Welcome to That Weewoo Show: a podcast where Ellen, Bex and Alice watch and discuss every episode of ABC’s TV show, 9-1-1.
In this episode we discuss episode 8 of the sixth season of 9-1-1, titled “What’s Your Fantasy?”.
118 comes to the rescue at the Renaissance Faire. Buck is tasked with babysitting Jee-Yun while Maddie and Chimney look for a new home. Eddie and Carla prepare Christopher for his first prom.
Content warnings for episode 6.08:
bees, bullying, hostage situation, incel character, misogyny, threat of police shooting, and threat of mass casualty attack
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Episode Transcript
Maddie: [00:00:00] 9-1-1. What’s your emergency?
Ellen: Welcome back to That Wee Woo Show, a podcast where we watch and discuss episodes of the ABC show 9-1-1. I’m Ellen.
Alice: I’m Alice.
Bex: And I’m Bex.
Ellen: And we’re back. It’s been a few weeks. Um-
Alice: It has …
Ellen: we’ve had a little break …
Alice: it’s been a while.
Ellen: Yeah. Um, yeah, nice to talk to you guys again. I’ve missed you.
Alice: I’ve missed you too. Um- It’s been-
Ellen: Aw
Alice: … a weird couple weeks without you, but um… And just a weird couple weeks in general, but, um-
Ellen: Well, you’ve had, you’ve had puppies to play with-
Alice: Nice to be back
Ellen: … so you know.
Alice: I have had puppies to play with.
Ellen: Very exciting.
Bex: But it’s nice to be back.
Ellen: It is. We’re get back into Season 6 and into our potentially least favorite season, but [00:01:00] we’re getting through it so let’s keep going.
Uh, we als- before we start on this episode, um, we need to say a big thank you to everyone who has been listening. We’ve got, um, a new listener who has been leaving us lots of comments on Spotify, and I don’t even know what their actual name is, but the s- commenter name is Art Donaldson Real GF. Hello. If you ever have made it this far, you’ve been, like, burning through the s- the, um, seasons and, um, we love that you, you’ve got through it all so quickly.
But if you’ve made it all the way up to now, then, um, you know, welcome and hello. Thank you. Um, and we also have to say a big thank you to Pigeon who has caught up to the latest episodes and, um, wrote us some very nice fan fiction ideas in comments. So, you know, we’re looking forward to reading about those at some point. No pressure.
Alice: Yeah, no pressure at all. A little pressure.
Ellen: Yes, some pressure. Oh, but I should- They’re [00:02:00] also, like, trying to put pressure on you guys to write your background firefighter fic, so I guess we’ll get there-
Alice: We’re getting there
Ellen: … by the end of this season.
Alice: We’ll get there when I’m out of the whelping box.
Ellen: Oh God, that sounds awful. That sounds like fan fiction on its own. Anyway. Um, I’m sure I read something about that. Uh, let’s go, uh, let’s have a, a talk about episode eight. Um, but before we do that, Alice, do you wanna remind us what happened all those weeks ago when we last spoke about 9-1-1?
Alice: Yeah.
I’m really glad I wrote this ahead of time because I do not remember. But last time on 9-1-1, the 118 dealt with a potentially cursed bracelet, and Buck completed a donation. Can’t believe that was the last episode we watched. Yeah.
Ellen: Yeah. That’s feels like a long time ago.
Alice: Yeah.
Bex: You mean Buck’s masturbatory habits aren’t, like, burned into your brain?
Alice: Oh, unfortunately they’re-
Bex: the amount of times we had to talk about them?
Alice: Unfortunately they’re always burned into my brain, but, um-
Ellen: Depends how much fic you’ve been reading lately.
Alice: Yeah, that’s it. [00:03:00] Um, no fic.
Bex: All right, well-
Alice: Just a lot of watching Veronica Mars, so.
Ellen: Which doesn’t really have anything to do with Buck masturbating, but anyway. Maybe it does, who knows?
Bex: Interesting crossover. The 118 go down the PCH. But no. Um-
This week, uh, on 9-1-1, the Paw Patrol race to the rescue at a Renaissance faire. As a tangent, I went to a Renaissance faire today, so I feel like-
Alice: Hey
Bex: … this is very topical.
Alice: Yay.
Ellen: Did you?
Bex: I did.
Alice: That’s so cool. Awesome. That was today.
Bex: Yeah.
Alice: I don’t know what day or date it is, but, um, you got your costume all finished?
Bex: Uh, well, it was, like the corset arrived. It looked fine. I had my mum lace me into it so I didn’t have to sit for an hour in the car in the corset. Um-
Alice: Excellent
Bex: … I h- I had a, a wood elf who accompanied me, and he looked very cool. Uh, we saw some-
Ellen: Wow
Bex: … jousting on horseback, and some [00:04:00] fencing, and some Morris dancers, and it was … And I blew my knee out trying to pick up a broadsword, so it’s all good.
Alice: Oh, no.
Bex: Um-
Alice: But no bees?
Bex: No bees. Um-
Alice: Phew
Bex: … it, it is winter down here, so I don’t think the bees particularly enjoyed the cold. So no, we didn’t have any incel bees, um, attack the, uh, the knights at our Ren Faire.
Ellen: Thank goodness.
Bex: Unlike they did in the Ren Faire in today’s episode, uh, where the 118 race to the Renaissance faire, and then to an office-
Alice: Paw Patrol race to the rescue
Bex: and then an office building, which again, I said this last episode, I love the fact that the office building is apparently more interesting than the Ren Faire.
Alice: Yeah.
Bex: Um, the office building where an overbearing boss is poisoned. Um, Athena fears for May’s life when she encounters a disturbed young man. Uncle Buck babysits young Jee-Yun as Maddie and Chimney begin house hunting, and Eddie and Carla prepare Christopher for [00:05:00] his first school dance.
Ellen: Wow, they really did just list every storyline in this episode.
Alice: Yep.
Bex: They really did, and I think we can report that every storyline that got listed actually appeared in today’s episode, for once.
Ellen: Yes.
Bex: Um, triggers for today’s episode include bees, bullying, a hostage situation, an incel character, misogyny, threat of police shooting, and threat of mass casualty attack, and you can decide which trigger goes with the bees and which one goes with the incel character. It’s probably more interesting than the episode itself.
Ellen: Um, I will say it is, I f- I thought it was quite funny that they went to this Ren Faire and the music playing was like … Now I can’t remember what the music was, but it was not- like Renaissance Faire music. We had-
Alice: It was Mariah Carey, wasn’t it?
Bex: Oh, Mariah Carey.
Ellen: Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Bex: Yeah, the episode opens with-
Ellen: And I listened to it going, “Are we in the ’90s?”
Bex: Because it’s a fantasy. Like, the entire [00:06:00] episode is about fantasy, so they need music that’s on theme, and what would be more-
Ellen: Yeah, I mean-
Bex: … fantastical than Mariah Carey’s “Fantasy”?
Ellen: I guess that makes sense, but, like- a ren faire? Like, I don’t know. They could’ve used it later.
Bex: Look, we had Morris dancers dancing to, um, Tones and I. Oh, wow. Like, ye old- a ye olde cover of Tones and I, so.
Alice: Oh, I love the ye olde cover.
Ellen: Like “Dance Monkey”?
Alice: Yeah.
Bex: Yes, exactly.
Alice: Yeah, no, the ren faire covers are great.
Bex: Um, so we’re at the ren faire. Uh, Mariah Carey is inexplicably playing.
Um- Yeah … and our characters of interest are two young girls. One of them is in a princess dress. The other one is sort of more in a knight/sort of squire outfit. She’s in, like, a doublet and breeches. Um, and it looks like the, uh, the older one is the one dressed as the knight, the younger one is the one [00:07:00] dressed as the princess.
It looks like the knight is a regular at the ren faire, because she can then translate to her, who we later discover, little sister, when the crowd keeps saying huzzah, that it’s, like, a ye olde way of saying hooray.
Alice: Yeah. Um, the younger sister’s just i- is, like, “Why don’t they just say hooray?”
Ellen: Because it’s a lot more fun to say huzzah.
Alice: Exactly.
Bex: Huzzah is such a cool word to say.
Ellen: It is.
Bex: As an aside, um, we, one of the things that we watched today was fencing, and the people that were, um, running the fencing said, you know, “Every time one of the, uh, fencers dies, we’re all gonna say huzzah.” So like, he’d, they’d be fencing, one of the, um, the fencers would get, like, the, the sword through, like, quote, unquote, “through their eye,” ’cause it would hit their mask.
And they’d go, “Oh, I’m dead,” and everyone would go, “Huzzah.” Slightly morbid-
Alice: They’re excited about it
Bex: … but a lot of fun.
Alice: Yeah. Oh, that’s great.
Ellen: I mean, they would, [00:08:00] they, they loved that kind of stuff back in the day, so sure. Why not? Uh, no one gets anything through the eye in this episode, though, um, that we see anyway.
Um, Harriet, who is the, the knight sister, you know, is trying to tell her little sister that, you know, “Even though you’re dressed like a princess, you don’t need a knight to come and rescue you because you can rescue yourself. Like, you’re not a damsel in distress. And, um, if Mom was still here, you’d know better.”
It’s like they’re really kind of setting up to David Wallace these kids, and I’m like, “Oh my God, what’s gonna happen? Someone’s gonna die.” But no, it’s not quite that serious.
Alice: It’s fine. They don’t kill kids. Yeah.
Ellen: No.
Bex: Uh, so it turns out that Harriet is a regular at the Ren Faire because she’s known by the people there. Um, and she has signed up for the joust. So the next thing we see, she is in a [00:09:00] tent getting kitted, kitting herself out in a suit of armor.
Ellen: Yeah, it’s nice armor. Very shiny.
Bex: Yes. And she tell, she asks her sister for her hair bow because every knight needs a lady’s favor, and she says to her sister that now she is going to see what a real-life female hero looks like.
Unfortunately for Harriet though, um, it appears that… And, like, I don’t know how long this tent and this armor has been set up, but I’m, unless it’s, like, a permanent Ren Faire, that it’s like it’s there constantly, I don’t know that bees would start building a hive in armor that quickly.
Alice: Yeah, right?
Bex: ‘Cause, like, that’s what we’re saying’s happened, right? The bees have taken over the armor?
Alice: I think they were just, I think the queen was just hanging out in there.
Ellen: Yeah, I thought it, they were in the [00:10:00] helmet. Like, when she put it on, that’s when it all started going wrong. But then the queen was, like, in her actual chest piece.
Bex: In her chest?
Ellen: Yeah. Yeah, so I don’t know. I don’t know.
Bex: So what, like… But she’s been dancing around for a-
Ellen: Maybe they were just swarming. Yeah.
Bex: Look, none of this scene makes any fucking sense. But-
Ellen: It really doesn’t.
Bex: … for the p- for, for the drama, apparently bees have started building a hive in this armor. So as soon as Harriet puts it on, um, like fully on, ’cause apparently the queen was cool with her just in the chest plate, but once she put the gauntlets and the helmet on, um, that’s when everyone started-
Alice: That’s what really did it, yeah
Bex: that, that arced up, and she started getting stung. Um, and so she runs out into the middle of the fairground and sort of collapses, which prompts them to call 9-1-1.
Ellen: Yeah, and her sister doesn’t actually scream until she’s lying on the ground, like- … writhing around kind of thing Like, it’s a, it’s a weird kind of setup. But anyway
Alice: It’s weird. But hey, at least they learnt from Supernatural and [00:11:00] only used CGI bees, because …
Bex: Yes, we can actually see the bees-
Alice: Yeah …
Bex: in this scene, and yes, that’s a fun … That w- that was the thought that I had when we’re watching the bees swarming around, going, “Oh, CGI bees. Excellent.” Because if anyone who’s come to 9-1-1 who has not come from Supernatural, though you we can explain to you the lore of, uh, the episode with the bees. Perhaps later- Yeah … if you are interested. Hit us up and we can tell you.
Ellen: It’s “Bugs”, right?
Bex: Yeah.
Ellen: Yeah.
Bex: It didn’t occur to me until the e- like, towards the end of the episode, where are these kids’ parents?
Alice: I don’t know. They’re just never, like
Bex: Like, we- we’re obviously Mum’s-
Ellen: Yeah, I th-
Bex: … Mum’s dead …
Ellen: I figured, yeah, Mum’s not around, but, and the dad’s-
Bex: Where’s Dad?
