5.14: Dumb Luck

Welcome to That Weewoo Show: a podcast where Bex, Alice and Ellen watch and discuss every episode of ABC’s TV show, 9-1-1.

In this episode we discuss episode 14 of the fifth season of 9-1-1, titled “Dumb Luck”.

The members of the 118 race into action when a women falls over her penthouse balcony.

Content warnings for episode 5.14:

car accident (car versus pedestrian), claustrophobia, dangerous driving, depression, discussion of childhood cancer, discussion of postpartum depression, falling from a great height, flashbacks to gun violence and drowning, PTSD.

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Episode Transcript

Maddie: [00:00:00] 9-1-1. What’s your emergency?

Bex: Welcome back to That WeeWoo Show, a podcast where we watch and discuss episodes of the A B C show, 9-1-1. I’m Bex,

Alice: I’m Alice.

Ellen: And I’m Ellen.

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Alice: We sure do.

Bex: Before we start discussing this week’s episode, Alice, would you mind reminding us what happened in the last episode?

Alice: Last week on 9-1-1, the 118 ate a lot of fish. Maddie and Chimney broke up, but are back in LA. Nobody really faced their fears, and Eddie had an explosive breakdown after finding out the people he saved while in the army are all dead, which was very sad.

Ellen: Oh, poor Eddie. We did leave him in tears for longer than perhaps he should have been, but, but in this episode, the next episode is episode 14, which is called “Dumb Luck”.

And the summary says, the members of the 118 race into action when a woman falls over her penthouse [00:02:00] balcony. Meanwhile, Athena investigates a bike rider who is impaled on a stop sign. Eddie begins therapy for his PTSD and survivor’s guilt. And Maddie fears the worst when Jee-Yun falls ill.

Bex: Poor Maddie and Eddie, I guess

Ellen: Poor Maddie, Eddie. Don’t really

Bex: Also Athena was there.

Ellen: Care about the bike rider. I mean, okay. That sounds,

Bex: oh my God, the bike rider storyline was so stupid.

Ellen: Um, so, okay, so the triggers for this week, there’s quite a few, but it’s, it’s not as dark an episode as it sounds. As we, as you guys have warned me last week, triggers, we have a car accident, a car versus a pedestrian, claustrophobia, dangerous driving, depression, discussion of childhood cancer, which is a, a very brief mention of Maddie’s childhood, um, discussion of postpartum depression, falling from a great height, flashbacks to gun violence and drowning, and [00:03:00] PTSD.

So yeah, like there’s a bunch of dark stuff in the, in the triggers, but honestly, this episode was apart from some of the emergencies, which were just kind of silly. Um, it was actually like a quite enjoyable episode. I enjoyed it.

Alice: I really enjoyed it too.

Ellen: The character stuff was great.

Bex: Yeah, I think I sat in the, the group chat after you finished watching the episode, Ellen, that I, I couldn’t care less about some of the emergencies. Um, yeah. But the storylines with Lucy and the storylines with Eddie, and uh, with Maddie as well, they were really good.

I really enjoyed those and I forgot how much I liked those storylines.

Ellen: Yeah. Well, first we have to get through some emergencies. Actually, I, I felt like in this episode, the emergencies really had no bearing on the story at all. Like, you know, the, the rest of like, I guess they related to dumb luck in, in [00:04:00] a overarching kind of theme way, but I don’t know, I just, they, they felt a bit out of place. Does that make sense?

Bex: I, I think that for me, the one storyline that they, if you are looking at this as a themed episode, the one storyline that doesn’t fit is Eddie’s. But I don’t think it was meant to, I feel like all of these other, and

Ellen: they just had to continue it

Bex: storylines, they had to continue it and they do kind of dovetail Eddie’s storyline and the, the luck storyline sort of together at the end.

Or they try to like smoosh them together and make us believe that they fit together. But I feel like ev the rest of the episode is about luck and sort of discussions of what luck actually is. And then you’ve got Eddie’s storyline on the side.

Ellen: Mm-hmm.

Alice: Yeah. Yeah. But still, Eddie looks good in this episode, so not mad.

Ellen: He does except for the, he does, he sort of dark circles under his eyes. ’cause he’s still not apparently sleeping, but

Bex: Yeah. But they still work for him.

Alice: Yeah. I was [00:05:00] gonna say, I like my men looking a little, um, like

Bex: he’s a little rough around the edges, but that’s okay. I can fix him, but we’re not gonna start with Eddie.

Ellen: Alright, so no, these people have bought this apartment. Well, I don’t know if they’ve bought it or if they, they’re renting it, but it’s a very pretty location. Like they’ve got the penthouse on in this high rise building with a beautiful view. Apparently they just moved to LA because, um, the, the board was desperate to find someone to fill the position.

They don’t give us anymore about what the job is. At this point, or

Bex: Yes, it doesn’t specify which board or what board or what the position is. Uh, but we do find that out later. Um,

Alice: it was the board.

Bex: Yeah. So the, uh, the couple, um, Eric and Bailey decide that they are going to Christen their new penthouse [00:06:00] apartment um, on the balcony specifically…

Alice: yeah. Well, they don’t have any furniture yet, so sure. Why not

Bex: specifically on the railing of said balcony. Bailey’s a little bit hesitant because she’s concerned that people could see them. Although they are like on the penthouse, that they are the very, very top, the only people who could probably see them would be people in the other penthouse apartments, kind of in the other buildings.

But we get it. She’s gotta put up a little bit of, a little bit of resistance. Um. Eric simply says, “well, let’s, if people can see us, then let’s give them a show,” and oh, boy, what kind of show they get. Um,

Ellen: yeah, it’s like, wow. That’s, I mean, you get your kink on like, if that’s what you wanna do, but not on the railing of the balcony. Like,

Bex: it, it all, it starts off, like, it starts off okay. Because he’s got a hold of her, she’s got her legs wrapped around him. Um, but whatever resistance she had to getting it on, on the, the railing, um, [00:07:00] evaporates very quickly. And she’s trying to strip like, I don’t know what kind of show she was gonna put on, but apparently, honestly, like she’s really going for it.

Alice: I was just really distracted in this scene because like their view shows like the city but really far away. So I’m like, is this like the one high rise on the, out like outside of LA because like, I don’t know, I’m, I was so confused as the location.

Ellen: Yeah.

Alice: But also who are they putting on a show for? ’cause they’re really high up in the air and there’s no other high rises around. So.

Bex: Like, is it?

Ellen: Yeah, but they’re still out in the open, so she feels a bit exposed, I guess. But

Bex: so her, her res, like I said, she put up a token resistance and then she really gets into it, starts trying to strip, and in doing that, she lets go of him and he for some reason, lets go of her. And as Bailey is trying to take her jacket off, she over balances.

And I’m not victim blaming [00:08:00] because he also does, because I mean, she is leaning back, trying to take her jacket off. She has let go of him, but he does not try to grab her when she over balances. So he is just as much at fault in this situation.

Ellen: No, they just, they just kind of look at each other and she goes “Whoa!”

Bex: Yes, yes.

Alice: Not victim blaming, just victim why-ing.

Bex: I mean, it’s, it’s one of those situations where they’re both at fault. Everybody is at fault in this situation.

Alice: Everyone sucks. Yeah.

Bex: This is like not a victimless crime. Everyone sucks. Um, so Bailey goes tumbling over the edge of the balcony from the penthouse apartment.

Um, and we immediately cut to a 9-1-1 call where Eric says, “my wife just went over the edge” and, but he’s not quite as upset as he could be. So when the 118 are dispatched, they’re not dispatched for cleanup duty. Um, because Bailey hasn’t fallen that far. She’s apparently managed to catch herself on a [00:09:00] giant for sale sign that’s hanging on the side of the building.

So she’s only fallen like one or two apartments down. It’s not great because like she’s clinging for dear life.

Ellen: She, she’s still hanging on,

Alice: she’s really high up. Yeah,

Ellen: but the 9-1-1 call is like, “my wife just went over the edge!” It’s like this series has been, like, this season has been terrible for, for non informative 9-1-1 calls. I don’t, we’re gonna have a hard time picking the worst.

Bex: The 9-1-1 calls this season so far appear to be just a transitional, they’re not actually meant to be actual 9-1-1 calls.

Alice: No. Was it this se season that Sue got hit by the car? ’cause her, Jerry, Terry, Larry,

Bex: that was,

Ellen: I think it was last,

Alice: did a great um, 9-1-1 call

Ellen: season? I think that was in season four.

Bex: I cannot remember.

Ellen: No, I dunno.

Bex: Uh, it’s all started to blur back in together. Like it separates as we’re doing it and then it blurs back in together after we’re done.

Ellen: Yeah. [00:10:00]

Bex: Um, anyway, terrible transitional nine.

Alice: Oh, it was season four. Jesus Christ. Okay. Yep. Anyway,

Bex: terrible transitional 9-1-1 call, the 118 are dispatched. Bobby does that thing where he waits until everyone’s out of the truck on scene before he starts briefing them.

Ellen: Oh yeah.

Bex: But he gets everybody into tactical gear and starts sending them off in various directions. Um, and I have questions about why they send which characters in which direction, basically, because I’m feeling, um, very defensive of my boy Ravi, who does absolutely nothing in this scene.

Ellen: Yeah,

Alice: go girl. Give us nothing

Ellen: Was he even there? I don’t even remember Ravi being there.

Alice: No, he stands there and looks pretty.

Ellen: Oh, okay.

Bex: He does an amazing job at it. I give him that, but yeah,

Alice: 10 out 10 standing and looking pretty.

Bex: Lucy and Chimney gets sent to the floor below so that when Buck who’s coming down off the roof grabs hold of Bailey, he doesn’t have to try and [00:11:00] pull her back up or go sideways to the balcony.

He can lower her down to their level. Buck is going to the roof. Um, Ravi is with Bobby and Hen is being sent to find the manager.

Alice: Yeah. Why not? I guess

Bex: so. So my other issue is like, why are you sending Hen to run errands when you’ve got Ravi? Ravi could go and do that and it also means that when we cut to Buck later and he’s getting ready to descend over the edge, it’s a random 118 with him.

’cause somebody has to belay him. So like either, why didn’t they send Ravi to go to the manager and send Hen up on the roof with Buck? Why didn’t they send Ravi up to the roof with Buck? It’s just really weird. I don’t understand.

Ellen: It is weird.

Bex: Um, and then,

Alice: um, I do like that nobody stands underneath her. I’m like, yeah, good job.

Ellen: Well, they said it was too high for a, like a, um, airbag.

Alice: [00:12:00] Yeah. But like, we don’t want anyone else getting squished if she falls, like no one stands underneath her.

Ellen: Yeah.

Bex: Um, so the 118 move to follows Bobby’s orders and the music supervisor

Alice: Oh God.

Bex: Has way too much fun in this episode. Um, because

Ellen: it’s just a funny choice because, “Hold On, I’m Coming”. Okay. It’s a great thematic song for this emergency, but it’s like a really jaunty kind of song. Like it’s, yeah. It’s like she’s having, she’s hanging on for her life and they’ve got this like really tense kind of situation here, but it’s like, “hold on”.

Bex: I literally think it’s, it’s, it’s just because of the lyrics. Hold on, I’m coming are so funny.

Alice: Well she is indeed holding on. And they are indeed coming

Ellen: and they’re coming. Yeah. Yeah. Buck is coming,

Bex: but not like that.

Ellen: I read a fic about that. Anyway. Uh, yeah. Okay. So they get access to the units. So Hen [00:13:00] must have found the manager pretty quick.

Bex: So Chim and Lucy end up in the apartment underneath. I don’t know whether anybody was in that apartment, whether they’ve just let themselves in, whether they’ve just forced the, the apartment owner out.

Alice: Maybe it was the one for sale. Who knows?

Bex: I don’t know. And they really don’t care to tell us those little background details, but that’s fine. But inquiring minds wanna know.

Um, so Lucy starts setting up the safety ropes. There’s the giant concrete pillar running through the living room area of the apartment. So she’s, um, securing the ropes to that while Chim is using the glass, uh, maneuvering do hickey thingies to get the pane of glass out of the window.

Ellen: Oh yeah, that’s good. They just pull the glass out rather than, um, breaking it or anything. Or open, like if they can’t open

Bex: or try to. He’s not opening the window. He is just literally removing the pane of glass.

Ellen: Yeah. Removing it. Yeah.

Bex: Um, Bobby and and Ravi have gone to the penthouse level [00:14:00] to talk to, um, the husband and to sort of like keep an eye on Bailey.

