6.10: In a Flash

Welcome to That Weewoo Show: a podcast where Alice, Ellen and Bex watch and discuss every episode of ABC’s TV show, 9-1-1.

In this episode we discuss episode 10 of the sixth season of 9-1-1, titled “In a Flash”.

A dry thunderstorm brings in a series of lightning strike emergencies and leaves a first responder’s life hanging in the balance. Athena and May go undercover at a rehab facility to help Bobby investigate his sponsor’s death.

Content warnings for episode 6.10:

continuation of the addict/rehab storyline, abuse of power, car accident, childbirth in the field, daddy issues, gore, Hollywood evil rehab facility, major character injury, pregnant woman and newborn at threat

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Episode Transcript

Maddie: [00:00:00] 9-1-1. What’s your emergency?

Ellen: Welcome back to That WeeWoo Show, a podcast where we watch and discuss episodes of the ABC show 9-1-1. I’m Ellen.

Alice: I’m Alice.

Bex: And I’m Bex.

Ellen: And welcome back to season six. Um, thank you to everyone who’s been listening so far and who’s shared our episodes and all those things. Um, especially a thank you to Pigeon for sending us a, a comment for this week, as they do every week pretty much.

But, um, you were asking about when we mentioned the episode, the, the, the Supernatural episode where they actually had live bees. Bex, you wanna explain what happened in … I don’t know all of the details of the [00:01:00] trivia of that.

Bex: Yeah, Alice, go for it.

Alice: Okay. So in the Supernatural episode, which is, like, what is it?

Um, season one, episode eight of Supernatural, uh, they did an episode called “Bugs”, and it was about, um, basically a plague of bugs that was taking over a town. Um, they thought it’d be a great idea to lock the two main actors in an attic with a whole bunch of bees, and they used live bees because they wanted it to look realistic.

Um, so the boys got stung. There were, like, first aid all around the place. Um, it was this really big deal because they were using live bees that could actually sting people, and they were stung. And then they got the dailies back, and you could not see the bees on the film at all. So they had to use CGI bees after all.

Ellen: Well, at least, at least they’ve learned, television has learned and and they used actual [00:02:00] CGI bees in this. Anyway, before we go on to talk about this episode 10, uh, do you wanna remind us what happened last week?

Alice: Uh, yeah. Um, they got fake bees. No. Um, last week on 9-1-1, Maddie and Chim decided to buy a not murder house, Buck found out his donation was successful, Denny sought out his biological father, and after Bobby’s sponsor was found dead in a fire, Bobby began looking into a rehab center.

Ellen: Oh, that’s right. So it was the season, the mid-season, you know, break.

Bex: It was the mid-season finale, yes. Mm-hmm. Because that aired in November and then four months later in March we get episode 10, um, in which a dry thunderstorm rolls over LA bringing in a series of lightning strike emergencies for the 118 and leaves a first responder’s life hanging in the balance.

And ooh, that’s a [00:03:00] choice of words. Okay. Athena and May go undercover at the rehab facility to help Bobby with his investigation into his sponsor’s mysterious death. Maddie dreads her parents’ visit to her and Chim’s new and unfinished house, while Chim- And he gets a surprise of his own from a visiting Albert.

And this week’s episode is called “In a Flash”, and it is the winter premiere. Uh, triggers for this week include a continuation of the addict/rehab storyline. Uh, abuse of power. Who was abusing power? Are we talking about the rehab people?

Ellen: Maybe.

Bex: Anyway.

Ellen: Athena? No, she didn’t do anything too weird in this episode.

Bex: No, she was relatively restrained this week. Anyway, we’ll leave you to ponder that one after you’ve watched the episode. Um, it also involves a car accident, childbirth in [00:04:00] the field.

Alice: Maybe it’s abuse of power from the lightning, ’cause lightning is power and she’s…

Bex: Of Zeus? Zeus is abusing his power?

Alice: Damn it, Zeus. Okay. Damn it, Thor.

Bex: Um, okay. Childbirth in the field. Uh, daddy issues, gore. W- no, it wasn’t really that gory.

Alice: It was, it was kind of gory.

Ellen: There was a lot of blood.

Bex: Eh. Um, uh, Hollywood evil rehab facility, um, major character injury, uh, pregnant woman and newborn at threat. I’m assuming that it’s the pregnant woman is also at threat, and not just the trigger warning is pregnant woman, but

Alice: I don’t know. That was pretty triggering for me. There’s too many children in the world already.

Ellen: I mean, that whole scene, I mean, we’ll get to it, but-

Bex: Mm-hmm …

Ellen: it was triggering for me just in the … It’s just how it was like [00:05:00] I was on the edge of my seat. Um, but we’re not gonna worry about thunderstorms to start with for a little bit. Uh, we’re going to go to the beach and it s- and take us back to, like, the ’90s with a bit of Weezer at the beginning of this episode.

Bex: Love Weezer.

Alice: It’s great, yeah.

Ellen: It’s … I enjoyed it.

Alice: I was singing along to the puppies.

Bex: I just kept thinking of the films, the music video with the Muppets.

Ellen: Oh. I haven’t seen that in years.

Bex: Yeah. I know. Blast from the past, huh?

Ellen: Yeah.

Bex: Um, there are no Muppets in this episode unfortunately.

Ellen: Well, that’s arguable.

Alice: Well, Buck’s a bit of a Muppet. Yeah.

Bex: Aw.

Ellen: That’s mean. Well, they, this, this father has dragged his two kids to the beach. Although the, the little boy is pretty happy to be there. Like, he’s … They’re dragging along [00:06:00] a whole bunch of chairs and towels and umbrellas and everything. Um, and but the daughter, they look, like say, like a teenage daughter is not interested in being there particularly.

She’s, like, just snipping at her dad the whole time And she, he doesn’t wanna be here. Like, she’s just being a typical teenager pretty much.

Alice: Yeah, pretty much.

Bex: Pretty much, yeah.

Ellen: So they’re there to play on the beach, but the dad just, like, goes to sleep on a towel, and the kids are, like, sitting a little way away complaining about how the fact that he doesn’t wanna play, he just wants to sleep.

Uh, and then the, the son, the boy goes, “We used to, you know, we used to have fun. We used to bury him in the sand.” And the daughter sort of looks considering. She’s like, “Yeah, let’s do that.”

Bex: Okay, sure. When they said-

Ellen: So rather than just piling-

Bex: Yes. Okay. So when they said bury him in the sand, I imagined that they were just gonna, like, start piling the [00:07:00] sand on top of him.

Ellen: Yeah. That’s how it would usually…

Bex: … they dig a freaking grave for him.

Alice: They dig a grave. Like- Yeah.

Bex: Not… It’s like, it’s shallow. Like, it’s, it’s ma- it’s not the full six feet, but it is literally a grave in the sand that they then drag him by the towel and dump him into the grave and then fill it in.

Ellen: Yeah.

Bex: That, I mean, that is impressive.

Ellen: Um, I guess that’s a way to do it without him waking up and realizing what’s happening, but still, that’s dedication, I suppose.

Alice: Yep.

Ellen: I would’ve ab- absolutely just piled sand on top of him.

Bex: Yeah. I wonder if the logic was that whatever happens next would not have happened if he were not, like, actually under the level of the sand.

Alice: I think so.

Ellen: I don’t know, but it, it was like they, they did a bit of a bait and switch here. So he’s buried in the sand and he’s, like, looking at the water going, “Oh, you guys know when the tide’s coming in?”

[00:08:00] And they’re like, “Ah,” dumping a, a bucket full of water on him, where I don’t know where they got that from, because you don’t-

Alice: The, the sea?

Ellen: … usually put water in your bucket and just have it sitting there. Yeah. Anyway, um, and then he’s like, “Oh no, I’m drowning.” And then all of a sudden this lightning bolt just hits out of nowhere.

Alice: I have to mention too, so, like, I was watching it and I was like, how is he still asleep the entire process?

Bex: Yes, because….

Alice: Because they’re not being quiet about it, and then when they move him in he, like, pretends to wake up. And I was like, okay, he was actually playing along. It’s okay. Yeah. Um, either that- That’s ’cause-

or the actual actor’s the worst actor in the world. But no, he was, like, actually playing along. He’s just like-

Bex: I think at some point it’s…

Alice: “Oh my goodness, my children have buried me alive.” And I’m like, oh, okay. Yes. That’s okay. ‘Cause I was like, how the fuck is he still asleep?

Bex: That at one point they’re not even, um, dragging him by the towel. Like, I think his daughter’s got his arm and is literally yanking him into the grave.

Alice: Literally, yeah. They [00:09:00] dump him in. Yeah.

Bex: So he definitely woke up, so I, yeah, I think he’s very much just playing along and letting them-

Alice: Yeah, so it’s, it’s a cute moment-

Bex: … letting them bury him

Alice: … before the lightning happens, because, like, they’re actually playing, like the, the daughter who’s, yeah, clearly teenage daughter, um, is even, like, giggling and it’s quite cute.

Bex: Yeah.

Ellen: Yeah. It is cute. But yeah, I wasn’t expecting this particular lightning strike.

Alice: Yeah.

Ellen: Well, well-

Bex: I think that was the point. No one was expecting that lightning strike.

Alice: No one was expecting that particular lightning strike.

Ellen: No. And as the episode got on, went on, the lightning strikes became more and more predictable as like you could… they built up to each one more and more as we went on. Anyway.

Bex: That’s not a bad thing.

Ellen: We’re get- we’re getting ahead of ourselves there.

Bex: But yeah, so li- their, the dry lightning, um, hits the umbrella, or the top of the umbrella. Obviously it goes through the umbrella. Um, the sand [00:10:00] conducts the electricity, um, heats up the sand, and the wet sand especially, uh, gets superheated and turns into glass.

Alice: Yep

Bex: essentially trapping poor, um, poor Ibrahim, which is the dad, in a cage under the sand

Ellen: And it looks like, like I didn’t look that hard, but it looks like the sand, the glass is only on him. Like, there isn’t, like a-

Alice: Well, that’s where it was wet

Ellen: … whole lot of glass all around

Alice: Yeah, so I think that’s why. ‘Cause it was conducted through the water.

Bex: Yeah. ‘Cause you c- it’s, when it flashes, um, it’s just where the wet sand was where Rush had splashed him.

Alice: Yeah.

Bex: Um.

Ellen: Oh.

Bex: Otherwise, like-

Ellen: That makes more sense

Bex: … every, every, like they would have, there would be glass everywhere on the sand.

Ellen: Yeah.

Bex: I don’t know whether that would act- like, what the, whether that’s, like, scientifically correct. Um-

Alice: I don’t care about the science. [00:11:00] Um, it’s like they, they do it in a way that is explainable enough that I’m like, “Yeah, I, I accept this.” Uh-

Bex: Yes

Alice: … like water conducts- Oh, yeah … electricity, electricity happened.

Bex: Yep.

Alice: It made a- Yep … yeah, that’s it. So I was like, “Yep, check.”

Bex: I think that’s a lot of, a lot of this episode is I’m having such a good time, I’m not caring about the details, which is nice. Yeah. I like it when that happens.

Alice: Most, most of this episode except for the pregnant woman. Anyway, um-

Bex: Yeah, that one. But again, I’m just like, I’m, the tension is building and it, they’re doing that well enough that I’m willing to switch my brain off and accept that, yes, that scenario could actually happen.

Alice: Yeah.

Bex: Um-

Alice: Um, but yeah, not, not terrible. And like, yeah, it’s, it’s good because like I l- I like that, yeah, they, they were playing and being cute beforehand, so like it makes- Yeah … it real sad because they immediately, like, blame themselves as well. Um, so yeah, like there’s red-

Ellen: Yeah

Alice: … liquid squirting out that’s supposed to be blood, but it’s very-

Bex: Oh, it, it looks so bad

Ellen: oh, it absolutely looks like red cordial.

Alice: Um, [00:12:00] and so yeah, the kids are like, “Oh my God, Daddy, are you okay?” And he just says, like, “Call 9-1-1.” Um, so of course it’s the 118 because Who else-

Ellen: Of course

Alice: … would it be?

Bex: Of course. It has to be.

Alice: Um, it’s how the show works, yeah.

Bex: Yes.

Alice: Um, I wonder if, like, the rest of the houses, I’m sure we’ve talked about this before, but, like, are their calls just like, “Oh, there’s a house on fire. Oh, there’s a cat stuck up a tree.”

There’s a c- And then they’re like, “Oh my God-

Ellen: It’s all the boring stuff

Alice: … someone was struck by lightning in the middle of the day at the beach? Oh, you’re sending the 118. Yeah, okay. That checks out.”

Bex: Look, when you actually-

Ellen: The 118 are the ones who deal with all the weird st-

Alice: Yeah …

Ellen: the weird shit.

Bex: When you go back and look and go, “Oh, a member of the 118 got crushed by their own firetruck. Oh, a member of the 118 got shot by a sniper,” they’re probably quite happy to deal with the kitchen fire and the kitten up the tree, ’cause they’re not- Yeah, right … getting shot at. They’re not having firetrucks land on them. Their truck isn’t going off the edge of a cliff.

Alice: Yeah.

Bex: They’re not being [00:13:00] accused of robbing a bank.

Alice: Like, “Oh, another elderly woman had a fall. That’s fine. We’ll go do that.”

Bex: That’s fine by us.

Alice: You guys deal with the tsunami. I’m gonna go deal with this nice old lady who’s gonna, um, actually give me some shortbread. Um.

Bex: Right. Which they’re not going to eat because they heard about the 118 who ate the brownies that someone brought in.

Ellen: And got drugged, yeah.

Bex: And got dosed.

The 118 are dispatched to the beach. Um, and Bobby jumps out of the truck when the kids race up to him, not doing his usual monologue for the audience to explain, uh, the call, but instead asks these children what happened. And I’m like, “Sir, did you not get briefed-

Ellen: Did he not?

Bex: … by the dispatcher on the way over?”

Ellen: Oh.

Bex: We’ve gone from Bobby having too much information to having no information.

Ellen: Yeah.

Alice: Yeah.

Bex: [00:14:00] Uh, so Omar explains to us and to Bobby that they buried his dad, and then the lightning came, and apparently it’s all their fault.

Alice: Yeah.