Ellen: … not with them. But I thought that the older kid was sort of old enough to be responsible for the younger one. Like, she seemed to be in, like a teenager at [00:12:00] least, right? So I don’t know. Yeah, but- Maybe they were just there on their own
Bex: I don’t know. I don’t know if I would be, like dropping my kids off at a Ren Faire all day without parental … Anyway, that was the thought I had. Because the next thing, time we see, uh, the 118 rolls up, and you’ve got Harriet sort of laid out in the middle of the fairground. Everyone is at, like no one’s going near her ’cause no one wants to be stung.
And every- there’s like no parents screaming like, “Oh my God, you’ve-“
Alice: How close are they to the Ren Faire that they managed to get there before she died?
Bex: That’s the other thing. And look, I mean- I mean- … I understand-
Ellen: They’ve got magical teleportation powers, clearly. ‘Cause they always get there in just in time.
Bex: Maybe the, maybe the Ren Faire is, like literally around the corner. Like, there’s just this little pocket forest in the middle of LA. Um- Look, yeah, I don’t, I understand that from a, like a storytelling perspective and a character perspective, we don’t need the parents ’cause we’ve got the little sister.
She’s the one that’s doing the panicking and the, [00:13:00] like we are living the, the fear and the anxiety through her. We don’t need parents, and that means they don’t have to cast another adult, pay another adult, and extend a screen, extend to shooting time. Um, but yeah, I was just like, as a parent I’m going, “Where is this kid’s parent right now?”
Yeah. But it took me all episode to think that
Ellen: Maybe the dad is hanging around somewhere. Who knows?
Bex: But then why… No. Moving on. I don’t know. The 118 are there
Ellen: … just don’t think about it. Um.
Bex: Nope.
Ellen: And they have bee nets. I, I was like, how, how often are they dealing with bees that they have-
Bex: Do they have bee nets?
Ellen: these special nets that can go on their helmets?
Bex: That’s a, that’s a really good question.
Ellen: I mean, I guess it would make sense to have… Oh, no, I don’t even wanna think about it. It’s, they’ve got these just cool little mask things that just go over their face so they can still see and not get the bees. Yep. But they, it doesn’t really matter because they shoot the [00:14:00] bees away with foam.
Alice: Yeah.
Ellen: Like the… ‘Cause no one can get close to her because of the, the bees are swarming around.
Bex: Yeah.
Ellen: They just get the hoses out and cover her with foam.
Bex: Yes. I do want to point out that when they walk into the fairground and they see the bees, um, Eddie takes one look at the scene and just goes, “Oh, no, not the bees.” And coming from watching this after having watched whatever fucking season Bee-nado was in-
Alice: Seven? Wait…
Bex: It’s-
Alice: Eight?
Bex: Eight.
Alice: Eight.
Bex: It’s just hilarious because you could imagine that kind of reaction after Bee-nado, but what has happened in Eddie’s life up until-
Ellen: Yeah!
Bex: … season six that he is just like, “Ah, shit, not bees.” unless he’s like some kind of time traveler where he’s already experienced the Bee-nado and then he’s come back in time to season six and he’s like, “Oh, fucking bees again.” [00:15:00]
Ellen: I’m so looking forward to Bee-nado, by the way. Everyone talks about it.
Alice: Bee-nado is actually great, though.
Bex: Um, so yes. So 118 are there. Um, Eddie is not loving the bees. Buck has the hose, sprays down Harriet with the foam which either, um, encourages the bees to disperse or kills them instantly- Kills them … on contact. We don’t know.
Ellen: Drowns them or something.
Bex: Um, and so the paramedics run in to start, like, assessing and helping Harriet. Um, which includes, like, pouring an entire container of lube down under her armor, um, because-
Ellen: Oh, yeah, they can’t get it off
Bex: because of all of, because of all of the bee stings.
Ellen: Because she’s swollen.
Bex: She’s swollen and they can’t get the armor off her.
Ellen: Yeah, Eddie’s like trying to- Yeah. Oh, yeah, it’s a bit gross. But, and but also as they’re [00:16:00] moving towards her, Hen is like wishing everyone top of the morning to you. Top of the morning. It’s like-
Bex: I’m like- …
Ellen: you’ve never been to a Ren Faire before have you? They’re not Irish.
Bex: They’re not leprechauns.
Ellen: I mean, some of them might be Irish, but you know.
Alice: I thought the same thing. I was like, uh, what is, what?
Bex: She’s obvious- Like, she’s, she’s trying to get into character of like the ye olde talk, but all she knows is top of the morning to you.
Ellen: Yeah.
Alice: And it, like what?
Bex: “Top of the morning to you. I’m Jacksepticeye.”
Ellen: It’s weird.
Bex: Anyway.
Ellen: Yep,
Alice: sure
Ellen: They can’t get in, like, to work out, you know, how to treat her because she’s got this armor on, so they just start cutting it off, which is really sad. They get these, like, basically metal cutters and, like-
Alice: It’s basically a can opener
Ellen: chop it. Yeah. They, like, cut the metal, which is, um, sad because that armor is probably either worth a fortune or took a long time someone to make [00:17:00] by hand.
Bex: Yes, but dead child-
Ellen: But anyway …
Bex: intact armor, like, you’ve gotta balance, balance it out.
Ellen: Yeah, I know. They have to get it off, but, like, yeah, I was sad. Um, she’s got lots of bites on her face and, and, um, she’s all swollen up.
Uh, and- Yes … and her sister’s freaking out, but… And Hen tells her, you know, if they, uh, they put something in her throat to stop her airway from swelling up, it should buy them a little more time, and the little sister’s like, “What if it doesn’t?” And rather than reassuring her, Hen says, “Then your sister is gonna need intubation-
Bex: Hen has no patience
Ellen: or a tracheotomy.”
Alice: Yeah. Hen’s just like, “Hey Cap, come get this child away from me.”
Bex: Like- Yeah … she’s not in any way trying to calm this kid. She’s just like, “Yeah- No … I’m gonna have to slice your sister’s throat open.” Um-
Ellen: I mean, to be fair, Bobby is very good at calming children down in general.
Bex: He is very good, yes. [00:18:00] Uh, but, you know, Hen having kids, you… And we have seen her be good with kids. You’d think she’d be- You’d think that perhaps she would be a little bit more reassuring, but no, that’s Cap’s job today. Yeah. Which is fine. So he pulls-
Alice: Cap is babysitter
Bex: … sister out of the way, um, and then comes back with the hose because apparently the swarm is returning. So either Buck just scared off the bees or reinforcements have arrived. Because, and, like, for the drama, ’cause I don’t understand how this fucking happened, the queen is inside the armor.
Alice: Yeah.
Bex: And I’m pretty su-
Ellen: Now h- how, how do they know that? I don’t understand.
Alice: And they grab it really fast too, like it, they just immediately find it
Ellen: And they know that that one is the queen as well.
Like how would-
Bex: Well, that’s-
Ellen: … would you be able to identify a queen bee? Like-
Bex: I mean,
Alice: they do look different
Bex: … you can, bec- but- They do look really different, but the one that Hen pulls out is not a queen bee. It’s just a drone.
Alice: It just looks like a bee, yeah. [00:19:00]
Bex: Cause I went, ’cause they pulled it out. I’ve occasionally get, um, like apiarists on my TikTok feed, so I’ve seen, um-
Ellen: Oh …
Bex: bee stuff
Ellen: Give you inside information, yeah
Bex: And some, like they pull, they pull out the, the bee and I’m like, “That, that’s not a queen.” So I Googled, so I have pictures here of what a queen bee looks like.
Alice: Yeah, queens are usually a lot less fluffy.
Bex: They’re, they’re very-
Ellen: Oh, there it is. Yeah …
Bex: identifiable. It’s just usually you can’t find them because they’re surrounded by their, their drones and their workers. Um-
Ellen: Mm-hmm
Bex: But yeah, but they don’t fly around unless they’re trying to establish a new hive. So then again, my question is how long has that armor been sitting there that a queen flew around and then landed in the armor and then started, like building a hive in it?
Ellen: Yeah.
Bex: And then why did it not sting? And this storyline is so fucking stupid. But yes, they pull out a bee, they proclaim it’s the queen. Um, and then Hen just like [00:20:00] throws it in the air like some kind of bee catch and release program, and all of the bees just follow the queen away.
Alice: Yep. Magically.
Ellen: Yeah, magic. So there’s that bee thing solved.
Alice: Yep. And then the kid also just magically wakes up as soon as the queen’s away from her too. Yes. I mean, I know that they shot, gave her epi, but it, like the timing is the exact same time. It’s- It’s weird.
Bex: Yep. And then as soon as the kid opens her eyes, the crowd starts applauding. And like how? Because the crowd is like well at a distance, how did they see her eyes open from where they were? Mm. She didn’t even do that like big gasp of air that they have people do when they’ve been unconscious for some kind of medical emergency. Um, the one thing that I do like about this storyline is that like we set it up, um, like girl power, girls can be heroes as well, and as they’re wheeling Harriet to the ambulance, she gives her little sister back her hair bow and says, “You can have this back.[00:21:00]
Um, I’m, you know, like I’m not such a, a knight in shining armor because I needed to be saved.” And her sister goes, “Yeah, but you got saved by Hen, who is a girl.” Yeah. So girls can totally be heroes.
Alice: And Hen’s walking ahead like, “Yeah, I’m a girl.”
Ellen: Gee, they really push that- So they- … um, you know, girls can be heroes this, th- in this episode. And I-
Alice: Well, it is a fantasy
Ellen: … the whole time I’m sitting-
Bex: Oh. Oh, no.
Ellen: The whole time I’m sitting there thinking, um, like this was in 2022. Like I’m pretty sure we all kind of have known for a v- a long time by then that girls could be heroes too. But for some reason this episode-
Bex: Okay, Alice just put a complete dampener on it though
Ellen: they just really needed to put that point in. Yeah, yeah, the fantasy. Uh…
Bex: Girls can be heroes if it’s in a fantasy, not in reality. Goddammit.
Ellen: Well, that’s depressing.
Bex: Moving on. Time for Uncle Buck.
Alice: [00:22:00] Yeah.
Ellen: Aw, he’s so excited.
Alice: This is the, the best part of the entire, the only good part of the entire episode.
Ellen: Well, he’s very excited to be babysitting Jee for the day.
Alice: At his house for some reason instead of the house that she-
Bex: Yes. Why didn’t he go over to Maddie and Chim’s and stay there with Jee? ‘Cause like all her toys are there, it’s child-proof. Um-
Alice: Yeah, there’s no stairs for her to get up and down …
Bex: it would’ve made so much more sense for him to go. I like, I know it’s for the drama and for the entertainment, it’s much more fun watching him run around as she tries to kill herself on those stairs that he’s got going up to his loft bedroom.
And like that utter lunacy of propping pillows up as if that’s gonna be enough to stop her. But yeah- Mm … in reality he should have gone to their place.
Alice: Yeah. It’s-
Bex: Anyway
Ellen: Yeah, he thinks he’s got everything organized, but, um, Jee has other plans She’s just gonna run amok.
Bex: She is gonna run amok. Yeah. So she is hanging with Uncle Buck so that Maddie and Chim can start looking for [00:23:00] new houses, uh, slash, I think they’re l- they’re looking for a house. They’re trying to find something that’s gonna be big enough, um, at least two bedrooms-
Alice: Yeah
Bex: for their growing family. Can we just point out that, um, like Maddie and Chim were completely organized. They brought all of their stuff over, um, including food for Jee, but then when Chim’s unpacking it, he’s made Jee a lunchbox, but he’s also made Buck an identical lunchbox.
Alice: Well, as he should.
Ellen: Aw, that’s cute.
Bex: So they’ve got turkey sandwiches and chicken nuggets for Jee, but they’ve also got turkey sandwiches and chicken nuggets for Buck.
Alice: Well, yeah.
Bex: And I thought that was just adorable.
Alice: That’s probably all he eats is chicken sandwiches and chicken, I mean turkey sandwiches-
Bex: Hey
Alice: … and chicken nuggets.
Bex: He knows how to make lasagna and breakfast.
Alice: True.
Ellen: Yes. Bobby has been teaching him.
Bex: Yes.
Ellen: It’s very cute. So they’re trying to do some coloring in, but she’s throwing the crayons [00:24:00] away, and then she discovers-
Alice: This is a rookie error that we learnt from our dogs very quickly. Like, they will throw shit just so that you’ll pick it up, and then they’ll look at you waiting for you.
So if they-
Bex: Yes
Alice: … throw it on the ground-
Ellen: Oh, yeah
Alice: … you have to leave it. Make them get it themselves.
Bex: Oh, yeah. It, it totally becomes a game.