Um, and then Ravi just sort of stands there and looks pretty for the entire thing. Bobby even just kind of stands there and looks over the side and like, oh yeah, that’s what we got going on. And Buck is preparing to, uh, descend from the roof. But we have a problem because when Hen has finished, like talking to the manager, she joins Chim and Lucy and she realizes that um, the rope that is holding up the for sale sign and Bailey is starting to to strain under the weight.

Ellen: It’s like fraying.

Bex: Yes.

Ellen: It takes forever to,

Alice: it’s almost like it’s not designed to hold up a human

Bex: hold up that much weight?

Alice: Yeah.

Ellen: Yeah.

Bex: Especially when it’s unbalanced. I’m sure it would probably be okay if Bailey was smack in the middle of the sign, but she’s hanging, clinging right to the edge end of the sign.

Um, [00:15:00] so everybody has to move fast, like Buck is slow, is lowering down as, as fast as he can. And he gets to, he gets sort of within grabbing reach of Bailey and tells her that he’s gonna get her, he’s gonna, he’s got a safety harness out. Um, he’s gonna put it around her and get her down. Um, except just as he starts to lower that safety harness, uh, the rope breaks the sign, jolts and Bailey drops.

Ellen: Oh, I thought they’d lost her for a moment.

Bex: I’m thinking, oh my God. It’s the, like the county fair Spider-Man situation all over again.

Alice: Oh my God, right? Poor Buck. Yeah. Like, oh, we’re going through Eddie’s PTSD but hey, you know what’d be funny?

Bex: Let’s, let’s, um, trigger Buck as well by letting him get so close to rescuing someone and then watching her literally fall from his hands.

Um, so he can’t do anything. He’s just hanging there [00:16:00] watching her fall. Hen kind of from the balcony, sort of jolts as if she thinks she can reach out and grab Bailey. Um, but it’s Lucy who saves the day because she hears everyone screaming, especially Bailey screaming and leans out the window to see what’s going on and Lucy literally lands in her arms.

Ellen: Yeah.

Bex: And thankfully she has the foresight to like grab her and hold onto her and then brace herself with like her legs against the glass underneath her so that she also doesn’t topple over the window and follow, um, Bailey down to the ground.

Ellen: Yeah. Except. Bailey’s like dragging her out the window kind of thing. ’cause she’s,

Alice: I dunno what Chim was doing that, but yeah, Lucy just yells for him and he looks over and he is like, “oh Jesus.” I was just so excited to have Chim back.

Ellen: Yes. Yeah. It’s a great shot though. Like, I don’t know how they filmed it, like with, with their falling into like, because we keep seeing it over and over again and [00:17:00] it looks ridiculous. Like it’s not, I don’t, I don’t know. It just,

Alice: it’ll be in the studio.

Ellen: Yeah.

Alice: But yeah, it was well done. Um, very well. But yeah, so Chim, Chim pulls the, the girls back in, um, Bailey’s just like, “oh my God. Oh my God.” And then like sits up and looks at Lucy and just gives her the biggest hug. And it was like, “thank you. Oh my God.”

Bex: Yeah, it’s so funny. So like they literally pile onto the ground. So Bailey’s sort of on top of Lucy, she sits up, realizes she’s okay, and then throws herself back down onto Lucy.

Alice: Yeah, back down to Lucy.

Ellen: Lucy’s like, whoa. I

Alice: mean, okay. Do you blame her? I would also be throwing myself at Lucy. Anyway.

Bex: Look Ariel. Ariel looks really good in this episode. I would also be throwing myself down on onto her if I had the opportunity. Yes,

Ellen: she does look great.

Bex: But yes, Bailey asks, I don’t know, like she’s like, “oh my God, thank you. I don’t know how you guys just did that.” And Chim looks at Lucy and everybody get your shot glasses ready because he says, “Dumb [00:18:00] luck.”

Ellen: Oh my God. They say it’s so much during this episode.

Alice: It’s been, I feel like it’s been so long since we had an episode that like was cringey with the title like this. And I, like I was so about it, like this week’s, um, ’cause I watch this episode today and the season nine episode aired yesterday and I really enjoyed yesterday’s season nine episode.

And then watching this today, I was just like, ah, it’s two good episodes in a row. Like, it’s been so long since that happened because we’ve been so down on season nine and season five that it was so refreshing. I’m just like, oh, my 118 are back. Like, this is great.

Ellen: We haven’t been that down on season five. Like we’ve had a few good episodes in a row. There’s just,

Alice: it’s just like Chimney’s back.

Ellen: Yeah. Just like we’ve got a good themed episode where they’re try and they’re actually trying to do everything to a theme. That it actually kind of works. We’ve got multiple, um, title references. We’ve got a music supervisor who’s high on crack.

Alice: Yeah, [00:19:00] that’s great. We’ve the terrible needle drop we’ve got. Yeah,

Ellen: it feels like old school 9-1-1.

Alice: It does. I was having such a good time. Um, speaking of having a good time, um, Eddie is not, um,

Bex: no,

Alice: he’s making

Bex: no look, he’s to start with, he’s having a great time to start with.

Alice: Yeah. He’s making Chris breakfast. So yeah, he, uh, he pours some, um, like fake Lucky Charms, which I did actually like, I wanted to point out because the episode’s “Dumb Luck” and then he makes, makes Chris Lucky Charms.

Bex: Oh, oh my God. I didn’t even, I was looking at the cereal going like, I wonder what kind of cereal it is. ’cause it’s a cereal with like little marshmallows in it.

Alice: Yeah, it’s definitely supposed to be Lucky Charms. Yeah. But yeah, he like presents it to Chris like it’s a gourmet meal. He’s got the towel over his arm. He’s like, “May I offer you a glass of water or orange juice?” Chris is like “Orange [00:20:00] Juice, please.”

Bex: He’s hamming it up. He’s having a great time.

Alice: It’s so cute. He pours Chris a glass of orange juice. Chris asks, I mean, Eddie asks how it is, Chris says it could use more marshmallows. And Eddie’s like, “Couldn’t we all?”

Bex: Eddie’s not having Lucky Charms or like the ravenous ravenous rhino’s equivalent of Lucky Charms. Um, he’s got a bagel with cream cheese and he very purposefully, when he takes a bite out of his bagel smears, the cream cheese, so he ends up with like a cream cheese mustache.

Ellen: Oh, that’s so cute.

Bex: And then looks complete and then looks completely innocent when Chris sort of tells him like, you got something on your face. Um, and to the point where he then takes another bite and the cream cheese ends up on his nose and he’s like, “what? What’s wrong with my face?” Um, it’s just, it’s so, it’s so fun and

Alice: it’s so endearing. It’s so dad.

Bex: But what’s good is

Ellen: it’s very dad.

Bex: Like, you know how sometimes when they have dream [00:21:00] sequences and they start off with like, everything’s happy and everything’s fun and there’s nothing wrong, but it’s like too much. And you know that it’s a dream because it’s like over the top. I can, this is, this is like core Eddie and Chris.

Alice: Yeah.

Bex: In reality.

Ellen: Yeah.

Bex: So this is how they would normally interact. There’s nothing weird about what’s going on here. So you don’t realize that you

Ellen: didn’t even clock that it was a dream.

Bex: Yeah. You don’t realize it until. Eddie gets up, he goes to the sink to grab a paper towel so he can wipe his face. And when he turns back around, Chris says, “what’s wrong with your leg?”

And Eddie’s like, “What do you mean? I didn’t put cream cheese on my leg. What are you talking about?” Looks down and there’s a bullet hole in his thigh.

Alice: Yeah, there’s like a bit of red, like spreading slowly, and Eddie like touches it and looks at the bloody finger fingers and it’s just like, what the fuck? And that’s where it flashes back to the helicopter crash um, where he got shot [00:22:00] after the chopper went down.

Bex: Yeah. Just to re just so for the audience to remember like this, like Eddie got shot in the leg.

Alice: Yeah.

Bex: Um, and then after he experiences that he flinches and we flash back to Eddie flinching when he gets shot by the sniper and then all of a sudden there is blood stain starting to spread on his shoulder where the sniper shot him.

And we flash back to Eddie collapsing in the street. And Eddie, Dream Eddie, current Eddie, uh, collapses against the fridge in the kitchen and Chris is just sitting at the table continuing to eat his cereal.

Alice: Yeah. Chris is just totally ignoring him and Eddie like looks up and goes, “I think I’m dying.” And Chris, while still eating, just goes, “You’re always dying.”

Ellen: Dream Chris is a little shit.

Bex: But I did, I did like your comment because we were talking about [00:23:00] this scene in the chat and um, you’re like, you know, Chris does not give a fuck, but you, Ellen mentioned that like it’s Eddie’s subconscious creation of Chris.

Ellen: Yeah.

Bex: So like Chris in reality, like the Chris in real life is incredibly empathetic and incredibly in tune with his father and would absolutely be worried, but because of the way Eddie um, perceives himself and perceives the way people see him, he’s created this creation of Chris that just does not give a fuck.

Ellen: Yep.

Bex: And he’s so totally over his father, constantly being in the line of danger.

Ellen: Poor Eddie.

Bex: But, um, while Chris doesn’t seem to care that his father is dying, we’ve got like one more. So he’s been shot in the thigh. He’s been shot by the sniper. He then starts choking on water as he flashes back to drowning in the well.

Ellen: He has almost died a lot of times, to be fair,

Alice: he has almost died a lot of times.

Bex: He really has. Um, but just before he like [00:24:00] drowns for like lungs full of water, um, Eddie wakes up and he realizes that he’s on his couch in his house. Uh, he’s not shot. He’s not drowning, he’s not dying. Interestingly though, Bobby is there and I have so many questions about this, like, why is Bobby there?

Ellen: Yeah, I, I did think that as well. I’m like, why the hell is Bobby there? Like yeah. Is he babysitting, uh, like Eddie?

Alice: Is? Yeah.

Ellen: Like does Eddie need someone with him all the time? Is he on suicide watch? Like, you know, is like, why would Bobby be there? It’s really odd.

Bex: Well, the only thing I could think of is like Eddie wakes up and Bobby’s immediately there with coffee and Eddie’s first questions are, “what time is it? Where’s Christopher?” And Bobby tells Eddie and us that Buck has taken Christopher to school.

So the way that I worked it out in my head is that, um, Eddie fell asleep on the couch. It looks like he might have fallen [00:25:00] asleep the night before. ’cause he’s still fully dressed like he’s got a belt on and jeans. This is not like he stayed up later. He got up early and fell back asleep. He’s been on the couch for a while.

Chris gets up, sees his dad on the couch. Doesn’t wanna wake him up ’cause he knows his dad’s going through it right now. So he reaches out to his other other parent and goes, can you take me to school? And so Buck goes, yes, I will come and take you to school. But he doesn’t want to leave Eddie alone in the house because if Eddie wakes up and Chris isn’t there, he’s gonna freak the fuck out. So he calls Bobby.

Ellen: So he calls dad,

Bex: Bobby ies, he calls dad and he goes,

Alice: Look, Chris. Chris calls his dad, Buck calls his dad.

Bex: Yes. And then Buck calls his dad.

Alice: It’s just Dads all the way down.

Bex: It’s dad’s all the way down. Yeah. So it’s like,

Ellen: but also the last time we saw Bobby and Eddie together, they were fighting like

Alice: Yeah. They were not amicable,

Bex: which just makes it so it’s so Bobby Nash core that [00:26:00] like Eddie absolutely hurt him the last time he saw, but either because Buck asked him to or because he knows, like we find out that Buck told Bobby what Eddie’s going through probably as to the. Like, why do I have to come over and watch him while you take Buck to, while you Buck while you take Chris to school?

And he’s like, well, because Eddie’s really going through it right now. So it’s either because Buck has asked him to or because he, even though Eddie is no longer at the 118, he’s still part of Bobby’s family. He’s like, one of my family members is hurting, so I’m going to do whatever I can specifically because Bobby understands what it like, what it is like to lose people and to lose people when you think it is your fault.

So he’s uniquely qualified to sort of babysit Eddie.

Ellen: Aw, bless dad.

Bex: But like all of that in maybe three lines of dialogue, there’s just so much the background character shit that is underneath three lines of dialogue and this [00:27:00] scene.

Ellen: Yep. And but Bobby, it seems like he was going to wake Eddie up anyway because he’s got two cups of coffee with him. So maybe

Bex: I wonder if he was just sitting in the kitchen, like constantly reheating the coffee. Just keeping an eye on Eddie until he woke up so that he’d have the coffee there ready for him. Like, it’s like in, um, Devil Wears Prada, where they’re just constantly rebuying new coffees and new lunches every 15 minutes until Miranda’s ready to eat lunch so that it’s ready for her when she wants it.