Bex: Um, and they’re, the 118 are slightly confused. They’re like, “What do you…”

Like, Omar is telling them that “it got him in the neck,” and Chim is confused. Like, “What do you mean the lightning got him on the neck?” Um, but it’s Buck that figures it out because he takes a step towards Ibrahim and the glass, the sand crunches underfoot. He’s like, “Oh, no, it’s glass.”

Ellen: Hmm.

Bex: So they have to, um, they have to dig him out, removing the glass. Um, and this week it is not Bobby who is wrangling the kids while the 118 works, it’s Buck’s turn. ‘Cause this entire season we’re just throwing children at Buck to, like, really reinforce the fact that he is a sperm donor. [00:15:00] And he is gonna have a kid out there somewhere. Like, we’re just gonna keep throwing kids at him to really hammer that home.

Ellen: Oh, but he’s so good with them.

Bex: Yeah. Look, he is. It’s just, for this season it’s just incredibly blatant how often they are putting him with kids now

Ellen: Well, he t- he takes the kids a little way away because they’re getting a bit, you know, panicky about the whole thing. So, um, although first, um, before they do that, Buck’s like, “Where… You know, the, it’s not even raining. Like, how the hell did the lightning strike? And Eddie’s like, Eddie very ominously says, “I don’t know. I really hope it doesn’t strike twice, though.” And I’m like, “Oh, this is the episode where Buck gets struck by lightning.” Like, I’d, I’d heard that it happened, and I knew that it was… I’d been spoiled for that.

Bex: Oh.

Ellen: But, um, so I knew right from the start that it was gonna happen this episode.

Bex: [00:16:00] Oh.

Ellen: So, but I mean, even if I didn’t know, the way they build up to it is just so, so obvious. But anyway, that’s at the end of the episode. In the meantime, um, Buck takes the kids a little way away and just tries to calm them down a bit, and it’s, it’s gonna be okay.

Um, he explains that to the kids and the audience that the sand’s turned into glass because it got so hot. Chim and Hen unearth the s- like, the dad’s, like, neck where there’s a, a piece of glass just, like, sticking right out of his neck.

Alice: Yeah, it’s sticking right out. But because it apparently like-

Ellen: Well, sticking right in maybe

Alice: came in, yeah. Um, because it came in hot, it’s, like, semi-cauterized, which is kinda cool.

Ellen: Yeah. Yeah I guess that’s a good thing. Um, that means he’s not bleeding out right there, but-

Alice: Yeah, from there

Ellen: From, yeah.

Bex: But does that mean all of the blood that, that was [00:17:00] gushing is coming from the other cut? ‘Cause if the one if the carotid cauterized, it wouldn’t have had a chance to bleed. Oh, then where’s the blood coming from?

Alice: I think, um, uh, for the drama, it doesn’t matter. Um, so

Bex: No, like, for the drama, like when I watched it for the first time I’m going, “Oh yeah, like the, it’s coming from his neck, he’s bleeding out from his neck,” now that I’m actually sitting down and thinking about it, I’m like, “Wait.” It’s

Alice: semi-cauterized. It just took a m- second. Um- Oh, okay … when she said instant scab- Right … it’s like instant mash, you’ve still gotta stir it for a little bit first.

Bex: Okay.

Ellen: But I mean, that isn’t also the only place that he’s bleeding from because apparently they-

Bex: No, no, no. He’s got the arterial bleed in his arm, so-

Alice: Yeah

Bex: … so d- so is the theory, like the blood-

Alice: But that doesn’t start bleeding till they start moving stuff around, does it?

Bex: N- no. It’s as soon as, like it’s f- apparently it’s fine [00:18:00] until they lift his arm and then the, the wound gapes open and starts-

Alice: Yeah

Bex: pumping blood everywhere. And I’m like,

Bleh.

Alice: Because, like, he’d be dead if it was arterial bleeding the entire time.

Bex: So maybe the sand was, like, holding the wound closed. Um, anyway, for the drama, all of a sudden he has a very serious arterial bleed on his upper arm that they need to, like, get under control.

Ellen: It’s gross

Bex: Which they do, of course. Um, they get it under control. They, um, pack it with gauze. They get a tourniquet. Um, then they get him out from his sandy grave onto a backboard, onto a gurney. Uh, the kids are gonna ride in the ambulance. No, the kids are gonna ride in the truck while dad goes in the ambulance.

Meanwhile, thunder is booming ominously in the background.

Ellen: Yes.

Bex: Which I do like. I mean, like this, th- the, the storyline and the, the way that they’ve built this episode, [00:19:00] it’s incredibly obvious and incredibly ham-fisted with, like, the thunder just booming every time something semi-bad is gonna happen. But it works.

Ellen: It does work. Like- It makes it very tense the entire time. It’s good. It’s a good way to build tension.

Bex: Yes.

Ellen: Even if it is a bit-

Bex: A bit

Ellen: … a bit obvious.

Bex: But I think I’m just glad that there is an, an actual narrative structure to the episode. Like, you’ve got someone who’s might be telling the most obvious story to tell in the world, but at least he’s telling it in a very structured, very, um, a very, a ni- a good way.

It’s not just, like, throwing storylines out left, right, and center and hoping that everyone can keep track of what’s going on.

Ellen: Well, we don’t get to find out about the guy with the glass in his neck or the, or his kids, uh, anymore because we’re done with that storyline.

Alice: No, we don’t go through the glass doors in this one.

Ellen: Yeah. [00:20:00] Uh, Josh and the people at dispatch are watching the Channel 8 News. Not Taylor, sadly. Um, I don’t know, maybe she’s moved somewhere else now ’cause we don’t see her anymore. Well, I don’t know, but in the future, but we haven’t seen her for a while.

Alice: She vanished as soon as Buck broke up with her, so that’s fine.

Ellen: Yeah. Um-

Bex: Well, women flee him, remember?

Alice: Yeah. Isn’t that Eddie?

Bex: No, that’s Buck.

Alice: Oh, yeah.

Bex: Abby.

Alice: ‘Cause yeah, Abby Le- yep, yep …

Bex: the New York chick. Now Taylor.

Alice: Yep. So yeah, Taylor’s also moved to, um, to England or Italy or wherever.

Ellen: She’s certainly not doing the weather report anymore.

Bex: No.

Ellen: Uh, there is a weather event over Southland. Um, apparently the, the dry thunderstorm is to do with high altitude and the rain evaporates before [00:21:00] it gets to the ground, which is kinda cool, and it actually, these things really happen. We actually had someone struck by lightning in, in Brisbane, oh, it was a few months ago now. But the storm was, like, over the southwest somewhere, and this person was on an oval somewhere on the other side of the city, and they got struck by lightning. They didn’t die.

Bex: Holy shit.

Ellen: Thank God. But, um, yeah, a long way away from where the actual storm was, and they got hit, so it can happen. It was, like, a kid running around on an oval playing sport.

Bex: Oh my God.

Ellen: So yeah, you just never know.

Alice: Yeah.

Bex: Which is why one of the safety tips that Channel 8 News is to, uh, take cover because no place outside is safe. Remain indoors until the storm passes. Um, nobody pays attention to that in this episode.

Ellen: No.

Bex: I guess if they did that-

Alice: No, no one at all

Bex: … we wouldn’t have an episode. Yeah. ‘Cause the storm would just be going in the background- Yeah … and everyone would be inside and the most boring thing ever.

Alice: Inside hanging out, yeah. Yeah. [00:22:00] Playing solitaire.

Bex: Although, you know, everybody’s inside in the, uh, the murder house. They’re all inside, and that’s still pretty dramatic, so maybe it wouldn’t have been a completely boring episode.

Alice: How did everyone fly in when there’s so many storm… Anyway.

Bex: Um-

Ellen: Maybe they did that before the storm arrived

Bex: I feel like the Buckley’s-

Ellen: Anyway, I don’t know why I’m trying to explain it …

Bex: No. No.

Ellen: It doesn’t matter.

Bex: No. It doesn’t matter.

Ellen: Maddie is freaking out anyway. She’s not worried about the storm, she’s worried about the fact that her parents are about to arrive.

Bex: No, she has her own invisible storm, her parents.

Ellen: Yes. Yeah. And also, Albert is coming back from Korea this week. Um, and when you get a new house everyone wants to see it, even if it’s not ready. But no one can stay with them because it’s not ready, so that’s good. But they’re still coming.

Bex: Yep.

Ellen: And Josh is like, “If my family wanted to [00:23:00] stay with me, I’d take a sledgehammer to my kitchen.”

Bex: That’s plan B for Maddie apparently. Um, I don’t know. The house looks pretty good. Um, we don’t see the entirety of the house.

Ellen: It, it looks great.

Bex: But, like, we see the kitchen and the dining area mostly, but it looks nice.

Alice: Yeah, it’s not like it’s got, like, tarps up or anything like that, yeah.

Bex: It looks finished.

Ellen: I mean, this is several months later, right?

Bex: It’s four months later.

Alice: Yeah.

Ellen: Yeah.

Bex: So they’ve done a lot of work in four months.

Ellen: Yeah, they’ve done a really good job cleaning it up.

Bex: Um, but yeah, like the kitchen is entirely hab- um, habitable. Chim’s trying to cook. Um-

Alice: Yeah. He’s catching things on fire

Bex: … and I’m not saying try because Kim can’t cook, it’s, uh, because I don’t think Chim has ever cooked on a gas burner before. Um, and that’s kind of freaking him out.

Ellen: Well, it looks like the, the pan that he’s cooking with is actually on fire. Like, when he’s- Whatever he’s doing on the pan it’s like there’s flames. It’s like I don’t think that’s how you’re supposed to… [00:24:00] Anyway, please don’t set the murder house on fire before anyone’s actually arrived.

And which Maddie actually says to him, like, “You’ve, you’ve mastered burning down our new house.” But- … that doesn’t matter because her mom is gonna hate it anyway.

Bex: Yep. Specifically she’s going to hate the backsplash in the kitchen. Um, which I don’t know, I thought it was nice.

Ellen: Yeah, it was colorful. It’s like that sort of Spanish-looking tile kind of-

Bex: Mm

Ellen: colorful. Uh, but yeah, suits the kitchen.

Alice: Yeah.

Bex: Yeah So Maddie is worried about her mother’s opinion on the decoration of the house. Chim has still got a bit of a chip on his shoulder because the Buckleys contributed to the purchase of the house.

Alice: And technically- Yeah. Apparently the Buckleys did the entire down payment.

Bex: That’s nice of them.

Alice: Um, yeah. So Maddie says that, “You still bothered that they helped us with the down payment?” And Chim’s like, “No, they didn’t just help. They put it all [00:25:00] down.” Um, but Chim isn’t bothered because he got the house.

Bex: Oh no, he’s still bothered because he’s like, “It doesn’t bother me because we got the house, so when your father asks to sit at the head of the table, I’m not even gonna care.” He totally cares.

Alice: He totally cares, yeah.

Bex: He totally.

Ellen: Mm-hmm.

Alice: But look, he’s in his murder house, so…

Ellen: But they sort of reassure each other, like, “We’ve got this. Let’s do it.”

Bex: Yeah.

Ellen: It’s you and me against the Buckleys.

Bex: It’s not… Yeah, you and me against the Buckleys. Not Buck, though. I think Buck’s on their side. Um, but they’re like, “You know, it’s gonna be fine. It’s not like there’s any deep, dark family secrets that can be brought out-“

Alice: This time

Bex: this time. And Chim’s like- Oh … “You never know.”

Ellen: But there is. It’s not really a deep, dark secret, but there w- there is a secret that’s about to be revealed.

Bex: Yeah. Um, so Maddie exits stage left because Jee wakes up. And at exact [00:26:00] time that she leaves we can see the Buckleys arrive at the front door, so Chim goes- Yeah, Jee could s-

to greet them.

Alice: Jee could sense the evil and started crying.

Um, I laughed so hard though when… So Buck has apparently picked the, picked his parents up from the airport. Poor Buck.

Bex: Yep.

Alice: And, um, Chim opens the door and is like, “Hey, Evan.” And Buck’s like, “Evan?” Like, because the Buckleys hate nicknames, and so he’s like, “Evan, Philip,” um, and just keeps calling Buck Evan. And, and Buck’s just like, “Who the fuck are you?”

Like, “What is happening right now?”

Ellen: Yes. Howie, Evan.

Alice: Um, yeah, and then calls him Howie, which is funny ’cause that’s also a nickname. So he’s not great at this Buck.

Ellen: Yeah, that’s true

Alice: But yeah, it’s always weird hearing Buck get called Evan

Bex: Howie and Evan. Yeah.

Alice: Like Howie’s not so bad because [00:27:00] occasionally Maddie will call him Howie. Um- Albert always calls him Howie … but his name’s Howard. Yeah. But his name’s Howard, so Howie’s still a nickname

Bex: I guess it’s, it’s a, like a diminutive. It’s a dimi- diminate, ugh, it’s a shortened version of his name. It’s not like a completely-

Alice: Yeah, but they don’t like… Maddie is the name on her birth certificate.

Bex: I know. That’s, that’s just weird.

Alice: Like they don’t like nicknames, so.

Bex: Anyway, um, Evan and Howard are saved by the arrival of the prodigal granddaughter, um, who Margaret and Philip are meeting for the first time.

Um, and thank God Jee spent most of her childhood being dragged around Boston and God knows what other states when Chim was on his road trip to find Maddie. She must be incredibly used to strangers, ’cause she doesn’t even bat an eye when this strange woman-

Ellen: Yeah, she’s perfectly happy

Bex: … like sweeps in and takes her from Maddie’s arms. Yeah.

Alice: Yeah. I’m sure they’ve [00:28:00] seen each other on FaceTime. It’s fine.

Ellen: She seems to recognize her. And she comes in and says, “Oh, the backsplash, it’s amazing.”

Bex: Yes, the Buckleys are on their best behavior.

Ellen: And Maddie’s just like, “What?”

Bex: Margaret loves the backsplash. Um, they go to sit down for dinner. Philip is happy to sit anywhere at the table. He doesn’t need to sit at the seat, sit at the head of the table. It’s all going fine, and then the doorbell rings again. And just as Chim is congratulating himself and Maddie on, like, explosions averted, everything’s going well, um, he goes to answer the door and it’s Albert. Um, but Albert has also brought back a souvenir from Korea in the-

Alice: Yeah, it’s not just Albert.