Ellen: Yeah, it’s a game. Yeah. It’s funny how, uh, like puppies and human babies are so similar in that way.
Alice: Yeah. They’re basically the same thing.
Ellen: Yeah. Uh, yeah, she finds a roll of toilet paper and just runs around the whole house, uh, with like just r- unrolling it everywhere.
Alice: Yep. Yep.
Ellen: Which is another such a doggy thing to do.
Alice: It’s- There’s, there’s also a basketball which is, keeps bouncing past and, um, I wonder where that went, goes next season. Um- Anyway, yeah, it’s pretty cute. Like it’s, it’s a cute sequence. Like they have Jee like, Jee’s feet running past and then [00:25:00] Buck running after her, and then Buck, like Jee running the other way and then Buck running after her.
Bex: There’s really no other point to the scene other than-
Alice: It’s just cute
Bex: … just the cuteness.
Ellen: It’s just cute. Yeah.
Bex: Yeah. It, it does set up that Maddie and Chim are looking for, um, like a new place to live, but we didn’t actually need this scene to advance that story. It was just cuteness. Mm-hmm.
Ellen: Very cute.
Bex: Um, so by the t- by the time Chim and Maddie come back, Jee has finally gone down for her nap, and Buck also needs a nap.
Ellen: I remember those feels. Unfortunately, you don’t get to do it when it’s your child, unless you-
Bex: Um, no, not-
Ellen: … unless your child sleeps for longer than an hour, like mine didn’t.
Bex: Well, there’s als- there’s always the advice, you know, sleep when the baby sleeps, which is fine, but when the baby sleeps is also when you’re doing the laundry and the dishes and-
Ellen: Yeah
Bex: all of the other things. So unless you’ve got somebody else in the house that can do the other shit that needs to be doing, you kind of need to [00:26:00] be doing stuff while the kid’s asleep, ’cause that’s the, like, potentially at least 20 minutes to get stuff done.
Ellen: Yep.
Bex: Longer if they’re able to link sleep cycles. Mine never could.
Alice: God, having kids … just sounds like so much fun.
Ellen: It’s all right. Yeah.
Bex: Yeah. Yeah. It’s great. It-
Ellen: As they get older it, it becomes easier. But when they’re little it’s, yeah.
Alice: My seven-month-old is asleep on the floor next to me. Just saying.
Bex: She’s ta- Anybody who’s currently looking up the, like, Department of Children and Family Services for Australia, it’s her dog.
Alice: Yeah.
Bex: It’s just her dog.
Alice: I do not have human children. I only have canine children.
Bex: If you’ve never listened to us and that’s the first impression you’ve got of Alice, she’s talking about a dog.
Alice: He can already walk and talk and do all these clever things.
Bex: So clever.
Ellen: Aw. Yeah, what a clever boy. All right. So they, but they don’t, they don’t find a house [00:27:00] that… Like, they’re all too expensive or they were, anything in their price range was either the size of their apartment, needed to be torn down, or both
Bex: Yeah.
Alice: Yeah.
Ellen: But, um, that’s the end of that.
Bex: So then we go to the more grown-up children at the Bathena residence where May is coming for dinner, um, and she’s bringing a friend. And it turns out that her friend is Darius, which Athena absolutely loves.
Ellen: Darius.
Alice: Um, I had to go … I was like, “Do, are we supposed to know this guy?” Turns out we are supposed to know this guy.
Bex: Yes, we- Yeah … we are supposed to know this guy.
Alice: From three seasons ago.
Ellen: Is it the same actor? I didn’t even-
Bex: Yes
Ellen: recognize him, but-
Bex: It’s the same actor
Ellen: … okay.
Bex: It’s been three years.
Ellen: I remembered his name, but I didn’t-
Bex: He grew up a little bit.
Ellen: Yeah, yeah.
Bex: Um, so if anyone else has forgotten, we meet Darius during “Athena Begins”. He’s, like, May’s boyfriend, the, the poor kid that gets interrogated by all of May’s parental [00:28:00] units at dinner. So, like, not just Athena. Sh- he got Athena, Michael, and Bobby all interrogate, and Harry I think too jumped in on the game as well. Um-
Ellen: That’s right …
Bex: when he, the, he was just coming to pick her up for, like, a movie. Um, and then at the end of the season they went to prom together, and he was … His parents are, parents wanted him to go to Yale, I think, heading off to med school. Um, he wanted to take a year off before he went to college.
Ellen: Mm.
Bex: So apparently he’s done that- But he’s back … and now h- yeah, now he’s back and he’s heading into college And he’s actually thinking of transferring to May’s college. So he’s come to check it out
Alice: Yeah, I wonder why.
Bex: Hmm. Oh, Stanford. Sorry, he was gonna go to Stanford Stanford, Yale
Alice: Oh, like Sam Winchester
Bex: They get confused in my Gilmore Girls head.
Ellen: But then it [00:29:00] turn, as it turns out, he’s, um, not staying with his parents because they’re currently not speaking to each other, or they’ve had a disagreement, and he’s not staying with them. So I don’t know. They don’t sort of reveal where he is staying here.
Bex: He’s staying at the frat house with Hiro and Incel Boy.
Ellen: Yeah, but not, we don’t find that out until a bit later.
Bex: Yeah.
Ellen: Like, they don’t, they just say that he’s not-
Alice: He’s just at a friend’s place
Ellen: … staying with his parents. Yeah.
Bex: He’s, yeah, setting up that he’s at a friend’s house, but he’s staying for dinner.
Alice: Probably sick of hot dogs at the frat house.
Bex: Pizza.
Alice: It’s basically Buck’s old house.
Bex: Pretty much, yeah. Um, Athena looks like she’s-
Ellen: I don’t know if his roommates were as psycho as, uh, as that one going-
Bex: No
Ellen: … at this one. But anyway.
Bex: No, I don’t think so.
Alice: No, they just come back and ask for sperm. Um-
Ellen: Ugh, yeah. Okay, I revise my psycho statement. Um. All right, it’s time to go to the office. [00:30:00]
Bex: Ugh.
Ellen: Uh, this boss guy i- this whole scene is just really annoying, actually. It just, uh, it just felt too real to me, I think. I was like, “Oh, I recognize this.”
Bex: The guy kept giving me, and I can’t remember his name, but I can see his i- like, the doctor from Scrubs. Like, the, the- Oh … really overbearing- Yeah … doctor from Scrubs. That’s who the boss reminded me of.
Alice: Dr. Cox?
Bex: Let’s see. Yes, Dr. Cox.
Alice: Okay, cool. Yeah.
Bex: Yeah, so we don’t even know what kind of job they do, what kind of work it is. Um, all we’ve really learned in this scene-
Alice: They, um, clearly they arrange seating charts. Like-
Bex: Well, that’s for the annual charitable outreach event.
Alice: No, this is, that’s just what they do. They just arrange seating charts.
Bex: They just arrange-
Alice: It’s a whole office to arrange seating charts.
Bex: Um, but we, we very quickly, we’re set to understand that the boss is a dick, and he bullies his assistant [00:31:00] mercilessly.
Alice: Yeah.
Ellen: Yeah And it’s, he’s, uh, as they go on with these sort of, um, montage of bullying, um, the assistant is just getting more and more exasperated as he goes along.
And then he starts having these, like, fantasies. Like, the fi- the first one I was like, Oh my God, he actually like, you know, pushed him out the window, like, you know, with hi- the power of his mind. But no, it turned out to just be a fantasy that he was having in his mind. It didn’t really happen.
Bex: But what was, what I found really odd about this scene is that they, I think they set it up that it was supposed to be multiple fantasies of his boss dying.
Ellen: Yeah.
Bex: So we have the one where his boss is, like, slamming, is banging his head against the glass, and the glass shatters, and he falls to his death. And then we have another one where, I think it’s supposed to be part of a montage where suddenly the assistant is being [00:32:00] forced to do his kid’s high school science project, and, um, the boss gets electrocuted.
Ellen: Yeah.
Bex: But that’s it. I don’t know if you can call two scenes a montage.
Alice: Yeah, it was weird.
Bex: Because suddenly we’re, we’re into the actual what’s going to happen for this as part of this storyline. So I don’t know if they s- if they shot multiple instances-
Ellen: Yeah, maybe it was a, a lot longer and it had to be cut or something
Bex: and they cut it for time, or they just went, “You know what? We get the picture. The guy keeps, like, fantasizing about his boss’s death. We don’t need anything.” But it was just a really weird juxtaposition of going from this scene, which was our storyline, and then jumping up to this other scene, which was obviously a previous instance, and then back down to the normal storyline. Just really weird.
Ellen: Mm-hmm.
Alice: Yeah.
Bex: Um, but in present time-
Alice: Maybe the Scrubs, maybe he was supposed to look like Dr. Cox because the fantasies are such a big part of Scrubs.
Bex: Maybe.
Alice: [00:33:00] Maybe they were trying to channel it, like 15 years later.
Bex: I mean, all they were missing was the, the random girls names and I would’ve completely bought it. Um-
Alice: All right, Leslie.
Bex: Um, so we come back to-
Ellen: I miss Scrubs. That was a great show.
Bex: It, they’ve re- it’s been rebooted too. Oh my God.
Alice: Yeah. Apparently it was actually okay. Yeah, I need to… I keep meaning to watch it, but, you know, I’m busy with watching Veronica Mars.
Bex: Veronica Mars?
Alice: We lit- it’s what… We literally started watching it like three days ago too.
Like, it’s not like I’ve been spending the last three weeks watching it. Yeah, we were… The, it’s really funny too, because we were watching Nancy Drew while waiting for the puppies to be born, and I messaged some friend… Like, it was on, um, my best friend’s request, so I didn’t wanna like be like, “Oh, this show really sucks and it, Veronica Mars is better.”
But I was messaging some friends about how like it just made me yearn for V- Veronica Mars. Like it was, it just felt like a Veronica Mars rip-off. [00:34:00] Didn’t say this to my friend, and then yes, she suggested watching Veronica Mars, and I was just like, “Thank you.”
Bex: Wait. God. Veronica Mars is a Nancy Drew rip-off.
Alice: Yes, but there’s a N-
Bex: ‘Cause Nancy Drew came way before Veronica Mars.
Alice: Yes. They also like reference Nancy Drew in Veronica Mars. But there’s a new-
Bex: Yeah, they call her Nancy Drew …
Alice: there’s a, there’s a Nancy Drew series that, like a CW Nancy Drew series that came out in like 2019.
Bex: Oh, okay.
Alice: And that’s what we were watching, and I was like-
Bex: Ah, gotcha
Alice: it’s just not as good.
Bex: Gotcha. Gotcha.
Alice: I understand why th- yeah, if you didn’t know about the CW series, how that could’ve been confusing.
Bex: Yes.
Alice: Um, no, we were watching the CW series Nancy Drew, which was like, yeah, 2018 or 2019.
Bex: Wait, Veronica Mars was on the CW. So what, they got rid of Veronica Mars and went, “Actually no, we yearn for teenage girl detectives, so we’re gonna bring back the OG?”
Alice: Well, it was- So weird … yeah, a long time ago. Like Veronica Mars wasn’t exactly recent
Bex: Shush, it was like two years ago. I remember it was [00:35:00] two years ago.
Alice: Sure. Um, yeah, Nancy Drew aired in 2019, the CW series.
Bex: Oh.
Alice: And it’s very CW.
Bex: Anyway, back in the office building, um, back in-
Ellen: Yeah, we’re actually going to, like, a real thing that is actually happening, even though it’s supposed to-
Alice: Oh my God
Ellen: be
Alice: fiction
Apparently it was, it actually was aired on-
Bex: No
Alice: Oh no, it was re- redeveloped for NBC
Bex: We’ve lost Alice.
Alice: Yeah, I’m- Yeah … you know, we can pick it.
Ellen: Yeah, she’s down the rabbit hole now. Yeah. It-
Bex: Okay.
Alice: CBS originally ordered a Nancy Drew series. NBC then took it on, and then they were like, “Oh, never mind,” and so the CW took it, and that makes more…
I was like, “What do you mean it was CBS and NBC?” Like, it was not, it’s very CW, but no, it, it was airing on the CW- Yeah … so that’s cool. All right. Anyway, what were we talking about?
Bex: Um, Tyler-
Ellen: 9-1-1?
Bex: … the assistant to Dr. Cox, um-
Alice: Oh, I just don’t care
Bex: … or the, he, he does a coffee order. There’s this big thing where apparently the boss is allergic to, uh, cow’s milk. Um- [00:36:00]
Alice: It could literally kill him, and then he drinks the coffee and actually dies
Bex: … despite that, none of the coffees are marked.