Ellen: Yeah. I wonder how long Bobby’s just been sitting around waiting for him to wake up.

Bex: I mean, it’s slightly creepy when you put it that way, but

Ellen: Well, he’s, he knows what it’s like to have nightmares and, and I mean, Eddie wakes up with a jolt like he’s Yeah. Clearly waking up for a nightmare.

Bex: Yes.

Ellen: Yeah. Bobby says it’s, it’s your mind’s way of working through a traumatic experience.

Eddie can’t believe that they’re all gone and he’s [00:28:00] still there. He’s still here. And Bobby tells him, you’ll nev. “That’s a question you’ll never be able to answer. You can chalk it up to the grand plan of some higher power or just dumb luck.” Take another drink everyone. But the result is same

Alice: in the second scene, but sure.

Ellen: They just keep coming

Alice: That’s it.

Ellen: But yeah, Bobby’s being very understanding, so I guess he’s, yeah, he must, he’s forgiven Eddie for like yelling at him in the last time.

Bex: I feel like there was, it would be one of those situations where there’s nothing to forgive.

Like yeah, Eddie hit below the belt, but I feel like Bobby understood that Eddie was really struggling and that he knows that Eddie lashes out when he gets hurt. So he is like, yeah, ouch. That stung a little bit. And yeah, I’m gonna be thinking about that for a while, but I kind of understand why you did it. Um,

Ellen: yeah.

Bex: And. There’s nothing to forgive.

Ellen: You’re still my son and I still love you.

Bex: Yes. Pretty much.

Alice: That’s it. [00:29:00] Families fight, but it’s fine.

Bex: Yes. Um, yeah, I feel like Eddie, after that last conversation, would’ve just avoided Bobby like the plague. Like he didn’t quite go to the full extent of suing Bobby to try and get back at the 118. Um, but he definitely would’ve been like embarrassed by way.

Ellen: Unlike some people.

Bex: Unlike some people, Evan. Um, but he’s probably would’ve been very embarrassed about the way he acted. I think he was,

Alice: yeah.

Bex: Like the way he talked to Frank, he was embarrassed about the way he reacted. He didn’t quite know what to say to Bobby, but they don’t bring it up at all. Like neither of them mention the last time they spoke. It’s just immediately like water under the bridge ’cause we got new shit to deal with.

Ellen: Yeah. Interesting. I mean, probably good because we don’t really need to hear them.

Bex: We don’t really need to rehash it

Ellen: apologizing to each other, but yeah.

Bex: But again, it’s like, it’s another layer that’s sort of just sitting, sitting under this scene. Um, which [00:30:00] like on the face of it is like very current and, and very um, relevant to sort of Eddie’s storyline. But then you’ve got all this other character stuff just folded up underneath and shoved underneath it you can pull out and go and really appreciate um, these characters more.

Ellen: It’s fanfic stuff. Tell ya.

Bex: It’s, and I love it. Um, I also love that after we finish with Bobby and Eddie, we get to see Jonah is leaving ’cause Chim is back and he is no longer needed at the 118 Jonah, that is.

Alice: Bye Jonah.

Bex: Chim’s always been needed at the

Alice: Chim’s always needed.

Bex: Bye Jonah. Chim is always needed. Jonah is no longer, so Jonah is gone.

Ellen: Yeah. And I mean Hen’s the one sort of saying goodbye to him and it’s nice that they’re actually on speaking terms now. They’re not like. Hen’s not giving him the cold shoulder so much. Oh, she’s relieved that Chim’s back obviously, but, um, [00:31:00] she, he tells her that, um, “Cap, your cap found me a spot at another house.”

So she’s, um, happy for him.

Bex: Yeah, that’s pretty much the gist of the scene. It’s just a lot of

Ellen: yeahs, only a little

Bex: Jonah’s outta there. Um, perhaps if they had cut down this next couple of scenes, they would’ve had more time to expand on the Jonah and Hen scene. Um, oh my God. But know, they decided that we were gonna spend way too much time on this next emergency.

Alice: We, we do have a lot of time with this emergency. The whole time. I was just thinking of Good Omens as well.

Ellen: Yes. Because “Every Day” by Buddy Holly, and I’m like, oh, damn, I need to watch season two again before the third season comes out like in May.

Alice: Are you getting a third season? Is it just a mo I think it’s just a movie, isn’t it?

Ellen: Yeah. It’s like one extra long episode unfortunately, but at least we get something. I guess that’s better than no. Like they’re not gonna pull Our Flag Means Death on us [00:32:00] and just finish it at the end of the second season. But anyway, yeah, this song just reminded me of that the whole time.

Bex: I couldn’t understand why they used this song though.

Ellen: No,

Bex: it says really no, it doesn’t seem to be like, “Hold On, I’m Coming” absolutely is applicable to the emergency with the, the woman who’s literally holding on while the 118 are coming to save her. Um, I don’t see anything in the lyrics or anything in the theme for this song that connects to being stuck into a donation charity bin for like hours.

Um, which is what happens. So we have a guy who, uh, he’s broken up with his ex, broken up with his partner, um. Partner has not come to collect his shit. So, our intrepid future victim, um, decides that he’s just going to get rid of it all. He’s going to donate it. Um, but in putting all of the bags into the charity bin, he [00:33:00] also drops his keys in and then in trying to get said keys out, he ends up falling into said charity bin.

Ellen: Yeah. And he does try to open the flap to get out, but it’s, it’s meant to be opened from the outside and there’s no way to kind of lever it open. He tries to but he can’t do it.

Bex: Yeah. So this dude is in there for 10 hours roughly,

Ellen: and it feels like 10 hours.

Bex: I know that

Ellen: as we watched

Bex: it, feel like we’re living it in real time. Um, and we know that it’s 10 hours because there is a security camera on the building sort of opposite the charity bin. And we keep flashing to feed from the security camera, which has a timestamp. Um, and it’s basically just to show that this guy is stuck in the charity bin and absolutely nobody is paying attention to him.

He’s banging on the bin, nobody is paying attention. He’s using his keys, which he manages to find after falling into the bin, um, to trigger the car alarm. Um, so the car alarm is [00:34:00] going off for hours. Nobody’s even batting an eye.

Ellen: Yeah. Eventually a a tow truck comes and turns up and like, takes the car away.

Bex: Yeah. Because he’s parked in a, he’s parked in a disabled spot, so that’s what they’re worried about, that the car is in a disabled spot.

Ellen: Yeah. And the alarm keeps going off, so obviously someone’s just got the shits and called someone.

Bex: Yeah. Um, and, and nobody actually finds him, um, until the 118 is called to a bowling alley, which is like the building opposite the charity bin. Um, on an, on another emergency, and luckily Hen hears him banging on the bin while they’re getting the bowling alley victim into the ambulance.

Ellen: I, I’m not really sure why she’s so invested in what, finding out what this banging is. Like I would probably just assume it was an animal. Like,

Bex: yeah.

Ellen: I don’t know. She, it takes her a while to work out that it’s actually [00:35:00] something inside the bin that’s making the noise.

Bex: Well, it’s, it’s one of those things where like she, we see from Hen’s point of view is she’s sort of scanning around the parking lot. Um, and we know that the noise is coming from the charity bin, but she doesn’t know.

But she seems to hone in very quickly to the fact that it’s coming from the charity bin. I feel like I would’ve been checking the dumpster first, or like the other things that were around, but we don’t have time for that. We spent all of our time watching the fricking

Ellen: timestamps

because the guy doesn’t need, he doesn’t call out, right? He, he doesn’t call out or anything, and he’s just banging. Until she opens the flap and sees

Bex: he’s like dehydrated and he’s got heat stroke because it’s, you know, it’s, I think we actually did it’s April, um, and he’s been stuck in that bin in the sun

Ellen: all day. Yeah.

Bex: Um, so he probably doesn’t have the energy to yell. He’s also probably been yelling all day. So yes, just some random banging is enough to get Hen’s attention, which is lucky for him [00:36:00] because she and Bobby can then get him out and that’s it. That’s the whole emergency.

Ellen: Yeah. I mean the, the reason the whole reason they’re there is because some guy got his fingers stuck in a bowling ball and I was like, how?

Why, like how? When she goes, I was more like, “once the swelling goes down, they’ll be able to remove it.” I’m like, how did you get your fingers stuck in the ball? I, anyway,

Bex: I was more concerned like, okay, cool, you got your fingers stuck in the bowling ball. You know, that happens. But he’s also got a, like a bloody nose and a bandage wrapped around his head. So what happened to cause like the head injury and,

Ellen: yeah. Did you like

Bex: the fingers stuck?

Ellen: Did bowl yourself down the, your head, like, it’s really odd.

Bex: I’m more, I’m more interested in that one. Can we like, can we have that emergency rather than the guy stuck in the?

Ellen: Oh, they never explain it.

Bex: No,

Ellen: never explain it. They just say once the swelling goes down they’ll be able to remove [00:37:00] it. It’s like, what? But anyway, yeah. I think they have to get the guy out of the bin instead.

Bex: It just feed. Yeah, it just feeds into like the, they’re lucky. He’s lucky that there was another emergency at the bowling alley. So they’re able to find him.

And, you know, change his luck. ’cause he had bad luck because he dropped his keys in. Um, his bad luck continues because he thinks that they found him, um, because the car, because somebody heard the car alarm and called them and Hen and Bobby are like, what car? And he looks over and realizes that his car is gone. So like his bad luck has continued.

Ellen: Yeah.

Bex: And literally he says, “oh, this really isn’t my lucky day.”

Alice: No it is not.

Ellen: Take another drink. Okay. It’s not really the title, I guess

Alice: it’s close

Ellen: title adjacent.

Bex: We can sniff the shot, [00:38:00] just like inhale the app, inhale the fumes, um, rather than actually taking a shot. Um, or we could get a beer, which is what Lucy and Jonah are doing in the next scene.

Ellen: Yes, Jonah and Lucy are, are catching up. I’m, I’m guessing this is later, after Jonah left.

Bex: I think so. I, I feel like it’s the next day or days a couple of days later. Um, but I love, like, I don’t love Jonah. I could like see less of Jonah. That’s fine. But I do, I do really, um, like this idea of these two kind of outsiders of the 118 have kind of bonded over the fact that they’re not a core member of the 118.

Ellen: Yeah.

Bex: So they’re having lunch. Lucy arrives with a baseball mitt, which has a note pinned, uh, inside the, the glove that says, “congrats on a great catch”. And she, she needs, she asks Jonah, [00:39:00] um, is she in with the clique? Like Jonah seems to think or are they mocking her? And Jonah says, yeah, I don’t think those are mutually exclusive at the 118.

Alice: Yeah.

Ellen: I mean, she’s right.

Bex: They tease her because they love her.

Ellen: Yeah. I was gonna say, it depends on whether you are in the clique as to whether it’s a gesture of affection or if they’re actually giving, taking the piss.

Bex: See, I feel like that if you, if they didn’t like you, they wouldn’t bother. Like if you are not in the clique, they’re just, you don’t really exist and they’re not gonna take the effort to like go out and buy a baseball mitt and write a note. And

Ellen: it’s quite a lot of effort. To be fair.

Bex: It’s a lot of effort. So I feel like it’s, it’s a sign that they like her and they’ve accepted her. That, that they’re ribbing her about this. Um, but Lucy’s not happy. She’s not loving it. Uh, which Jonah can’t understand. She’s, he’s like, “why are you so down? You saved a woman with your bare [00:40:00] hands. You’re all over the news.” He can’t understand why she’s not reveling in all this attention.

Ellen: Yeah. She, she doesn’t feel like she’s a hero.

Bex: Especially because last time she did something heroic, like she was dancing around a bar and taking shots. So why this time is she, as she said, considering changing her phone number so reporters like Taylor Kelly will stop calling her.

Ellen: Yeah. She doesn’t feel like it was anything special that she did, which like, yeah, it is a bit of a back flip, you know? Like,

Bex: I understand her logic. ’cause she says that in the speed emergency she was active, like she jumped into the truck to save the family. She, um, she was doing something, it was her decisions, it was her actions that saved them.

This time she literally put out her hands and Bailey fell into them. Anyone at the 118 would’ve done the same thing. She’s not special.

Ellen: Yeah.

Bex: So I, I do understand the logic. I feel like feel it’s sort of like [00:41:00] the Steve Bradbury sort of thing. Like he didn’t win the gold medal by like skating his best and being the best he was. He won the gold medal simply because he was the only one who stayed upright.

Alice: Yeah. And he was literally, he was so far behind that he missed the crash because

Bex: Yeah,

Alice: they were all ahead of him.