Bex: Yeah, he, uh-

Ellen: It’s not just Albert

Bex: … he brought his dad. He brought his dad and, um, his new wife, which I think is- Uh- … Albert’s mother?

Alice: I think it’s Albert’s mother. [00:29:00] Yeah. Um, the best part is, though-

Bex: Yeah …

Alice: Chim’s like, “Welcome home, little brother. How’s Korea? The old man still a pain in the ass?” And Albert’s just like, “Um…” and Chim’s dad is literally standing, like, right behind him.

Bex: Yeah. Uh, so, you know, Mr. Kim is like, “Ah,” you know, “How are you, son?” And thunder rumbles ominously in the background as we go to commercial.

Ellen: Ha, the, the subtitles were on for that, so I do remember seeing that he says, “Hello, how are you?” Yes. So we don’t just get “speaks Korean”.

Bex: We don’t just get square brackets.

Ellen: In the subtitles.

Bex: Speaks Korean.

Ellen: Yeah. No, we actually get, we have to find out what he says.

Bex: Yes.

Ellen: Okay, so we’ve gotta go and check in with what Hen’s up to, because in, remember at the end of the last episode, um, Denny went off to meet up with his dad, his bio dad. But Hen still doesn’t know [00:30:00] about this. So she has just been to the shops and she’s unpacking the groceries, and Denny wants to know if she got rubber bands.

Alice: D- Denny? Do, do you mean D?

Ellen: And you, and, and he tells her off for not calling him D. D, nickname.

Bex: ‘Cause he’s like, he’s a, a big 10-and-a-half-year-old now. You know? Hmm. He’s not Denny anymore, he’s D.

Alice: No, it was just his, it was just his birthday, so he-

Bex: Well, it’s been four months.

Alice: Oh, yeah, it was four months. Yeah.

Bex: So I’m, I’m-

Ellen: It’s, it’s been a while, yeah

Bex: I’m rounding up, 10 and a half. Like, 10 and four months, but… Yeah, he’s so grown.

Ellen: He’s having an, an, an identity crisis and decided to become D.

Alice: Yeah. Well, his real name’s Diesel, yeah? So D-

Ellen: Diesel, is it?

Alice: I guess. Yep. Diesel.

Ellen: Okay. I guess that makes sense.

Bex: I know that’s what Eva wanted to call him. Is that what he actually got

Alice: Unless they changed his name while, um, they adopted him

Bex: Oh, you would wanna hope so [00:31:00]

Alice: Cause, uh, yeah, ’cause Eva was like, “How’s Diesel?” And Hen’s like, “We call him Denny now.”

Bex: Oh no. Well, the Wikipedia is saying Diesel Mathias or Matthias, so Denny is a nickname.

Alice: Yeah.

Bex: Does he know his name is Diesel?

Alice: Well, he goes by D now, so

Bex: I mean, wouldn’t that-

Ellen: So it doesn’t matter just D.

Bex: Anyway, um, yes. So D takes the bag of rubber bands that Hen has bought, um, and races off to the couch where he has, where he gets a baseball mitt out of his bag, um, and starts putting the rubber bands over the mitt. And Hen f- sort of follows him. She’s like, “What the hell? Like, what are you doing with rubber bands? Wait, where did you get a baseball mitt from?”

Alice: She bought the rubber bands. It’s, it’s actually really [00:32:00] cute when she’s like … ‘Cause, um, Denny’s like, “I told you to get rubber bands.” And Hen’s like, “Ugh, don’t you hate when you go to the store and forget the one thing you went to go get?” And she’s, like, unpacking the groceries and pulling out everything one by one.

Bex: Everything but the rubber bands

Alice: And none of them are, none of them are elastic bands, and Denny’s just like, “Ah.” And Hen’s like, “Oh, it’s gonna happen to you. You’re gonna start forgetting things.” Um, but yeah, that whole d- but, like, was he just like, “Mum, can you get me some elastic, some rubber bands?” And she was like, “Okay.” like, you didn’t ask why?

Bex: Hen is- For sure … very, very uncurious this entire episode.

Alice: Yeah.

Bex: Like, so many red flags are waving at her, and she’s just ignoring every single one of them I’m going to give her the benefit of the doubt and say that she assumes that Denny D is gonna be using it for some kind of science experiment

Ellen: Well, he’s all into science now since he nearly got blown up in the lab

Alice: six months or so ago

Bex: Well, he got that big robot thing for his birthday, so [00:33:00]

Alice: Four months in. Yeah. It’s, um… But yeah, she just doesn’t even ask why, like

Bex: Nope

Alice: Doesn’t even question why he wants rubber bands, and then he also has a baseball mitt, which she also didn’t know he had

Bex: Which apparently he bought with his allowance, and I don’t know how much he gets as an allowance, but mitts are not cheap. And like, when did he have time to go and buy it?

Alice: Yeah

Ellen: Yeah. When, wouldn’t he- Hen need to take him to go and get it? Like, he’s just… Is he allowed to just at, at 10 years of age just go to the shops and buy a baseball glove?

Bex: Unless Karen, like he got Karen to do it and they just haven’t communicated, like, “Oh, by the way, I bought Denny a baseball mitt today.”

Ellen: Yeah. I don’t know.

Bex: Anyway Yeah. There’s no, there’s like big gaping holes in this plot. Um, but apparently soccer was like so for 10-year-olds. He’s like a 10 point s- um, [00:34:00] 10.25-year-old now. Like he’s big and grown. He plays baseball.

Alice: Yeah, baseball’s way cooler than soccer. Um-

Bex: Apparently

Alice: … and as someone who’s been watching Ted Lasso, beg to disagree.

Bex: Uh, but in case anyone is curious, the rubber bands are to help break the mitt in. So mitts come as very-

Alice: I was very curious as to what the fuck he was doing, so I’m glad you brought it up.

Bex: Because like the mitts are very stiff and they’re very open, so you put the rubber bands to close them so they get more of a, a, a curve and more of a, a cup shape.

Um-

Ellen: Oh

Bex: … so they’re more flexible and they’re easier to wrap around a ball and actually catch the ball rather than the ball just landing on the open mitt and hoping to hell that you hold onto it.

Alice: Yeah, there you go.

Ellen: That makes sense.

Alice: I guess it’s like how bal- like ballerinas buy the, like their shoes and then have to rip them apart and-

Bex: Destroy them and you won’t be able to wear them

Alice: beat them with hammers and stuff. Yeah

Bex: Yeah. Pretty much.

Alice: There you go. Ballet [00:35:00] and baseball, same, same.

Bex: Or it’s kind of like when you, like, get a, a, a cap and you’re, like, bending the brim to, like, get it into the good shape. I think I’ve seen people- Yeah … do rubber bands on the brim to get the good curve as well.

Ellen: Yeah, you have to do it with, um, if you buy an Akubra or, or like a, a hat. Yeah. A leather hat like that.

Bex: It’s just a way to speed up the break-in and the personalization and customization process of it so it actually fits you.

Ellen: Mm-hmm. I love how in this, in the notes you’ve keep referring to it as the Murder House. I think that’s just gonna be-

Bex: I love the Murder House!

Ellen: … its name from now on, right?

Alice: Yeah, it’s the Murder House.

Ellen: Yeah. Um, meanwhile, in the Murder House.

Bex: Forever, forever, like five seasons, five seasons from now, it’s still gonna be the Murder House.

Ellen: Yeah.

Alice: Yep.

Ellen: Why not?

Alice: It’s not even the Murder House, but it’s still the Murder House.

Bex: Yeah, no, no murders actually took place in it, but I’m still gonna call it the Murder House. [00:36:00] Uh, yeah, so it’s, it’s dinner time. Um, ev- they’ve managed to find extra chairs and extra place settings for, uh, Mr. Han and, um, and his wife. So, you know, good on Maddie for being prepared for extra company.

Ellen: Yes. Uh, Chim says, “We need more wine. I’m gonna get some more wine. Albert, let’s go get wine,” and, like, drags him out of the room.

Alice: No, he doesn’t drag him out of the room.

Bex: It’s so cute though because Albert-

Alice: He drags him outside.

Ellen: Yeah.

Alice: And Albert’s like, “You keep your wine outside?”

Bex: Yeah, ’cause Albert, like, quite happily follows him into the kitchen, but then actually starts looking for the wine, and Chim’s just like-

Alice: Yeah, he’s like, “Where’s the wine?”

Bex: … “No,” yeets him out into the patio. Albert’s like, “Well, we’re getting wine outside?” Chim’s like, “No, the wine was a ruse, you fool.”

Ellen: I love their dynamic. So good

Alice: It’s, it just, it reminds me, um, of in [00:37:00] Friends when, um, Monica’s like, “Rachel, I need you out in the hallway. I dropped a sock.” And, like, sh- she drags Rachel out to yell at her, but Rachel spends the whole time looking for a sock.

Bex: Looking for a sock.

Alice: And then like halfway through she’s like, “You didn’t drop a sock.” Monica’s like, “No, what are you doing?”

Ellen: Yeah

Alice: Oh. Keep the wine outside? Um, they do not keep their wine outside. Chim just wanted to yell at Albert.

Bex: Yes.

Ellen: Yeah, that’s pretty

Bex: much it. Specifically what Albert was thinking in bringing his father to Chim’s house. And, uh, Albert’s like, “You know, Dad asked about you, and I said you should come to America to visit your granddaughter.”

And Chim’s like, “And it never occurred to you after dinner, the next day, or during the 17-hour flight that you should, you know, maybe give me the heads-up?” And Albert’s like, “Uh, it might have, but it’s better to ask forgiveness than permission, so-“

Alice: Yeah. [00:38:00] So yeah- No … basically Albert’s like, “Yeah, could have told you, but I knew you’d crack it, so I didn’t tell you.”

Ellen: And then, and then Chim goes, “I taught you too well.”

Alice: But yeah, like Chim says that no good can come from, like their father being back in his life, and Albert’s like, “Yeah, I don’t care. Keep him out. We’re just visiting.” But, um, like what do they say about becoming a parent? It stops being about you, ’cause you may not wa- want a father, but Jee-Yun dese- deserves a grandfather.

I don’t agree with this.

Ellen: No?

Alice: Like, if Chim’s dad literally like up and left him and abandoned him, gave him all this trauma, that sort of stuff, why the fuck does he deserve to have a relationship with Jee just because he’s family? Like he hasn’t been family, he hasn’t done been anything to Chim. [00:39:00] And like he’s-

Bex: Yeah, but that’s not Albert’s… that’s not what Albert sees when he looks at his dad. He, he ha- he doesn’t have the trauma.

Alice: Yeah, he still s- he still went to America to escape his, like to get away from his parents telling him what to do all the time. I just don’t, like just because you, just because Chim has a kid, that doesn’t mean that he needs to let his father back in his life.

Bex: Yeah, but you gotta remember this is like the Kristen Riedel series, and she’s-

Alice: Exactly. That’s why I don’t like it as a trope

Bex: … very, very into- But- … blood family over found family. So yeah, very much we need to get the grandparents in our lives because they are family.

Alice: Because Chim has parents, and they’re the Lees, and they’re very involved in Jee’s life, and have actually called him to ask about

Bex: Jee.

Oh, I would have loved to have the Lees, the… Could you imagine if it was the Buckley, the Hans and the Lees?

Alice: And the Lees?

Bex: Yeah. All at the same time.

Alice: Like s- well, someone had to raise him after you left. Um-

Bex: [00:40:00] Yes.

Ellen: Yeah, if he wanted to have a relationship with Jee, that s- feels like something that maybe she should decide when she’s a bit older if she wants to.

Alice: Yeah. Or he, like he could have got in touch, he could have done anything, but no, like Albert can… Yeah, anyway. I don’t believe that Chim needs a relationship with his father just because he has a daughter now. Like, no.

Bex: Anyways, isn’t that what Bobby and Athena are? extra grandparents?

Ellen: Yeah

Alice: Exactly. That’s it. Chim has a family. He doesn’t need some guy from-

Ellen: Well, at least they’re only visiting. They’ve, they’re visiting from Korea, so they’ll be gone soon. It’s a passing … a passing visit

Bex: Sure. So let’s go from, um, the family reunion, um, to the fancy Hollywood rehab that Bobby was stalking at the end of last season.[00:41:00]

Ellen: Ah, yes.

Bex: Um, w- yes. Uh, where we, uh, join in on apparently a guided tour of the rehab, um, where one of the, the owners… Well, actually both of them are giving the tour, but only the, the woman is actually giving the spiel. Um, and at the end-

Ellen: They’re not holding hands at this point

Bex: They are not holding hands at this point. Um, and at the end of the tour, the camera kind of pans around and we see who has been taking the tour, um, and it’s Athena and a very strung out looking May. Like she, like top tier makeup application for May, unless, you know, she’s actually gone method-

Ellen: She looks real sick

Bex: … and got herself addicted to something.

Ellen: Yeah. She, she doesn’t look well at all.

Alice: Um. Yeah. She, she’s like teased her hair out so it’s all like…

Bex: But it looks greasy as well and she’s got these big-

Alice: Yeah

Bex: … bags under her eyes. Um.

Alice: [00:42:00] Um, my favorite part of this scene is that, so they’re going by different names. Um, Athena doesn’t get a first name, she’s just Mis- Mrs. Greer. But May is going by Jada, and the closed caption, like the subtitles, were calling her Jada the whole time. And I was like, “Are you keeping it a surprise for us too?” Because like I, I know who it is.

Ellen: Yeah, we know. Like we know who-

Alice: Of course

Ellen: … she’s not in a disguise. Like-

Bex: Pretty sure it’s May.

Ellen: … we know who she is.

Bex: It’s just in case the, uh, the characters sort of look down at the closed caption and go, “May? Who’s May?”

Alice: Yeah, who’s May?

Bex: Who is this May we’re speaking right now? Uh, so apparently, uh, Mrs. Greer is trying to get her daughter Jada checked in for rehab

Alice: Yeah. Yeah, she needs to get clean.

Bex: Um, and they’re taking a tour. You know, like most people would do sort of tours of schools and colleges, no, Jada gets a tour of rehab.

Alice: Yeah.

