomorrow and be like, ow!
Bex: Sternum rub, which works. Callie is awake. She can wiggle her fingers, she can wiggle her toes. She’s all good. Um,
Alice: she does need a tourniquet on the leg apparently, even though. Yeah, she is fine otherwise
Bex: but they get, they get her on a gurney, um, and just as they’re about, just as sort of Ravi and Hen pick her up to plunk her onto the gurney, there’s a, an ominous creaking sound, which apparently only Rupert can hear. [01:18:00] And
Ellen: yeah, the others don’t seem too bothered by it.
Alice: He was, he was cured from cancer and developed super hearing. Um,
Bex: so he, he tells, he tells Ravi and Hen to, um, to get her out of here and when they, you know, don’t pay any attention to him because he’s just, you know, another victim in this situation who is he to be giving them orders.
Um, he literally shoves Ravi and yells, get out and just where Ravi was standing, the ceiling comes down,
Ellen: on top of Rupert,
Bex: on top of Rupert.
Ellen: Like, oh, he survived cancer only to be crushed in the hospital.
Bex: In the cancer ward.
Alice: In the cancer ward.
Ellen: Yeah. Very sad.
Bex: So he survived cancer and then the cancer ward killed him.
Alice: So what have we learned, guys? Um, if you get cured from cancer, don’t go back into the cancer ward.
Bex: Leave as fast as possible. Do not leave. Go.
Alice: Just get out.
Bex: Weirdly [01:19:00] to, um, to hand over the suspected love confession.
Alice: Yeah.
Bex: To the nurse that’s like old enough to be your granddaughter.
Alice: Oh my god.
Literally.
Bex: Um, so yeah, Ravi is sort of looking in horror at, you know, this man who had just told them that he’d survived cancer, who has now been felt by the center that cured him of said cancer. Um. Oh, Eddie and Buck are also not doing well because they’ve assumed that they have failed to find the 8-year-old and his baby sister. And Eddie is especially taking it hard,
Ellen: aw, and Buck looks at him and goes, are you okay? Eddie’s not okay.
Bex: Um,
Ellen: he’s like,
Bex: Eddie is not okay, but it is okay because, um, we then cut to a 9-1-1 call and it’s 8-year-old Parker going, where the fuck are my firefighters?
Alice: Yeah. Like,
Bex: I’m, I’m sorry?
Alice: Parker’s like I was promised top firefighters and there are no hot firefighters here.
Bex: Um, and [01:20:00] Linda’s like,
Ellen: he’s eight years old. Come on.
Bex: Uh, Linda figures out that this is
Alice: meant temperature hot. They’re on fire. Oh my god. Ellen,
Bex: Linda figures out that this is Parker who Claudette was dealing with. I don’t know how she figured that out unless she could literally hear what Claudette was hearing, although maybe she kept hearing Claudette go like, Parker, are you okay Honey Parker, are you there?
Honey? Parker, Parker. Parker, um, Parker, Parker,
Alice: Parker, Parker, Parker.
Bex: And she’s like, oh shit. Parker stay on the phone. She gets on the ho to Eddie. She’s like, um, Eddie, did you end up getting into room 3, 1 8 and like, honey, if he got into room 3, 1 8, do you think the kid would be calling you?
Alice: Yeah.
Bex: Um, Eddie’s like, thanks for reminding me. No. 3 1 8 was on fire. The kids are dead.
Alice: Thanks for reminding me the kids are dead. Linda.
Bex: Linda’s like, well, actually,
Ellen: Why don’t you give me a paper cut and pour some lemon juice on it.[01:21:00]
Bex: Um, Linda’s Linda says, well, actually, the kid just called me back. Um, and then
Alice: he’s like, oh my God, really? And Linda’s like, no, I’m kidding. Sucker!
Bex: Buck’s Buck jumps on the call, on the radio call and goes, wait, the kid’s alive? Um, and Linda’s like, yeah, he, he’s still saying he’s in room 3 1 8. Is it possible you were at the wrong room? Now, this is really, really bad.
Ellen: It, it’s a jump being
Bex: writing because what what happened was they had, when Eddie was like being really upset about the fact that they lost their kids, he and Buck were at the truck putting away all of their fire gear. So they’d put, they’d taken off their helmets, they had taken off their tanks, they were putting them all away.
Suddenly, when Linda calls back and says, actually, the kids are still alive somehow Eddie is back in full gear. And I know, I know, I know that they needed him back in full gear because [01:22:00] they needed him to be in his helmet so that he could look at his reflection in the mirror and he could see that what says 118 on the front of his helmet looks like 8 1 1 in the mirror.
So he’s thinking that the kid caught a reflection and that’s why he got the room number wrong. But it’s just Why did you have him out of his gear like 30 seconds earlier? Buck is still out of his gear and suddenly he’s back in his gear
Alice: Eddie’s just really fast at getting dressed. Okay,
Bex: but why did he get dressed again?
Alice: Because he heard the children were alive and was just like, oh, I’m indecent.
Bex: No, no, but like he’s back in the gear before Linda calls him.
Alice: Oh, because maybe he got undressed and Bobby looked over and was like, what the fuck are you doing? There’s still a fire.
Ellen: Maybe they had get the fuck back in their head had clean clothes on because they got so much smoke in their clothes last like
Alice: Yeah, true. Maybe they just got changed. It’s fine.
Ellen: I know. Uh, who the hell knows that is, that is shitty editing in that case.
Bex: Yeah. So, but the, but the whole point is that Linda says, do you think you [01:23:00] got the wrong room? Eddie’s staring at himself in the mirror going, no, I think he got the wrong room. And we see that 118 looks like 8 1 1.
Alice: Because Eddie, much like a parakeet, is regularly staring at his own reflection in the mirror.
Bex: Um, and he asks Linda, is it possible that there is an eight one E in the hospital? And she looks up the hospital floor plan, which of course she has access to. ’cause apparently dispatch can find anything at, in the,
Alice: well they would’ve had it, they would’ve had it open because like they’re fighting the fire.
Bex: All right. I will accept that they had it because for evacuation purposes,
Alice: I’m pretty sure Claudette even had it open earlier
Bex: and they discovered that there is a room eight one E it is on the fifth floor and he and Buck race off to fight to the, get to the fifth floor. Counting off the room numbers and they finally get to room 81 E, which Buck very helpfully tells the [01:24:00] audience who might not have caught up that, that’s 3 1 8 backwards. And again, it’s the jankiest looking E. They find the kids. Parker’s passed out from smoke inhalation. Sophia is apparently fine. I would’ve thought that she one is fine even though though she’s got small,
Alice: I guess ’cause she’s closer to the grand. It’s fine.
Bex: It’s fine, it’s fine, it’s fine. They, the kids, um, they get them out. They’re fine. They let Linda know that the kids are fine. She goes to then tell Claudette that the kids are fine. Um, and Claudette has like a massive breakdown. Yeah, I do like that.
At one point someone else tries to come in the break room and Linda’s like, uh, not now. Just like literally holds her hand up. Like, no, go find your snacks somewhere else. Go raid Josh’s desk. He’s got snacks. Yeah.
Ellen: Yeah.
Bex: But yes, Claudette is, uh, both a little bit in disbelief that Linda was the one that saved the kids and figured out that the kids were in the wrong room. [01:25:00] Um, and then both. And very relieved that the kids, regardless of who saved them, are saved.