Ellen: It takes ages for him to bring him a coffee
Alice: Yeah, none of them are marked. It’s super, super weird.
Bex: Yeah, so distributes the coffees, ’cause he’s got coffee for everyone in the office, hands over a coffee to the boss.
Um, the co- the boss starts drinking the coffee and collapses on the ground. I do like that, like, this little moment where he collapses on the ground and Tyler just starts grinning because he assumes it’s another one of his fantasies, and then everybody in the office runs to the door and is like, “Oh my God, what happened?”
And Tyler’s going, “Wait, you guys can see my fantasy too? Oh shit, it’s not a fantasy. He’s actually, like, collapsed.”
Ellen: This guy needs some serious therapy, like-
Bex: He really does.
Ellen: Yeah.
Bex: Um, so then despite the fact that they’re, and I know it’s because they can’t, they didn’t wanna pay anybody else their SAG rate, and it’s just easier for one actor to do everything.
This guy then calls 9-1-1 and is doing CPR badly, [00:37:00] um, while confessing to murder to Maddie on the- Yeah … 9-1-1 call.
Alice: Yeah.
Bex: So of course Athena gets called-
Alice: Yeah …
Bex: as well as the 118, who take their sweet fucking time. Um, if this
Alice: guy was- Yeah, like
Bex: this guy’s
Alice: dying on the floor and they’re just, like, hanging out, chatting to Athena
Bex: They’re really don- they’re really not giving a prompt reaction to potential death by anaphylaxis in either of these emergencies
Alice: No. Bobby’s, like, asking Athena what’s for dinner, um- … finding out if Darius is staying tonight again.
Ellen: I mean, he’s, he’s- Um … like no one tells Bobby why Athena is there. She, he’s just like- He’s like, “I’ve-” … “I thought this was just an allergic reaction. Like, what are you doing here?”
Alice: He doesn’t care. He just wants to know what she wants for dinner.
Ellen: Um, Athena, like, takes the guy to one side and is like, “Oh, can you just come and talk to me for a minute while these guys help your boss?”
Alice: Oh, he just starts confessing. And- He’s just like, “Oh my God.” Yeah, he just keeps saying. “Like if I, if I started k- if I thought about killing him [00:38:00] in advance that’s con- considered premeditation, right? Which is more prison time.” And she’s like, “You’re not supposed to confess immediately. Like, what are you doing?”
Ellen: She’s like, “Oh, think very carefully about what you’re saying to me before you say anything else.”
Alice: Yeah. Can I read you your rights first? Like
Ellen: Yeah.
Bex: So the, the 118, it’s not very interesting. They put him on the life pack. They’re shocking him. It, it’s a thing. They’re, um, treating him. Athena’s continuing her interrogation and she’s asking, “So you thought about killing him more than once?” And Tyler’s like, “More than once a day. Like sometimes I didn’t even make it to lunch without envisioning his gruesome, his gruesome death, which, you know, I’m not proud of by the way.”
Alice: Little bit proud of, but mostly not proud of.
Bex: Um-
Ellen: Not until it started coming true. Um.
Bex: The one, the paramedics get the boss back, um, and they report to Athena that whatever happened to him, the symptoms were not consistent with anaphylaxis or any kind of allergic reaction. It was like cardiac.
Alice: Yeah, they somehow managed to diagnose [00:39:00] a heart attack.
Bex: Um- They’ve … Somebody’s got the magic helmet on.
Alice: Apparently.
Ellen: Clearly.
Bex: It’s a textbook coronary. They’ve, they can look, they’ve got the magic helmet. They can look in and-
Alice: Oh my God, that’s right. This is the scene, I just went back to check. Hang on. Um, this is the scene where they’re analyzing the rhythm while doing CPR.
Ellen: Oh.
Alice: And I’m like, “That’s not how it works.”
Bex: I’ve, I wasn’t even paying attention to what they were doing. I’m just like, “Okay, cool. They’re, they’re shocking.” He just, he had no heartbeat, but they were shocking him anyway. Like, I’m pretty sure that’s not how it works.
Ellen: Yeah, I- I think it was this scene where, as well, where it was all really tense, like they were trying to get him back and trying to get him back.
Alice: Yeah, but like no one cared.
Ellen: And then all of a sudden he ca- he started breathing again or whatever, his heart started up again, and then it was just like all attention just disappeared. Yeah. And it was, it was like, “Okay- So- … he’s fi- he’s [00:40:00] fine now.”
Alice: The CPR, like, obviously the CPR’s fake. We know that the CPR’s fake, but the guy isn’t even, like, depre- like, they need to get, like, some sort of dummy or something that they can put- Because he’s not even pushing on the chest.
He’s just, like, waving his hands above the guy. And he’s like, “Don’t you die on me.” And it’s like you’re not actually doing anything. And then they’re analyzing the rhythm while doing CPR. Like, I think that they just fired the medical, like, person on this-
Bex: The, the med consultant
Alice: … the med consultant-
Bex: I mean-
Alice: on this s- season …
Bex: the guy that’s- Because- … the guy that’s playing Tyler, I can understand that his CPR is bad because they had him in for, like, a couple of hours, maybe a day, and no one was going to t- take extra time to pay him to take him aside and go, “Okay, here’s how you actually do CPR.” Yeah. But- They’re just gonna shoot his scene and get him out of there.
Alice: To analyze the rhythm, you have to stop doing CPR, because otherwise you’re- Yes … manually pumping the heart, and so it’s going to show-
Bex: Yes
Alice: … the manual heart pumps on the, um, on the device. And [00:41:00] yeah, somehow that-
Bex: Yes, I can’t explain that one.
Alice: You also can’t diagnose a heart attack-
Bex: You can-
Alice: From- …
Bex: if you’re Chim. Okay? Okay. He’s got the magic helmet.
Alice: Well-
Bex: I don’t think any of them have got a helmet at this point-
Ellen: Chim totally can.-
Bex: … because they’re inside, but Chim can totally d- diagnose a coronary
Alice: Oh my God, it does. Like, this whole scene was just so bad and I literally had to stop watching because it was, like, from the flailing CPR to them doing, analyzing the rhythm while do- while actively doing CPR, I was like, “I can’t watch this. I can’t deal with it.” Um, so I have no idea what happened in the rest of the scene after they said this guy had a heart attack. No fucking idea.
Bex: Well, nothing.
Alice: I’m assuming the guy wasn’t arrested, but um, yeah.
Bex: No, Athena tells him to confess to a priest next time he feels like, um, confessing his- Yeah … deep, dark fantasies.
Ellen: Bring back hot priest!
Alice: Sure. Great. Yeah, bring back hot priest.
Bex: Um, and then that’s it, and then we go hang out with Eddie and Carla, so you’re good. We’re done.
Alice: Um, I just like in my original notes, [00:42:00] it literally just says, “You can’t tell somebody has had a heart attack from doing some CPR. Oh my fucking God.”
And then there’s no notes until, like, the end of the episode, ’cause clearly- … I was just like, “Fuck this fucking episode.”
Bex: I mean, you have to. This is the, um, the same crew of people who can diagnose, um, a broken pelvis from just hearing something go snap.
Alice: Oh.
Bex: Yeah. Um, or I think Athena diagnosed a stroke just by looking at someone.
Alice: Yep.
Bex: Yeah. W-
Alice: Didn’t Athena diagnose a stroke just by talking to someone?
Bex: Yeah, it was the, the woman that suddenly started speaking in a British accent. Yeah. Like Athena just…
Alice: And she’s like, “Oh, yes, it’s a stroke.”
Bex: It’s a stroke. Like, that was when she was still trying to hook up with Bobby, so she was trying to impress him.
Ellen: She was taking a wild stab. Any- And it happened to be correct.
Bex: Anyway.
Ellen: Anyway.
Alice: Oh, my God. Sorry, I just had the scene going because, like, to… And they’re just like, “Oh, we’ve got a pulse,” while Chim’s still doing CPR. It’s like, [00:43:00] yes, that’s how it works.
Bex: Of course he’s got a pulse. Chim’s got a pulse. It’s Chim’s pulse.
Alice: That’s, that’s how it works- … because he’s an… Oh, my God. Oh, my God, bring back the med consultant. Like, did you hire a three-year-old? Did you hire a med student who hadn’t yet been to class?
Bex: They probably assumed, “Look, we’ve run so many of these scenes, we don’t need the med consultant. We got this, babe.”
Alice: Yeah, we’ll just cut costs and fire the med consultant, because none of- Like, I understand, I, I do, I understand that this isn’t the most realistic show.
Bex: Hang on, hang on. I’m just gonna push my soapbox over so you can get up on it.
Alice: I understand that this isn’t the most realistic show. I get that. But can you at least have a little bit of realism, just a little, a little bit, a little bit of the stuff that’s super fucking- Yeah … obvious to anyone in the world who’s taken a fucking CPR course.
Bex: Y- you’re asking for realism from the show where they had the guy that had, like, the, the bowel obstruction that came up through his esophagus?
Alice: Just a little bit. A [00:44:00] little bit. A little bit of medical accuracy. Just a t- a, a little bit. I don’t care how much, but-
Ellen: You’re, you’re asking for too much.
Alice: Apparently.
Ellen: It’s never gonna happen.
Alice: Apparently.
Ellen: Anyway, we need to go to the cuteness now for a minute.
Bex: Yes.
Ellen: Um, Chris is getting ready for a dance, and he’s got this really cute suit on.
Bex: Which, is that the
Ellen: suit- Um, Carla is there too.
Bex: … that he got fitted for for Ana’s family wedding, that Eddie, like-
Alice: Probably.
Ellen: Oh, maybe. Oh, God.
Bex: That Eddie panicked his way out of?
Alice: Oh, my God. Probably.
Ellen: Well, he’s like, “Don’t you remember how handsome everyone said you looked when you wore it last time?” Did they even go to Ana’s family wedding?
Bex: I don’t know. But I’m assuming that, like, maybe he wore it to his dad’s, not his dad, like, it, um, his grandfather’s 60th. Was that a suit circumstance?
Ellen: Mm-hmm. Can’t remember. [00:45:00]
Bex: Anyway, the whole point is Chris is getting incredibly, um, anxious about his appearance. He’s worried that the suit doesn’t fit because he found something on the internet that said, you know, the cuffs are supposed to sit here and the, the, um, the sh- it’s supposed to fit here, and his suit is not meeting those parameters.
Ellen: Bless him. He looks adorable.
Bex: He does. But he also wants a haircut and Eddie is just like completely done with his son be- getting all, you know, worried about his appearance
Ellen: Well, he says, “Why? Have you got some kind of hot date?” And Chris is like, “No. Jeez.”
Bex: He’s like, “Get out of my room.”
Ellen: Dad!
Alice: Yeah, get out.
Ellen: It’s really cute.
Bex: Um, Carla is watching all this too, so it’s not just Eddie. Carla is there. So she ushers Eddie out of the room, and they go to the kitchen to debrief. And, um, Eddie’s like completely confused about the, the sudden 180, [00:46:00] um, from Chris. And Carla goes, “I think that, um, there might be a crush situation going on.”
And Eddie’s like, “Wow, a crush. I mean, that’s great, but why hasn’t he said anything to me?” And, um, Carla says, “Oh, you’re in a hurry to give dating advice?” And Carla. I mean, damn.
Ellen: That’s harsh, girl.
Bex: True, but harsh.
Ellen: And also, why would he say anything to you, Dad? Like
Alice: Yeah …
Ellen: kids never open up about stuff like that.
Bex: Not to their parents, especially-
Ellen: Not to their parents
Bex: … not to Eddie, who can’t date to save himself. Um, Eddie is hurt because he thought that he and Chris were beyond the keeping secrets. Um, and then Carla has, says this line of dialogue which makes absolutely no sense, but it’s gotta bring it back to the theme, which is, um, “Sometimes talking about your dreams makes it seem all too real. Sometimes the [00:47:00] fantasy is better than the reality.” Like, ugh, okay.
Ellen: Hmm. Don’t know how that re- relates really to whatever’s happening with Chris, but okay.
Bex: I think a c- they’re equating a crush to a fantasy Which is really weird considering what else happens in this episode.
Ellen: Okay.
Bex: Anyway.
Ellen: I can’t remember. Um, anyway.
Bex: Oh, I’m, I’m comparing, like, having a crush is like, um, like you’re fantasizing about women and then we lead onto the incel character who, you know- Mm. Fantasizing about women but for all the wrong reasons. Yeah. Probably because he had a crush and it went bad and who knows?