Bex: Um-

Alice: Apparently she’s, um, she’s coherent enough to tour a [00:43:00] rehab facility. Um-

Bex: Yeah …

Alice: but yeah, so Athena’s like, “Oh, so you can get her clean?” And they’re like, “Clean denotes that she’s dirty, and we don’t deal with those kinds of absolutes.” I don’t know how clean and dirty are absolute, but sure. Okay. Um, but yeah, so they offer to show Athena around, and Jada is like, “Can I get a tour of my own?”

And so they just like palm her off to some, like, random young girl who apparently was an addict there a few months ago but is now working there. Um, so yeah, her name’s Tamara, and she takes May outside and says that she was in this facility a couple of times before she finally found a way to get herself on solid ground.

And when Jada asks how long it took her, Tamara just avoids the question.

Bex: Yeah, that’s a bit of a red flag right there. So Jada/May, [00:44:00] um, sort of takes note of the fact that Tamara’s not gonna answer, and, uh, they’re out in the garden and Tamara’s like, “Oh, you know, this pla- this garden is beautiful. Isn’t it nice?”

And Jada’s like, “Great. Cool. So I can shoot up out here, right?” ‘Cause from what the, they were saying inside, um, they wouldn’t, they meet their guests halfway, so the implication is that they allow them to use on the premises.

Ellen: Mm-hmm.

Bex: And Tamara’s trying to tell her, like, “If you, if that’s all you’re thinking about, this, this isn’t gonna work for you.”

The point is to try to get Jada to live with her, uh, it, live with it, like live with her addiction, live with her problem, not fight against it. Yeah. Jada says, “The only thing I’m fighting is my mum.” Meanwhile, inside, um, Athena is getting the nitty-gritty details Which includes how much it’s going to cost to send her [00:45:00] daughter to this rehab.

Alice: Oh, includes that, so there are 12 beds and there’s one open, and it’s like, “Oh, Jeez, wonder whose bed’s open?”

Bex: I wonder why. Yeah. I wonder why that’s, that’s open at the moment. Um, but yeah, apparently it’s, uh, a $100,000 stay.

Alice: Yeah. And this is where we find out, oh my God, it wasn’t Jada, it was May the whole time. Oh my God.

Ellen: Oh my God. Jee, what a great disguise. I was May. I would never have known.

Alice: Yeah, shocked.

Bex: Um, and surprisingly they have been sent in by Bobby to do, like, undercover work.

Alice: Absolutely shocked, just startled at this whole revelation. Um, that he’s still going to… That there’s still a bed open four months later, and he’s still trying to, like, he’s just got a tour five months, uh, four months later. But sure.

Ellen: Bobby’s probably been trying to get in and, like, he kept, keeps going and they keep telling him to go away, and then eventually Athena’s like, [00:46:00] “Why don’t you just let me go in there?”

Alice: Oh my God, no. I get it now. It took him four months to get May, um, uh, addicted to painkillers.

Bex: See, this is what I mean. He got her strung out then he sent her in.

Ellen: Oh, no.

Alice: Well, it wasn’t M- it wasn’t acting, it was real. He’s been slipping painkillers in her dinner for the last four months.

Ellen: Damn. That’s, that’s cold. Um, no. Absolutely not. He’s just convinced her to go and do his dirty work for him.

Alice: Yeah.

Bex: Pretty much, yeah …

Alice: They’re sick of hearing him complain about it, so they’re like, “Fine, we’ll go fucking look.” Yeah. Jesus Christ.

Ellen: But they didn’t find anything out. All they found was how expensive it is. He’s like, “Well, so what happened to Wendell?” and Athena’s like, “Well, I don’t know. N- nothing that we saw.”

Alice: And meanwhile May’s like, “I have to get to class in an hour. I have to, like, get sober by then.”

Ellen: Bye. And [00:47:00] Athena’s like, “Look, I, we, we don’t know what’s happened, so maybe we should just let it go and let the, you know, Wendell’s family has filed a complaint, just let that happen, you know?” Bobby’s like, “I can’t do that.” So-

Bex: No, ’cause when he gets a bug up his ass about something, he is, like, obsessed with it.

Ellen: Yeah.

Bex: Um, he cannot let that go. Um, he doesn’t know what happened and he’s-

Alice: Even though it was for a guy that we knew for two seconds last episode, but sure.

Bex: Yeah. Well-

Ellen: Not to Bobby …

Bex: we’re, we’re, not to Bobby. We’re, we’re, we’re going to go with the idea that he’s known Wendell for however long he’s been in Los Angeles, ’cause I’ve lost count at this point. Um, so he doesn’t know what happened, but he’s not gonna stop until he finds out.

Alice: It just frustra- frustrates me, ’cause it’s such lazy writing to just be like, “Oh, mid-season finale, like, hiatus. Let’s give Bobby some guy-“

Bex: Let’s bring in a new character

Alice: … that he’s known forever. Yeah. Like, [00:48:00] you’re nine episodes in at that point. They should, they could have introduced him in episode one of this season. I don’t even re- the blimp. He could’ve, Bobby could’ve just been in an AA meeting at some point this season so that when he met up with Wendell again, we’re like, “Oh, it’s his sponsor.” And then he died. It’s like, “Oh no, his sponsor died.”

Instead we’re like, “Oh yes, it’s just this…” Yeah. Like, I don’t give a shit about Wendell. I don’t give a shit about this storyline, because they did no pre, like, they did no build up to it at all.

Bex: They didn’t even, they didn’t even try to David Wallace him.

Alice: No.

Bex: They just introduced him and killed him. Introduced. There was no David Wallace-ing.

Alice: Literally. There was no… I cared more about David Wallace than I did Wendell. And David Wallace was one segment in one episode, and Wendell’s still fucking going, and I’m like, “I don’t care. I don’t care that Wendell’s dead. I’m sorry, Bobby. I don’t care.”

Ellen: Well, it, you don’t have to care anymore in this episode, ’cause I don’t think it comes back again. If that’s it.

Bex: Uh-

Alice: No, it does

Bex: … May goes back to see Tamara again.

Ellen: Yeah. Oh yeah. But that’s later.

Alice: Keeps [00:49:00] going.

Ellen: Well-

Bex: But that’s later. So-

Ellen: In the meantime-

Alice: It doesn’t come back except for later, but it’s fine.

Ellen: Yeah, that’s only a brief thing later. Um-

Alice: Lazy storytelling. But yeah, so Athena tells Bobby to let it go. Bobby’s like, “No.” He does not build an ice castle in the snow

Bex: Does not build a snowman. Um-

Alice: No, does not build a snowman

Bex: Um, no. Um, we go to commercial, we come back, and he’s still working on this. He’s at work now when he should be focusing at, like, work stuff. Um-

Alice: He’s just staring at a photo of him and Wendell that they-

Bex: Oh, yeah

Alice: definitely didn’t just put in this episode

Bex: Yeah, he’s got a photo of him and Wendell in his locker that, you know, in his equipment locker that, you know, has always been there for the last six seasons, of course.

Alice: Yeah.

Bex: Uh.

Ellen: Not at all creepy. The storm is not budging. It’s still … There’s still thunder, but no rain. Uh, Buck [00:50:00] very philosophically says, “That’s the thing about dark clouds, though. They hang over you, and they don’t quit.” And Bobby’s like, “Dude, I’m fine. Shut up.”

Bex: ‘Cause Bobby’s, Bobby is not using his office because, you know, he has an office. He could be in his office doing this work.

Um, he’s sitting-

Alice: Yeah, I didn’t even think he had a locker, but sure

Bex: he’s sitting … Well, it’s where they put their turnout, ’cause everyone’s got, like, a turnout and equipment locker. Um, but anyway, he’s sitting in the loft kitchen doing this investiga- investigative work on his laptop. Um, I don’t know if Buck is, was going to be cooking anyway, but he seems to be cooking in the kitchen, if only just to keep Bobby company and try and talk to him at the same time.

Ellen: Yeah, what is he even … Oh, he’s doing some research that-

Alice: He’s making chili …

Ellen: you don’t really care about. But Buck brings a spoon of his stuff over, of the chili, over to [00:51:00] Bobby.

Bex: A spoon of his stuff?

Ellen: A spoon of his stuff.

Bex: He doesn’t need to make any more donations.

Alice: He’s done enough donating!

Ellen: Uh, he wants Bobby to try the chili to see if it’s-

Alice: Oh, my God

Ellen: if it tastes good. And Bobby’s like, “Eh, it’s pretty good.” Buck’s like, “Come on. It’s missing something. What is it? What is the secret ingredient?” And eventually Bobby tells him that it is cocoa powder.

Bex: It’s not even eventually. Like I would have thought if it was a secret ingredient it would take him longer but he just immediately goes, “It’s cocoa powder.”

Alice: Yeah, Buck’s like, “It’s me.”

Bex: He’s gonna add the cocoa.

Ellen: Buck is his pr- his protege.

Alice: “Look how c- look how cute I am!” And Bobby’s like, “Okay, buddy. It’s cocoa powder.”

Ellen: One teaspoon.

Alice: Um, even, yeah, unsweetened cocoa powder in the cabinet above the sink, one tablespoon. Apparently goes well in chili.

Bex: It does.

Ellen: I have heard of people putting chocolate in their, um, like bolognese [00:52:00] sauce and stuff. I haven’t tried it myself, but-

Bex: Yeah …

Ellen: apparently it’s good, so.

Bex: It is good. Uh, apparently the fact that Bobby was able to, um, identify the missing ingredient in Buck’s chili is all the confirmation that Buck needs that Bobby knows everything and he will always figure everything out. Because he helped Buck figure out the chili so he will figure out what is going on with Wendell.

Alice: Then we get May and Athena talking about Bobby.

Bex: Uh, except that whatever Bobby was slipping into her food, um, it, it must have been Kool-Aid because she’s now on board with whatever theory that Bobby has, um, concocted.

Alice: Oh yeah, she’s made a fake Instagram and everything.

Bex: Yeah. Um, so sh- J- or she made Jada an Instagram.

Um, and then she ins- she used Jada to stalk Tamara, because apparently that she found her on Insta. [00:53:00] I didn’t think that they were close enough to sort of exchange Insta handles when they were, um, doing the tour, but either she did or May is just really, really good at finding people online.

Alice: It’s just like “Tamara Rehab” and she’s like, “Oh, this is probably her.”

Bex: Well, I wouldn’t be surprised if that were actually her account name. ‘Cause apparently the Instagram account was all about documenting her healing journey.

Ellen: Yeah.

Bex: Um, and May compared, May looked at the dates of all of the posts and realized that, um, there was a gap in the posting on her account of the day that Wendell probably died.

And May and Athena come to the conclusion that this is incontrovertible proof that Tamara was at the rehab when Wendell died.

Alice: Yeah. Maybe she killed Wendell.

Bex: Honestly, that would make more sense-

Alice: Yeah …

Bex: than anything else they’re gonna come up [00:54:00] with. We also in this little exchange get actual confirmation, um, that Bobby thinks that the facility killed Wendell.

Ellen: Yeah.

Bex: Because at the end of last season when we got the start of the Wendell storyline, it was Bobby, um, was like devastated that Wendell had been using, um, that he’d gone out into the field to shoot up and then somehow died.

And then there was the implication that he thought the rehab facility was involved, but they never actually came out and said that they, that Bobby thought that the rehab center killed him. But now we actually get it in black and white. Bobby thought that he died at the facility and they moved him to the field to dispose of his body

Alice: Or to make it look like it wasn’t their, like it didn’t happen under their supervision or whatever.

Bex: Yeah.

Alice: Like he just went out and shot out- shot up on his own. [00:55:00]

Bex: Yeah.

Ellen: Yeah, this little scene doesn’t really give the reason that they think that. May just says that-

Bex: No

Ellen: … “You said that you thought he died at the facility and they moved him to the field,” but they don’t, we don’t find out why they think that. It’s just a hunch that Bobby has at this point. I don’t know. I

Bex: think it’s pretty much Bobby just like, “Wendell was clean. Wendell was fine. I would’ve known if something were wrong, if he were using again. Wendell would never use again. Um, if he was using again, it was not him,” sort of that kind of line of thinking.

But they, they never actually … It’s all sort of … For once, they didn’t spell it out for the, the people on the phone. Yeah. It’s, it’s very am- it’s just all sort of amorphous and you have to try and piece to- the puzzle together yourself.

Ellen: [00:56:00] Yep.

Bex: Which I’m not used to in this show. No.

Alice: Honestly, I just don’t care.

Bex: They don’t … No, there’s also that I don’t really care about this storyline.

Ellen: Well, we have to go and have a, the, you know, the relationship, um, unloading, uh, to, of, you know, Chim’s feelings mostly. Um, so they’re, Chim and Buck and Eddie are on top of the trucks, uh, cleaning them. And, you know, he’s talking about, “Am I a jerk for not wanting to have a relationship with my jerk of a father?” Oh, hang on. Eddie’s not cleaning. He is throwing a baseball, uh, with Hen on the ground.

Bex: Yeah, Buck and Chim are up on the trucks. Eddie and, um, Hen are playing catch.

Ellen: That’s right.

Bex: I’m assuming that Hen is trying to help Denny, sorry, Dee, break in the mitt a little bit faster-

Ellen: Yeah

Bex: by actually, or [00:57:00] she’s come to Eddie and gone, “Hey, Dee now wants to play baseball,” and so Eddie having been a baseball player is helping her, like, get some pointers and get a little bit of knowledge about the game. It’s incredibly random. We’ve never seen them do anything with sports balls in-

Ellen: It does seem quite random-

Bex: the station house before

Ellen: … But also kind of really cute that she’s trying to get involved, if that’s what’s happening here But yeah.

Bex: I do love that Chim calls it out too. Like, they’re talking about their parents and, um, the lack of drama in his life is unnatural, like Eddie and Hen tossing a ball around.

Ellen: Yeah.

Alice: I guess that’s unnatural, yeah.

Ellen: It’s a, it’s a, it’s a short scene.

Alice: But yeah, shut up, Eddie. Chim, Chim doesn’t have to expose his daughter to the toxic relationship, like the toxicness of his father just because [00:58:00] they’re related.

Bex: Yeah, but when you’re coming from Eddie, like Eddie still, like still sort of sends Christopher to spend time with his grandparents even though Eddie himself doesn’t like his parents. So that kind of tracks for Eddie.

Alice: Yeah. Good for Eddie. Yeah, I’m just mad about that whole… Yeah. Anyway.

Ellen: Really? I would never have known.