Alice: Yeah. Claudette’s like, “You figured that out?” And Linda’s like, “Actually Eddie, it’s fine.”
Ellen: It’s like first, fuck you. Secondly, no it was Eddie. Linda would not say that though. She’s a sweetheart.
Bex: Yes, Linda is the best of us. We then cut back down to the command center where Michael and Athena have been looking around trying to find David. Uh, they don’t find David, but they do find Bobby. And for some reason the, uh, the captain of the 118 who was not incident commander, but was pretty much meant to be on the ground, just, you know, directing the troops, has somehow acquired some breathing apparatus because when he sees his wife and his wife’s ex-husband, um, he,
Ellen: excuse me, his bestie, [01:26:00]
Bex: his true, his bestie, his game partner, um, he sort of excuses himself from the conversation that he is having, picks up this massive tank and like over his shoulder and heads over to, um, Athena and Michael.
And I’m like, Bobby, why do you have, oh, that’s why you have breathing apparatus. Okay.
Ellen: Yeah. So Bobby is gonna be on the hunt for David, um, for his, you know, his buddy.
Bex: Yes.
Ellen: Um, and meanwhile the patient is still bleeding and so they can’t close up the wound and get out of there. Um, David is calling for some backup blood because he’s already lost a lot of blood and we’re like, where is the blood coming from?
Alice: We getting blood. Yeah.
Ellen: I mean, hopefully we already have
Alice: some
David. The blood is boiling
Ellen: in the OR somewhere.
Alice: Like everything’s on fire. The blood is literally boiling.
Ellen: Yeah,
Alice: it’s turning into black pudding here.
Bex: Nobody’s gonna deliver blood [01:27:00] to an OR that’s surrounded by fire.
Alice: It’s the poor guy who had to deliver the kidney on Valentine’s Day with Athena. He’s just like carrying his little esky, just like, um, I have some blood that was ordered?
Bex: It’s Manny, the Manny in the hot in the helicopter that was supposed to be delivering the heart and they ended up having to like Captain America him.
Anyway, so, you know, dude’s bleeding out. Um, they’re not gonna get in any more blood anytime soon. And then the generator fails and they’re on backup.
Ellen: It’s just all going wrong.
Bex: So David tells ’em that they’ve got 20 minutes.
Alice: Yeah. Like maybe hurry the fuck up.
Ellen: All right, so we have to go back to the Callie storyline for a moment.
Um, they bring, they bring Callie out of the hospital into the sort of triage area and um, and they also brought rut out. On another gurney, but [01:28:00] he’s already died, so sadly no good. But Ravi’s really upset about this because he was supposed to save Rupert, not the other way around.
Alice: Yeah.
Ellen: And sort of reassures him. He did everything he could. It’s like, well, he kind of didn’t, he just got shoved outta the way. There wasn’t really much he could do. But anyway,
Alice: Hen’s like “You told him to go several times.” Me, you in fact yelled, go home at him and told him he was 45 years old several times. Like you’ve done all you can,
Ellen: few more than 25 years. But anyway, yes.
Bex: Uh, meanwhile Michael, and oh my God, I just realized this. Michael is standing there looking at the burning building going, “I don’t see how you do this.” And I just realized, Michael, you were married to Athena who was a cop.
Alice: Yeah. Literally
Bex: There’s been several times that you have been in situations where Athena has been in peril and you’ve had to be sitting there [01:29:00] waiting for her to come back.
Alice: Literally.
Bex: Like, what, what do you mean that now you are completely un inconsolable about the fact that your, like future fiance is in peril.
Alice: He’s like a guns fire. They’re totally different things. Um, but also Bobby’s going in there with protective gear. He’s not being an idiot.
Bex: No, I’m thinking like David in the first
Ellen: is.
He doesn’t know if David is okay. So he’s, you know, that’s part of his problem.
Bex: Um, the storyline, when was it? The, the earthquake where the kids were freaking out and trying to watch the news because they were trying to find sign of Athena because they didn’t know where Athena was. She was supposed to be at work.
She was on shift somewhere in the earthquake zone. They didn’t know where she was. So that’s like something that Michael’s had to deal with before.
Alice: Yeah. Several times.
Bex: So why is it different now with David?
Alice: Because David’s just an ickle, just an ickle little brain surgeon.
Ellen: He’s in love with David. [01:30:00]
Alice: Wow. Poor Athena.
Bex: Ouch.
Alice: I mean, to be fair. Yeah. Because he has sex and enjoys it with David.
Bex: Oh. Um, so anyway, yes. So Athena says to have faith in Bobby. Um, Bobby has made his way up to the OR and he is got himself onto that little intercom. Um, all he says is “David.” And David’s like, “Not now mom. Five more minutes.”
Ellen: You basically,
Alice: I’m almost finished this match. I can’t pause. It’s online.
Ellen: I can’t pause. ’cause guy’s got his brain exposed and he’s going to die.
Bex: Well, he literally says, “I can’t let this guy, I can’t let that happen. I promised his wife,” and this is why we never make promises if we are medical staff or first responders.
Alice: Exactly.
Bex: Um, but then, and this is the most fuck-ass-ery thing, Bobby says, well, I [01:31:00] promised
Ellen: I couldn’t believe the audacity.
Bex: Bobby says, “I promised your husband.” And David’s like, “He’s not my husband yet.” And Bobby said, “Well, he’s got a ring or maybe a watch. We never did find out which one he picked. Um, in his pocket right now waiting to propose to you.”
Ellen: It’s like, way to steal his thunder, Bobby!
Bex: Robert Nash
Ellen: like, what the hell,
Bex: Robert Wade Nash. What the actual fuck?
Alice: Bobby just really likes proposing. Is this the third proposal he is done like that we know of?
Bex: Um,
Ellen: yeah. I guess
Bex: why
Ellen: He had two wives before. Yeah.
Bex: Michael and David. Yep.
Alice: God
Bex: Mbettert a watch out because Bobby’s going to be proposing to her boyfriend.
Alice: This is why May doesn’t bring boys home anymore.
Bex: Bobby just keeps proposing to them on her behalf.
Ellen: It’s like it’s got vibes of like, my friend wants to know if you’ll go out with him.
Alice: Yes, exactly. [01:32:00]
Bex: I’m gonna slide this note under the surgery door. It’s got two boxes, yes or no, mark in blood on one of them and I’ll let Michael know,
Ellen: oh
Bex: no, I’m assuming he does have a pen in there. Oh boy. We’re getting punchy. Come on, we can do this.
Ellen: Oh yeah, we got, we got this. This is not like, I was gonna say, it’s not much longer to go, but there is quite a long way to go. So we’ve got,
Bex: well there is at least 12 minutes because that’s how long David needs to finish the surgery.
Ellen: Yeah. And if he’s like, the next part takes 12 minutes. But we actually timed, looked at this timestamps and it’s only like five or six minutes. It’s not actually 12 minutes.
Bex: Ellen. Ellen was complaining. This part felt like it took forever and I, having been watching The Pitt went well, maybe they actually did make an attempt to have the next part be 12 minutes so that, you know, we as the audience were right there. But no, it was not 12 minutes. It just felt like it, this,
Alice: this was pre Pitt days. Um, there was [01:33:00] no such thing as, okay.
Bex: Excuse you. 24.