Ellen: Yeah.
Bex: Anyway. So because Chim and Maddie can’t find a house, they are trying to make do with the one-bedroom apartment. And instead of going, “Hey, why don’t we give Jee the bedroom,” ’cause, you know, that would make sense, [00:48:00] um, they decide to create Jee a bedroom in the open plan living room, which is right next to the kitchen and the front door.
Alice: Yeah. I mean, there’s no r-
Ellen: Oh, so what happens here
Alice: … not really anywhere else to put her.
Bex: But put her in the bedroom, and they buy a Murphy bed, and they sleep in the living room.
Alice: Why would they sleep in the living room? The kid doesn’t need privacy. It’s not even two yet.
Ellen: Well, then they can at least shut the door and h- she can sleep while they’re, you know, watching TV or whatever.
Bex: Doing stuff. Yeah. Anyway.
Ellen: Um, hopefully they find a place soon so they won’t have to do this for long.
Bex: Yes, because it’s a dismal failure because Maddie and Chim work such weird hours. They’re coming and going when Jee is supposed to be asleep, and they end up waking her up constantly. Um, and that’s it. That’s the entire scene.
Ellen: Mm-hmm.
Bex: And then we go to, um, Athena and Hen filling out lotto tickets.
Alice: Yeah, this is weird. I also checked out of this scene, so I [00:49:00] have no idea why they were, like, wh- what, wh- why-
Ellen: Oh, there wasn’t much to it anyway.
Alice: Yeah … yeah, why was this in it?
Bex: I don’t know.
Ellen: Uh, because-
Alice: It doesn’t, I was like, “Oh, are they gonna, like, win the lotto?” No. Nothing.
Ellen: No, Athena’s just talking about fantasy stuff, and then-
Bex: Yeah …
Ellen: at the end she just says stuff about May. That’s it.
Alice: That’s weird.
Bex: Yeah. I mean, there’s some cute moments because apparently Hen i- it’s not, they’re not just filling out their own lotto tickets. Apparently the entire station does lotto tickets.
Rather than you, like, buying one ticket and everyone pitching in, they’re all buying their own tickets. Um, and Hen is tasked with filling them all out. Um, and Athena asks what Bobby’s numbers are that he plays. So we learn, um, May and Harry’s birthdays because those are the numbers that he plays. Not, like, his own kids’.
He plays- No … May and Harry’s.
Ellen: That’s a, it’s a, like why can’t they be bothered to fill out their own lottery ticket? Like-
Bex: I don’t know.
Ellen: Why is Hen-
Alice: [00:50:00] I, yeah, I don’t, I don’t understand any of this. I, yeah.
Ellen: Oh, anyway.
Bex: It’s, it’s so stu- and then the, the kicker is that she’s going, “Okay, these two numbers are May’s birthday, these two numbers Harry birthday,” and then the next two numbers Athena’s expecting it to be her birthday, but it’s actually, um, the year that the Minnesota Twins won the World Series Which I’m guessing is baseball?
Hockey? I don’t know Hmm Um, but it pisses Athena off
Ellen: Basketball? No, I don’t know.
Bex: I don’t really take Bobby to be a basketball guy.
Ellen: Hmm.
Bex: And I don’t know that Minnesota would be that good at basketball. Uh, Minnesota Twins. Are they an actual team is the next thing. Yeah, I think, um- Uh, baseball.
Alice: Yeah.
Bex: It’s baseball. Um- ‘
Alice: Cause isn’t there a scene in … Like, a line in Supernatural where Dean does something with the Minnesota Twins and it sounds like- No, [00:51:00]
Bex: not the Minne- It’s not the Minnesota Twins-
Ellen: No, that’s the, um-
Bex: … but it’s definitely the, the twins. Cartwright twins?
Ellen: Cartwright twins.
Alice: Cartwright, yeah.
Ellen: Yeah, yeah, that’s right.
Alice: And it sounds like- And it’s- … like you think that the … Like, you think in first glance, you’re like, “Oh yeah, he’s done it with, like, two girls,” like just some twins
Bex: And then you find out the Cartwright Twins is a baseball team
Alice: And then it’s a, like, a baseball team. Yeah.
Bex: Yeah.
Ellen: Oh, some great fics came out of that one.
Bex: Um, the other really frustrating thing with this scene is that they tal- is that they start talking about what they’re gonna do with the money, like their fantasies if they, um, are go- if they win them.
Ellen: If they win, yeah.
Bex: And Athena sort of jokingly says that … ‘Cause she’s got all these altruistic things she’s gonna do with her money, but, um, Harry would probably wanna buy a spaceship.
And Hen goes, “Oh, I was gonna buy a spaceship for Karen so that she could circle around Earth.”
Alice: Yeah.
Bex: And I got mad all over again.
Alice: Yeah. Aw. I did too. Poor Karen. [00:52:00]
Bex: Um, and then we get the segue to also what would May do. She would probably like … Would she buy Twitter? ‘Cause this was, like, the around the time that Elon bought Twitter.
Um- Mm.
Alice: Yeah, this is a we- And then- Like, it, it, it’s weird
Bex: Yeah, and they segue to-
Ellen: It was a weird reference
Bex: Uh, I think it’s just they’re trying to get it towards May’s storyline, where they end up s- The th- the, the gist of it is that she’s, Athena is worried that she’s not fitting in in college because she has
She’s different from the college girls because she has all this life experience. Um, but she has to learn that her life experience is not a detriment, it’s her superpower
Alice: Mm-hmm.
Bex: So then we cut to May and Darius. Um, they’ve been on a campus tour. Darius takes her back to the frat house. It’s, it’s like it’s not a frat house, but I’m just calling it a frat house ’cause it’s a bunch of college guys living together, even if it’s not like an official Greek, um, community.
Ellen: Fraternity.
Bex: [00:53:00] Yeah. Um, and one of his roommates knows May. So I’m, I’m thinking that Hiro knew-
Ellen: Yeah, he must have been at school with them.
Bex: Yeah. So like this, so when she was dating Darius, she also met Hiro. So he recognizes her, they’re catching up, it’s all good. And while they’re catching up, one of the other roommates like walks in.
May is kind of standing in the doorway at this point, and this guy just walks up and literally stops right behind her. Doesn’t even try to go around her, and he looks horrified that there is a female in his way.
Alice: How dare he.
Bex: And literally says-
Alice: Ugh.
Bex: “Who brought her?”
Alice: Yep.
Bex: And then kind of walks around her like she’s infectious. Yep. And goes and sits down.
Ellen: Ugh, no more YouTube for you, my friend.
Bex: But I think it’s really weird because it looks [00:54:00] like he lives there, but if this is where…
Ellen: No, he does live there with them. Darius like introduces everybody.
Alice: Yeah, Darius lives there.
Bex: Yeah, but he-
Ellen: And well he’s staying there at the moment
Bex: … he looks at this guy and he says, “But he didn’t catch his name.” So has he like been living here but he’s never met Eric before?
Ellen: Yeah, well isn’t he just staying there at the moment because his parents didn’t want to, him to stay with them?
Bex: Yeah, but like how long have you-
Ellen: So maybe he’s just never met Eric before …
Bex: but yeah, it’s, it sets up the weirdness and like he sort of tries to introduce himself to Eric with the whole like, “Oh hey, I didn’t catch your name,” and Eric’s like, “No you didn’t.” Okay.
Ellen: Yeah, and now I’m leaving from my own home where I pay rent. It’s like, well fuck you then, buddy. Like Darius is nice about it. He’s like, “Oh, he must be having a day.”
Alice: I think, yep, yep, a, a day.
Bex: That’s what we’re calling it.
Ellen: Mm-hmm.
Bex: Um, so now that we’ve met Eric, um, [00:55:00] we are going back to the grownups who are on a call. We don’t know what call- Yes … ’cause it doesn’t matter. It’s the lead
Ellen: no, they’re naturally discussing their, um, per- personal lives while they’re on the way
Bex: Well, they’re discussing Christopher’s personal life, ’cause apparently Eddie has told them everything.
Ellen: Yeah. Poor Chris. Well, they, they’re finished on a call, so they’re just getting back into the truck. Uh- Yeah … apparently Buck had his first crush on his kindergarten teacher.
Alice: Not surprised.
Ellen: Uh-huh.
Bex: Um, and as he’s having this conversation they’re all getting back into the engine. Um- … Buck’s closing up all of the compartments.
They get in and it pulls out. Um, but as it’s pulling out the camera pulls up and we see that there are two people, like, hiding on top of the engine. Mm. And they’re very excited because they’re about [00:56:00] to live their fantasy.
Alice: Which is apparently having sex on top of a fire truck.
Bex: Is it, do you think it’s specifically a moving fire truck, or would they have been happy if it was stationary?
Ellen: I don’t know, but they get very excited when the lights start going.
Alice: Yeah, I think it must be a moving one.
Bex: Also, why are the lights going if they’re leaving the call?
Alice: No, no, ’cause they start going to another call.
Bex: No, but not yet. They’re just leaving the call and while they’re on route they get another call.
Ellen: The lights aren’t going at the start. No, no the lights- Yeah … don’t go back on until after they get the call to go somewhere else.
Bex: No, no-
Ellen: But they’ve never even get to that place
Bex: … the lights and sirens are going as they pull out from this call with these guys on top, ’cause that’s why they’re getting so excited. It’s … Anyway.
Alice: No. No, no, no. I’m pr- Hang on.
Bex: Look it up.
Alice: I am. I just have to do everything one-handed at the moment so it’s very hard to type, because Hudson is demanding head scratches.
Bex: Oh.
Ellen: Aw.
Alice: Um, okay, hang on. [00:57:00] He, he has a very hard life. You don’t understand.
Bex: I mean, this isn’t the first time that they have had lights and sirens going when the engine leaves the scene for, like, for drama reasons. It’s just, that’s, that’s not, like, the lights and sirens-
Alice: Oh, I forgot. This is the scene where Buck does the little twirl when he’s closing- Yes … the thing.
Bex: He’s twirling around-
Ellen: Oh, yeah
Bex: … as he closes all of the compartments.
Alice: He’s so cute.
Ellen: Yeah, that was cute. I like that.
Alice: He does a little spin. It’s on, um, it’s at the start of one of my favorite Buck fan videos too. They, okay, yeah, their lights and sirens are going as they pull away
Bex: Thank you
Alice: But then they’re not when they come back after the ad break
Bex: When we come back from commercial, they’ve turned their lights off.
Alice: So, yeah.
Bex: Yes.
Alice: Um-
Bex: But then they turn them back on when they get the call about the-
Alice: And that’s when they get all excited, though.
Bex: Yes. So they are, like, getting it on on top of the engine.
Alice: Oh.
Bex: In the cab- Yeah … um, everyone is talking about their sort of first crushes and their first kisses. [00:58:00] When Hen, Hen kicks us off talking about she had her first kiss in sixth grade, uh, with Ricardo Sanchez. Um, the kiss was terrible, but it also sort of resolved for her that she was kissing the wrong Sanchez kid, and she was much more interested in his sister. Um-
Ellen: And Eddie’s like-
Bex: And Eddie’s like-
Ellen: “Wait, wait, wait, wait. Christopher isn’t kissing anyone.” And the others are like, “Really?”
Bex: Buck gives him a, like, a are you sure about that kind of look, and Eddie’s like, “He’s not.” Buck’s like, “Okay, sure, whatever.” Yep,
Alice: mm-hmm.
Ellen: If you say so.
Alice: Buck’s like, “Yeah, I never kissed anyone at that age. Ahem.”
Bex: And they, they just start piling on, you know, like, “Wait till he, you know, he starts shaving.” “Before long someone’s gonna be calling you Grandpa.” And Eddie’s like, “That’s it. I’m not talking to any of you anymore. I’m only talking to Carla.” Which is when-
Ellen: Well, I mean, you’re the one who brought it up in the first place. [00:59:00] That, like-
Bex: Exactly.
Ellen: I guess. Because how would anyone else know about it otherwise? Oh, it’s fun.
Bex: Um, so then they get the call about a storage fire. Um, so they put the lights and sirens on and they start, um, heading off towards the storage center. Um, the, our thrill-seekers on top start getting sort of really, really into it, um, to the point where things start thumping and bumping, and the 118 inside the engine can hear something thumping and bumping.
Um, which they assume that just Buck hasn’t closed the compartments properly and something’s just rolling around loose, or the, the doors are banging, and they’re all very like-
Alice: And, and Buck’s like, “No, no, I know I turn, I, I know I locked the things because I did a little twirl when I did it.”