Alice: Um, people out there- Anyway. Um … if your parents are shit, you do not have to expose your child to the shit person. In fact, if your parents have traumatized you, maybe don’t make them ch- let them traumatize your child.

Ellen: Mm-hmm

Alice: Uh, anyway, then we get the, a scene that honestly I just sort of checked out of. Um-

Ellen: This was an amazing scene- I was so confused … but in like a really, like insane way. Like this-

Alice: Yeah, it’s-

Ellen: So there’s more lightning, so okay. The actual premise of it is absolutely [00:59:00] ridiculous. But like they, they did it in such a way that I was like chewing my fingernails off watching it and I was-

Bex: Wait, the-

Ellen: I was so relieved at the end that everyone was okay that I was like in tears. So you know, it got me.

Bex: Like which, when you s- like which part? The, like the actual accident or the aftermath of the accident, or the consequences of the accident?

Ellen: No, the, the ac- the accident itself was whatever. Like I, at first I was laughing because this woman-

Bex: Yeah

Ellen: in this car is like in labor, and she’s called this Uber or whatever to k- to take her to the hospital, and the guy is just like driving going, freaking the fuck out because this woman is like screaming in the back of the car. And she is-

Bex: Yep …

Ellen: having an amazing time playing this woman who is deep in labor and screaming her head off.

Bex: Yes.

Ellen: Um, and she’s like-

Bex: Yeah, um- …

Ellen: “We’re gonna be fine!”

Bex: … Sergei does not, does not want… Yeah, Sergei does not want a baby being born in the back of his car. Um,

Ellen: so it’s a really messy- Understandably. [01:00:00] Yeah.

Bex: Yeah. She’s fine. She says like, “Her water’s already broken, so there’s gonna be no mess.” Um, I was just really annoyed that throughout this entire emergency this woman never gets a name Like, we meet Sergei, we find out that this woman is queer, we find that she’s married, we find that she’s already got one kid on the way, and yet we never find, we never get told her name.

Alice: Yeah. Huh.

Bex: So anyway, um, unnamed woman in labor, um, sort of yells at Sergei that they’re going to keep going, and she’s coaching him through driving her to the hospital even as she’s coaching herself through her contractions, to the point where she’s doing, like, her Lamaze breathing and Sergei is joining in.

Um-

Ellen: She’s like, “Breathe in, breathe out.” Breathe out. Out through your mouth.

Bex: And Sergei is like- Good, good, good … “Breathe in, breathe out.” And it’s all going fine, um, until the car gets struck by lightning.

Ellen: Yeah, here [01:01:00] we go again.

Bex: Yeah. Um-

Alice: ‘Cause remember-

Bex: Which is-

Alice: … there’s a storm happening.

Bex: …’Cause there’s a storm. Um, normally that would probably be okay because, you know, the rubber is an insulator and so the lightning would just go straight through.

As long as you’re not touching the metal frame of the car, you’ll be fine. Um, except the lightning strike deploys all the airbags, which means Sergei can’t see where he’s driving, and by the time he gets the airbag out of the way, um, they’ve veered into oncoming traffic. So Sergei continues to veer out of oncoming traffic onto, like, the shoulder of the road where there’s…

I don’t know how this happened, ’cause it looks like he hits a, like a trash can, like one of those big sort of metal cans that, you know, homeless people set fires in. Um, and that is solid enough to send the car flipping through the air several times, and then the, and also the impact with the, the barrel makes [01:02:00] the car explode.

Alice: Yeah. And so it flips through the air- Like, if you can’t see because your airbag’s gone off, the brake. Hit the brake.

Bex: That would… Yes. Yes. I have a feeling that, like, even if he had swerved into oncoming traffic and hit the brake and been, like, hit by cars on either side, that would’ve been less traumatic and dramatic than, you know, rolling through the air a couple of times, continuing to roll once you hit the ground, um- And then sort of spinning around in a circle before coming to a stop.

Ellen: But it would- Yeah … not be anywhere near as dramatic for the story.

Bex: Absolutely not.

Ellen: And so the car, the car is now upside down and on fire.

Bex: But still manages to call 9-1-1.

Ellen: No, d- Yeah … his phone calls 9-1-1

Bex: Because Josh gets a call-

Alice: Good, good job car

Ellen: Or the car

Bex: … Josh gets a call from the car. Yeah. Um, he says, “My owner has-

Alice: I don’t know if it’s the car or the phone. It, ’cause it just says the owner of th- this device, and I’m like, I-

Ellen: Yeah. It could [01:03:00] be either

Bex: I’m gonna say it’s the car.

Ellen: Yeah. Yes.

Bex: It could be the phone. Anyway, something that Sergei has, has called 9-1-1 for him, and helpfully-

Alice: Yeah

Bex: … gives Josh the latitude and longitude and a search radius, um, for the device.

Ellen: And thankfully Josh-

Bex: Car, phone, whatever

Ellen: … is on the ball so he’s able to type in the lat longs as it is being said, which, because there is no way you can remember all those numbers just, uh as th- the machine is rolling it out. But the-

Bex: And I don’t think you can get the machine to repeat it.

Ellen: No, I know. So the, the, the 118 is able to get to exactly where this car is, and still not very on fire, but it is still on fire. So they, they obviously haven’t taken very long to get there, thank goodness.

Bex: Yes.

Ellen: They, they knock the fire down and try and work out what the hell’s going on. So this whole time this scene is happening, it’s quite tense and I have no clue what is going on at [01:04:00] any given moment in this scene. Like, there’s just people everywhere. Everyone’s shouting. It’s like-

Alice: Yeah, again, I was watching this on my phone in the whelping box, and it’s really hard to see what the fuck is going on.

Ellen: It’s quite dark, yeah. The scene itself is quite dark, ’cause it’s nighttime.

Alice: And like, Hen was, like, murmuring to Sergei the whole time. While, like, all the action-

Ellen: Yeah, ’cause I mean, the car’s upside down and like-

Alice: I dunno, it’s fucking weird.

Ellen: … kinda crushed from the t- from the roof, so they’re trying to get inside there to, ’cause they can’t open the doors. They can’t cut it because of the leaking fuel. So-

Alice: Yeah, and they can’t risk the sparks

Bex: No, yeah, so they, they send Buck off to get the saw, um, so they can, you know, cut the doors open. Um, he notices the dripping fluid and vetoes the saw, like that’s too dangerous. Um, so instead they use the [01:05:00] halligans and a sledgehammer.

Ellen: Yeah, they’re trying to prise the doors open. Yeah. And surely that’s-

Bex: Yeah, basically. I mean, it’s, it’s-

Ellen: … just gonna shake the car around and injure-

Bex: I was more thinking like the halligan’s are metal and looks like the sledgehammer was also metal, so wouldn’t that also possibly throw off sparks, like metal on metal? Anyway.

Ellen: Less than the saw.

Bex: Um.

Ellen: I guess.

Alice: I guess.

Bex: Yeah, possib- Yeah I guess. Anyway, so yeah, so you’ve got Chim and Hen working on Sergei who is being crushed by the steering wheel and apparently has flail chest. Um, so he’s struggling to breathe. Bobby and Buck are working on the woman in the back seat, um, who they discover is, who Bobby realizes is pregnant.

Alice: Or at least was.

Bex: Well, they, she’s pregnant and so they’re trying to get her out the car, but then they’re, as they’re getting her out of the car Bobby realizes that the umbilical cord is quote unquote [01:06:00] “out.”

Ellen: Ugh.

Alice: Yeah, I just, I don’t- Sorry … I don’t understand any of this.

Ellen: This is so weird.

Alice: So- Like, it’s The umbilical cord is out, so it’s h- I’m assuming it’s hanging out of her?

Bex: Well, yeah, because the baby has been quote unquote “ejected,” and so the umbil- umbilical cord is sort of connected to the baby which is still sort of connected to the placenta which is inside of her.

Alice: Yeah.

Bex: Yeah.

Alice: Which is fine because if the baby’s out and still connected to the placenta- But y- … that’s fine

Ellen: But she, they- Because- They say something about how you’ve only got a few minutes before…

Bex: Oh, that bit was so stupid. Yeah. Yeah. So- So as they’re trying, as they’re trying to get mum out of the car, apparently the, um, the umbilical cord stretches and then snaps.

Alice: It snaps. I don’t understand how that

Bex: works-

Alice: Which, no?

… because they’re quite… They’re quite [01:07:00] sp- like, they’re very spongy. They don’t, they’re, they’re not just gonna snap. Like, it’s not a piece of glass.

Bex: Yes. It’s, it’s-

Alice: Um, so they said the umbilical cord… So the first line about the umbilical cord is “the umbilical cord is out,” and then while they’re getting her out of the car Bobby says, “Umbilical cord is out,” and I’m like, “Yeah, you already said that.”

Bex: Yeah, no, but there’s stuff-

Alice: And then Hen says, “Lift it up, that’s the main blood supply,” and I’m like, “I, what?”

Bex: So I mean, the l- the logic is that, um- The, the cord has snapped, so therefore it’s like an open wound at either end of the umbilical cord. And so any blood that was in the umbilical cord is going to drain out the other end-

Alice: Yes. So yes, they can-

Bex: … rather than going to the baby

Alice: Like, if you don’t clamp it, it can… Like, I’d literally just delivered six babies-

Bex: Yes. Yes.

Alice: … four weeks, less than four weeks ago, right?

Bex: So- But y- but it’s not the, it’s not the main blood supply-

Alice: Yes, we had one-

Bex: … because mum is the main blood [01:08:00] supply. Now that the umbilical cord is cut, there is no blood supply anymore.

Alice: Yeah. So we had one, the first puppy that was born, um, the umbilical cord, like, um, shredded on the way. Like, puppies’ placentas are a little different. Their umbilical cords are very small ’cause puppies are very small. So the umbilical cord shredded as it came out because he was delivered very quickly.

Ellen: Mm-hmm.

Alice: Um, and so we clamp the cords. Generally, the c- the cord comes out, we clamp it, and then we cut it above the clamp, and we leave the clamp on until it’s sealed, right?

Bex: Yep. Yes.

Alice: Um, this one, it cl- um, went too close, and so it wasn’t clotting properly. So we actually had to get a piece of thread and tie it around the umbilical cord, which is very tricky with a wet thing.

Um, anyway, but you can just, like, before we found the bit of string, we were literally just, we had the clamp on it, and then we were just holding it with our fingers while we put the thread around it.

Bex: Which is what Bobby or Buck could’ve been doing. At this point-

Alice: [01:09:00] Yeah

Bex: … they didn’t need to be, like, holding it in the air.

Alice: Like, I don’t know why Hen’s like, “Lift it up.” I’m like, “What do you mean lift it up?” But, like, Bobby said, “The umbilical cord’s out,” and then was like, “The umbilical cord’s out.” What, like he, he meant that the umbilical cord was cut, but that’s how it works Yeah And then she goes, “You’ve got two, maybe three minutes before the baby’s brain dead.”

And I’m like-

Bex: I was like, “No”

Alice: No, that’s, it’s just-

Ellen: The baby can breathe now

Alice: … the baby’s just been born. Yeah, the ba- as soon as the umbilical, as soon as they’re out-

Ellen: They start to breathe

Alice: … and the umbilical cord’s detached from the placenta, they start to breathe. That’s how it works.

Bex: Yes.

Ellen: Yeah.

Bex: Yeah.

Alice: Like, you might have to rub them a bit- They no longer- … but it’s, it’s okay bec- like, it, what?

Bex: They can get oxygen from the air now. They don’t need-

Alice: They can just breathe … oxygen from the blood Yeah, it’s got lungs

Ellen: Maybe it’s-

Alice: Like, I don’t understand any, none of this made sense as someone who literally just delivered six children

Ellen: Maybe it’s because they can’t hear the baby. They can’t hear the baby crying, therefore the baby’s not breathing.

Bex: Okay, no, that makes sense because if they’re saying the umbilical cord is cut but they can’t hear the baby crying, [01:10:00] unfortunately they don’t explain any of that in the dialogue.

Ellen: No, they don’t.

Bex: They don’t.

Alice: They don’t, yeah, they just say-

Ellen: They don’t

Alice: the umbilical cord’s out, and then, uh, the umbilical cord’s out, and I’m like, “Yes, we already said that.” And then I’m looking and I’m like, okay, I think they mean that the umbilical cord’s now cut.

Bex: Yeah

Alice: Somehow.

Bex: The whole you’ve got two or three minutes before the baby is brain dead comes immediately after the umbilical cord is cut, so the implication is she’s talking about the umbilical cord, not the fact that the baby isn’t breathing yet.

Alice: Yeah, like it don-

Bex: And we’d know if the baby was breathing because it would be crying.

Ellen: That’s the only-

Alice: Yeah

Ellen: … explanation that makes any sense to me. I don’t

Bex: Yes.

Alice: But it does- It’s- The w- it, it makes no s- it’s like they’ve never b- they’re like, “Oh, the umbilical cord. That’s how the baby breathes.” It’s like, what?

Bex: It’s f- it feels like one of those things when you’re writing and, like, you know in your head what you want, what’s going on in a scene. Maybe you’ve gone over this scene so many times you know exactly what’s happening, but there is a disconnect between what’s [01:11:00] in your head and what you actually put down because you could as- you, when you actually start typing it and writing it out, you assume everyone is seeing what’s in your head.

Alice: Yeah, but even, like-

Bex: It feels like that. Like, what-

Alice: … I’m watching the episode and I have no fucking idea what’s going on

Ellen: Yeah.

Bex: No, because the writer thought that they had put what was in their head and what they meant on the, in the dialogue, except they didn’t. They didn’t. Because they’re missing a few very crucial words and lines in here.

Alice: It’s so fucking weird. I don’t understand

Ellen: Anyway, long story short, they do actually find the baby.

Alice: Yeah, the baby’s, like, wedged up under the seat or above the seat-

Ellen: I don’t know how the baby got there

Alice: … or on the parcel shelf. I don’t fucking know. Uh. And its leg’s stuck or something And so instead of like trying to, like instead of trying to get the baby to breathe while it’s just l- its leg’s stuck, they’re just like, “Oh my God, we’ve gotta do something about it. Oh no, what’s going… Oh no, the halligan, rah, rah.” And I’m like, “Just rub the baby while it’s stuck.” Like-

Bex: See, I was okay with that point. So I was like, okay, Buck gets in [01:12:00] with the halligan. Apparently reading Bobby’s mind, because Bobby didn’t actually tell Buck to bring the halligan, he just told Buck to get in there.