Alice: Oh, there was, oh yeah. There are so many shows that did it. That’s why I was joking. Like I didn’t The Simpsons even. Um, even spoof 24?
Bex: Oh probably. The Simpsons spoof everything. I’m waiting for the Simpsons to do Heated Rivalry
Alice: if they haven’t already.
Ellen: Oh, I hope so.
Bex: Um, so yes, um, Bobby gives, says that he will do his best to give David the time he needs and he calls for all available units to respond to, OR five for defend in place. And everybody take a shot. And so every man and their dog suddenly raced toward OR five to, um, to basically, um, oh, there’s a word and I cannot find it.
Ellen: Defend in place? Is that the word?
Bex: No, it’s, it’s basically David is trying to be a hero. [01:34:00] He is putting everybody’s lives at risk and they’re just going to, um, it’s the word where you, where somebody wants to do something and even though you know it’s a really bad idea, you just go along with it. There is an actual word for that.
Ellen: Okay.
Bex: And I cannot find it. Um, anyway, so that’s what they do. So everybody,
Alice: is it German?
Bex: No, it’s not German. It’s apparently not that important. I will remember it in like five hours and I’ll wake up in a cold sweat going like it was this word. Um,
so we, we see everybody running off. We hear multiple team captains chime in and say that they’re coming down. Meanwhile, down in the command center, um, the wife of the dude who’s having brain surgery is wandering around looking lost. Um, she finds Michael and Athena who ask whether they can pray with her.
Ellen: Yeah.
Bex: And we move into montage number two.
Alice: Yeah. I honestly stopped [01:35:00] watching at this montage because.
Ellen: Well, it went on for quite a long time. Like they’re all standing around.
Alice: It just kept going and I don’t care.
Ellen: Everyone outside is either praying or like staring up at the hospital in slow motion.
Bex: Gazing, gazing up
Alice: literally the entire, like everyone outside like there’s like people in wheelchairs, people on gurneys. Like everyone’s just like in a prayer circle and I’m like, I did you really run out of stuff to do in this episode? It’s a pretty action packed episode and they still like, we could have seen Buck with babies more.
Ellen: Well we see, we do see a whole heap of like the surgery going on and the firefighters like trying to stop the fire from coming into the room.
Bex: Yeah, like Bobby is piling any, any piece of furniture that’s not nailed down, he is piling in front of the door to just buy himself a little bit more time. Hen is wetting down sheets to lay in front of the door.
Alice: Apparently fire can’t get through furniture.
Bex: Well, no, I think it’s more that the fire, it’s to brace the door [01:36:00] in front of the door and it’ll give it so it’ll slow it down a little bit more. It’s gotta get through all of the furniture before it can get to the OR. Um, but
Alice: it just reminds me of Community. Like all I could think of was Community. ’cause I just re-watched that where they’re like, fire can’t go through walls. It’s not a ghost. And then like two episodes later they’re like, ghosts can’t go through walls. They’re not fi it’s not fire.
Bex: Indulge, fuck. There we go.
Alice: Sure. Yep. In Cool. What?
Bex: Indulge.
Ellen: They’re indulging him?.
Bex: Indulging David in. Right? There we go. Um, yeah, because like at this point at I think David, like they’re indulging him going, yes, we’ll give you some more time till you even finish the surgery. But we’ve now got the 1 18 4 other units.
Ellen: Yeah. There’s a lot of people in that.
Bex: A lot of people at are at OR five trying to defend it. You’ve got all of the surgical team inside, all putting, like, putting themselves at risk so that David [01:37:00] could finish the surgery. At what point do you go, look, it’s a risk to move this guy out of the surgical ward. Out of the surgical room. Outside, he may die.
Ellen: Or like all these people will die trying to stop the
Bex: versus everybody else possibly dying yeah. So that you can save this one guy like this, the, like the, the Star Trek fan in me is going like the needs of the many, when do we start weighing up the needs and the many worse versus the needs of the few or the one here?
Ellen: Mm-hmm.
Bex: Like at what point should David have gone? Like, I’m risking far too many people, I just need to like this one guy, I’m really sorry if he does not survive, but it’s one guy versus everybody. I mean, it doesn’t get there because, um, happy ending.
Alice: Yeah, the stakes for this episode are a lot lower once you’ve watched it
Ellen: well, it was good the first time through was great. I mean, I,
Alice: the first Yeah. Did, I did really enjoy it the first time. Like, I had a lot of notes about this [01:38:00] episode the first time I,
Ellen: I knew none of the firefighters were gonna die.
Alice: I just, some of them, um, some of the episodes, like at, like the one with Albert in the car crash, that was tense. Even the second time, like, I knew what was gonna happen, and I was still tense.
Bex: That one lives up to rewatch. This one does not live up to rewatch.
Alice: Mind you, where’s Albert gone? Who the fuck knows? Um, so, you know, he may as well,
Ellen: He’s working at a different firehouse.
Bex: He’s still at the 1 33. They just weren’t called to this one.
Alice: Yeah,
Ellen: yeah.
Alice: Um, but you know, like, yeah, the Albert one was tense. This one I’m like, eh, I don’t care about David. I don’t care about Michael.
Bex: But the other thing that I’ve, that really kind of sucks about this sequence is that there’s no, like, I didn’t feel like there was a massive buildup
Alice: time limit?
Bex: And then the, no, like tension to it.
Alice: Yeah.
Bex: So like, they’re, they’re building, they’re fighting the fire. We get a, we get Ravi sort of looking at the flames now, devouring all of the furniture that Bobby’s put. They’re kind of going, holy shit. Um, and [01:39:00] then we cut to them all just walking out of the hospital.
Alice: Yeah. There’s no like, yeah.
Bex: Where was the, holy shit, the fire is actually. Like, I didn’t feel the tension.
Alice: No. And I think because we’ve like seen David this whole time, we know that he, and he is so chill. Like he’s so calm. He’s just like, oh, I’ll just suture him back up. This is fine. Like, there’s no, like, holy shit. Like we have to do this now. It’s literally just like, yeah, we’ll get there. That’s fine. The maternity ward’s so far away, like we’ll be right.
Ellen: He’s very calm and collected, isn’t he?
Alice: Whereas like,
Ellen: no urgency.
Alice: The music was so good in the, um, Albert car crash episode and like the cutting back and forth and like, oh, such a great effort. Like, yeah. Even the second time I watched it, I was like leaning forward and like tears.
But yes, I will say the first time I watched this episode, I do have a lot of notes, like, um, where they think that Parker’s like the room, whatever it is. 3 1 8, right?
Bex: Look, that one, I was like, that part.
Alice: Surely not. No [01:40:00] fucking way. Um, and then the second, now that I know what happened, I’m like, uh, it’s the mirror.
Bex: But I will say that that part still had the tension and the misdirect and there’s kind of no tension or misdirect in this section.
Alice: Yeah. This section, I don’t care. The kids I care about. I’m not because the, the first time I watched it, when I saw the 3 1 8, I just thought it was across the, the, um, corridor.
Bex: Yeah.
Alice: I didn’t think about the mirror. Yeah. Um, but yeah, no, the first time absolutely there were like great first time just not so much on rewatch.
Ellen: If I watched it again, I probably wouldn’t be quite so nervous. Yeah. But anyway, they do walk out the door and, but it’s just a bunch of firefighters. And Michael and David, like none of the nurses come out. Like none of
Bex: they, they come out like 10 minutes.