Bex: It was, it was like luck and a little bit of skill and a little bit of, but a little bit of luck. And the Lucy’s the same. It’s like, I didn’t, it’s not like I actively tried to save her. I was just there. It just happened.

And Jonah says, “Well, I wish it had kind of happened to Hen. I think she would be enjoying the limelight a little bit more than you are.” Um, and he asks Lucy, “How is Hen by the way, does she miss me terribly?” Um, I feel like he’s, like, he was desperate for Hen to like him.

Ellen: Yeah.

Bex: Um, but. Lucy absolutely shoots that down and says “She still calls you Monday.”

Ellen: He looks so, [00:42:00] he looks so sad,

Bex: he’s devastated.

Ellen: It’s like, damn,

Alice: it sucks to be Jonah,

Bex: it does suck to be Jonah. But I do like this little like bonding session that the two of them have.

Alice: Yeah, it’s like the, the outsiders.

Bex: Yes.

Alice: The 118 outsider club.

Bex: Yeah, because it, it’s not even that, they’re not core like A team.

They’re even outside of the, the 118 as a whole. ’cause you’ve got like the, A team that have bonded and then you’ve got all of the other, like the B shift and all the other members of the 118 have kind of bonded having to deal with the A team. And then you’ve got Lucy and Jonah who just do not fit in anywhere yet.

Ellen: Alright. From that cute little, uh, bonding scene to the next, Karen and Hen are over at Bobby and Athena’s place and they’re playing cards. And they’re talking about Lucy’s catch,

Bex: like it’s a cute scene. I don’t quite understand the need for it. It’s cute, but it doesn’t [00:43:00] progress the story.

Ellen: No,

Bex: but I do enjoy Karen, so I’ll let them, I’ll let them keep it.

Ellen: I feel like we haven’t seen Karen for ages, like it’s been a while since, probably since the Christmas episode. So maybe that’s,

Alice: I I feel like we just ha we, we took a break as well, so it’s probably just been a while.

Ellen: Yeah. I don’t know. Um, yeah, Karen can’t believe it that she just caught her. Bobby sort of says she opened her arms, a woman fell, fell into them and Hen’s like, “I told you this 12 times. Why do you believe him and not me?” But yeah, Karen just can’t believe it. Uh, that’s pretty much it because the rest of it’s just playing cards.

Bex: Yes.

Ellen: I mean it does, it does set up to. For Athena to be playing cards later on in the episode, but it doesn’t really,

Bex: not really, I think the only doesn’t

Ellen: really help with that.

Bex: No, I think the only sort of extra bit we get out of this is that, um, [00:44:00] Toni has been teaching Karen how to play cards.

Ellen: Oh yeah. That’s what they do in the spare time when, when Hen’s at work.

Bex: Yeah. Yes. I would prefer like another 15 minutes of the four of like the married couples having their little married couples poker night than this scene that’s coming up.

Ellen: Yes. Because a woman, like, do we get her name?

Bex: She’s Jules.

Ellen: Oh, Jules.

Bex: Jules Patterson.

Ellen: Okay. Jules. She does get a name. Um,

Bex: she does,

Ellen: she’s riding her bike in the middle of the road, uh, at night. She does have lights, and she also has a sign on the back of her bike, which says, share the road. Um, because she’s is riding right in the middle of the road, so

Alice: even Yes. She’s not sharing the road.

Bex: Yeah. Because in California, and I did look this up because in like where I live, the rule is if you are riding a bike on the road, you have to stay as close as practical to the side of [00:45:00] the road. You can’t ride in the middle of the road. And I’m going, surely California has something similar and they do, if you are in California and you are riding on the road, you need to stay as close as practicable to the right hand side.

So she, like, she’s yelling at these cars, um, for honking her when she’s in the wrong in this situation.

Ellen: Mm-hmm.

Bex: So, yeah. So a car comes up behind her and is honking and is revving and she yells at him to read the sign, which is like the share the road sign. Um, and he just swerves around her and that happens again.

Another car, uh, comes up behind her, tailgates her and swerves around, and, um, she starts yelling at him because he has passed her on a double yellow line, which I’m guessing that’s universal, that you can’t pass. You can’t cross double yellow. Um,

Ellen: yeah.

Bex: And then she starts yelling at him, read the sign, which makes [00:46:00] absolutely no sense in the context.

I know why they’re saying it, because they want the juxtaposition, like the irony of her saying, read the sign, and then she gets like, vivisected by a sign. Um, but like she’s yelling at him about crossing a double yellow. There’s no signs about that on the road. If she’s complaining about the sign behind her, he’s now in front of her, so he can’t read the sign. It’s just,

Ellen: it is weird. Yeah, I did, I don’t think I caught that until just now. Maybe, maybe we are just not, not meant to catch it. And you did, but she catches it because she catches the sign right in the middle of her. Uh, it comes flying at her from the back of this truck after it goes over a speed bump.

Bex: Yeah. It goes as a series of speed bumps and in very Final Destination ish sort of way.

Ellen: Yes.

Bex: Um, the, the jostling of the, um, the speed bumps launches the, [00:47:00] um, the stop sign at quite a velocity and also launches it, um, vertically so that it hits this poor woman, like straight down the middle of her body. Yeah.

And I do, I do kind of appreciate that she’s screaming, like “read the sign, read the sign!” And then all of a sudden it’s just this sign flying at her. And then we hear like the impact. We hear a squelch, and then we go to commercial.

Ellen: Yeah. But she is the one who has called 9-1-1 after that

Bex: and is still going on about the sign. So

Ellen: yeah.

Bex: Anyway, it’s, it’s another one of those where they’re like, I, we want, this is the, this is the moment we want. We want her talking about a sign and the sign comes launching at her. Um, we’re kind of gonna fumble the ball getting there, but no one’s gonna care because of that last couple of seconds.

Ellen: Mm-hmm.

Bex: Um, so [00:48:00] I feel like this scene, you know how we’re talking, uh, we’re always talking about what happens in the writer’s room and when you’ve got your name on the episode, how much of the episode did you actually write, and how much of it was like coming from the writer’s room and you just had like ultimate control?

I feel like this part came from the writer’s room ’cause the rest of the episode is sort of so good and so on theme. Um. That I’m gonna attribute, attribute that to Taylor, who is, um, named as the writer of this episode. And I feel like this was someone from the writer’s room did this part

Ellen: maybe? Yeah. Well this is one of the, uh, sort of the, the bits that I thought weren’t, didn’t match the rest of the episode at all. Yes. So, yeah, you got a point. Yes. Like it’s, it’s not anything to do with being lucky.

Bex: Well, she’s very unlucky.

Ellen: She, I mean, Chim tells her that she’s lucky that it has not damaged her heart and she doesn’t feel lucky. Yes. [00:49:00] But that’s the only bit of this whole thing that has anything to do with being lucky. So.

Bex: Well, I guess

Ellen: it’s strange

Bex: in the grand scheme of things. It’s like, uh, it’s the long game. ’cause a lot of this episode, um. We could probably go through this a little bit more at the end is about, is, is Bobby’s line, like, is it dumb luck or is it like a grander plan? And I feel like the jewels storyline is the kind of the grander plan part of things.

Yeah. Because it’s like Jules herself,

Ellen: it comes back later.

Bex: Um, it doesn’t, it’s like unlucky and it’s fine, but, but then you sort of see the butterfly effect of what happens, um, on the grander sort of episode scale.

Ellen: Yeah.

Bex: But yeah, I, I still, it doesn’t, it’s still not good. I still don’t like it. I still, uh, if I had to rewatch this episode again, I would be like, zoning out at this point or fast forwarding through.

Ellen: Oh, no, it was weird. I mean, Athena shows up [00:50:00] and she says, um, “ma’am, can you hear me?” And then Jules is trying to tell her about the sign, and then Athena’s like, “okay, try not to talk.” You know, it’s like you just asked her a question. Save your breath. Help is here. Um,

Bex: I mean, to be fair, I feel like Athena just wanted confirmation that she was conscious and that she could hear. She, yeah.

Ellen: Yeah. She’s like, okay, don’t tell me about it now. Uh, save your breath.

Bex: Yes, yes.

Ellen: Uh, but the 118 show up,

Bex: of course. ’cause they’re literally the only firehouse that’s working,

Alice: obviously.

Ellen: Like, I don’t know how she’s still alive with this. Like, it’s it’s really in her like just

Alice: Oh, the,

Ellen: vertically in her abdomen

Alice: like makeup prosthetic team did a great job on this.

Ellen: It’s disgusting. There’s a lot of blood. I mean, potentially not as much blood as there might be if this really happened, but, um, yeah. It’s gruesome.

Bex: Yes. [00:51:00] Um, so yes, Chim tell Chim and Hen are working on her, um, they tell her that she’s very lucky because despite the fact that she’s got a sign like halfway through her body, her pulse is still strong.

So her heart is still working. But they have an issue in that normally protocol is if you’ve been, uh, impaled with something, you leave set object in, um, and it gets removed in surgery. But because of how big it is, because of how the location and the fact that it’s very sharp, um, there is a risk that if they leave the sign in at, like, if they go over a bump in the road, it’s going to wobble the sign, it’s going to cause more damage.

So it’s like, do we try and pack the wound? And try and move her with that? But if we pull it out and um, it’s nicked an aorta, as soon as we remove the sign, she’s gonna bleed out on the street.

Ellen: She’s conscious enough to know that. [00:52:00]

Bex: Yes. Uh, so then they. Chim’s, um, plan is to pull the sign, uh, rig a makeshift tourniquet to try and stem any bleeding.

Um, keep pressure on the wound and just like go like a bat out of hell at the hospital. Um, Hen says, I’ve got a better idea. We’re gonna use a REBOA, which we’ve never heard of before. We will never hear of again. Um, and as far, as far as

Alice: specifically for this one emergency,

Bex: as far as my Googling, um, has informed me nobody actually uses them in the field because they are so specialized.

Um, there are some teams in the UK and in Europe that use them, but the teams that use them are like a doctor that goes out with paramedics, and it’s the doctor that uses them. And the doctor has been specifically trained. You don’t just hand them over to paramedics.

Ellen: Well, she, she like, that makes sense because it’s a, [00:53:00] it’s a tiny balloon in your artery. Like it sounds incredibly risky.

Bex: Yes.

Ellen: Um, but I mean, obviously it works, but

Bex: I mean, yeah, it’s, it is incredibly, um, if it, if you use it correctly in, in specific situations, it’s incredibly effective. It’s just, I feel like someone was Googling shit and they got, um, a result and like, oh, hey, that’d be cool.

Let’s mention that in the next episode. Or like, one of the companies has gone, Hey, we’re trying to get more, um, more governments to like, invest in our products. Can we get you to like, name drop it on the show so that people will think that it’s what paramedics actually use? I don’t know, it’s just, um, yeah, it, it, LAFD definitely does not use it.

Ellen: Mm-hmm.

Bex: But it, it works.

Ellen: Yeah. They nearly, they nearly lose it, but they,

Bex: they do. Um, but Hen gets it like a little jab. [00:54:00] Hen gets the chance to do a little jab at Chim because, um, obviously Chim’s been away for six months. He didn’t realize that they’ve been trained in REBOA kits and she tells him that that’s what happens when you disappear for months on end.

And Chim’s like,

Ellen: damn, Hen.

Bex: Oh, touche. Okay, so Hen has forgiven but has not forgotten, but it works. Um, but can see Yank the sign. Yeah, they yank the sign out, um, pressure stabilizers, she’s not bleeding out in the street. They’re able to get her onto the gurney, to the ambulance to take her to hospital. Um, and that leaves Bobby and Athena to investigate the scene.

Um, and specifically talking, specifically looking at, um, the stop sign that has been just Ted onto the road. Which apparently

Ellen: it’s still covered in blood.

Bex: has a barcode. It’s still [00:55:00] covered in her blood.

Alice: It’s still covered in blood, yeah.

Bex: But yeah, apparently they, these stop signs come with barcodes and they also get labeled where they were erected so they know exactly where that sign came from.

Alice: I feel like I need to go check some signs now just to

Ellen: what? To see if they’ve got their location written on it.

Alice: Yeah. To see if they’re labeled. Yeah.

Ellen: I mean they probably do have some kind of identifying barcode or something on it because they, because I know the councils keeper an an inventory of all of their signs and every bit of infrastructure.

Bex: But do you think Yeah. Yeah. But inventory. But would they have inventoried that not just, we’ve got 120 stop signs, but this specific stop sign is stop sign number, like 75, and it has been assigned to this street corner.