But Buck brings the halligan, so it’s fine. He like uses that to alleviate some of the pressure on the baby so they can get the baby out. I’m okay with that point. The point that I get stuck on is you’ve now got an unresponsive non-breathing baby, and Bobby’s still just sitting in the car like going, “Shush, it’s okay, it’s okay, it’s okay, it’s okay.”

Like giving these little pats on the back. I’m like, dude, at this point you get out of the car-

Ellen: You get into the ambulance

Bex: … and you hand the non-responsive baby-

Alice: Exactly, yeah

Bex: … to a paramedic-

Alice: Give, give it to a paramedic Yeah It’s so fucking weird. He’s just-

Bex: Who can start like CPR or at least like slapping the baby around until you shock it into breathing.

Ellen: Yeah, and get, get on your way to the hospital, please.

Alice: They keep cutting to Hen just like muttering to Sergei and like whispering sweet nothings. She’s, she’s like, “I know it hurts to breathe. You’ll be okay. You just need to push through until the medication kicks.” It’s like, the fu- I don’t… What?

Bex: Because she’s-

Alice: It’s just-

Bex: She, she’s [01:13:00] doing like she’s- She’s sticking a needle in, like a really big ass needle into him to try and help him breathe.

Alice: I get it. It’s just the way that the cuts work is real fucking weird. Because Hen’s literally, like, yelling at everyone else and then just, like, murmuring to the th- It was just, it was a, it was just weird. It was weird. Um-

Bex: The, the thing to-

Ellen: And meanwhile, the, the, the mum is, like, screaming on the, like she’s started screaming.

Alice: Oh my God, she does not stop screaming. Which I think is also why it’s so chaotic.

Ellen: Yeah

Alice: Because she just screams the entire fucking time.

Bex: To be fair, she’s still in labor.

Alice: And it’s like, “Okay, I get it. Shut the fuck up.” Yeah.

Bex: She’s still in labor.

Alice: I get it

Bex: Because her body has not realized that the baby’s actually out, and she still needs to pass the placenta. She’s still got-

Ellen: She’s like, “Where’s the baby?” She’s still a labor. She’s like, “Where’s the baby? Where’s the baby?” It’s like, oh my God.

Bex: And yeah, so she’s also, like, she’s in labor, so she’s in pain, and then there’s the, “Holy shit, my baby’s not inside me anymore.”

Alice: It’s just fucking weird.

Bex: “Where is my baby?” Um-

Ellen: It’s very chaotic

Bex: … like to, the absolute cherry on top to keep the whole, like, Buck is gonna be a [01:14:00] dad thing going, Bobby finally, uh, like it’s a, it’s a miracle at this point, the baby actually starts breathing, so he hands the baby to Buck.

Alice: Yeah.

Bex: And Buck’s just-

Alice: Sure

Bex: …staring at this little baby like he’s never seen a baby before. We’re forgetting about the whole thing in, like, season one where he delivered, like, 15 babies on the night of the full moon. So he’s-

Alice: Yeah … all the- Like literally the pilot episode he takes-

Bex: All the, yeah

Alice: … a baby out from the drain and runs it down a th- Like he’s just like, “Ah,this is what a baby looks like.” It’s like, “Yes, we’ve been through this.”

Bex: Yes, but it’s like, but now, like, I’m gonna be responsible for one of these. Um-

Alice: But he’s not

Bex: … and there’s a lot of- No, he’s donor, not dad. Yeah. But the episode is, but it’s still like,

Alice: it’s fucking weird is what it is.

Ellen: It’s kind of adorable.

Alice: Um, and then ins- like then the baby starts crying, so instead of giving it to a paramedic, because it’s apparently the umbilical cord’s magically fallen off now, um, they just give it to the mum. [01:15:00]

Bex: I think at some point they do get a clamp. Some paramedic finally, like, remembers-

Alice: It’s just weird

Bex: … that they’ve got clamps in a kit somewhere and they, they do actually clamp it so they don’t have to keep holding it up like an IV, um, tube- … in the field.

Alice: Which wouldn’t work anyway. Oh my god. Yeah. I don’t understand. Anyway, they should call this baby Storm. Um-

Ellen: Yeah

Alice: … just for reasons.

Bex: 10 to one it ends up being called Sergei.

Ellen: Maybe.

Alice: Sergei did nothing. He crashed the fucking car. He can’t even use the brake. If anything, it should be called Hen, even though it’s a boy. Don’t care. Um-

Bex: Henderson

Alice: names are all-

Bex: That still works.

Alice: Yeah. Names are all made up anyway. Um- Fucking hell, it’s just, it’s so chaotic, and I don’t understand any of it, and I don’t think they’ve ever seen the birth of a baby before.

Ellen: [01:16:00] No, but at the same time it was, it was so tense.

Alice: I mean, the ejection of a baby.

Ellen: I actually really, I actually really enjoyed this scene just because it was so tense. And at the end I was like, “Oh my God, thank God the baby’s okay.”

Alice: Yeah. You like babies, so yeah.

Ellen: Yeah.

Bex: No, no, no, no, like- It was, it’s an absolutely stupid scene when you’re looking at it, and I do, as I was watching it, I was getting hung up on the, like, the medical side of the whole baby part. But the music, the way they cut back and forward, the chaos of everyone shouting, um, it is very effective at, like, building the tension.

And you- Yeah … it is, like-

Alice: It’s probably better when you’re not watching it on a phone screen as well

Bex: … on the edge of your seat.

Ellen: Yes, when you can actually see what’s going on.

Alice: Because I could not see a thing that was fucking happening.

Ellen: Yeah. Yeah, you, you, that would be better if you could see what was happening. But even, like, watching it on a, on a, on my computer monitor, it was still hard to work out what was actually happening a lot of the time-

Alice: Yeah

Ellen: … because it was dark and, you know.

Alice: Oh, yeah. It’s so dark. Yeah.

Ellen: Yeah. [01:17:00] Anyway, uh, that’s the end of that scene.

Alice: Back to Jada.

Ellen: Uh, we’ve gotta go back to May bailing up this Tamara chick. So Tamara is at a flower market. I don’t even know where she is.

Bex: I’m assuming so. It, I mean, it looked like the same garden location that the rehab is in, but all of the flowers are now in buckets, and there’s, like, a shit ton of them, so I’m guessing it’s a flower market.

Alice: Yeah.

Bex: How Jada found her, I don’t know.

Ellen: No.

Bex: Um-

Alice: She post- she checked in on Instagram.

Ellen: Jada? This is May.

Alice: She’s like, “I’m shopping for flowers for my dodgy rehab job.”

Bex: Um, and Jada does, like, the worst acting job of, like, the double take. Like, “Oh my God, Tamara, I can’t believe that you’re here even though, like, I stalked your Instagram and tracked you here.”

Um, second only to Tamara’s, um, “Oh my God, hi. What are you doing here? Oh my God, it’s [01:18:00] so late. I need to go right now. I can’t talk.”

Ellen: May’s like, “Uh, can we just have a talk? Nothing, I have no ulterior motive. I just need to work some stuff out.” Um, Tamara tries to get her to talk to Carrie and Trey. They’re the, the owners of the rehab place.

Bex: Oh, hey, we got a name for the dude. Excellent.

Ellen: Yeah. Uh-

Bex: Not that it matters. He’s- doesn’t show up again this episode, but …

Ellen: But May says she doesn’t trust those guys, and at this point, Tamara starts looking extra, extra shady. Uh, and then realizes that May is onto her kind of thing, so she’s like, ” Are you some kind of cop or something? Like, what do you want?” May just comes right out and says-

Alice: Or something, yep.

Ellen: It’s like gives up the go- Yeah … gives up the game.

Alice: My, my-

Ellen: She’s like, “Oh.”

Alice: “My friend died.”

Ellen: Yeah.

Alice: ” Where did, what happened to him? Did you kill him?”

Ellen: Basically asks her that.

Alice: Tamara just said [01:19:00] that he OD’d in a field. Oh, he OD, OD’d in a field and was smoking, and Jada, Jada’s like … Sorry, May, she’s dropped her cover now. Um, May’s like, “Wendell didn’t smoke, you know that. You were in the same program as him.” Okay.

Bex: So she sends, puts out this big sob story, yada, yada, yada. Apparently Tamara is inc- feeling incredibly guilty because she, um, she stays and listens to this entire sob story, and it, it starts making her cry.

Um, and she turns around to tell May/Jada, um, but we’re never gonna find out what she actually says, ’cause we have to go back to the murder house.

Alice: Yeah. ‘

Bex: Cause we’re gonna drag this story out and for, like, eons.

Alice: Yeah.

Ellen: Apparently.

Alice: Oh, May also goes on about someone she loves, someone who’s in recovery, got addicted to pain pill and booze ’cause of a back injury. And, like, just starts tangenting about Bobby, and [01:20:00] it’s like, “What? What are you talking about?”

Bex: No, it does make sense, ’cause she’s like, you know, um, Bobby likes to say that the addiction wasn’t because of the actual, like, the physical pain in his back, it was the, um, the pain that he was carrying around, like metaphorically.

Um, and he couldn’t kick his addiction until he let go of the pain that he was metaphorically carrying around. Don’t you also want to let go of your metaphorical pain that you are carrying around that is causing you to continue to relapse? Which is- Yep … at which point Tamara’s like, “Yes, please help me.”

Alice: Mm.

Bex: I killed Wendell.

Alice: So much pain. Yeah, that’s it.

Bex: Uh, no, but first we’re, um, we’re gonna go back to the murder house where- Everyone is still hanging around and having lunch. I don’t know. Buck’s brought Chinese food, and he starts unpacking all the food in the kitchen. Albert comes to help-

Ellen: [01:21:00] Yeah, so then this is-

Bex: When Buck gets a notification

Ellen: the next day, right? ‘Cause like they were-

Bex: I think so

Ellen: … none of them staying there, but they’re all still there

Bex: Still hanging around. Yeah. Like how big is the murder house that it’s gonna take them a couple of days to see it? Although I’m ass- I’m guessing that it’s gone beyond the tour of the murder house and it’s now like hanging with Jee.

Ellen: Yeah, well they’re all-

Alice: Yeah, I guess so

Ellen: … in town to see Jee, I guess so.

Bex: Yep.

Ellen: Anyway, sorry.

Bex: Um, so Buck gets a notification and, uh, it’s really cute, ’cause he gets a notification, he kind of looks up to, for someone to tell, ’cause he’s really excited about what the notification was, and the only person that’s standing there is Albert.

Um, so he’s like, “Hey Albert, look what I just got.” Um, and Connor and Chum are-

Alice: Like to be fair, Buck and Albert used to be like housemates. Yes. They used to live together. They did used to be friends. But he shows Albert with zero context. Um, because apparently he [01:22:00] assumed that Chimney would tell him, and Al- Chimney did not tell Albert, so Albert is very fucking confused why Buck is showing him a sonogram.

Bex: Yeah. And in the time that it takes these two to figure out that neither of them like really understand what is going on here, Margaret walks up behind them and sees the picture of the sonograph on Buck’s phone, um, and assumes that Buck has knocked some chick up.

Alice: Yep.

Uh, which is also to be fair- And when- Which is also what Albert assumed as well.

Bex: Um, and when Buck is like a little bit hesitant to tell Margaret about the, the chick that he’s knocked up, she immediately pivots to, “Oh, it’s not yours, it must be Maddie’s.”

Ellen: Yeah, there’s a lot of, uh- Yeah … assuming going on here.

Alice: A lot of jumping to conclusions.

Ellen: Yes. Yes.

Alice: Um, she doesn’t even, she doesn’t even, she’s like, [01:23:00] “Oh my God, you’re gonna be an uncle again. Philip, Maddie and Howard are gonna have another baby.” Philip’s like, “Oh my God, that’s fantastic.” It’s so- “This is so good.” And Chim and Maddie are like, “What the fuck is happening?

I don’t think we’re pregnant.”

Bex: It’s almost like Margaret, um, Margaret immediately just dismisses the idea of Buck being a father.

Alice: Yeah.

Bex: Like the, if she, if he had told her it is actually my kid, she would have like absolutely spit it. Um, it’s much more palatable that it’s Chim and Maddie’s, except it’s news to them that they’re pregnant again, ’cause-

Ellen: Yeah.

Bex: Yeah, Chim thought we are … as far as they were concerned, they’re not. Um, so Buck has to fess up. It’s like, um, the baby, the, like the sonograph, um, belongs… Is the, the baby is a friend of mine’s baby. Um, one of my old roommates, um, he’s having a baby boy.

And Margaret’s like, “Oh, that’s nice. You know, he’s keeping you up to date. He sent you the sonograph.” And Buck’s like, “Well, actually, [01:24:00] um, I kinda helped him get pregnant. Like, not him, like his wife. Like, I didn’t actually like fuck his wife but she was having trouble with fertility and like I’m the sperm donor.” And it’s

Alice: like, Buck just, just shut up. Buck stop. Buck no.

Bex: Yeah.

Um, and like the P- the Buckleys are like, “So you’re a s- they asked you to be a sperm donor and you said yes?” And he’s waiting for the other shoe to drop thinking that they’re going to absolutely hit the roof. And Margaret’s like, “I think that’s so good. I think that’s great. Like you were a miracle baby and now you’re helping other people have miracle babies. It’s wonderful.”

Ellen: Yeah.

Alice: Y- yeah, sure.

Ellen: So everyone’s just like, “What?” Or, well Maddie at least- Yeah … can’t believe it.

Bex: Yeah. M- Maddie’s like, “Who, who are these people and what did they do with my parents?”

Ellen: [01:25:00] Yeah.

Bex: ‘Cause this is not Margaret and Philip Buckley.

Ellen: But it’s not them who have a problem with it.

Alice: Uh, not only that, Margaret called him Buck. Like the shock, most shocking- She- … part of this scene is that she called him Buck.

Bex: No, she is trying. Like the last time they had a big kick, like a big stink, um, and they came to the firehouse and had like their reconciliation and she was, she like very, it took her a lot of effort, but she did call him Buck then. Um, so-

Alice: Still shocking

Bex: … but it, it’s nice that it rolls off the tongue now. Uh, but yeah, it’s, it’s not the Buckleys that, um, that have an issue with Buck being a sperm donor. Um, it’s Chim’s dad.