Ellen: They’re busy dealing with the guy. Yeah, they’re dealing with the patients still.
Bex: We, which makes me feel like David like got the, um, the brain bleed under control and [01:41:00] just went, okay, cool, I’m done here. And then walks out and leaves like the nurses to close up for him.
Alice: No, I’ve gotta go hang out with my fiance’s boyfriend,
Ellen: Bobby grabbed him and dragged him out,
Alice: bye.
Bex: Yeah. Yeah. And, and what a, and what a welcome he gets, so yeah, he leads David out, Michael races through the tents to, um, to grab Michael and hugs him.
Alice: Yep.
Bex: And that’s it.
Alice: Because, because whenever I like think that my long-term partner who I live with has died and then I see that they, they’re not dead, I always just give them a friendly hug. Yes. Um,
Ellen: was this like some kind of,
Alice: you know, pat on the back no homo
Ellen: stipulation by one or both of the actors that they weren’t gonna kiss? Like I don’t think they ever kiss.
Bex: I was start, I was wondering whether it was a network thing, like the network was not going to show two men kissing.
Ellen: Um, because I don’t, I don’t thiink we ever see like Hen and Karen kissing either, right?
Bex: [01:42:00] No. We, we see, we see them kiss.
Alice: We got a, a sex scene with Hen and Karen. In like season one. It’s not ex like, it’s not super.
Ellen: Oh yeah.
Alice: It’s not as explicit as Buck’s, but it’s still
Bex: So I’m thinking it was possibly, I’m gonna lay it at Rockmond’s feet and go that he did not want to. But
Alice: yeah, we’ll blame him for everything.
Ellen: Yeah. I wondered because like we, these two are just not affectionate at all.
Alice: They basically just like fist bump and they’re just like, yeah, cool. Glad you’re fine. Good job.
Bex: I did not care enough to go back and check all of the episodes that have got David in them to see if we’ve ever actually seen these two kiss on the lips. I don’t if anybody,
Alice: yeah.
Bex: Pigeon, if you’ve watched these episodes more recently than us, um, and you can recall seeing these two kiss, let us know. ’cause um, I have a feeling that they have not, and I’m gonna say it’s ’cause the actors did not wanna do it.
Alice: I feel like they did once just because I remember going, like, I remember thinking about like after I knew about [01:43:00] Michael’s actor, I remember being like, oh, he did. But I don’t know now if I imagined it.
Bex: Again, happy to be proven wrong. If anyone wants to drop us a comment in any place that they can possibly reach us and let us know. I don’t care.
Alice: This is just fucking weird. Yeah,
Bex: yeah. We get like the longest No, no homo hug from the two homos. Um,
Alice: yeah. So and then
Bex: the proposal.
Alice: Yeah. David just says “Yes” and Michael’s like, “Yes?” And David goes, “Yes.” And then they hug again.
Bex: Yeah.
Ellen: It’s so weird!
Alice: It like, yeah. Cool. So very romantic. It’s so weird. It’s such a weird. Like, it’s so weird.
Ellen: He doesn’t even give him the chance to up, like, he doesn’t even say, can you believe what this, what your bestie said in here? He reckons you’re gonna propose to me.
Alice: Yeah. There’s not even any, it’s just like they know what they’re talking about. Michael, who was literally having a panic attack two minutes ago, suddenly knows what David’s saying when he just says yes. Um, and then they hug. [01:44:00]
Ellen: He’s like, how did you know?
Alice: I’ve been more passionate with friends. I’ve been more passionate. Like I just got back from a house sitting thing and I didn’t see Autumn for one single day and I was more passionate with her when I got home than Michael and David are right now. And that’s not to say that I do anything inappropriate with my dog. Please don’t take me wrong.
I just, that’s how unpass, like, that’s how bro these guys took, these two guys are,
Ellen: look, it looked like a lovely hug.
Alice: They like pat each other on the back and I just like,
Ellen: it was, it was a nice hug, but it wasn’t like a, uh, yes, let’s get married kind of an embrace.
Alice: No, there was no passion. It was just like,
Ellen: no,
Alice: like I’m pretty sure Michael’s hugged Bobby with more passion.
Ellen: Oh dear.
Alice: It’s, it’s fucking
Bex: moving on because we’ve still gotta finish this damn at episode.
Alice: You know what, you know what is passionate and what is very homo? Heated Rivalry.
Ellen: [01:45:00] Heated Rivalry? I knew you were gonna say that
Bex: I, I guarantee you that if Ilya and Shane would’ve ever proposed to each other that they would not hug it out afterwards.
Alice: Shane goes to hug Ilya and Ilya’s like, what the fuck are you doing?
Bex: Gimme kiss,
Alice: gimme kiss. Yes.
Bex: I’m not gonna try and deal with the Russian accent though. It should just be bad and insulting to everybody. Um, so those two are hugging it out. Um, on the other side of the command center, um, Hen and Ravi go to look for Cali, um, because at some point Ravi, um, pickpocketed Rupert and found the envelope,
Alice: which, yeah, this is weird too.
Like, was he just, when he pushed Ravi away, grabbed the envelope at the same time, so he’d die with it in his hand.
Bex: I, or like, like they dug him out of the body and then he decided to like loot him. Like he’s on Fortnite or something? I dunno. Um, anyway, he [01:46:00] finds the envelope.
Ellen: Maybe they were trying to find some ID or something, like a wallet or, I dunno, who knows?
Bex: I dunno. Anyway, he ends up at the envelope and decides that he wants to give it to Callie. Um, Callie says that she can’t read it. And would Ravi please read it to her?
Ellen: Yeah. So because of course, because we need to hear it too.
Bex: Yes.
Ellen: Although we get it in Rupert’s own voice.
Bex: We do and we get it at the montage with, um, everybody else wrapping up the, the NPC characters storylines.
Ellen: Yeah. And everyone is okay except for Rupert. And even the guy who was having the brain surgery gets finally wheeled out and reunited with his wife and he’s awake. Like he just had his brain open to the elements a minute ago.
Alice: He’s fine now. Yeah.
Ellen: And he’s already,
Bex: like, he was like, he was on anesthesia. How, how bad, how low of a anesthesia was he on that he was [01:47:00] awake that quickly.
Alice: Yeah.
Ellen: Yeah. That seems like, I don’t know.
Alice: Oh, did we actually go through what was in the letter?
Bex: No, but it’s basically, oh, I don’t care. Basically, it’s like, um, he’s thankful her.
Ellen: I’ve stopped caring.
Bex: Uh, Rupert was thankful for, to Callie for all of the faith that she had in him. And she, he hopes that he will see her again on the other side. Thank you. The end.
Alice: Yeah. It’s literally just take care. Thank you. Like, why were you so nervous? Just say thank you so fucking weird. Like, it’s, it’s, it’s the weirdest misdirect because I’m sure they made it seem like it was gonna be some romantic thing, but it, but it just made me, yeah. It just made me think that Rupert was really fucking creepy instead of like a thankful patient.
I was like, why is this guy sacrificing himself to find this bitch that’s like real young? Like, I would’ve liked it more if like Rupert could stay the same. No issues with Rupert staying the same, but like make it an older nurse. Because then it could have been like, oh, it’s gonna be a really cute love story. And [01:48:00] then it’s not. It’s just him being like, really grateful still.