Ellen: Maybe it depends how often they get stolen. I don’t know.

Bex: Very true. It must happen quite a bit in LA ’cause [00:56:00] that’s exactly what has happened with this one. Um, Athena goes to the, uh, the location where the sign is barcoded to have been from, um, and discovers that it has been literally been cut off the pole.

Ellen: Yeah. Someone stole it. The, the LAPD guy who’s there is like, “Who steals a stop sign?” And Athena’s like “Idiots. That’s who.” She’s so cross. This is such a silly emergency. The whole thing. But anyway, that’s the end of that part of it. That’s the end of stop sign part one.

Bex: Yeah. Uh, we’re gonna do a, a quick segue to the Diaz restaurant. And I am actually saying restaurant because Eddie is cooking. Or if he’s chopping vegetables for a salad, I guess. And empathetic little Chris. ’cause this Christopher, not during Christopher, this Christopher actually does care about his father. Um, yeah. Asks if Eddie is okay and he [00:57:00] notes that, um, Eddie seems sad.

Ellen: Yeah.

Bex: So Eddie is trying to explain to him that like, therapy is hard and sometimes therapy can mean talking about things that are scary and sad and, and that can be like really exhausting. But it’s a good thing and he’s gonna keep doing it and eventually he will stop being sad and he’ll start feeling better.

Alice: Like Chris has been to therapy, surely they’ve happened anyway.

Bex: I think so. But I have a feeling that, uh, Chris’s therapy is a lot different from Eddie’s therapy. And also the things that Chris talks about is sort of. Different from what Eddie talks about. Like Chris’s trauma was Chris not normal, is not Eddie’s trauma.

Like Chris is just sort of talking about his feelings about like how he feels about, um, his mother dying and probably about the, um, the tsunami not, you know, the fact that he was in a helicopter that crashed in his entire unit, has, you know, since [00:58:00] died.

Ellen: Between them, they’ve been through a lot.

Bex: Yeah, they have.

Um, but then Chris asks is if the things that Eddie’s talking about, the things that makes him sad is Chris one of them.

Ellen: Oh, Chris. And, um, Eddie does tell him that he, it’s never him, but then we get another little detour to the, uh, a doctor’s office where Maddie has got Jee there. And, uh, somehow the doctors are still open.

They must be like a, a, you know, emergency, urgent care type place because they’re still open even though it’s nighttime.

Bex: Yeah. I dunno, it, it is late and she does acknowledge that it’s late, um, because she thanks the doctor for seeing them so late. Um, but Jee is not doing well.

Ellen: No, she’s crying a lot.

Bex: She’s crying. Maddie [00:59:00] says that she’s been really tired. She hasn’t eaten. She has a fever, um, limited bowel movement. Um, and when the doctor starts examining Jee’s like checking her belly and she starts sort of screaming louder and Maddie’s like trying to downplay it. And she’s like, it’s, it’s okay. He’s just, you know, he wants to make sure you’re okay.

And the doctor’s like, “you need to get her to the emergency room now.”

Ellen: Yeah. That’s not what you wanna hear.

Alice: No.

Bex: No.

Ellen: How terrifying.

Bex: Like there’s, there’s, there’s no sort of easing her into it either. It’s like she needs to be in surgery stat, sort of

Alice: Yeah.

Bex: Level of, yeah.

Alice: Like she’s, she’s going to the emergency room going,

Ellen: this is an emergency.

Bex: Yeah. And the next thing we see is Chim just sprinting into the hospital. Um, because obviously Maddie has called him.

Ellen: Yeah. What do you think is going through Chim’s mind? Because last, in the last episode, he was afraid to like, leave Maddie with Jee,

Alice: I know, he was so anxious about leaving them. And now, um,

Bex: he’s like, I [01:00:00] leave her with her mother and I’ve like, I’ve, I’ve been telling everyone, I’ve been telling myself that it’s fine. Maddie’s fine, and then all of a sudden she’s in the hospital?

Ellen: Yeah. Poor Chim.

Bex: Uh, but Maddie is. Been sitting by the door waiting for him, like she’s not around in the normal waiting area. She’s been sitting by the door waiting for Chim to come in and immediately grabs him when she sees him sprinting in.

And um, she tells him that the doctors think that it’s blockage in the intestines. And the bad thing about having parents who are in the medical field is they immediately start going through all the possible causes without having to resort to Google. Like I’d be starting to Google this shit. Chim knows it off the top of his head.

Alice: Yeah, so Maddie. So they actually think, they think that it’s intussusception, which is basically when the intestines like fold back into themselves, um, which can cause a blockage. Um, if they stay folded in on themselves long enough, parts of the intestines [01:01:00] can start dying off.

Bex: Yes. It doesn’t get blood flow.

Ellen: Okay.

Alice: Because yeah, there’s no blood flow. Um, and obviously blockages also aren’t good. Um, I can’t remember when I originally watched this episode, but. My brother’s puppy who just turned two, um, he at seven weeks old had intussusception.

Ellen: Oh.

Alice: And so, like, I know what it is now, but I’m like, I don’t remember if he’d had like, I don’t remember if we knew before I watched this or not. ’cause it was two years ago and I’m like, did I watch this? Like had I watched this two years ago? Um, but yeah, he um, ripped up a ripped, ripped up a bit of fake grass and ate it and the like, ’cause it was a long plastic bit of string basically.

Ellen: Oh.

Alice: It tangled around his intestines, which caused it to fold back on itself. Um, so I believe they had to like cut out, cut out a bit of the intestines and stick it back together.

Ellen: Oh my god.

Alice: Yeah.

Ellen: But he’s okay now? [01:02:00]

Alice: Oh yeah. He’s fine now. Like this was when he was seven weeks old. He’s now, um, he’s now two and is a little champ. Like he just got his novice sprint dog title. So cute. Um,

Ellen: well that’s a happy ending.

Alice: Yeah, that’s it. So he’s fine now, but um, but yeah, it was scary for a bit there ’cause he was just a little, little tacker, just a little giant puppy at seven weeks. He probably weighed more than Hudson now, but, you know,

Bex: um, I don’t think Jee has been eating fake grass.

Alice: I don’t know.

Ellen: You can’t really ever tell with kids, right? With babies,

Alice: yeah.

Ellen: They put all sorts of crap in their mouths, but anyway, especially once they start crawling,

Alice: but yeah, so they start going through, um, theories on underlying causes, which as we said, like, is awful for medical professionals because you think of everything.

Bex: Yeah.

Alice: So Maddie says viral infection. She’s too young for appendicitis. Chim says it could be autoimmune. Um, celiac or Crohn’s, not gonna stare at [01:03:00] Bex too long there. Um, and then Maddie says a tumor, like it’s a possibility right? And Chim goes, “yeah, none of the above is also one of the possibilities. Sometimes kids just get it, no one knows why. Um, might be family history,” and Maddie goes, yeah, leukemia is in my family history. So she’s like, Maddie’s spiraling and feeling so guilty.

Ellen: Yeah, she’s jumped to the worst conclusion,

Bex: but like,

Ellen: which is what you do, like if there’s something wrong with

Bex: cancer is also on Chim’s side of the family.

Alice: Yeah. Isn’t that what his mom died from? Yeah. Yeah. Like they don’t mention that at all.

Bex: No, they, they, they allow Maddie to like spiral into thinking. ’cause there’s a little bit, um, later on where Maddie’s like, you know, I’ve passed on terrible genetics. Um, I feel like Chim should be going well yeah, I’ve got cancer on my side of the family too.

Alice: Yeah, Chim’s like, my genetics are fine. I don’t know what

Bex: you’re,

Alice: this is clearly your fault, Maddie.

Bex: Jee’s fucked. She’s got leukemia and cancer [01:04:00] on both sides of the family.

Uh, but yeah, so we are going to leave Maddie in her like spiral that once again she has caused harm to Jee Yun just simply by passing down her genetics. Um, and we are going to return to the 118 where Lucy is kind of wallowing in her self pity watching her, uh, rescue of Bailey, uh, on her iPad over and over and over and over again.

Ellen: Yeah,

Bex: she does look up though when Buck starts walking over and Buck’s like head down in his phone frantically texting. ’cause I’m guessing that, uh, we saw Chim running into the hospital still in his LAFD duty uniform, so I’m guessing he’s left work and just like vamoosed straight out of the station to the hospital.

So they’re all very aware of what’s going on with Maddie and Jee. Um mm-hmm. Because Lucy immediately asks Buck if there’s any news, [01:05:00]

Ellen: but Buck sees that she’s looking at, um, the, the catch over and over again. So he says, “oh, awesome catch.” And then he tells her that quite gently, which is quite, is nice of him. But he is like, “I say this with some experience here, maybe don’t let it go to your head.”

Bex: Yeah, he’s completely misinterpreted why she’s watching it over and over again.

Ellen: That’s right. She’s like, no, no, no. I. I’m trying to figure out how I could have saved her in a way that doesn’t involve luck, so that I’m ready for next time.

Bex: Yeah. And then we get like the actual callback to the county fair Spider-Man, because Buck brings it up. He says like his first year here, um, as in the 118, um, he didn’t get to a guy hanging from a rollercoaster in time and he felt, um, and Lucy’s like, “yeah, I remember that.” And, uh,

Ellen: everyone knows [01:06:00] about that one.

Bex: Everyone knows about that one. You were all over the news buddy. Um, and Buck says that he spent a lot of time running that one back through his mind, um, to, you know, try to work out what he could have done better. And he didn’t have any epiphanies. The only thing that he realized was that it didn’t matter what brilliant hypothetical situations didn’t matter what brilliant hypothetical scenario he could come up with.

The dude was still gonna be dead. And Lucy has to accept that it doesn’t matter what kind of scenario she comes up with, Bailey is still gonna be alive because she caught her.

Ellen: Yeah. So stop worrying about the past and move on.

Bex: Yes.

Ellen: To the next,

Bex: or as Lucy says, “accept the lucky break and move on?” And Buck’s like, “well, your luck could change tomorrow. So like, this is a win. Take it as a win.”

Ellen: Yeah.

Bex: And it’s, it’s a, it’s a nice scene considering in the last episode, but could barely look at her and was like recoiling away from [01:07:00] her at every moment. Um, and was being super polite and super standoffish. It’s nice that either the writers forgot that Buck was trying to keep his distance from Lucy.

Um, or perhaps now that he has confessed to Taylor, um, he feels a little bit more secure talking to, to Lucy, I don’t know. But it’s nice that they

Ellen: and also

Bex: gotten over themselves.

Ellen: I, I’d forgotten about this earlier, but when she was talking to um, Monday, um, what’s the guy’s name?

Alice: Jonah.

Bex: Jonah.

Ellen: Jonah, yeah. Yeah. I’m doing a Hen here and just calling him Monday. Um, when she was talking to him, he mentioned that, that, uh, like the last time she did something heroic, she was in the bar like having a great time and she’s like, she says, “oh yeah, I was really drunk that night, hey.” And I’m like, oh, do you not remember what happened or like, are you just not mentioning it to Jonah?

’cause she hasn’t mentioned anything about it to, to Buck. So, and I’m like,

Alice: no, she’s just pretending it didn’t [01:08:00] happen. She’s a professional. It’s fine.

Bex: Yeah. That was like, they were off duty. She has no idea that he has a boy. Try and say that again.

Ellen: Not yet.

Alice: Projecting there. Um,

Bex: she has no idea that he has a girlfriend. Uh, wow. That sounds weird to say. Um, so she doesn’t think that they did anything wrong as I think as far as Lucy’s concerned. It’s just, you know, two coworkers who hooked up. Um, but you know, it was a one I thing now they’ve gotta be professional.

Ellen: You didn’t hook up. Yeah.

Bex: Not fully hook up, but you know, like, you know what I mean?

Alice: Yeah.

Bex: Um, so they, uh, their little conversation gets interrupted because they get called out on a call. Um, so they run off, um, Buck telling her before he leaves that luck or not. It was a great save, and Lucy looks a little bit better. Like she feels, looks like she feels a little bit better about it, [01:09:00] um, where she sort of runs off to join the rest of the crew and while they go off to whatever emergency they’re gonna go off to, we are gonna go back to the hospital with Chim and Maddie where this is the scene where Chim is just like, yeah, your genetics are fucked up but I’m fine. I think it’s fine.

Because Maddie is nervous as hell. Like she’s jittery, she’s like her leg shaking. Um, and Chim tells her that she needs to stop sort of spiraling. He tells her just to stop what you’re doing. She’s like, “I’m not doing anything.” And he reiterates that it’s not her fault.