Bex: I did all my twirl.
Alice: Yep.
Bex: Like-
Ellen: So cute
Bex: Bobby takes them at their word and s- and tells, um, the driver, who we never see at this point, um, [01:00:00] to… He magically somehow knows that there’s construction, um, so he tells the driver to change the r- the route that they’re taking so they have to do a really sharp left turn. Um, but nobody warned the thrill-seekers on top of the engine and, uh, the guy goes flying.
Ellen: Yeah. He lands on the ground. Luckily, the guy, the people inside the, the engine actually realize what’s happened. ‘Cause otherwise they would’ve just kept going.
Bex: I love that you’re also correcting yourself here. Yeah,
Ellen: well, you know, I don’t wanna disappoint Bobby.
Alice: Can’t, can’t, can’t piss off Bobby.
Bex: No. Uh, it’s lucky that the truck that, the engine that they were in has paramedics, so the, you know, the param- they were immediately on scene able to assist.
Ellen: Yeah.
Bex: Um, but while the paramedics are doing that, um, Buck and Eddie are kind of looking around going like, “Where the fuck did this guy come from?” Because as Buck says, “Unless the song was based in truth, I don’t think it’s ever actually raining men.”[01:01:00]
Ellen: I love that.
Bex: Ed just looks at him going, “What the fuck?”
Ellen: Oh, I laughed hard
Alice: yeah, it was great.
Bex: Eddie’s like, he can’t have fallen from the sky, but something makes him turn around and he can see the th- the, the woman sort of peering over the top of the engine.
Ellen: Oh yeah, they find the wom- the woman, yeah.
Bex: So they then, like, climb up the side of the, of the rig and she’s, like, clinging and sort of pressed against the roof so that, like, “Oh, you can’t see me, I can’t see you,” kind of thing.
Um, yeah.
Ellen: Yeah, so then Bobby’s getting up her after that. Like- Yeah … “What were you doing?” Apparently they just always fantasized about having sex on top of a firetruck.
Alice: Sure.
Bex: And Buck’s like, “Oh, hey, like Backdraft.”
Alice: Um, yeah, I don’t know what Backdraft is, but sounds like-
Ellen: Wasn’t that the movie that they were watching on, in the bar in, like-
Bex: Yes
Ellen: Peru?
Bex: Yes. Yes.
Ellen: Yeah. So obviously he’s remembered that all this time.
Alice: Oh, that’s really funny. Yeah. So it’s, it actually was a seminal im- influence on Buck’s life.
Ellen: Yeah, [01:02:00] that’s why he became a firefighter in the first place.
Alice: Bobby’s like, “That has to be the dumbest, most dangerous and dumbest fantasy I’ve ever heard of. And it’s not a truck, it’s an engine.” And Um, meanwhile Bobby’s making a mental note to, um, tell Athena about this later ’cause-
Bex: Yes.
Ellen: Yeah, it’s-
Alice: Just not while it’s moving
Ellen: … kind of hilarious when you’re not actually really mad about it
Alice: And he’ll call it an engine. Yeah.
Bex: Um, so fun story for the listeners. Ellen was watching, uh, the episode and sort of reacting in the group chat, and she sort of went, “These guys are gonna have sex on top of the firetruck.”
And I, having seen the episode and having known what Bobby was gonna say, I typed back and went, “It’s an engine, not a truck.” And she said, “Oh, okay. I’ve, that’s so funny you’re being so pedantic. Oh my God, Bobby actually says that.”
Alice: Oh, you’re just being Bobby.
Ellen: Yes. I was like, “Is she being serious right now?” like
Bex: Yes.
Ellen: It’s a truck? Okay.
Bex: Yeah. And then I will confess to everyone listening that [01:03:00] after Bobby said, “It’s an engine, not a truck,” I then went back and did, like find and replace through my notes for every time I said truck and replaced it with engine.
Ellen: Well, we can’t disappoint Dad.
Bex: I … Nope. Okay, so.
Ellen: That was like a, a completely pointless scene, but kind of funny I guess. Like a, okay.
Bex: It had funny elements.
Alice: At least it’s funny. Yeah, exactly.
Bex: The 118 part of that were funny, like the conversations. You know I love a good in the back of, in the, um, in the back of the engine kind of conversations that everyone’s having.
Ellen: Yes.
Bex: They’re always fun.
Ellen: The, the banter.
Bex: Yes, we love the banter.
Ellen: All right, go back to May.
Bex: Do we have to? Not that I don’t like May. Oh. Just this storyline’s so bad.
Alice: Yeah, this storyline’s just shit.
Ellen: It’s annoying. Um, Darius isn’t home yet, and May has gone … He- she’s there to pick him up. Uh, she’s there to “scoop him” apparently. I guess [01:04:00] that’s code for pick him up.
Bex: Sure. We hope.
Ellen: I guess so. Um, so Darius is not home yet, so May’s just gonna hang, but Eric is there when she goes inside, and he’s like, “You again. Why are you here?” It’s like, “Okay, buddy. I’m just waiting for Darius.”
Bex: He’s also sitting in the living room, like the very public living room, with his, like black and white manifesto notebook-
Alice: Yeah
Bex: open.
Ellen: Yeah.
Bex: And then as soon as May comes in, he like shoves it into a stack of other notebooks and then sort of fidgets with the stack so it’s completely hidden. I’m like, “Buddy, if … Like don’t write in your manifesto in the living room. Like that’s a bedroom thing.”
Ellen: Yeah, don’t be suspicious.
Bex: Don’t be sus- No. I’m not gonna
Alice: Don’t be suspicious. Don’t be suspicious.
Bex: And g- like I get that either it’s for the drama, the storyline doesn’t happen if this part doesn’t happen, but it’s just, it’s so stupid.
Alice: So stupid. This is [01:05:00] also the storyline that I totally forgot existed. Yes. And when my, um, ex was trying to tell me about, I was like, “That didn’t happen.” And she’s like, “No, no. Like this happens.”
Bex: Unfortunately it did.
Alice: And I’m like, “No, I’m pretty sure it doesn’t.” Uh, fun fact: when you go into like May’s storylines, um, on the wiki, they- it doesn’t exist there either, so no one considers this notable at all.
Bex: Oh my God. Okay.
Ellen: Okay. Well, she was like the main kind of player in it, so that’s a shame.
Alice: Yep.
Ellen: She tries to start over with him basically, like, you know, must … She tries to make conversation with him. “Oh, it must be hard to study, you know, this, there’s so many people living here.” And, um, apparently Eric isn’t a student And he spouts some bullshit about there’s no… Like, “the post-secondary education is a myth propagated to keep young people too distracted to see what’s really there, and what’s really there is nothing.” So [01:06:00]
Bex: And swallowed the red pill
Ellen: Ugh. And then when she-
Alice: Yeah
Ellen: … is asking questions about it, he’s just like, “You wouldn’t understand.” ‘
Bex: Cause you’re a girl
Ellen: And he just gets up and storms off. Yeah.
Bex: But as he gets up and storms off, he knocks the books, the stack of books off the coffee table, and somehow the black manifesto notebook defies gravity and all known laws of physics and flies backwards and, like, around and under the coffee table when the rest of the stack of books, like, falls over forwards the way it should.
Alice: Yep. The manifesto’s a magical manifesto that basically flies into May’s-
Ellen: Magical manifesto!
Alice: … backpack and zips itself back again.
Bex: Um- Yeah … because, um, knocks, uh, Eric knocks all the books over, stomps off to his bedroom, slams the door.
May, um, sits down at the, on the couch, and rather than getting her phone out like a normal teenager would do, [01:07:00] she’s, like, trying to read the magazines and books on the coffee table, and then her eye spies the magical manifesto, um, and goes, “Oh, this looks private.” And decides to read that instead. Yeah. Like, she’s such her mother’s daughter.
Ellen: It’s, it’s very nosy of her.
Bex: Which of course is titled “My Fantasy”, and is all about-
Alice: Obviously
Bex: … killing women.
Alice: Which just sounds-
Bex: essentially
Alice: … like the name of a Scrubs episode.
Bex: It’s, there is one called that too.
Alice: I was literally just trying to Google.
Ellen: I mean, he, he couldn’t be any more obvious with this if he, like, painted a big, like, poster and stuck it on the wall saying, “I am an, a, like, sociopath.”
Alice: Yeah.
Bex: Yeah.
Ellen: Anyway, May of course, um, rings her mom immediately. Well, she leaves-
Bex: Of course
Ellen: … the house first and then rings her mom.
Bex: Grabs the notebook, leaves the house, calls Athena, um, in a [01:08:00] panic, because she’s convinced that Eric has a plan to commit a mass, mass casualty event.
Ellen: Well, it kind of looks that way. He’s written some nasty things in his little book.
Alice: Um-
Ellen: He’s got a plan
Alice: … yeah, it’s a bit fucked. Uh, I just like that she says at the end, she’s just like, “Oh, I know I saw something, so I needed to say something.” And, like, obviously that’s the big police thing, but-
Bex: Yeah …
Alice: I, um, it, like, I’ve been watching Brooklyn Nine-Nine, and so all I could think is the song that CJ makes up.
Bex: Okay. You wanna-
Alice: Haven’t seen Brooklyn Nine-Nine? It’s literally just-
Bex: Hum a few bars?
Alice: Um, so he’s like, the, there’s a, um, a police captain that they get in as, like, a temporary captain, and he’s useless, like, absolutely useless. Um, but he’s funny, which is great. He’s also in Veronica Mars. Anyway, he, um, He says to one of the detectives, he’s just like, “Oh, if you see something, say something. Oh, that’d be a great saying.”
And they’re like, “It is, yeah, [01:09:00] okay.” And then he’s just like, “If you see something, say something. Come on and party tonight.” And so then for the rest of the sa- the season, whenever they’re, like, doing it, they’re just like, “If you see something, say something. Come on and party. Goddamn catchy song.”
Bex: Okay.
Alice: So she’s like, “I saw something, so I did to say something,” and I’m like, “Come on and party tonight.”
Bex: Athena’s not quite on board with this because she’s, she concedes that it is worrisome and they probably do need to keep an eye on Eric, but nothing that May has shared from the notebook is an actual concrete plan to do something. Um, so she just tells May, “Look, you just need to, uh, steer clear of him. Darius can come stay with us.” And May has gone, “Oh shit, I forgot about Darius.”
Alice: Yeah. Whoops.
Bex: Who has, at this point-
Ellen: Meanwhile
Bex: … arrived home.
Ellen: Darius has got home.
Alice: I, I would be, I would [01:10:00] be laughing at her more if I hadn’t forgotten about Hudson on Wednesday.
Ellen: Aw.
Alice: He was with my mum, it’s fine. But Mum was going out for dinner, and I specifically said, “Oh yeah, Mum’s going out for dinner so no one’ll be home. It’s fine.” And then Mum called me while I was buying dinner to go, “Are y- are you coming to get your dog?” And I’m like Yep. Definitely remembered that he existed. Uh, yep, sure will
Ellen: Whoops.
Alice: Hi Bubba, I love you, I promise.
Bex: Okay, no but, like, just to add onto the, um, how unrealistic or how stupid this scene was. So she remembers Darius, and then decides that the best thing to do is to text him.
Alice: Yep.
Bex: Not, you know-
Alice: In capital letters …
Bex: call him.
Alice: Nup
Bex: And someone-
Alice: Um, no she’s, she’s Gen Z.
Bex: You know what?
Alice: She, we, we don’t, like, she doesn’t call
Bex: Except she was on the phone with him before she went in to meet Eric. Like, she was literally calling him to go [01:11:00] “Hey, where are you?”
Alice: Yeah. And she was also on the phone to her mother.
Bex: So if she’d been texting Darius, like, “Where are you?” And then he texted back like, “I’m on my way, go inside and wait for me,” then yes, I could understand why she was texting him later. But the fact that she was on the phone with him means that she’s okay with being on the phone, and he’s okay with being on the phone, so she should’ve just fucking called him.
But no, they needed the text to come in because as we see, Darius decides to put his phone down on the coffee table where every man and their dog can see the screen to help Eric, who’s ripping the living room apart trying to find his manifesto, so that when May’s text comes in, which is like, “Eric is dangerous. Do not go inside. Mayday, mayday, mayday,” Eric sees this and freaks the fuck out.
Alice: Yeah. Obviously.
Bex: And takes Darius hostage with his screwdriver.
Alice: Yeah, with his screwdriver,
Bex: which- Which he w- he found under the couch cushions.
Alice: Yep, ’cause that’s what’s in a bro house, you know? [01:12:00]
Bex: Yeah.