Bex: I would also have bought, you reminded me of a daughter that I lost years ago.
Alice: Yeah’s something, stuff like that.
I thought that it
Ellen: was gonna be like that. Yeah. Yeah. But it’s not,
Alice: it was, it was a weird, the whole Rupert story is so weird.
Bex: We do,
Alice: I don’t like it.
Bex: Do, coming out of the Rupert storyline, we do get this nice little character moment for Ravi.
Alice: I love Ravi!
Bex: Where we learn that, uh, when Ravi was a child, he had, uh, I’m just is gonna assume leukemia because he says that he spent his entire childhood in hospitals doing chemo instead of like soccer tournaments. So that’s a, that’s a nice little life lore drop for Ravi.
Ellen: Yeah. Yeah.
Bex: So he’s, he’s saying that he, under, from that experience, he understands why, um, Rupert did what he did, sacrificed himself, um, for, for Ravi and for Callie.
Alice: Oh, totally. Like, yeah, they do [01:49:00] become your family, which is fine, but why are you being so creepy with a note? Like, I don’t know. It was just weird.
Bex: Yes.
Alice: Yeah. I like Ravi.
Bex: And so, and Hen says that, well, maybe that’s why Ravi does it too. Like he’s paying it forward. All of the people took care of him. He’s now taking care of others. And it looks like Ravi likes that idea.
Alice: Little baby Ravi.
Bex: I don’t care. Claudette’s fine. Linda’s fine. Moving on.
Ellen: This was kind of cute except that, um, I thought Claudette was kind of just brushing it off. Like, eh, no crying at work. Sorry you had to see that and then just like, I didn’t see nothing.
Alice: Yeah. Claudette’s like my number one rule. No crying at work. Like I’m, you should probably have different, you’re a dispatcher, like that… okay, sure. Save people. No, just don’t cry. But Linda’s like, dunno what you’re talking about. Didn’t see anything.
Ellen: And they did like a really awkward fist bump.
Bex: It’s the weirdest fist bump.
Alice: It’s, yeah, like it is weird. It’s like they just got, it’s like they just got proposed to,
Bex: it’s like somebody wrote in [01:50:00] “and they fist bump” and these two women have never seen a fist bump in their life.
And they’re like, do we just like press our knuckles together? Like that? Like where’s the like the boom and the, the, yeah. Where’s the kaboom? That’s supposed to be an earth shattering kaboom.
Alice: Too soon. Too soon.
Ellen: Maybe they made a new, maybe they made a new friend.
Alice: What? With the, the hospital exploding? Too soon Bex,
Bex: I’m sorry. I’m just like three raccoons in a trench coat that you would like pull a cord and pop culture references just pour outta my mouth. I.
Alice: Oh, same. It’s just, it’s just Heated Rivalry now with the occasional Supernatural and for some reason, Grey’s Anatomy, which we have mentioned in a lot of podcasts, and I feel like we need to do like a Grey’s Anatomy episode at this point.
Bex: No, I,
Ellen: oh my God. No, no. Don’t make me watch that. Please,
Bex: please. I’m No.
Ellen: Okay. We’re nearly there. Come, we’re nearly there. Um,
Bex: okay, doc there, Doctor, not so Dreamy. [01:51:00] And, um, his new fiance are having family dinner to celebrate the fact that Bobby proposed to David
Alice: Bobby proposed. Um, and yeah, he, he got a watch instead of a ring, so that’s,
Bex: it’s a fucking ugly watch.
Alice: Yeah. I, and again, you can’t wear watches in surgery, so why the fuck, they’re like, I took,
Bex: but he’s going to, Haiti, would you wanna take back, um, sure that that watch is expensive or you wanna take it to Haiti?
Ellen: Probably not.
Bex: But that is not the only reason.
Alice: It’s not even a smart watch. What’s he gonna do with it?
Bex: Um, that is not the only reason that they’re celebrating. Um, yes.
Uh, he, Bobby proposed, David said yes. Um, but he is also announcing that when David goes to Haiti, he is going to go with him.
Alice: Yep. Because he apparently he can’t save lives, but he can help rebuild one and like you’re an architect, you don’t do construction.
Bex: But he can [01:52:00] build the plans.
Ellen: Yeah. He can do, well, he can do some building. Like he’s, he’s got two hands.
Bex: Yeah,
Alice: he can,
Ellen: he doesnt have to do his actual profession.
Bex: He can learn how to hammer stuff. It’ll be fine.
Ellen: Look, if Misha Collins can build a, a, an orphanage or whatever it was, a school in Haiti, then I’m sure that, or wherever that was that they built. Was that in Haiti?
Alice: Yeah, but Misha’s quite handy. Like he, Michael does not seem to be handy at all.
Bex: Hey,
Ellen: he built a fireplace.
Bex: He built Athena a fireplace.
Ellen: Yes.
Bex: Twice. Actually,
Alice: no. He knocked over a fireplace and then
Bex: No, no.
Ellen: That was Bobby.
Bex: No, he and no, no. Didn’t they build that house?
Alice: They, he did the plans for the house , I don’t think he built it.
Ellen: Yeah. I think, think he designed the house. I don’t think he actually built it. Um, I
Alice: Architects aren’t builders,
Bex: but then he, but but then, okay. I, I,
Ellen: it doesn’t matter. They need all the help they can get.
Bex: Some kind. Yes, they do have, they do need all the help they can get. I would think that Michael has some kind of handyman [01:53:00] skills. Um,
Alice: Bex has a lot of faith. Faith in Michael. I have zero faith in Michael.
Bex: I just need Michael gone. It’s pretty much, I just need him gone.
Alice: Go home. Go home 45 years old.
Bex: Um,
Alice: it’s the gay on gay crimes again.
Bex: This announcement, um, triggers yet another montage because Athena is upset at the idea of Michael leaving because she’s going to miss him.
Alice: Yeah.
Bex: And
Alice: Oh no. So sad.
Bex: And that they will always be, no matter where Michael is, there’ll always be a family, which then triggers montage of all of the times that the Grant, Nashes, Hales were a family. And
Alice: this was so funny. I was laughing so hard because Michael’s not in that mi, like Michael didn’t have that many scenes that were like impactful. So I dunno why they did a montage about it, [01:54:00] because most of them are Bobby.
Ellen: Yeah. And I, I also didn’t realize that this was his last episode and I was like, why are they doing a montage? Like, this is so weird. It’s showing all the family moments.
Alice: I was the same. I was like, oh, is this him leaving leaving? Yeah. But like,
Ellen: it’s, yeah, I’m like
Alice: so weird because
Ellen: this is it?
Alice: Like, it’s literally like Michael and Bobby like gazing at each other at the Christmas photo. Michael talking about needing his partner, which is Bobby. Um, Michael inviting Bobby into the prom photo. Um,
Ellen: yeah,
Alice: Michael, like, just like, okay, like shouldn’t there be more Michael and Athena moments? But there aren’t enough Michael and Athena moments. So it’s literally just Michael and Bobby.
Bex: Or it’s not enough Michael and Athena moments where they’re being sweet with each other. It’s because they’ve always been fighting.
Alice: Like I totally get when a long, like a long, when a long running character is leaving. Like, yes, it’s sad, but Michael was in like four scenes. So they just show those four scenes and then like show different parts of [01:55:00] those four scenes and then they’re just like, oh yeah.