And Maddie’s like, “we don’t even know what it is. So like we can’t know that it’s my fault ’cause we don’t know what it is.” And Chim’s like, “well, even if it is, um, no, no matter what it is, it’s not your fault. Even if it is the exact same kind of cancer that Daniel had, it’s still not your fault.” And this is Maddie’s part where she’s wondering whether it was [01:10:00] selfish or reckless to have a baby with that family history.

And then Chim’s going, well, your parents had three kids. Two of them are fine. Nothing about his side of the family.

Ellen: Yeah. He just, I feel like maybe the writers just forgot that he also has that.

Bex: I, I wonder 100% agree that they forgot that they killed off Chim’s mother with cancer or maybe hers was like a super specific sort of situational kind of cancer, not sort of leukemia.

Alice: Maybe it was ovarian that doesn’t affect children or something. Who knows?

Bex: I feel like cancer is just cancer though. Like if you’re, if you’ve got the genetics that your body is predisposed to grow these like cancerous tumors, it’ll grow anywhere. I might be wrong in that maybe I’m not a doctor. I don’t even play one on tv.

Alice: Well, some, some are like prompted specifically by hormones and stuff, so. Mm.

Bex: But yes, Chim needs to be taking a little bit of the blame if they’re gonna be going down there, like genetic, it’s genetics. [01:11:00] Um,

Ellen: yeah.

Bex: It turns out that like he has his own kind of guilt when it comes to things that have happened to Jee because he confesses to Maddie that he slammed her hand in a car door.

Alice: Yeah. He literally, he’s just like, I slammed, slammed a car door in her hand, and Maddie’s like, what the fuck?

Ellen: Yeah, we didn’t see that one.

Bex: No, they were,

Alice: so the, the possum just started throwing a fucking party in my roof. And so Autumn’s coming in, barking right in my ear.

Bex: Oh.

Alice: Like the puppy had just fallen asleep. And I was like, cool, I can contribute again. And now the fucking possum,

Bex: the possum also has thoughts about Chimney’s behavior. When it comes to

Alice: apparently.

Bex: it comes to this, um, yes. So apparently they were somewhere around Toledo. Chim had unbuckled Jee from the car to, to get them out. Um, he went back to the car to get a jacket, grabbed the jacket, slammed the door.

He didn’t realize that, um, [01:12:00] Jee had got out of her car seat and her hand was in the doorframe and he slammed the door on her hand and she screamed bloody murder as she would.

Alice: Yeah,

Bex: because that would’ve hurt.

Alice: I shut a door on my brother’s fingers once repeatedly actually.

Ellen: Oh, ouch.

Alice: Couldn’t work out why it wasn’t shutting. Yeah. Kept going.

Ellen: Ouch.

Bex: Yeah, I slammed a door on my little brother’s fingers too.

Alice: I, um, was also

Bex: just once though, but it was really hard.

Alice: Oh, I was, um, I was leaning against the car door once talking to Mum, and she shut the door and it like pinched my shoulder in the thing and she couldn’t work out why I was screaming because she was inside the car and I was outside so she couldn’t hear me properly. And I was like, just open the fucking door.

Bex: Um, but the, the point is that like Chim is sharing the story because Maddie then [01:13:00] asks like, “how long did you beat yourself up for the fact that you hurt Jee or that you were the cause of Jee’s pain?” And Chim’s like, “yeah, I’ll let you know when I stop.”

Alice: Yeah.

Bex: Um,

Alice: oh dear.

Bex: Talk and segueing to continuing to beat yourself up about things that were not your fault.

Um, we go to therapy with Frank, um, and it’s Eddie’s therapy session where Frank is really interrogating Eddie on his perception and feeling. And the way he is thinking about the helicopter crash, because Eddie obviously is retelling the story possibly again, God knows how many times he’s told this story and Frank starts pulling it apart.

It’s like, so, um, “but you said by the time you saw the RPG coming it was too late. Um, did you have the same vantage point as Mills?” Eddie’s like, “no.” “Did you have a clearer view out the window than Mills?” “No, I was trying to save Greggs.” [01:14:00] “Right. So Mills couldn’t, Mills had a better view and you couldn’t see because you were trying to help an injured man.”

And Eddie’s like, “yeah, but like, it doesn’t matter. He died anyway.” And the point that Frank is trying to get to, um, like Eddie keeps beating himself up because he couldn’t save the helicopter from going down. He couldn’t stop the RPG from hitting and Frank’s going, “but you couldn’t see the RPG. And the only way you could have seen the RPG is if you weren’t doing your job, which was to try and help the injured man.”

“So why is it your fault?

Ellen: It’s not

Bex: your fault.

the helicopter went down if you were doing your job, and your job is not to see hostiles on the ground, look for incoming missiles, try and save the helicopter. You were doing your job and the helicopter come down. It is not, why is it your fault, therefore that the helicopter went down if it was not your job?”

Ellen: Yeah. And then Eddie gets this look on his face, like that woman in that gif with the little graphs and stuff going by. Like, he’s [01:15:00] like,

Bex: you can, you can see the wheels turning. Like he’s trying to make sense of it. Like he recognizes that what Frank is saying is true, but he just doesn’t feel it yet.

Ellen: Yeah.

Bex: So then he comes home. Buck has been watching Christopher. Um. It, it’s so domestic.

Ellen: It’s extremely domestic. I’m like, oh, this is such a nice Buddie scene.

Bex: It’s so cute.

Ellen: Especially because he’s been helping with the homework.

Bex: Yeah. So Buck is, Buck is clearing like the kitchen table of the homework supplies, so he’s sort of packing pencils up into a box.

Um, and Eddie’s just kind of slumps down on a chair at the table and starts talking to Buck about like how therapy went. Um, and Buck’s making no, um, no sign of leaving. It’s not like, okay, cool, you’re here. I’m tapping out. Um, I’m gonna go home now. It’s very much. Mm-hmm. He’s been at home looking after the kid and now his husband is [01:16:00] home, so now it’s their turn to catch up.

Ellen: Yep.

Bex: So apparently Buck was helping Chris with his homework at the table. Chris has now taken his homework into his room to finish it, but he’s left um, parts of it on the table and Eddie kind of grabs two pieces of paper to sort of examine what they’ve been doing. One of the pieces is a not bad anatomical drawing of a heart with all of the different parts of the heart labeled.

Um, the other one is a heart that looks like it’s drawn like a sun. It’s like, it’s the love heart, but it’s got a face with a little love heart as a nose and like little waves coming off at like, its sunbeams,

Ellen: it’s adorable.

Alice: It’s so cute.

Bex: And, and like Eddie’s looking at the two of them and he holds up the, the Sun heart one.

And he goes like, “Chris drew this?” And Buck gets this embarrassed look on his face. And he goes, “um, no, that one’s [01:17:00] mine. I misunderstood the assignment,”

which was obviously like, “draw a heart”, so he drew a heart!

Alice: Yeah, draw a heart. Chris is drawing this like anatomically correct one ’cause it’s for science class and Buck is like la la la la la every day.

Ellen: Yeah. And I’m totally not thinking of your dad while I draw this little heart.

Eddie just kind of looks kind of fond. He doesn’t say anything about that.

Bex: I, I really enjoy sort of little fanfic, um, that are sort of set post this episode where Eddie keeps that and puts it on his fridge.

Alice: Yeah.

Bex: Aw. And you’ll have like, Buck will come over it and there’ll be his heart like just pinned to the fridge with all the other bits of artwork and photos that Eddie’s saved.

Ellen: Oh, super cute.

Bex: We then get a, Eddie gets a little bit like philosophical, um, because he [01:18:00] asks Buck if, um, Buck ever thinks that what they do is worth it or not. Well, actually he says maybe what they do. Um, it’s not worth it. You know what he, he says what we do for a living that makes us need the therapy, what he put himself through, what he puts Christopher through by virtue of his job.

Um, maybe it’s nothing about the greater good. Maybe it’s all just random. And if that is the case, then what is the point? Is it even worth doing it?

Alice: Yeah. Therapy really cracked him open this week.

Ellen: Yeah. Now we’re getting into the fate kind of

Bex: Yes.

Ellen: Discussions.

Bex: Yeah. Which like, kind like I said, it kind of segues into what they’re doing with the, the dumb luck kind of storyline, but it’s also, it’s very own, um, kind of fate because yeah, he’s, at least, he’s actually thinking about what Frank said.

[01:19:00] He’s taken completely the wrong message, but at least he’s thinking about it. Just like Frank is saying, you know,

Ellen: it’s like nothing I could have done would’ve changed the outcome, so what’s the point in doing any of it.

Bex: Yes, exactly. And Frank, if Frank was listening to this and going, God damn it, Eddie, that’s not what I meant

Alice: Eddie, no. Sprays with water.

Ellen: That’s not what I said. Yeah.

Bex: So now we’re gonna go back to the hospital, um, where it’s days later, like I swear it is days later, channel eight are still playing the footage of Lucy catching Bailey over and over and over again.

Ellen: Yeah. It is slow motion.

Bex: Like has nothing else happened in LA that they, and like the reporters going, in case you missed it like three days ago, what?

Ellen: Maybe it was only yesterday. It’s been They’ve had at least one shift since.

Bex: Yeah.

Ellen: That actually happened [01:20:00] like a break.

Bex: Okay. Maybe, yeah, it’s definitely,

Ellen: maybe it’s a few days,

Bex: maybe. Alright. Maybe not three days. But it’s definitely not like this is breaking news. And this just happened. Lucy’s gone off shift at some point, at least for 24 hours.

Ellen: Yeah. But now it’s Maddie watching it saying that she can’t believe it happened.

Bex: Yes. And Chim’s like, “Yeah, I was standing right next to Lucy. I still don’t know how she did it.” Um, Maddie says, “Well, it’s enough to make you believe in actual miracles.” And at that point the doctor comes out.

Ellen: Mm-hmm.

Bex: And it’s, as the doctor sort of approaches and is asking for, um, Buckley, Han, they immediately just grab hands and hold hands.

Alice: Yeah.

Bex: It’s, it’s unconscious. I don’t even think they know that they’re doing it.

Alice: No.

Bex: And the good news is that it was just intussusception and it’s resolved [01:21:00] itself. They did some kind of scopey thing and putting the scope in has, uh, has pushed the intestine back where it’s supposed to be.

Ellen: Yeah. And they don’t, she doesn’t need surgery,

Bex: Nope.

Alice: Yeah.

Ellen: So she’s fine.

Bex: They just need to make sure she, she doesn’t have a reaction to the barium that they used for the screening. Um, otherwise she can go home and Chim is like falling over himself trying to thank the doctor. And the doctor’s like, “Well, we should thank Maddie too, because, um, if they hadn’t caught it so early, they might not have been so lucky.”

So lucky Maddie brought her in when she did it.

Ellen: Yeah.

Bex: And then the doctor leaves, and, um, Maddie and Chim realize that they’re still holding hands, and they’re like, Ew, no.

Alice: Awkwardly let go.

Bex: Awkward.

Ellen: Oh just kiss and get it over with again. All right. Time for stop sign part two.

Bex: [01:22:00] Yeah.

Ellen: So we find out who’s responsible for the stop sign stealing. Um,

Bex: apparently it’s part of a scavenger hunt.

Ellen: Yeah. And they, they assumed that someone else had stolen the other stop sign from the truck. Um, yes. They have no idea that it nearly killed somebody.

Bex: Does that mean they were the ones driving?

Ellen: I guess so. I don’t know how old these people are.

Alice: Yeah, they didn’t seem like the type to have the weird loaded, like the weird truck, but Sure.

Bex: Yeah.

Ellen: Maybe it was the, the, their parents’ parents’ truck.

Bex: I, I don’t know. But anyway, they are down one stop sign, so they need another one so that they can win the scavenge hunt.

It is their bad luck that the stop sign that they happen to be stealing is on the street that Athena is patrolling. Um, and she sort of rolls down the street, literally watching them cut the sign off the pole, and she’s like all these fucking [01:23:00] idiots and chirps her sirens just to let them know that yes, she has seen them and they should probably stop what they’re doing, which makes the boys panic and makes them run.

And one of them, uh, runs out into the street, which no longer has a stop sign on that particular intersection, and he gets flattened by a car. Um. Which we are meant to believe is because the guy didn’t see the stop sign. I have a feeling it’s more that this kid bolted out from behind a parked car.

Ellen: Yeah. I don’t think that would’ve helped.

Alice: Like, I don’t think the stop sign…

Bex: or not doesn’t matter if there was…

Ellen: the stop sign doesn’t stop…

Bex: a stop sign there.