Ellen: I thought it was on the coffee table.
Bex: It’s-
Ellen: It doesn’t matter. He’s got-
Bex: It could have been on the coffee table. The fact is, he’s meant there is a screwdriver where a screwdriver should not normally be.
Ellen: Yeah. And they go, like, I think Darius tries to get away, but then Eric just punches him and, like, they-
Bex: Oh yeah, because the-
Ellen: … locks him in the room
Bex: the text comes in and they both see, like, “Do not go inside the house, Eric is dangerous,” and Darius just goes, “Uh, I gotta go.” Yeah. Dude. Now is not the time to be polite. Just fucking go.
Alice: Just run, yeah. Jesus Christ.
Ellen: Poor Darius. So- He’s trying, trying to talk him down, and the guy’s like, “No, your girlfriend’s got my book, and na, na.”
Alice: And he’s like … Oh, no, I think he says, “Your girlfriend’s a bitch and bought, and got the book,” and she’s, and Darius is like, “Don’t call him, call her that,” and I’m like, “What, her girlf- is [01:13:00] your girlfriend?”
Ellen: Anyway, May actually tries to call Darius, and Eric answers the phone.
Bex: No, no. Um, Eric calls her on Darius’s phone Because she’s trying to call Darius, he won’t answer
Alice: Oh, so now she’s w- yeah, now she’s worked out how to make a phone call.
Bex: And, and she’s freaking out and Athena’s trying to talk her down, it’s like, “You know, maybe, maybe Darius didn’t even get there.” Um, May’s phone starts vibrating, it’s Darius. She answers, and it’s actually Eric. Yeah. And he wants to exchange the book for Darius.
Ellen: But it’s too late, ’cause the police already know about him.
Bex: Yep, and now that he’s got Darius hostage, it’s escalated. And Captain Maynard has taken time out of her busy schedule to come down, um-
Alice: She has. They got her for this episode, which is nice.
Bex: Yay.
Alice: Um, but she put in a request for HRT, and I’m just not sure how hormone replacement therapy is gonna help in a situation like this.
Bex: Look, a woman of a certain age-
Alice: Um, but SWAT’s [01:14:00] also coming, so. Apparently-
Ellen: She’s like, “I’m feeling a bit, a bit hot. I need a- Someone get some HRT down here.”
Bex: Things are getting a little bit dry, so.
Alice: Athena’s like, “I’ve shut d- I’ve shut down the streets, but also I’m having a hot flash.” “It’s fine, I’ve put in a request for HRT.” Jesus Christ.
Bex: And anyway, so th-
Ellen: Apparently they decided that, uh, he, the last step of the plan was escape, and he was gonna escape to Mexico. But, uh, that doesn’t help them because he knows the police are there, so. But, and then Elaine says, “I would feel better if he was talking to someone who’d had training,” and Athena’s like, “Oh, he is.”
So, like May is now the hostage negotiator person.
Bex: Yes.
Alice: Yeah, ’cause May’s had so much experience being a hostage negotiator from her time in dispatch.
Bex: Dispatch. And here’s the thing-
Alice: Sure. Yep …
Bex: May… I am apparently not a teenage [01:15:00] boy incel misogynist, um-
Ellen: Really?
Alice: You’re not?
Bex: Apparently not, because if someone was talking to me with the tone of voice and the way that May is talking to Eric, I would probably try to kill her too.
She’s just like, “Uh, Eric, I am so sorry that I stole your property. I know that’s so upsetting for you.” I’m like-
Ellen: She does sound really condescending.
Alice: She is super condescending.
Bex: Yes. But then maybe-
Alice: It’s so condescending …
Bex: maybe that’s what you need to hear when you’re, like, a 16, 18, 19, God, I don’t even know how old he is boy who thinks women are inferior. Maybe it’s like music to his ears. I don’t know. It just sounds really condescending.
Ellen: Mm-hmm Well, he’s, he says that girls like you are all liars, and he carries on for a little while with that shit. And then, um, May manages to tell hi- like ask him, “What do you want people to know about [01:16:00] you?” And he ke- he goes on with some more crap about the mainstream media and blah, blah, blah.
It goes on for way too long-
Bex: Basically she-
Ellen: … this scene anyway …
Bex: she’s just trying to keep him talking. Athena wants her to keep, wants May to keep her talking, keep him talking even longer so that SWAT, um, has time to get there. And they do this weird thing where May’s like, where Athena tells May, “We can’t risk going in there if we don’t know where he is.”
And May’s like, “Well, what if we did know, if we could get him by a window?” Which then has absolutely no bearing on what happens next.
Alice: Yeah.
Ellen: No, he does go near a window, but it doesn’t help.
Bex: But it doesn’t do anything, ’cause when you think about them when they say like, “Get him near a window,” it’s because someone’s gonna try and take a shot.
Ellen: Well, it was-
Bex: And like as soon as he’s-
Ellen: The reason they want him near the window is so they know where he is in the house. ‘Cause at the moment they don’t know that he’s shut in a room. They haven’t [01:17:00] seen him.
Bex: I don’t know. It just, it seemed really weird. I kept expecting like, we’ll get him near the window, which is like May starts talking to him about SWAT is here, you know, like your time is up. And-
Alice: But then SWAT actually are there, so like it’s not even a misdirect
Bex: Yeah, it’s, it’s so weird. She’s like, “SWAT’s here.” And Eric’s like, “No, I would have heard them.” And she’s like, “Pfft, idiot. They don’t come in with lights and sirens. They come in cold. Ask Darius. He knows what I’m talking about.” And Darius is like, “Yeah, May used to work with n- with dispatch.
She knows what she’s talking about.” So then Eric goes to the window to check to see if SWAT is there, which it actually is, but then it’s Athena that … Athena doesn’t even get a chance to do anything because Darius makes a break for it, runs out of the bedroom. Eric tries to chase him straight into Athena’s arms pretty much. It’s just-
Ellen: Yeah, I don’t know why Athena is in there and not, like, letting SWAT do their job, for example, but anyway.
Bex: Because it’s Athena, and Athena’s gotta be the hero. It’s, like, in Angela’s contract.
Ellen: Yeah. [01:18:00] And then Eric just breaks down into a pissy little baby and just starts crying.
Bex: Pretty much.
Alice: Oh, um, just quickly, I did actually have a note. Apparently HRT-
Bex: Ooh
Alice: … is Hostage Response Team. Um, it’s not hormone replacement therapy.
Ellen: Okay. Good to know.
Bex: I don’t know. I thought, I thought ours was better.
Alice: Just in case we were all confused, you know.
Ellen: Yep.
Alice: Anyway, uh, we move on to-
Ellen: Anyway, that’s the end of that scene, ’cause like-
Alice: Yep …
Ellen: I mean, May, May and Darius have a cute little, make a- like, get back together kind of scene at the end. Darius is, like, all heart eyes because May saved his life, and May’s like, “I’m just doing my job.” ‘
Alice: Cause women can be the hero.
Bex: Only in fantasies, though, remember?
Ellen: Mm.
Bex: But it’s … Like, I under- I understand that the whole … Like, if we’re trying to link it to that scene with Hen and Athena, where, which was the segue into May’s [01:19:00] storyline, they’re trying to explain that, you know, May needs to learn that her life as a dispatcher is, like, her superpower.
But they don’t close that loop. Like, they don’t bring that part up where May goes, “Oh, maybe my training does help. Maybe I am good.” Like, it’s just-
Alice: Yeah, no, it’s weird …
Bex: the, the only thing was we get is, like, “I was just doing my job, my old job.” Like-
Alice: Yep.
Ellen: And then she, like, just kind of gets all giggly and, like, smoochy with Darius.
Bex: Smoochy, smoochy with the boys.
Ellen: And that’s it.
Bex: Yep.
Ellen: Yeah. Well, we get to go back to the Ren Faire.
Bex: Cause we get, like, the next five minutes is just catching up on all of the characters that we saw throughout the episode. Yeah. So we go back to the-
Ellen: I wonder if they cut s- they cut, like … Well, we s- thought before they cut, like, part of the montage stuff, but, like, it just seems like this bit, end bit goes on for longer than it should. I don’t know.
Bex: It does a little bit. It drags a bit. Um, [01:20:00] so I think the, the Ren Faire must be a permanent thing because I don’t know how much time has elapsed since we went at the beginning of the episode, but Hen has brought Denny and Buck to the Ren Faire.
Ellen: Yeah, both of her sons.
Alice: Yeah, her two kids.
Ellen: Yeah.
Bex: It’s so random. Why is she bringing Buck? Like, I could understand if it was like Buck and Eddie were bringing Christopher to the ren faire.
Alice: Yeah, but it’s Hen and-
Bex: But why Hen and Buck?
Alice: Like they had Denny on set still from the lab explosion, so they were like, “Oh, eh, just go to the ren faire, kid.”
Well
Ellen: obviously Buck wanted to go to the ren faire. Like-
Alice: Yeah. Hen, Hen’s like, “Oh, I think I’m gonna take Denny to that ren faire this weekend.” And Buck’s like, “Oh, fuck yeah. Well, count me in.” And Hen’s like, “Yeah, okay.”
Bex: Like not her wife?
Alice: Not her wife.
Ellen: Eddie and Chris are busy going to the dance, so they can’t.
Alice: Yeah. That’s it.
Bex: But the dance is, is at night. They could totally do ren faire in the morning and then the dance at night.
Alice: You can’t [01:21:00] tire out Christopher.
Bex: It’s, it’s just-
Alice: I, I do love that-
Bex: It’s so weird
Alice: … Denny’s just like, “I thought this place was gonna be lame, but it’s kinda cool.” And Hen’s like, “Since when do I take you to lame places?” And D- Denny goes, “The dentist, the doctor, and school.”
It’s like, is that all, the only places you go? Well, like-
Ellen: You thought the ren faire was gonna be like the dentist?
Alice: Yeah.
Ellen: That’s sad.
Bex: Like Karen, Karen takes him to work and he gets blown up, so that’s probably cool.
Ellen: Yeah.
Bex: You know. He can’t go to work with Hen, so she gets, she takes him to the lame places. Um-
Ellen: Fair enough.
Bex: So, uh, we c- we check in with the sisters. Uh, this, the, the little one, um, is apparently-
Ellen: Hang on. Not before, um, Buck sees the swords
Bex: No, no. Before Buck sees the swords. And then we cut to the sisters, and then we go back to the swords. Okay.
Ellen: Yeah, we go back to the swords. Um, it’s just that Buck says- I was- … “Oh, look, swords,” and I’m like, “Oh, no.”
Who, who let Buck near the swords?
Bex: Uh, yeah, so we [01:22:00] check in with the sisters. Dottie is the little s- um, the little sister, we finally get her name. Um, she is getting knighted by her sister who was recovered from her, um, experience with bees. And she’s complaining because her knighting name is Dottie the Dutiful, and-
Ellen: Dottie the Dutiful
Alice: Dottie the Dutiful.
Ellen: Yeah, their parents are still nowhere to be seen. Yep.
Bex: Right?
Alice: They’re s- Yeah, they’re still orphans apparently.
Bex: But Dottie wants to be something like Dottie the Magnificent.
Ellen: Heroes come in a-
Bex: Yeah …
Ellen: all shapes and sizes.
Bex: Um, so then Buck has found the swords and wants to buy one for Jee-Yun.
Alice: Yeah, and it’s like, “Your sister’s gonna kill you.” but as Buck says-
Bex: With the sword
Alice: … that’s what, that’s what’s b- that’s what being an uncle is all about.
Bex: Mm-hmm. And then he says, “I figured it’s never too soon for her to learn that girls can be heroes, too.” Like, thanks, Buck.
Alice: Way to go, Buck. Glad that you’ve given us [01:23:00] permission to be heroes.
Bex: Just what we needed, a man to give us permission.
Alice: Yeah. Mm-hmm.
Ellen: But it’s okay ’cause Hen’s gonna, like, kill him with a sword, so.
Bex: Yes. Thank God.
Ellen: Thanks, Hen. They have a cute little sword fight.
Bex: Well, is it a sword fight? Buck spends most of it running away. He’s he, like- Yeah … grabs one of the shields and, um, defends himself and runs.
Ellen: Retreat is an important part of any sword fight.
Bex: Um, speaking of retreating, um, our office sociopath has decided to quit his job and, um, basically says to, like, the boss, “I brought you back from, from the dead. You need to write me a really good recommendation, and oh, here’s one that I’ve written previ- like, here’s one I prepared earlier. Just sign it, please.”
And so the boss does.
Alice: Yep.