And Bobby and Oh, Michael loved that telescope. You remember that time?
Ellen: He’s been around a lot, but um, but most of the time he is just hanging around in the background.
Alice: Yeah. Like,
Ellen: but
Alice: he exists, but it’s not the, does he really need a full montage?
Ellen: Yeah. The way that, um, Athena is so upset about him leaving, I’m like, aren’t they only planning to go for a couple of months? Like they’re coming back?
Alice: Yeah, like literally it’s a couple of months and they’re just like, oh my God. It’s, it’s forever.
Ellen: Yeah.
Alice: It’s so weird.
Ellen: But like it turns out it actually is forever.
Bex: Yes.
Ellen: Or at least for
Alice: Yes. This is it. Like Michael’s gone now.
Bex: Yes. This is, um, the last, this was Rockmond Dunbar’s last episode, and we are never going to see Michael again unless they recast him.
Alice: Oh my God. Apparently he was in 69 episodes and there was only those yes scenes. Like that’s pretty bad.
Bex: No, no, no. Was he in 69? Because he was a series regular, which means he [01:56:00] gets credited whether he’s in the episode or not.
Alice: Oh yeah. Hang on. Here we go. Credit only. Credit only. Credit only. Yes. Credit only. Yeah. So there were a lot of credit only in um, season one.
Bex: Yes. So this was why he made such a big deal about the fact that this was his last episode, was because he was a serious regular, he was getting a hundred thousand dollars, regardless of whether he was in an episode or not.
Alice: Yeah. Season three. Credit only. Credit only credit only.
Bex: Yeah.
Alice: Um, and he threw it all away because he’s a dumb ass.
Bex: The next episode was, which is Air episode 5 0 9 is production code 5 0 8. So it’s supposed to air before this one, so he’s still credited in the next episode.
Alice: Oh, interesting.
Bex: Because it was meant to air first, but this one was always meant to be Rockmond’s last episode. Um, because, and this is where the tea and I love this tea um, so
Alice: Everyone get your mugs [01:57:00] ready.
Ellen: Do tell Yeah. Do tell.
Bex: Um, his contract was terminated for, I’m assuming, breach of contract because when they came back from lockdown over the pandemic, one of the requirements was that cast and crew members had to get a COVID vaccine and Rockmond refused.
He tried to get a religious exemption from the COVID vaccine, and the studio refused to accept it, and so they terminated his contract early. Which was why.
Ellen: Wow.
Bex: Hang on. I’m gonna keep going ’cause there’s more tea, but I just wanna say, oh, so much more tea. This is why that episode when the fridge broke and all the COVID vaccines were about to spoil, and they made a big deal about the fact that Michael got the COVID vaccine.
Alice: That’s why we were laughing so hard
Bex: when his actor refused to get it.
Ellen: Right. Okay. That was very petty of them to, to make that like a fake vaccine. Yeah.
Bex: So Rockmond says, I’m not gonna get the [01:58:00] vaccine. I have a religious exemption. You know, I believe very strongly I don’t, that I’m, that the vaccines are bad, I’m not gonna get it. God tells me not to get the vaccine.
The studio says, uh, no, you’re gonna get it or you’re not gonna work on the show anymore. Um, and so they terminate his contract early. Um, he then sues the studios and it goes like,
Ellen: As to do. Yeah.
Bex: When you look, it’s sort of the hierarchy. You know, Fox is owned by, this is owned by that. It goes all the way up to Disney. So he was suing Disney for a raft of things. But the one that it really came down to, and the one that the news outlets and the entertainment outlets made a big deal out of was for discrimination on the basis of religion.
Ellen: Mm-hmm.
Bex: Basically saying that there were many other people on the cast and crew who got, um, who weren’t required to have the vaccine. Um, but because I was saying that I didn’t wanna get it for religious reasons, I was the one that got fired.
Ellen: What, what, what faith is he [01:59:00] like,
Bex: here’s the fun part. This is where the tea starts to get flavored. So he was claiming an exemption from the church, hang on, I’ve gotta find the correct. It is the Congregation of Universal Wisdom, which is basically an online only church.
It was founded in 1975 by a chiropractor because
Ellen: Okay.
Bex: Back in the se back in the seventies, um, chiropracty was kind of not seen as legitimate medical practice, um mm-hmm. And the chiropractors were often being accused of like satanism and paganism. So they’re like, no, no, no. We, you know, we are good Christian, like God commands us to do, uh, what we’re doing. Um,
Ellen: yeah.
Bex: Flash forward to like the 2020s, um, New York Times an article about the Congregation and basically said that they exist now just to provide religious exemptions to [02:00:00] medical mandates.
Alice: Yep.
Bex: Um, and one of the reasons, especially to vaccines and because one of the tenets of the Congregation of Universal Wisdom is that it is sacrilegious to introduce into the body living organisms or unnatural matter that may alter the natural balance of that organism.
God, basically, God, we believe that, um, vaccines are bad.
Ellen: They’re anti, they’re anti-vaxxers.
Alice: Yeah, but it gets better.
Bex: They’re anti-vax without saying anti-vax. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Because they did actually put to Rockmond in this, went to trial, it went to a jury trial, and the, um, council for Disney put to him like, would you say you’re anti-vax?
And he’s like, no, I’m not anti-vax. Um, but I haven’t got vaccines and I haven’t vaccinated my kids. The sticking point for Rockmond and why this religious exemption did not work is that the dude takes steroids. So he regularly,
Alice: he takes synthetic testosterone and,
Bex: and, [02:01:00] and an anti-estrogen in order to, um, boost the effects of the testosterone. And in fact, on top of as well as testosterone and this anti-estrogen, he takes another 37 medications.
Alice: Yeah.
Bex: And so
Alice: like Disney’s lawyer literally scrolled through a list of 37 medications Dunbar takes that aren’t natural. And he, ’cause he was like, oh, you know, I’m not perfect. And so she went through the entire list and was like, this is, uh, very far from perfect. This isn’t even close.
Ellen: Yeah.
Bex: He also, he didn’t help his case when he got on the stand and said, “man created the COVID vaccine to separate us from God. It is a spiritual war. It is a war of evil against good. I stood on the side of good, I stood on the shoulders of God.” Um, he also, um, tried to make claims that there were like fetal matter within the COVID vaccine
Ellen: Oh God.
Bex: Uh, aborted fetal cells and [02:02:00] contained quote unquote disease is what he actually said on the stand. Um, yep. So unsurprisingly, uh, the jury found and
Ellen: threw it out,
Bex: found Fox studios.
Alice: Yeah.
Bex: And they said that this re this religious exemption was not valid and the studio did not breach their contract by terminating Rockmond four, did not discriminate against Rockmond by terminating his contract early for failure to the, the vaccine.
Um, yeah.
Ellen: Wow.
Bex: So he, um. He’s screwed because he threw all of this money into this lawsuit. And surprisingly, I
Alice: against fucking Disney who own everything.
Bex: When you piss off Disney, it’s really hard to get work again.
Ellen: I bet
Bex: he has not worked since he got fired from 9-1-1.
Ellen: Geez.
Bex: Yeah. So, um, that’s why they wrote Michael off and that’s why we are never gonna see Michael again on the show unless they recast him ’cause Rockmond…
Alice: And that’s why we’ve kind of been [02:03:00] very like blase about Michael this entire show because like, we do not care because we’re like, he’s a fucking idiot.