Ellen: For pedestrians who are running out into the road. It’s to stop,

Yeah, a stop sign is not gonna give you visibility over pedestrians, bolting into the street. Um, but that’s, that’s not the story that they wanna tell here.

Bex: The story that they’re telling is that this guy hit the kid because he, there was no stop sign telling him to slow down, which, okay, whatever. The [01:24:00] driver is a good driver in this situation, in that, um, he immediately like, stops his car, gets out, comes over to see what he can do for help. And Athena sends him to grab the first aid kid from her car.

Uh, ’cause this kid Trevor, he’s not in good shape. He. He’s, um,

Alice: oh, he’s in real bad shape.

Ellen: Yeah.

Bex: There’s like an obvious compound fract or open fracture on his leg. Um, but yeah,

Ellen: he’s got blood pumping out of it, like there’s a lot of blood.

Bex: Yeah. But there’s also, um, he starts like choking up blood, so there’s internal injuries going on there too.

Alice: Yeah.

Bex: Um, and she also wrangles his, um, accomplice into try and help stabilize him until the 118 can get there. And even as they’re like applying pressure and trying to keep this kid stable, she’s interrogating the kid. She’s like, “why did you run?” And he’s like, “you were gonna arrest us!”

And Athena’s like “It was a misdemeanor. [01:25:00] You’re gonna die over a misdemeanor?” At which point Trevor starts choking on his own own blood and they have to, uh. Athena has to like, use her hands as a C-collar and stabilize his head and neck so they can roll him onto his side so he doesn’t continue to choke on his own blood.

Ellen: Oh, it’s very tense.

Bex: It’s very tense. And she’s like continually talking to Trevor, um, trying to make sure that he, uh, he’s gonna be okay, letting him know that she’s there. And she almost refuses to let paramedics sort of step in until she realizes that it’s Hen. And so Hen and Buck and Lucy, uh, swoop in and start taking care of Trevor. And so Athena sort of backs away.

And as, uh, “Karma Police”, or a cover of “Karma Police” starts playing.

Ellen: Oh my God,

Bex: we get like a really slow motion. Um, Athena looking around, taking it all in.

Ellen: It’s like, yes, this is instant karma [01:26:00] for stealing stop signs. Like, oh yeah, the music person had a great time with this, this episode.

Bex: They didn’t, I think they spent all their money on everything else, so they couldn’t actually get Radiohead. Um, so they had to go with a cover. But

Ellen: yeah,

Bex: it doesn’t really matter. A the impact is the same.

Ellen: Yeah.

Bex: So we’re watching, like the 118 are holding back. The other members of the 118 are holding back the kid’s friend who is like freaking out. Um, the driver is in tears as like a paramedic tries to check him out.

Um, and then if we get a very, very long lingering shot of a shoe in the street. The implication being that it’s one of Trevor’s shoes that like got knocked off him when…

Alice: yeah. Remember remember a couple episodes ago when I was talking about how you get knocked out of your shoe when you get by a car? I told you it’s a thing.[01:27:00]

Ellen: I remembered you saying that. I was like, oh, she was right. You did get knocked out of his shoes.

Bex: Just one shoe though, apparently.

Alice: Apparently just one in this case. Yeah.

Bex: Yes.

Ellen: He mustn’t have tied the laces up. Uh, Athena is visibly like harrowed by this. She’s, Bobby comes over and is like, Athena, Athena, are you all right? She’s like, yeah, I’m fine.

Alice: Yeah, her hands are shaking. She’s covered in blood. Athena says it’s just adrenaline. And Bobby’s like, “are you sure?” And Athena goes, “yeah, he’s just a kid. A dumb, stupid kid.” But they get him into the ambulance. He’s definitely gonna need surgery. So they’re calling the ER. Bobby does a quick, like one more check on Athena and then has to, you know, go do his job

Bex: and Athena has to get back to hers, which includes grabbing her first aid kid and then yelling at Trevor’s friend.

Alice: Yeah. Which, like the kid’s [01:28:00] handcuffed. Um, ’cause there is another officer on scene as well.

Bex: Yeah.

Alice: Um, so the kid’s been, I assume the kid’s been handcuffed because of the sign stealing?

Bex: I don’t know, but it’s, I, he’s standing there with both hands in front of his body with his, like, holding his wrists really close together. And it feels like he’s been handcuffed, but I couldn’t actually see.

Alice: No, he definitely was. ’cause I was watching on my TV and

Bex: yeah,

Alice: he was handcuffed.

Bex: Okay, so he was handcuffed. Yeah. I’m gonna assume that it, it’s because like they stole the stop sign, which led to the guy hitting Trevor. So there’s gonna be some kind of charges involved,

Alice: but yeah. Athena goes over to yell at him. Um, yes. The kids like, “oh, we were just collecting stop signs for the scavenger hunt. We were just having fun.”

And Athena’s like “fun? Your stolen signs injured a cyclist, nearly punctured her artery. She barely made in the hospital. Now your friends gonna die.” The kid’s like, I don’t what the fuck is going on.

Ellen: Yeah. Yeah. She mad.

Alice: Um,

Bex: she’s mad, [01:29:00] she big mad

Alice: and she’s like, and yeah, the kid’s like, “I’m so sorry. We were just being…” and Athena’s like, “you are reckless just because you are young. You think you’re invincible ’cause you’re not.” Yeah. Athena goes off on this kid and the kid’s just like, what the fuck is going on?

Bex: Like at this point you’re cyclist. What, what does, what does this have to do with like the, the storyline that they’re trying to tell? Like, where is this going? Um, and we kind of get a clue because where it’s going, because the kid asks, is Trevor gonna be okay?

And Athena’s just like it is out of our hands. So it’s, it’s either luck or divine intervention now as to what happens to him.

Ellen: Mm-hmm.

Bex: Um, what happens to him is he gets taken to hospital and, uh, for some reason at this particular hospital, it must not be like Presbyterian or whatever hospital is they normally go to because the surgeon has come out to the parking lot to meet.

Alice: Yeah. I don’t, I don’t know why this is a thing, but, [01:30:00] um, also they, they mentioned that it’s a 17-year-old male struck by motor vehicle at high rate of speed. Like it was the suburbs that he got hit. Like how fucking fast was the driver going? I didn’t see a stop sign. So? You’re still not supposed to be going fucking 80 in a suburban street.

Bex: I say. Yeah. So Hen is giving handover to the surgeon who has come out to the parking lot to like meet them specifically. Um, and Lucy does a double take because the surgeon is Bailey, the woman that they rescued from the penthouse earlier in the episode.

Alice: And finally it’s an episode where it’s actually realistic for her to know what Bailey looks like because she’s been doing nothing but watching the videos nonstop.

Bex: Yes. It’s not, and it’s only been like a day

Alice: Not like when Buck’s like, oh, don’t we know you from like eight years ago? And it’s like, how the fuck do you remember? I don’t remember the customers I served yesterday. Like what? Um, but yeah, this one is really because yeah, Lucy has been doing nothing but watching videos of her

Bex: watching this and it’s probably [01:31:00] see it into her brain as well. Um,

Alice: yeah,

Bex: so, and Bailey also does a bit of a double take and she sends Trevor on his gurney into the hospital with the nurse and lingers for a moment and looks at Lucy and Hen and she’s like, I know you, I know both of you. Um, and Lucy like, yeah,

Ellen: it’s not seared into your brain as well. They’re even wearing their uniforms.

Bex: To be fair, she probably just remembers that she got caught and rescued and she doesn’t actually remember the faces of the rescuers. Just that she got rescued. Um,

Alice: yeah, like she was, it was a high adrenaline sort of thing.

Bex: Yeah.

Alice: And like she’d see paramedics and stuff all the time as well, if she’s the trauma surgeons that meets them in the, the car park, apparently. So,

Ellen: yeah.

Bex: Um, Lucy simply says, “it’s good to see you on your feet this time.” Yeah. Bailey’s like, oh, that’s who you are. Cool. Great to see you again. I’m, I’m gonna go work on this kid now. Um,

Alice: I’m gonna do [01:32:00] my job.

Bex: And as she walks off, Hen like, just in case anybody in the audience hasn’t figured it out, says, “Oh, she’s the trauma surgeon.” And Lucy’s like, “Yeah, talk about your dumb luck.” Take a shot everybody

Alice: Take the drink.

Ellen: Drink.

Bex: Uh, so a few moments later, we are back in the station house, um, and it’s lunchtime, Bobby’s making lunch. Um, he must have like hightailed it back from the scene to cook lunch and it’s, he’s got it on the table ready just as Lucy and him get back to the station. Um, and they,

Ellen: well, they’re all, they’re, they’re like burritos wrapped up in foils, so he could have even picked them up from a place on the way back to the station or something. They look like they’ve been pre-prepared.

Bex: You don’t think that Bobby Nash would know how to prepare and properly professionally wrap burritos? [01:33:00]

Alice: Yeah, but you, they’ve been busy.

Ellen: You don’t have to, you don’t have to wrap them on foil. If you’re making them fresh, you just wrap up a, a tortilla and then eat it

Bex: and then you, I feel like that he, like, he got them out of the freezer, like they’re freezer burritos that he’s like brought out and he’s reheated.

Alice: I’m just laughing at Bex’s notes about Buck’s fireproof hands.

Bex: Okay. No, no, no. So, so like Lucy and, uh, Lucy and Hen come back, they’re filling Bobby and Buck who arrives in the kitchen about the fact that the trauma surgeon who’s working on the kid is the same woman that they saved. So Bobby, we see Bobby take the tray with the burritos, which are fully wrapped in foil out of the oven, like he’s got oven gloves on and he’s put them on like heat proof plates.

Buck walks over, grabs two burritos, like one in each hand and if, and just continues to stand there holding them. Like there’s no sort of jostling, there’s no moving them around in his hand because shit, those things are hot. He’s just holding onto them.

Yeah. And I’m looking his hands going, [01:34:00] dude, aren’t they burning your hands? You have some sort of fireproof hands at one point because Hen has grabbed one as well, but she’s put it on the county in front of her and she hasn’t touched it. Um, so she’s let it cool off a little bit Buck’s just absorbing the heat from the burrito into his palms.

Which tells me that they,

Alice: I mean, he’s a firefighter, it’s fine.

Bex: It’s just that they’ve seen that they’re on the oven tray and he’s just like, okay, cool. The, the act like the blocking is you are going to take them off the tray because you’re gonna go eat them, and nobody has put two and two together and like, guys they’re just outta the oven be,

Ellen: They’re supposed to be hot.

Bex: Really hot.

Alice: It was the, it’s the same, um, same scene director who, um, who was just like, yes, women don’t take their high heels off until they’re well into the house.

Ellen: Maybe they hadn’t been in the oven for long enough to actually get really, really hot.

Bex: It’s, it’s coffee cup acting except it’s now hot burrito acting.

Alice: Hot burrito acting. [01:35:00] I don’t remember what I was watching the other day that wanted, like, I was actually yelling at the TV and I cannot remember what it was. It was so bad. Like it was so obviously not, like there was so obviously nothing in the cup and I was like, oh my fucking God. Like at least pretend.

Bex: Just, yeah. I, I don’t, I, yeah. So like burrito acting, like, do you have enough

Alice: burrito acting?

Bex: Do you, do you think deeply enough about your scene that you will recognize that it should be hot and therefore you will be acting like the burrito is hot? Um, anyway, that, like, that’s not the point of the scene, but it was the, my point of the scene, um, the point of the scene is that, um, Bobby takes the news that the person that they saved is now the trauma surgeon.

Um, and offers the philosophical question of who knows how many people Lucy actually saved by saving Bailey.

Alice: Oh [01:36:00] my God. It was The Proposal. Um, it was The Proposal we were watching because, um, Ryan Reynolds had both the coffee cups in one hand and it was so obvious that there was nothing in it because like the weight wasn’t shifting or anything.

’cause you can’t hold two Co. Like, doesn’t work.

Ellen: Yeah.

Alice: And I was like, oh my fucking God. It’s so unrealistic.

Ellen: Okay.

Alice: Anyway,

Bex: anyway,

Alice: that’s what I was watching the other day that I cracked it about the fucking coffee cups.

Bex: And the whole idea about, you know, like the butterfly effect of like, you save one person and it branches off instead of like a reverse final destination kind of way that you end up saving other people that starts Buck’s Brain, the wheels and Buck’s brain spinning as well. So it, it reassures Lucy, I mean, she’s already kind of come to terms with the fact that, you know, saving Bailey was a good thing, whether or not she meant to, whether or not, uh, she intended to or not.