Ellen: Yeah, and then he says y- [01:24:00] he, he reads it out and he’s like, “You’re a real lifesaver?” That’s what he wrote in it.
Alice: Yep. Ha ha ha.
Ellen: Why not?
Bex: Um- Ha ha … then we’ve got the, the thrill-seekers from the, the fire engine are in hospital and are apparently trying to find somewhere in the hospital to have sex, and that’s it.
Ellen: Ugh, even though the guy is still in his, um, you know, neck brace thing and-
Bex: And in a wheelchair.
Ellen: Yeah. Yeah. But, you know, that doesn’t stop you.
Bex: But his girlfriend/partner/wife has found a stethoscope and a lab coat. Mm. So they’re gonna, you know, do
Alice: All you need, baby.
Ellen: Oh, these horny fucks. Ah, insatiable.
Bex: So they, she pushes him into, like, like I think she’s kidnapped him from his, his ward- his room, and they end up in the elevator, which is, like, very Grey’s Anatomy, ’cause that’s where everyone ends up making out. I was just looking at it going, “Just be m- like, that’s so pedestrian. Like, go make out somewhere more interesting, please.”
Alice: Yeah.
Bex: Um, [01:25:00] Chim and Maddie have finally come to their senses, and it looks like Jee is now in their bedroom and they are sleeping in the living room, which is currently a movie theater.
Ellen: Oh, I thought they were in their bedroom. I don’t know I, I, I can’t … I don’t know how the, the layout of their house is, honestly. It’s like-
Bex: I think, I think they’re in the living room ’cause it’s got like the, the big entertainment unit that we’ve seen in previous episodes.
Ellen: Okay.
Bex: Um, so they’ve got Jee squished between them. She’s like mesmerized by the cartoon, sucking on like a, a fruit pouch or something. And Maddie’s like, “How long are we gonna be able to live like this?”
And Chim says, “You know, as long as we need to. But in the meantime, this is a pretty great fantasy, too.” I’m like-
Ellen: Sure …
Bex: this isn’t a fantasy, this is your reality, dude.
Alice: Yeah.
Ellen: Yeah, kinda sucks.
Bex: Like, your daughter is literally next to you and your baby mama. Like, it’s really there.
Ellen: Well, hopefully they don’t have to [01:26:00] live like that for too long. Oh, well, we’re not done yet because we have to go and see Chris at the dance. Nope. Yes.
Bex: Yep,
Alice: somehow this is still going.
Bex: Yep. Um, so Chris is at the dance. Eddie and Carla are gonna be creepy, and they’re going to order takeout and sit in Eddie’s big Fight Club Jeep and wait for the three hours before the dance is over.
Ellen: Yeah, and like watch by peeking in the windows.
Bex: Yep. I wouldn’t put it past Eddie. But I think-
Alice: Probably get a restraining order.
Bex: The actual point of the scene is that Eddie is realizing that he’s, he’s telling Carla that, you know, when you have a kid and your kid … you tell your kid is gonna be different, you think that like the normal milestones that kids go through are fantasies. But here is Christopher like going to his first school dance, and fantasy is becoming a reality.
Ellen: Aw. Yeah, and he, he thinks Carla is calling a ride home, [01:27:00] but she’s ordering the takeout.
Alice: She’s ordering takeout. Yep. Um, it’s kind of a sweet moment. It’s just like, you could go home. You don’t have to be standing out the front.
Ellen: Yeah. I don’t know how they’re gonna eat dim sum in the car though. That’s like dumplings and noodles and stuff. That’s-
Alice: Yeah …
Bex: gonna be messy. But it comes in that, like those cardboard cartons, so they’re fine.
Alice: Yeah.
Ellen: Yeah, but like yeah, still messy.
Bex: It might be if … It depends on how they eat like dumplings and noodles. ‘Cause like if I’m ordering dumplings and noodles, everything goes on the table and everyone gets to pick a little bit of them s- what they want for themselves.
Ellen: Yeah.
Bex: But maybe they are from the kind of people where like you order noodles and dumplings, and those are your noodles and dumplings, and you’re not sharing them.
So if Carla wants dumplings and Eddie wants dumplings, they do two orders of dumplings, and they just sit there and eat them straight out of the box, and they don’t share them back and forth.
Ellen: Yeah, I guess so.
Alice: I guess so.
Bex: Which is like-
Ellen: Now I want dumplings Damn it. Anyway.
Bex: [01:28:00] Um, so they’re eating dumplings. Chris is going into the dance to, you know, not dance, ’cause they never really dance at those things.
It’s like the boys are on one side of the wal- room and the girls are on the other side of the room.
Ellen: Yeah.
Bex: And never the twain shall meet.
Ellen: Um- Yeah, sometimes they talk to each other, but rarely.
Bex: Um, and back at the Bathena residence, Darius and May are making out on the patio while Athena and Bobby stare at them from the kitchen.
Ellen: Yep. They’re just cuddling on the patio. They’re not actually sucking face, are they?
Bex: They start kissing.
Ellen: Oh.
Bex: Like it’s not full on make out, but there are some smoochies.
Alice: There are some smoochies.
Ellen: Right in front of their salad?
Alice: But- Right in front of Bobby’s salad.
Bex: Apparently seeing her daughter making out with her boyfriend is Athena’s dream come true. If only because her daughter is alive to actually be making out with her boyfriend.
Alice: I guess so. Yeah. But, like, May was never in danger. [01:29:00]
Bex: No.
Ellen: No, Darius was the one who was in danger.
Alice: Literally. It’s just … Like May was just outside hanging out.
Bex: With SWAT and the hormone replacement therapy.
Ellen: So when they said like-
Alice: Yeah
Ellen: Athena fears for May’s life, was like a total lie. It wasn’t May’s life she was worried about at all.
Bex: I don’t know. And that finally is the end of the episode.
Ellen: Hey. Smoochies for everyone.
Bex: Except Christopher, ’cause Christopher’s not kissing anybody.
Ellen: Oh no. Yeah. He’s not allowed. He’s too young for kissing.
Alice: Says teen parent Eddie.
Ellen: Yeah.
Alice: He, like Eddie has this whole big thing about like, oh, you know, like there were so many things when I was told that Chris had, um, cerebral palsy, there were so many things that I thought he could never do. And it’s like what, like being a teen parent? Like what?
Ellen: Ooh, like kissing girls.
Alice: Yeah, like he’s still a human, Eddie.
He’s not allowed
Ellen: to do that. [01:30:00] All right. Well, that was certainly an episode. Yeah. I don’t know what to say about that.
Alice: It sure happened. Glad we waited three weeks to- … come back to this
Ellen: Parts of it were funny, but others were just like- Like- “Really? This is what we’re doing?”
Bex: teeny tiny parts of it, little moments within it were funny, but the actual-
Alice: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Buck looking after, Buck very impractically looking after Jee-Yun at his own house, that was cute. Uh, Buck’s little spin- Mm … when he closed the thing.
Bex: Twirl.
Alice: Very cute. Yep.
Bex: Yep. Very cute.
Ellen: I think this is another one of the episodes where the whole thing was sort of saved by the acting and the directing. Like, it, the storylines were dumb, but- Yeah.
Bex: Yes …
Ellen: All right. Well, what have we got coming up?
Alice: Look, it, it’s not the worst episode, it’s just Boring …
Bex: no, I think next week might be heading in the worst episode direction. Oh, no. Um, it’s, at least we’re, we’re on the, we’re on the downward slope here.
Um- Yay. Because next week, [01:31:00] um, the Santa Ana winds bring a variety of weirder than usual emergencies as the 118 respond to a family dog retrieving a severed hand and a young woman sleep-driving into the station. Bobby worries about his AA sponsor, which I fucking hate this storyline.
Alice: Ugh.
Bex: Denny questions Karen and Hen about his biological parents, which I also hate this fucking storyline. And Chimney thinks he’s found the perfect house for him and Maddie. I don’t hate that storyline.
Alice: We don’t hate that storyline.
Bex: That one’s kind of cool.
Alice: Yeah, no.
Bex: Um, and the episode is called “Red Flag” because it’s a- Oh … fucking parade of red flags.
Ellen: It’s just one red flag, not red flags?
Alice: Just one.
Bex: Uh, it should-
Alice: Yeah, it’s just one red flag.
Bex: It sh- I think it’s, like, one very, very big red flag to cover all of the-
Alice: It’s more like a red tent.
Bex: [01:32:00] Um, triggers, it’s a very trigger-heavy episode. We have, um, the start of the addict/rehab storylines, so the discussion of addiction and rehabilitation. Dangerous driving via sleep driving, discussion of adoption/birth parents, discussion of addiction and recovery, gore, excellent. Oh, it’s just a severed hand. That’s not so fun. Um, discussions of grief, um, Hollywood evil rehab facility.
Alice: Yeah, that checks out.
Bex: Illegal disposal of a body by burning.
Ellen: Ooh.
Bex: Uh, minor POC character death, needles, overdose, possible murder, sperm donations, and stalking.
Alice: Yay.
Ellen: Wow, that’s quite a list.
Alice: In case you were wondering if our little, um, hiatus helped us feel better about season six, it did not.
Bex: No.
Alice: Um, we are back-
Bex: Look, I was-
Alice: … and cynical as ever.
Bex: Look, I was, [01:33:00] I was excited for the misogynistic bees, and then I read what’s coming up next, and I remembered what’s coming up next, and I went, “Oh.” Yeah. Okay.
Ellen: I’m just still blissfully unaware of all of this, going, “This season hasn’t been so bad.”
Bex: And we love that for you. We love that for you.
Ellen: Maybe I’m about to discover why. Uh, this season is not the favorite.
Alice: Um, anyway, listeners, if you ever find yourself in a situation where you need to use a defib, uh, please stop performing CPR while analyzing the rhythm of the patient’s heart.
Bex: Actually, just follow the instructions, ’cause I’m pretty sure if you-
Alice: Literally, the instru- it tells you. Like- Yes … it says very clearly what to do. There’s-
Bex: Yes …
Alice: diagrams where to put the patches. It tells you exactly what to do.
Bex: It also, like the modern ones talk you through it. Yeah, they talk to you.
Alice: Like while we’ve got it work. Yeah, it’s great.
Ellen: Oh.
Bex: Talks to you.
Alice: And I think it’s got- Yeah … like a metronome thing, if I remember right, so that you can [01:34:00] like do the CPR to the beat.
Ellen: Oh, so you can actually do Staying Alive beat without-
Bex: Mm …
Ellen: getting it all wrong.
Alice: Yep. All right, tell us what you thought about this episode.
Bex: Have you been to a ren faire recently? Were you attacked by misogynistic bees?
Alice: Bex sure wasn’t.
Ellen: I hope not. Surely that was just a localized thing. I don’t think bees generally like to go to ren fairs. You never know.
Alice: You never know. They might really enjoy it.
Ellen: You can get mead and stuff there, right?
Alice: Like they’re, they’re all about queens and princesses and stuff. Yes. So they probably really like, um, you know, like ren fairs.
Ellen: Okay, yeah, maybe they do. I’d like to go to a ren faire. There’s a really big one in Brisbane, and um, every year I think that we should go to it, but it’s on the other side of the city, and the tickets actually sell out really fast, so we haven’t actually been yet. But one of these years.
Bex: Oh, you should go.
Ellen: Yeah
Alice: There was, um, one near me I think they still do it near me. Um, but like my parents wanted to go [01:35:00] and invited me and I was like, “Yeah, absolutely fucking not,” because it was in the winter. And sure enough, they were watching the jousting and got absolutely soaked and freezing and they’re like, “Yeah, nup.”
Bex: Oh.
Ellen: It’s a bad time to be out.
Alice: So Dad like called and was just like, “Yeah, you made a good choice not to go.” And I’m like, “Yeah, no shit. Think I’m stupid?” Like, yes, it absolutely sounds like something I’d be into in theory, but not in the winter, In the hills.
Ellen: Yeah, I think, uh, I’m pretty sure the medieval one is in, uh, like June or something. But June is, like, the nicest month here, so, and especially if you’re wearing, like, you know, medieval garb. You don’t wanna be out- Yes … in the summer. So, um-
Bex: Yeah, no
Ellen: … that, that works fine for us. Anyway, um, we’re, we’re still not finished. Um, please do leave us a comment on thatweewooshow.com or in Spotify or YouTube or on social media, and we’ll get back into that now that we’re posting again.
Uh, thank you for listening this week, [01:36:00] and we will talk to you next time about episode nine, which is called “Red Flag”. See you then.
Alice: Bye.
Bex: Bye.
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