Ellen: Yeah. I mean, I liked Michael as a character. He was funny, but like if you’re gonna fuck around, then
Bex: you’re gonna find out.
Ellen: You’re gonna find out.
Bex: Yeah. That’s, but like, like you said, I do love the fact that they forced his character to get the vaccine, even though the actor himself.
Ellen: Yeah, yeah. That,
Bex: um, I do, I do think.
Ellen: That’s just very salty.
Bex: That this was a very gracious ending. They could very easily have just literally killed Michael off
Alice: They gave him a very nice ending, considering
Bex: Yes.
Alice: Like, and maybe that’s why his, um, montage was just all Bobby. ’cause they were like, we don’t even wanna look at his fucking face.
Bex: I, I really just think they, they were struggling to find decent scenes.
Ellen: I mean, he had a
Alice: Yeah, I have feeling
Ellen: brain tumor not too long ago. Like they could,
Alice: I have a feeling they didn’t want to go the malicious route because he probably, like, when they terminated him, I’m assuming, he was like, I’ll take you all to court.
And they were like, that’s fine. We are gonna be real [02:04:00] nice to you. So that he couldn’t be like, oh, like look what they did to my character.
Ellen: Yeah.
Alice: Because they gave him a really gracious ending. Like they took the high road for the first time in their lives. Um, and yeah, so that they couldn’t be called out for like,
Ellen: But they still made him get the vaccine, which was,
Bex: they still made his character get the vaccine.
Alice: They still made his character,
Ellen: which is not the high road.
Alice: Just hilarious.
Bex: But yeah. So, um, season five was airing. A week before this episode aired, Deadline leaked that this was gonna be Rockmond’s last episode. And they’re like, we hear that it’s because he wouldn’t get the COVID vaccine. They aired this episode and then I’m guessing whatever gag order was on the cast and crew suddenly lifted and he was telling everyone “Yes, it’s because I tried to get a religious exemption because my God told me not to fill my body with disease and the studio fired me.”
Ellen: Yeah.
Bex: And then the lawsuit happened, and I love the fact that, um, so the [02:05:00] decision only got handed down in October of last year.
Ellen: Oh, wow. Really?
Alice: Yeah.
Bex: It’s super, very, very recent. And I’m so glad that we got, we got the decision why we were still, while we hadn’t got to this episode yet, because now we can get to this episode and I can go, this is the whole saga.
Alice: When the um, yeah, when the whole thing about the 37 medications and the synthetic testo testosterone came out, like everyone on Twitter was just like, he’s a fucking idiot.
Ellen: Yeah. Well, how did he think that he could get away with a lawsuit about like,
Alice: he’s, he’s not perfect, Ellen.
Bex: I mean, I
Ellen: clearly he’s not something,
Bex: something to play, devil to play a devil’s advocate. It could have been, um, quite, it could be quite a dangerous precedent to set that in order to claim religious exemption, you have to be a perfect follower of your faith.
Alice: Oh yeah. A hundred percent.
Bex: You had to tick,
Alice: but he’s a fucking idiot.
Bex: Tick I, if there are 10 boxes that you have to do in order for you to be a perfect follower, you have to tick all 10 [02:06:00] in order for you to be able to claim religious exemption. But I mean, if there were 10 boxes he’d ticked, like maybe one of them, and then there’s like, there’s 50 other things that are actively going against what his church believes. So
Ellen: geez. Alright, well, thank you for the piping hot tea.
Bex: Yes, yes. You’re very welcome. So then, yeah, like I said, he’s gonna be credited in next week’s episode, but he’s definitely not going to be in it. And they’re not gonna,
Ellen: yeah. Well, tell me about what’s actually happening next week.
Bex: Uh, next week, Bobby and the 118 race to the rescue when an abandoned oil well erupts and causes a massive sinkhole in downtown LA Athena.
Ellen: Oh, more explosions?
Bex: Uh, implosion.
Ellen: Yeah, I guess
Bex: because it kind of goes down and then the oil comes sinkhole up.
Ellen: Yeah. Okay.
Bex: Yeah. Um, la uh, blah blah, blah, [02:07:00] blah. Athena investigates a 30-year-old cold case involving a casino robbery, which is actually a fun storyline. I do like that one. Um, Buck fears his relationship with Taylor might be ending and Hen meets a man from her mother. Why do I feel like I’ve missed a word out from there?
Ellen: Meets a man from her mother.
Alice: Meets a man from her mother.
Ellen: She has a brother?
Bex: Let me just double check that one. I’m really hoping that I’ve just, um, cut and paste and missed out a word.
Ellen: Doesn’t make heaps of sense.
Bex: Oh, Hen meets a man from her mother, comma, Toni, comma past,
Ellen: oh
Bex: Hen meets a man from her mother’s past.
Alice: Right. Okay. Sure.
Bex: That [02:08:00] makes more sense.
Alice: Yes. I mean, yeah, I guess I mean, just better than “Hen meets a man from her mother.”
Ellen: Uh, okay. Now that we’ve picked this episode completely apart, um, and got very distracted in the middle of it, um,
Alice: doesn’t sound like us. We don’t get distracted. Never been distracted
Ellen: No, as usual. I, I, I liked it to start with, and now I think it’s totally ridiculous
Alice: the, the DS in a DHD stand for definition, not distraction.
Ellen: Sure. No, it was all right. I don’t know if like, you, you right on a rewatch, it might not be quite so, um, exciting, but, and now that I’ve, like, we’ve pulled out all the stupid bits, I’ll be like, oh no, not this again.
Alice: Um, yeah, the first watch through great. Lot of notes. Had a great time. Second watch through. I just, like, I’ve also, [02:09:00] I also, like, I watched The Pitt and then watched this episode and then watched the Pitt again, and I was like, this was a terrible idea. Um, because yeah, it’s just not great.
Bex: Yeah. The, the qua it, the, the drop in quality would be quite obvious. Um,
Alice: literally, and like the, the episode that, like, I ended The Pitt on to watch, this was like a cliffhanger. And then I watched another episode of the Pitt afterwards and it was also a cliffhanger. And I was just like, oh my fucking God.
Bex: They’re all, and they’re, they’re all cliffhangers.
Alice: They’re all cliffhangers on the hour. Every hour.
Bex: Yes.
Alice: But it just cracked me up when we just get this weird montage and I was like, cool. That’s all Bobby.
Bex: But as, as we said, like we’re, we’re shitting on this episode for, you know, being of lesser quality. Um, but there, it, the show can do these 10, these like dramatic episodes incredibly well. That’s why.
Alice: Yeah. And I think that’s why it’s disappointing because as I said, like rewatching some of them absolutely not great tv. Um, but [02:10:00] rewatching like the Albert car crash one? Amazing. Even still get chill every time or even still cry at fucking “To Build a Home” every fucking time.
Bex: Even something like “Eddie Begins” like, you know, he’s gonna survive.
Yeah. But there’s still tension and you’re still like, holy shit.
Alice: What? Yeah, they do the musical cues so well. I don’t even remember the music in this
Bex: other than the Hip hippity hobby ketchup song?
Alice: Other than the ketchup song. I remember none the music in this. Like they clearly blew all their budget on, um, on the explosion and didn’t leave any for anything fun.
Bex: Yep.
Ellen: So season five going so well,
Alice: I wonder if that’s why David and Michael only hugged as well, because Michael wasn’t vaccinated, so they couldn’t be close to each other.