Alice: Yeah.

Ellen: Mm-hmm. Yes. Apparently a man cannot raise a child fathered by another man. It’s unnatural according to him.

Bex: Yeah. He actually asks Buck’s dad, like, “Are you going to allow this?” And like, it’s a little bit late [01:26:00] for that. Like, the-

Alice: Yeah …

Bex: the cat’s already out of the bag.

Alice: Well, it’s like, it’s not for me to allow. Um, but yeah, when, um, when Chim’s dad says that it’s, like, it’s unnatural to raise a child fathered by another man, um, Chim of course is like, “Um, excuse me? Like, says the expert in child rearing.” And then he goes, “I would think you would relate to Buck’s decision. Father them and then let someone else raise them.” And it’s like, oh.

Ellen: Oh, no. You hit him right where it hurts- Um … Mr. Han.

Alice: Albert’s like, “Oh, fuck.” Buck’s like, “Whoa. Down, boy.” And yeah, it all blows up. So Chim’s dad says, “A man who cannot control his family is not a man.”

And so of course Philip bites back with, “Maybe a man who’s too controlling force- who’s too controlling forces his sons to hide from him in another country.”

Ellen: Rarely would I agree with, with Buck’s dad, but- Yeah … uh, today apparently- Yeah … I do. Um. [01:27:00]

Bex: Uh, Margaret steps in and, like, very sweetly asks what the fuck it has to do with Mr. Han anyway, because it’s, like, a Buckley family drama. Um, and then, uh, his wife pipes up, ’cause, you know, she’s feeling mis- she’s feeling left out in this whole thing, and says, “Well, you know, um-” He, Buck did sort of announce it to everybody, therefore everybody who heard it is now involved in this.

And Buck’s like, “I didn’t exactly announce it to everyone. Wasn’t my choice.”

Alice: Yeah, didn’t mean to. He just- Bit of an accident.

Ellen: Yeah … except you kind of did announce it to everyone in the room where everyone was, even if you didn’t mean to announce it to everyone.

Bex: Yeah. You could, you could have just stopped at, “It’s my friend’s kid,” and left it at that.

Ellen: Yeah.

Alice: Yeah.

Bex: But, um, thankfully, um, Zeus has been listening to all of this and he’s like, like he knows family drama. He knows how bad it can get. Hates …

Alice: Oh, Zeus just- So he- Zeus just really hates unborn children in this [01:28:00] episode. Sonogram? No.

Bex: Likes fucking other w- Likes fucking other women, doesn’t want the kids. Um, so he decides it’s a perfect time to like send a bolt of lightning down and kills the electricity in the house.

Alice: Yeah.

Bex: So everyone sort of goes scattering trying to find candles. Jee comes running out of the bedroom and they’re like, “Oh, did the lightning scare you?” And Maddie’s sort of like, “No, all you fuckheads yelling woke her up and scared her.”

Ellen: Yeah. And everyone looks at their feet like, “Sorry, Jee.”

Bex: “Sorry, Mom.” Yeah.

Um, the electricity in the murder house must be pretty shit because we then cut to the Wilsons and they’re fine. They’ve got electricity.

Alice: Yeah, they’re good. Hen’s doing laundry.

Ellen: Yeah, and when she comes in, I guess she comes into Denny’s room. Yeah, he’s sitting on his bed, right?

Bex: Yeah …

Ellen: watching the iPad.

Bex: I think she’s, she’s bringing in clean laundry, ’cause she starts putting it away, but, um, she doesn’t knock.[01:29:00]

She just sort of barges in. And Denny does the … I don’t know what Hen is on, but Denny looks so guilty. Like, he immediately, he was sort of kneeling on his bed holding his iPad up, immediately, like, flies through the air, sitting, ends up sitting on the bed, iPad immediately upside down on the bed so that she can’t see the screen.

Looking like- Yes … buttercup wouldn’t melt in his mouth.

Alice: It’s super fucking sus.

Bex: She doesn’t notice. She just asks him what he’s doing.

Ellen: She’s like-

Bex: He’s like, “Uh-“

Ellen: … “What are you doing?”

Bex: “… baseball stuff?”

Alice: Hen’s, like, a little bit young, didn’t think we’d have to have the talk yet, but. Sure.

Bex: She’s like, “Oh, baseball stuff. You know, like, I know baseball stuff, ’cause Eddie was helping me with baseball stuff. What kind of baseball stuff?”

Alice: Yeah, not all about baseball stuff.

Bex: Denny’s like, “Oh, it’s, it, it’s, it’s stats and, and numbers, you know. It’s, it’s really complicated. You wouldn’t understand.” [01:30:00]

Alice: Yeah. The, the one who did medical school never seen a number before.

Bex: Yeah.

Ellen: She’s like-

Bex: Um

Ellen: … “Just try me.”

Bex: So then Denny immediately does an about-face and starts to go on the attack. And he’s like, “Ugh, you just don’t want me to play baseball at all, do you?”

Ellen: Yeah.

Bex: Like, kid. Oh my God. So he eventually, he gets Hen out of his room. Um, and we find out what he actually was doing, which was FaceTiming with his dad-

Ellen: Ah, dear

Bex: … who is the one that has encouraged the whole interest in baseball, ’cause he wants Denny to meet up so that they can, um, break in the glove, throw a ball back and forth.

Ellen: Yep. ‘Cause that’s what fathers do when you-

Alice: Just what you do

Ellen: … yeah, that’s what fathers do on television.

Bex: Yes. Uh, but [01:31:00] they’re not telling Hen or Karen

Alice: Yeah, which is like-

Bex: They will eventually …

Alice: I understand from Denny, but Nathaniel should fucking know better.

Bex: Yeah. Absolutely.

Alice: Like, he is the adult in this situation. It’s been four months

Ellen: Yeah, he try- And- He sort of tries to tell, to say like, “Look, you have to tell him,” and Denny’s like, “Yeah, I know you’re gonna s- say that we have to tell him, but not yet.” And, and he’s just okay with that. But then- It’s like, think kind-

Bex: Like, “Okay, we’re not gonna tell. When am I going to abduct you then?”

Ellen: Yeah.

Yeah.

Bex: Like, it, it’s like, “So when am I gonna meet up with you without your, like, legal parents’ knowledge or consent?” Oh.

Ellen: Yeah. Yep. It’s pretty dodge.

Bex: It’s so dodge.

Alice: Sus as fuck.

Ellen: Meanwhile, back in the murder house.

Alice: But kids, yes, kids lie, kids d- but yep, Nathaniel is [01:32:00] a fuckhead. Like as soon as Denny showed up on his doorstep, he should have got in contact with Hen

and Karen and gone, “Hey-

Bex: I can’t re-

Alice: … this is happening …

Bex: I can’t remember how they l- how he left his relationship with Hen, ’cause Hen did meet him at some point.

Alice: Yeah, they met him, um, because Eva was like, “Well, he’s gonna file for custody.” And Eva and Hen- Yeah … were like, “Yeah, that’s…” I mean, Hen and Karen were like, “Yeah, that’s not how it works, but sure.”

Um- And yeah, Nathaniel was basically like, “Hey,” like, “He’s doing really well with you guys. I don’t want to rock the boat.”

Bex: Yeah, okay. So that, that would be, I think that’s enough of a, a decent sort of relationship that he could call them up and go, “Hey, by the way, Denny called me. D- Denny showed up on my door.” Like- Yeah … can we-

Alice: Or he should be like-

Bex: Can we pursue-

Alice: … “We can’t do this without your pa- without your, like, parents present.”

Bex: I could [01:33:00] understand if, like, Hen and Karen had kinda put their foot down, like, “You are not gonna see Denny at all,” that, and he’s desperate to see Denny so he’s trying to sort of sneak around them. But I don’t think there’s any precedent that’s been set for that other than, like, he’s a shit human being who doesn’t understand child safety.

Ellen: Yeah, and it’s obvious that-

Bex: Denny is, like, a 10-year-old …

Ellen: even if Denny had said, like, “Yes, my moms are on board with this,” like, now we find out that he doesn’t know, like, that he hasn’t told them.

Alice: Yeah, that’s not … Even if a 10-year-old-

Bex: He would’ve been like, “Okay, cool”

Alice: … yeah, had said, “Oh no, my par- my moms are fine with this. They gave me your details,” it’s like, “Okay, cool. No, I still need to speak to the adults in this situation.”

Ellen: Yeah.

Bex: Yeah But then that wouldn’t be this dramatic as what’s gonna happen, I’m sure. Like we need to do everything for the drama.

Alice: Yeah, absolutely.

Ellen: All right. Meanwhile, at the murder house, [01:34:00] um, it’s still dark, and apparently everyone’s been feeling a little bit sorry for everything, so they start apologizing. Um, Chim’s dad actually apologizes for, you know, what he said. And then, um, Buck’s dad’s like, “Oh, it’s all right. I shouldn’t have fired back,” blah, blah, blah.

And it’s, it’s really sweet because they’re all playing, like with Jee, and Jee’s laughing, and they’re like … It’s quite cute.

 Chim and Albert are talking in the corner and Chim’s like, “Was that an apology that came out of his mouth?” And Albert’s trying to, like, tell him that he, he’s not as bad as he thinks. But Chim’s not having it.

Bex: Yeah, once again.

Ellen: He’s like, “No, you brought him here. He didn’t come here on his own. Stop trying to tell me he’s okay.”

Bex: Then we get a, a slightly strange conversation between Maddie and Buck where, [01:35:00] um, Buck wonders if Maddie has ever thought about what it might be like if Daniel had lived.

And he says that if Daniel had lived, he thinks that it would be just like this, as he’s sort of looking wistfully out at the sort of all of the families gathered in the living room playing with Jee. Yeah. Um, at that point the lights-

Ellen: That’s quite sweet

Bex: … come back on and everybody cheers, ’cause that’s what you do when the lights come back on.

Ellen: It felt ominous, to be honest. It’s- Mostly because I knew what was coming

Bex: Oh, good, ’cause it’s meant to be.

Ellen: But even if I hadn’t known what was coming, it was like,

Alice: hmm,

Ellen: this is all feeling too happy, family.

Alice: No, I’m sure it’s, it’s just a really hol- wholesome ending to the episode.

Ellen: Yeah.

Alice: I’m sure this is the end. Oh no, it’s still going. Oh, the 118 are on call. I’m sure this is fine. They’re always on call.

Ellen: It’s totally fine. Um-

Alice: Probably no issues here

Ellen: … and it’s finally started raining. Apparently the thunderstorm has-

Bex: Like the storm hasn’t stopped …

Ellen: the storm has-

Bex: The storm is still going …

Ellen: descended in the atmosphere enough for it to actually rain.

Bex: Yes. [01:36:00] Yes. So I don’t know if that makes it better or worse. D- Maybe better because now you can actually like anticipate the storm more.

Ellen: Well,

Bex: it- Like you can see where the clouds are …

Ellen: it’s absolutely chucking it down.

Bex: Yes.

Ellen: Which isn’t ideal for driving

Bex: a big truck through rain. Um, and the 118- No, but they’re on, they are on their way to MacArthur Park, uh, where there is a massive structure fire.

‘Cause- Yep … you know, they’re actual fi- they’re firefighters and, you know, they actually fight-

Alice: They’re firefighters

Bex: … fires.

Ellen: Yeah. Yeah. Occasionally there’s actually an actual fire to fight.

Alice: We do need to mention like, so Buck is filling in Eddie about-

Ellen: Yeah, he is …

Alice: um, like the the whole, the night and Eddie’s like, “Oh, sounds like your family had your back on the donation thing. That’s progress.” And Buck’s like, “Oh no, they thought it was an idiotic decision. They just weren’t gonna let Chimney’s dad have the last word on it.”

Um, so yeah, it wasn’t as perfect as it seems to be at the end. Um, but yeah, B- Buck says that [01:37:00] like it felt like they were a real family and Eddie’s like, “You, you are a real family.”

It’s like, well, I mean, I guess

Ellen: It does seem- Never felt like a family before … it does seem like they’re having some- Yeah … progress at this point, but who knows?

Alice: Um, Hen thinks that Chim needs to speak to his father, and Chim’s like, “But why?” Like, there’s nothing he can say to make amends for a lifetime of ab- absence.

Um, Hen says it’s not about him, what he has to say, it’s about what Chim needs to say, ’cause he hurt him, blah, like repeatedly. Something about 51 minors

Bex: It basically is ch- Chim needs closure for his part. Yeah. He needs to get it off his chest, and Hen brings in her own dead father and says like, “Maybe if I’d had a chance to tell him while he was still, like, conscious and not in a coma what I thought of him maybe I’d feel better about, like, our relationship.” Um, and, and-

Alice: Um, but Chim’s just like, “Eh.”

Ellen: He says it, “I’d be opening up a really old wound, Hen.” Uh, [01:38:00] and it’s like, well, but yeah, you-

Alice: Literally Chim’s doing fine with the Lees and his family. It’s, like it was fine until his father decided to barge in without notice.

Ellen: Yeah, I was like the wound, the wound has already been opened. It just opened yesterday when he showed up. So you could have s-

Alice: Yeah …

Ellen: spoken to him then. But, like, anyway, they were playing happy families instead, so.

Anyway, they arrive at the fire and it, it’s pouring with rain. There is thunder crashing, and Bobby’s like, “Okay, Chimney, Buck, Eddie, get on the ladder and get up there to that window.” And I’m like, “Is this a good idea to stick a ladder up in the air during a thunderstorm? I wonder what’s gonna happen.”

Alice: I’m sure there won’t be any issues with this. No.

Bex: Uh, apparently,

Alice: um- It’ll be fine … ‘

Bex: cause I looked it up. Um, the very first hit that I got when I Googled about using an aerial ladder in a electrical storm was a forum for [01:39:00] firefighters where someone said- … “Hey, do you guys have any actual policies for using the aerial ladder in a storm?”

And pretty much every single response was, “I don’t know if there’s a policy, but we don’t fucking do it.”

Ellen: Yeah, it just makes sense, right? Like…

Bex: One of the posters said, “We had a guy get hit while he was on the top of the ladder. We don’t fuck with storms anymore.”

Alice: I’m sure this will be fine, guys. You’re just you’re panicking over nothing.