But now the idea that like, by [01:37:00] saving her, she’s also saving other people’s kind of reinforced that it doesn’t matter that it was luck, it was luck that had bigger meaning. Um, but we’re not gonna, we’re not gonna work out where Buck’s gonna take this storyline. For a little while longer because we’ve gotta go to the next morning when Bobby is returning back home after his shift to find that his wife has been like up all night playing solitaire at the kitchen table.

Ellen: Yeah. She couldn’t sleep. All she could think of, like Bobby asked her if she, if he, if she heard about what happened to the kid and um, then she says, I, I don’t think I want to. ’cause Harry has those same shoes. So that’s why she was staring at the shoes on the street. And Bobby was like, oh, but Harry’s a good kid. It’s like, hang on.

Alice: Is he? Because he lit a fire

Ellen: and he ran away from home. Um, [01:38:00] Athena says “even good kids do dumb things.” So, but then Bobby gives her the news that the boy’s gonna be okay. He made it outta surgery. So Athena is a much relieved

Bex: Yes. Um, so while that conversation is happening, Buck has returned to his apartment, uh, where Taylor is sitting at the kitchen bench. She’s not playing Solitaire though. She is working on Lucy Denado

Ellen: and Buck’s like, “Uh, what?”

Alice: Buck, Buck’s face is like “What?”

Bex: Buck, literally recoils at this point. Like what?

Alice: Buck, Buck had dreams about that, but he didn’t think it’d be a

Bex: no, because apparently the reporters that are continuing to call Lucy to the point that she wanted to change her phone number include Taylor Kelly because she is trying to get an interview with her. [01:39:00] Um, and so she tries to use her in with Buck to get an interview with Lucy and Buck, bless him, shuts it down completely.

Um, but before Taylor can kind of. Ask why he’s so adamant that he’s not going to help her get like this award-winning story with this like amazing firefighter. He distracts her by asking for her help with something else. The, uh, which would give her an exclusive for a heartwarming surprise ending to a story that nobody knows about.

Ellen: Yeah. Except he hasn’t found the person yet. He needs her to find the person so that she can do the story. So he’s not really helping her.

Bex: He’s distracting her.

Ellen: Yeah.

Bex: But it’s like she gets a story out of at the end. ’cause he, because he knows that if he said, I need your help in finding someone, she would immediately go, what’s in it for me?

He’s like, so he’s, he’s putting [01:40:00] the what’s in it for her upfront. Like, you will get this amazing story if you help me like find all the pieces for said story. And said pieces lead them to, or lead back to a riding arena where there are kids being led around on horseback, uh, which is apparently like equine therapy.

And he has bought,

Ellen: I have definitely read a fic about this, but it’s a Destiel fic though.

Bex: And Chris, along with him, with I guess the like, Hey, do you wanna see if Chris is interested in doing some equine therapy and doing some horseback riding? Yeah, it’s, it’s really, it’s, it’s cute because, um, Chris is like looking at these horses going, “they’re really tall.”

Um, and Eddie’s like, “You know, if you don’t wanna do this, if it gets too scary, we don’t have to stay. We can go.” And Chris was like, “When do I get to ride one?” And Eddie’s like, “okay, maybe. Yeah, he’s, it’s not so scary.”[01:41:00]

So they, uh, they have a, um, somebody from the either the riding arena or someone from the stables, or someone like a therapist who takes Chris off to meet the horses, which he’s quite disgusted to learn, means that he has to like, um, muck out their stalls and groom them and feed them.

Ellen: He’s gotta do work,

Bex: walk them around before he can actually ride them. Uh, but he seems like he’s willing to go through that if the end result means that he gets to go ride. So she takes Chris, which allows Eddie and Buck to have a heart to heart. Eddie is asking like, like, why are we here? Why are we doing, like, why is Chris riding wanting to ride a horse? Why are we here? And um, Buck says,

Ellen: yeah, what, did you not have this conversation earlier? Like, what?

Bex: No, because they’re, they’re,

Ellen: you just went along with whatever.

Alice: Like, guys in the car, let’s go. Yeah.

Bex: They, they take after their father, they wait till they get to a location and get out before they have the conversation. Yeah, that’s right.

It’s just like [01:42:00] silence in the car on the way there. Um. So it’s a, it’s a bit of a segue. It’s a bit of a like winding, um, segue to get to his point. But he starts by reminding Eddie that Eddie had told him that he felt like everything was just random and there’s no point to anything.

And then Buck brings up, “before you started at the 118, we had a rule where you don’t go pla the glass doors, you rescue someone, you bring them to the er, you hand them over and then you leave. That’s it. Job done.” And Eddie’s like

Alice: someone in the writer’s room just re-watched the pilot and she’s like, oh yeah.

Ellen: Was at the, the pilot when they said that? Oh my god.

Bex: Yeah, pretty much. Um, and Eddie’s like, “wow, I’ve never heard that rule.” And like, yeah. And Buck’s like, “yeah, no, I broke that rule pretty early on.” um. But, um, the point,

Ellen: and now no one stays behind the glass door. They go all the way into the operating theater, holding onto the guy’s artery. [01:43:00]

Bex: We sit in the waiting room for hours with, for these people.

Ellen: Yeah.

Bex: Um, the, the reason that I’m telling you about this rule is that like the idea was that our job was always just to save the person in front of us and we weren’t supposed to know what happened next, but he thinks that it’s important that Eddie knows what happens next, um, because he thinks it’ll make Eddie feel better.

And he reminds, he asks Eddie if he can remember like the day he got shot and the reason why they were there and got shot. And he’s like, well, I’m not gonna forget that, that we were there for Charlie. And

Ellen: Yeah, it’s a weird segue from Eddie’s point of view. ’cause Buck’s like, oh, I wonder, “it made me wonder if you ever wished we hadn’t saved him.” And Eddie’s like, what the hell are you talking about man?

Bex: And Buck’s like, “but you know, if it’s all just random and there’s no point, then, you know, what was [01:44:00] the, you know, should we have even bothered trying to save Charlie?”

Um, Eddhe’s like, “it, it doesn’t matter if it was random. It doesn’t matter if it’s pointless is still the right thing to do,” and Buck’s like “Yeah. Uh, I think that too.” And he kind of goes like, ta-da out towards the arena. And Eddie realizes that one of the kids on the horseback is Charlie.

Alice: Yeah.

Bex: Who is doing wonderfully since he was rescued for by Eddie. He lives with his aunt and uncle. Um, he is fit and healthy after years have been poisoned. Um, and he comes horseback riding for the last couple of months

Ellen: because he got the help he needed because Eddie saved him.

Bex: Yeah.

Ellen: So he gave him second chance.

Alice: Even if Eddie did get shot.

Ellen: Yeah.

Bex: So the, what, the whatever happens to Charlie next was because of Eddie. [01:45:00] Eddie gave him the chance to have his whatever happened next. And maybe that is the point.

And then you can still, you can see the wheels turning in Eddie’s brain that, you know, it’s not so much that he’s listening to Buck more than he listened to Frank. It’s like Buck is building on the scaffolding that Frank had already set up in Eddie’s brain.

Ellen: Yeah. Buck’s been a good therapist this episode helped Lucy.

Bex: He really has all those

Alice: If only he could help himself.

Bex: Yes. Well, you know, they say that like you, doctors make the worst patients and doctors should never treat themselves and lawyers should never represent themselves. So, you know, people in therapy should not therapize themselves? I don’t know.

But yeah. But because really good with everybody else, he just, he’s not so, not so good with himself. He’s doing better though. I mean, we did mention in the, the last episode that he’s, you know, kind of conscious there is some self-awareness.

Ellen: Yeah, he was self-aware. Yeah.

Bex: It’s [01:46:00] just, it’s like that I’m self-aware. I just don’t know what to do with said self-awareness or, I am aware, I am self-aware, but I am like helpless to not stop from doing the shit that I’m doing. I’m aware that I’m doing it, but I can’t stop.

Ellen: Yeah.

Bex: Um, and that is where we leave this episode with Chris shoveling shit out in the stable and Buck and Eddie watching, um, Charlie riding around on a horse.

Ellen: No

Alice: which is

Ellen: strange voiceovers.

Alice: Creepy and stalkery. But it’s fine. But yes, no weird voiceovers.

Bex: No, no. Um, nobody in the writer’s room thinking shit. We did such a bad job of like the theme of this episode that we need to write a voiceover so we can really ram at home. They’re just like leaving it there for the audience to sort of figure it out.

Ellen: Well, they just kept telling us about luck the whole time, so I guess they don’t need to sum it up at the end, do they?

Bex: No, I think, I think this was a good episode. It was. [01:47:00] I mean, I still think the, the donation bin storyline was useless and I think that the, um, like the stop sign, like I understand where they went with the stop sign storyline, uh, but I think that that initial scene was stupid. Um,

Alice: it was weird, especially since like we never see Harry again, so

Ellen: yeah, I mean this, the donation bin thing could have been okay if it was like half as long. Maybe. It just goes on for a really long time.

Bex: It’s, I dunno, it really does, but the rest of it, I really enjoyed this episode.

Alice: Yeah.

Bex: I like Lucy, I like the Buck and Eddie of it. I like that we see Bobby and Eddie sort of starting to mend their relationship. We see Chim and Maddie starting to mend their relationship.

Alice: Yeah,

Ellen: yeah. Everyone had a little growth here and there. The, the, the luck versus fate part is interesting in that we are never really [01:48:00] sure what they intended by the theme.

Like, are you saying that dumb luck is not a real thing and it’s always meant to be this way, or, you know, they don’t really resolve that. In any, um, satisfactory way

Alice: in any capacity. Yeah. But yeah, no, good episode. It was nice and refreshing to actually enjoy both the episodes .

Ellen: I’m glad, I’m glad you finally got a good one out of season nine.

Alice: Yeah. I was like, oh, I do like this show. That’s right.

Ellen: Um, alright, well, tell me what’s happening next week then. What’s, where are we going next?

Bex: Next week? Next week we’re getting fomo.

Ellen: Oh.

Alice: Oh, it’s literally called. Yeah. Cool.

Bex: It’s literally called “FOMO”. Um, the members of the 118 race to the rescue of a social media influencer when she has an accident in a sauna and then to an emergency at a reality show wedding, and then finally to a tragedy when a mother and her daughter go hiking.

[01:49:00] Meanwhile, Maddie worries that she’s missed too many firsts with Jee-Yun, May questions Athena’s career path. And Hen and Karen attempt to recapture the fun in their relationship.

Alice: Oh, okay. This is an episode I remember very vividly. And fuck.

Bex: Yeah. Um, trigger warnings include, um, fainting. Oh, sorry. So we’ve got fainting, we’ve got gore, specifically a severe facial burn and a minor character death where a parent falls through something in front of their children.

Ellen: Oh, no.

Bex: Yeah,

Ellen: this doesn’t sound like much fun

Bex: from what I remember, the Hen and Karen storyline is fun. Um,

Alice: yes.

Bex: The rest of it not so much

Alice: The rest is awful.

Bex: No.

Ellen: Mm-hmm.

Alice: And or awful in a like, awfully sad way. Not at, not a, this is a shit episode way.

Bex: Oh yeah, yeah. No, it’s as in like, you know, when we were saying [01:50:00] that this episode is kind of heavy, but it was still sort of light and fluffy.

Um, the next episode is going to be heavy and just heavy.

Alice: Just heavy.

Ellen: Well, any, any episode where someone actually dies is probably gonna be a sad one. Generally speaking in the show,

Bex: I’m trying to think if we’ve ever had any fun deaths. I don’t think we have.

Ellen: Or deaths that where people, where we cheered at the end, like Doug or, I dunno, that was, that was like a stressful episode though, so,

Alice: yeah.

Bex: Yeah. I don’t think we were having fun with Do Doug’s death in that one.

Ellen: No. Um, all right, so let us know what you thought about, I’ve forgotten what it’s called already. “Dumb Luck”. I should have remembered that one. Um, do you, do you agree with our, our takes on the, uh, luck versus fate debate? Um, yeah, let us know.

You can leave us a comment on the episodes post on thatweewooshow.com or in Spotify or YouTube or on [01:51:00] social media. Please do. We’ve, we haven’t, we’ve had, it’s been a bit quiet on the comment front for a week, but I think it a couple weeks. I think it’s because we’ve had a bit of break, so

Bex: it just because we haven’t posted. We had a break.

Ellen: Yeah, yeah, yeah. So we, we’re starved

Bex: We were on a break!

Ellen: Of comments. Let us know what you think.

Alice: We were on a break!

Ellen: Uh, thank you very much for listening this week, and we’ll talk to you next time about episode 15, which is called “FOMO”. See you then.

Bex: Bye.

Alice: Bye.

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