Bex: Well, no, that’s what I was wondering.
Ellen: They weren’t allowed to kiss each other
Bex: because I mean, I dunno. I’m assuming that Rockmond has said, no, I don’t, I don’t want to do that.
Alice: It’s honestly amazing that [02:11:00] he even filmed this episode.
Ellen: Yeah. Well if he wasn’t, if, if the regulation was that
Alice: if he knew he’d been dismissed,
Ellen: you weren’t allowed to come back, that, you know, why did they let him come back at all?
Bex: I’m, I’m not, I’m assuming that there was, um, sort of negotiations and they like, they’re trying to find ways for him to work with them. I think I did see in one articles, uh, one of the councils said that this could have been resolved differently, but Rockmond was refusing to communicate with the studio.
Alice: Oh yeah. So maybe they left it open-ended.
Bex: If he had entered into negotiations, they could have found a way around it, but he was just kind of like, I’m just not gonna do anything about it. Um, as for filming, I have a feeling that he would’ve been in the wrong if he had refused.
Alice: Yeah.
Bex: So the studio can say the contract is in place until X date. Um, we’ll pay you up to X [02:12:00] date, um, and then we’re not gonna pay you anymore. You’re done. Um, and if he had said, no, I’m not going to play ball from now on, they could have gone, oh, cool. Now you’re in breach of contract, so we are gonna sue you.
Alice: Mm.
Bex: Um, for being a breach. So it was in his best interest to play along,
Ellen: but also the fact that he wasn’t vaccinated and interacting with other characters like other, other cast members, you know, like feels weird that he was allowed to actually,
Bex: well, then you get into the whole kind of herd immunity that, um, they would, they would probably have been vaccinated so they would be safe. Um, I I’m not gonna, yeah.
Ellen: I guess he’s only harming himself.
Bex: Yeah. Yeah. He is the one at risk. They’re not the ones in at risk.
Ellen: You are welcome to let us know what you thought about this episode, but please don’t… don’t tell us the vaccinations are bad for us because we have all had them.
Bex: We’re all pro-vaccine on this podcast.
Ellen: We are. Yes.
Alice: Yep. Pro-science. Yay. Maybe that’s why they did the whole science
Bex: We put our faith in [02:13:00] science.
Alice: Oh my God. That’s even funnier!
Ellen: We put our faith in science… and each other.
Alice: We put our faith in science guys,
Bex: do you hear that? Rockmond? We put our faith in science, not God,
Alice: but like David’s doing the line reading and they’re all just staring at Rockmond off screen.
Bex: To be fair, he probably wasn’t even on set that day. Um, because, uh, there was a comment that Aisha made about season five and one of the sort of criticisms she had about season five was that everybody was sort of off filming their own thing and she barely got to see the other cast members.
Alice: Oh, wow.
Ellen: Oh, okay. I feel like they’ve had a lot of storylines like together though. Like, oh, I guess she was off with Karen and like last episode, like they didn’t have much.
Bex: But like, if you think about this episode, like she had a lot of scenes with Ravi.
Ellen: Yeah.
Bex: Couple of scenes with Bobby, but did we actually see her interact with Oliver and Ryan?
Ellen: No. I mean, they were all in the truck on the way there, but they [02:14:00] could have,
Bex: were they?
Ellen: They were individually showing their faces. So they could have been in the truck in different, they could have been different.
Bex: They’ve been filmed at different days, at different times. Yeah.
Ellen: That’s right. Yeah. Uh, anyway, yeah. Please tell us what you thought about this episode. We better wrap this up. It’s been all over the place tonight.
Alice: Ellen’s ready for bed. Um, I haven’t watched Heated Rivalry in three hours now, so it’s,
Ellen: oh my God.
Alice: It’s a struggle.
Ellen: It’s never gonna wear off. Um, thank you. Thank you so much for listening all the way to the end of this rambling episode um, this week and next week we will talk to you about episode nine, which is called “Past is Prologue”. What a weird title. Anyway, see you then.
Bex: I’m sure it’ll make sense. Bye.
Alice: Bye.
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[first outtake]
Ellen: Oh, oh my god. Can you hear that? The thunder? Oh
Alice: no.
Ellen: Discords doing a great, there was just like a loud thunder clap. I’m like, fuck off. Okay. It’s all right. I’ll just be sitting here quaking in my boots. While the thunderstorm goes away,
Bex: no.
[second outtake]
Alice: Speaking of parakeets, we had one get loose a week ago. Can’t remember if I told you guys. Um,
Bex: no.
Alice: Oh. So we had a para, uh, budgie get loose at work. Um, it was funny ’cause it was the manager that let it go too, he was moving them from like the cage that they arrived in because there were a new batch, um, into the store [02:16:00] cages and one like flew past him. Um, so for three days we had a budgie that was just like hanging around the store and I was the one that caught it, put it back.
So props to me. Um, we bonded. I kind of wanted to keep her. Um, anyway, yeah, so she was flying around the store. She was on Monday. I had Autumn with me, and she was following Autumn around the store. It was really freaking cute. And anyway, our store is like, I don’t wanna say industrial, but like the roof is all like, just like shiny, like foil.
Basically like, it’s just like the insulation. It’s not like
Bex: mm-hmm.
Alice: Sealed in plaster or anything. Yeah. Um, and at one point the budgie flew up on a, like, light fitting and looked up and realized that the, the, um, roof was shiny and was just sitting there talking to herself for like a good 10 minutes and we’re all just like, watching her, just chatting to herself.
We’re like, this is the cutest thing ever because she’s just chatting away. ’cause she like missed the others. You could hear her like she was doing the, like, [02:17:00] where are you call, um, to the others. And, um, yeah. But yeah, she’s just like chatting to herself as a reflection on the roof and I’m like, oh my God, she’s so cute. I, um, we kept,
Bex: I was wondering where that story was going.
Alice: I kept yelling go home at her. So I called her Scott. And then when we, when I caught her and put her in the cage, the boss came over and was like, oh, it’s a little girl. And I was like, oh, so Scott doesn’t really work. Um, she also wasn’t 45 years old, so, you know.
Bex: Oh my God.
Ellen: That would be old for a budgie.
Alice: There you go. Yeah. You got it.
Bex: I finally got there. Oh. Tippy tap. I’m about to get a gif of um,
Alice: how did you know?
Bex: Shane yelling? Uh, so while Shane Hollander chirps at, um, Scott Hunter in the Discord, um, Buck and Eddie are racing up to the fifth floor.
[third outtake]
Ellen: I am really distracted watching Shane yelling at, um, at Scott [02:18:00] Hunter in the chat.
Alice: You haven’t, you haven’t noticed that since I posted that, that I’ve said go home like 12 times?
Ellen: Sorry.
Alice: Um, it’s just cute ’cause you can see Hudson break at the end of it and they kept it. Oh. But like the match was over. And Shane’s like, “yeah. Hope you show up next time.” And they’re like why are they fighting? The game’s over.
Ellen: Because he said “you’re starting to sound like him.”
Bex: You’re starting to sound like him.
Alice: No, I know, but the commentators didn’t hear that. So the commentators are just like, we don’t see Shane Holland Fi. We don’t see these two fight. And especially not after the game is finished
Bex: anyway. Um,
Alice: gay on gay crimes.
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