Ellen: Yeah.

Alice: Um, Buck’s putting on his harness. He’s ready to go. It- it’ll be fine. It’s just a lightning storm.

Ellen: Yeah, no big deal. Just, just some, you know, heavy rain.

Alice: Chim, Chim actually is like, “Where do you think you’re going? Like, I got this.” And Buck’s like, “No, no, you had the last one.”

Bex: I’m sure Chim’s not gonna regret that conversation at all.

Alice: Mm-hmm. It’ll be fine. Um, Eddie, in totally normal, um- … rude speak, while [01:40:00] clipping the safety rope onto Buck’s harness, smacks him on the ass and says, “Okay, cowboy, go get them.” I’m like, “Sure. Okay.”

Ellen: He totally says… Um- when he said that I was like, “Oh, okay.”

Alice: Okay. So Eddie doesn’t actually smack him on the a- but he actually says, “Okay, cowboy, go get them.”

Ellen: He actually does say, “Cowboy, go get them.”

Alice: Which is a totally normal thing.

Bex: The ass, the ass smack is, the ass smack was for dr- for dramatic purposes. The, the- But yeah, the, “Okay, cowboy, go get them,” is-

Alice: The ass smack was mental. Eddie did it in his brain. Um. But yeah, Buck starts to climb the ladder. It’s totally normal. I’m sure it’ll be fine. Um-

Ellen: It’s totally fine

Alice: … Buck’s just climbing a ladder in a storm. I’m sh- I’m sure he’s not gonna get struck by lightning. He’ll be fine. Um.

Ellen: He gets to the top and-

Bex: Except that he gets to the t-

Ellen: He gets to the top and turns the hose on, and it’s, like, this really pathetic, like, little trickle of water that comes out of it. And I’m like, “Oh, that’s disappointing.” But, [01:41:00] um-

Bex: Not at all a metaphor for, um, Buck and his fire hose. Um, and the last couple of storylines that we’ve had.

Ellen: But, but he can hear, when he’s up there, he can hear this, like, weird sizzling kinda sound, and he’s, like, looking around going, “What is that noise?”

Alice: He’s like, “Bu- I didn’t realize this was a Bunnings. There’s a sausage sizzle happening?”

Ellen: Um, and yeah, he looks up and the raindrops are, like, falling in slow motion. It’s, like, a kind of a cool shot. And-

Bex: Mm …

Ellen: uh, he can hear the electricity ionizing, and a bolt hits him.

Alice: Who saw that coming?

Bex: Who could ever have…

Ellen: Oh my God, I was so surprised. Absolutely not surprised at all.

Bex: Sticking- I’m s- … a giant metal ladder up in the air in the middle of an electrical storm. Who could have foreseen that happening?

Alice: I’m so, like… This mo- I’d seen this moment so many times, that it was just, it was kind of really underwhelming.

Bex: Aw. [01:42:00]

Ellen: Oh, I was, like-

Alice: Like, I, I expected it to be-

Ellen: I thought it was dramatic, very dramatic, but obviously that was coming

Alice: … like the shooting and…

Bex: Well, see, but the thing with the shooting was there was no foreshadowing.

Ellen: No, the shooting was at, was purely out of the blue.

Bex: Whereas this entire episode was foreshadowing.

Ellen: Yeah Where this was all shadow here.

Alice: Um, yeah, this was all like lightning, lightning, lightning. And I’m like, “Jee, I wonder what episode this is.”

Bex: So yes, the lightning hits-

Alice: Um, in fact, the first note for my notes from this episode, the first time I watched it, the first note that is in this thing saying, “Lightning. Is this the one where Buck gets struck?” Yes. Past me, yes it is. Aw. Um, yeah, it just, I … Anyway, um, so yeah.

Bex: See, I, I hadn’t been spoiled for this first time I watched it, so this was a big shock for me when I watched it the first time.

Alice: Yeah, I was gonna say. Did you … Yeah, like, was it actually …

Bex: Yes. Um-

Ellen: You were actually surprised?

Alice: Yeah, cool.

Bex: Yes.

Ellen: Well, that was, that’s good then. At least [01:43:00] somebody was.

Bex: First time I watched it, yes, I was like, “Oh, there’s, there’s lightning coming. It, it’s not gonna hit the … Oh my God, it’s gonna hit the, it’s gonna hit Buck. Like, oh shit, it actually did hit Buck.” Um, so yes, it does hit the ladder. It hits Buck.

Um, it also hits Eddie because he’s standing on the metal platform at the end of the ladder. So Buck goes, like, somersaulting off the top of the ladder, and Eddie gets thrown off the platform. Um, and at this point everything goes into slow motion and sort of everyone is looking up at Buck-

Ellen: It’s, it’s all in and out of slow motion because Eddie is yelling, “Buck’s-“

Bex: Well, no, it goes slow motion, everyone’s sort of looking up at Buck ’cause he’s now like hanging from the end of the, the ladder, and I guess they’re waiting for him to start moving.

Like, “Holy shit, is he okay?” Eddie kind of picks himself up and like makes sure his turnout’s straight and his helmet’s on properly, [01:44:00] and starts to climb back up onto the truck, but then looks up and sees Buck hanging, and as soon as he yells, “Buck,” time speeds up again. Yeah. So Eddie is the catalyst for time in this episode.

Ellen: Oh, again. He always is.

Bex: Yeah.

Ellen: He’s the one who controls the slow motion.

Alice: It’s fine. It’s just a really bro thing. It’s all good.

Ellen: It’s totally a bro thing.

Bex: Um, so yeah, so he sees Buck, time speeds up, and Eddie throws himself at top speed up the ye- up the ladder yelling for Buck the entire time.

Ellen: He yells, “Buck,” at the top of his voice five times. Because I had to go back and count.

Bex: I love that you went back and counted.

Alice: I love that you went back and counted.

Ellen: Um, and he tries to pull Buck back up onto the ladder by the rope that he’s dangling from. Yes. It’s like, okay, this is like a digging in the dirt with your hands kind of moment, but okay.

Bex: Pretty much, yeah.

Ellen: Um, he, so they, they [01:45:00] lower Buck back down to the ground.

Bex: Yeah, so Chim, Chim sees what’s happening, so he climbs up onto the truck again, scales it like a spider monkey, and starts lowering the ladder, which then, um, has the, also has the effect of lengthening the rope holding Buck, so he starts to lower down to Bobby, who’s standing underneath waiting for him.

Um, Hen sprints for the ambulance and backs it up as close to Bobby as she can get without running him over so that they don’t have to carry any equipment. It’s gonna be right there when they get Buck down. Um, Eddie’s just still at the top of the ladder, like feeding the rope down- Yeah … as the ladder is getting lowered.

Like, he’s absolutely not doing anything, but I guess it makes him feel useful, like he’s actually doing something to help Buck at that point.

Ellen: Yeah, he’s stopped yelling at least. Um.

Bex: Yeah.

Ellen: They get him onto a, onto a gurney and everything. Um, don’t know what’s happening with the fire. Fuck those guys, I [01:46:00] guess.

Alice: No. The fire’s been completely abandoned at this point.

Ellen: Yeah.

Bex: Yeah, I think, um- Bobby has, Bobby calls in a mayday for firefighter down, um, asks for additional, um, resources at the fire. The assumption is that the 118 are now offline. They’re not gonna be doing anything with this fire. Everyone else still in the building can burn as far as they’re concerned. Buck has been electrocuted.

Alice: Yeah, yeah.

Bex: Um, what I found really interesting was, um, Chim absolutely loses his fucking mind-

Alice: Yeah …

Bex: in this scene.

Alice: Well, they just had a nice dinner together.

Bex: He, he is… ‘Cause you imagine that, like, Eddie does panic a little bit, um, but Bobby is able to kind of reel him in. But Chim’s like, “Get me a life pack.”

So they get the life pack, but it’s now on the gurney, so it’s in the way of Bo- of getting Buck on the gurney. He’s like, “Get the fucking life pack out of the way. Get the life pack out of the way.” Yeah. Um, then it’s- Um- They discover he doesn’t have a pulse …

Alice: but yeah, Hen, Hen’s like, “We can’t [01:47:00] shock him. He’s in full cardiac arrest.”

Bex: No, no. Like, Hen says, “We don’t have a pulse.” And Chi- and Chim’s like, “Where’s that fucking life pack?” And Hen’s like “We can’t shock him.” He’s like, “Who the hell brought me a life pack? We can’t shock him.”

Ellen: Yeah, he’s, he, he’s having a breakdown.

Bex: But it’s just, there’s this moment where there’s-

Alice: Like Chim’s, yeah, forgotten how, Chim’s forgotten how first aid works. Like, he is losing his mind. Um, he climbs onto Buck-

Bex: He’s in full panic mode

Alice: … and starts doing CPR, which is awful, but-

Bex: Yeah …

Alice: it is what it is. Um- Yeah Bobby’s like, “We- Chim, we have to get him, like, in the ambulance.”

Bex: I’m pretty sure they’ve put people in the ambulance with somebody on top of them before, but that’s fine.

Alice: They have, yeah.

Bex: Um, at this point, Eddie has, like, flown down the ladder and sort of throws himself through the crowd to get to Buck essentially. Um, Bobby doesn’t grab him by the turnout and yank him away, um, but he does say, “No, Eddie, you’re driving.”

Alice: Yeah.

Bex: And thankfully [01:48:00] Eddie’s, um, inbuilt response to follow orders is still functioning, so he hears Bobby say, “You’re driving,” and sort of snaps to attention. He’s like, “Right, yes, I’m driving.”

Alice: I don’t know why I’m … Oh, I’m so annoyed that they made Eddie drive. Like, it should’ve been a repeat of the shooting where Eddie’s, like, in the back with Buck the whole time-

Ellen: Yeah, yelling, yelling at Buck to stay with him …

Bex: Yes. Yeah. It feels like it should. I don’t know if that’s necessarily in character for Eddie though. Or at least not the character that they want Eddie to have.

Alice: Yeah.

Bex: ‘Cause he’s … Like, he’s the Army dude. He’s the one that’s really good under pressure. So it w- we kind of really haven’t seen him fall apart when he’s under pressure. He’s the cool, calm one.

Alice: Yeah.

Bex: Buck’s the one that falls apart. Yeah. Buck’s the one that lets his emotions lead. Eddie, sort of give him a job and he’ll do it.

Alice: Yeah,

Ellen: mm-hmm. [01:49:00]

Bex: So because he got ordered by Bobby to drive, he’s like, “Yes. Okay, I’m gonna drive.” Maybe he also recognizes that Chim and Hen are with Buck, and so he can’t actually contribute to that any further, but he can drive. Yes, personally my, like, with my Buddie makeup on I would have loved to have seen him-

Alice: Yeah, right? I’m just like, “Come on”

Bex: … like absolutely freak the fuck out. But we’re gonna get it later, so it’s fine.

Ellen: Oh.

Alice: It’s also, like, there’s been such- Oh … there’s been, like, no Buddie all, like, all this season, because, you know, real family instead. Let’s keep the boys away from each other. Um, so yeah, this is a nice change of pace, but it’s still not … I just want more.

Bex: Wanted more, yeah.

Alice: Yeah.

Bex: It, it was-

Alice: I want them to do more, Bex. I want them to do more

Bex: … it, it was interesting h- going back and watching this after kind of immersing, watching this scene after sort of immersing myself in the edits and the fanfic and everything, and then actually coming back and watching this scene and going, “Oh, [01:50:00] it’s kind of not as big a deal-“

Alice: No. See, that’s what I mean

Bex: … as everything makes it like to be

Alice: … like when I watched I was like, “Oh.” Yeah.

Bex: Like, it’s meant to be this seminal Buddie moment, but it’s not.

Alice: It’s not. It’s not like the shooting, which is so-

Bex: Yes …

Alice: like-

Ellen: I don’t know, I still felt pretty … pretty, you know, I thought it was there.

Bex: No, no.

Ellen: I haven’t watched all the edits though.

Bex: Oh, no, no, not like, not tension- Not tension wise, but just in like, when Eddie is hurt, Buck absolutely loses his freaking mind.

Alice: Yeah.

Bex: And his emotions are running high and he’s very open with how much he is panicking because Eddie is hurt. But we haven’t seen that kind of reaction from Eddie when Buck is hurt.

Ellen: But he yelled Buck’s name five times as he was scaling the ladder like a-

Alice: Oh, yeah, yeah …

Ellen: spider monkey.

Bex: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Alice: But that’s sort of it. Like, yeah.

Bex: But it’s sort of low-key. It’s the like him yelling Buck’s name. It’s him, like, not letting go of Buck’s hand as they take him, as he’s being crushed by the firetruck.

It’s the little stuff that [01:51:00] you kind of have to look for and read into. It’s not as overt as Buck’s performance. And may- maybe that’s just Eddie’s character. Maybe he doesn’t, like, go for the big displays of emotion.

Alice: Yeah.

Bex: I just, I would like to see it at least once.

Alice: Yeah.

Bex: ‘Cause we know it has, we know he has it in him. We’ve seen him, like, melt down when, like when he dest- when he trashed his room.

Alice: Yeah.

Ellen: Yeah.

Bex: But he just… Like, I want that passion but for Buck.

Alice: Yeah.

Ellen: Aw.

Bex: I’ll scrape the makeup off. Don’t worry. I’m good.

Ellen: No, you don’t, you don’t need to do that.

Alice: Um- Anyway, yeah. So Bo- Bobby calls-

Ellen: I’m with ya.

Alice: … dispatch that they have a firefighter down, struck by lightning, um, unresponsive. They’re three minutes out. Um-

Bex: Not with Eddie driving. He’s gonna get there in a minute and a half.

Ellen: Mm-hmm.

Alice: Um, Buck is put in the back. The door sl- like, back of the ambulance, door slams shut. Eddie floors it, and the camera pans down to Buck’s helmet, [01:52:00] which is just on, like, sitting on the road while thunder’s, thunder and lightning’s happening above.

Ellen: Yeah. Yeah. Very dramatic.

Alice: And poor Ellen has to wait a week for the next episode.

Ellen: Yeah, well, I nearly went right on to the next one, and then I’m like, “No, I better not.” Otherwise I’ll have to watch it again next week so I remember what happened. No, very dramatic, um-

Bex: See, I feel like-

Ellen: … cliffhanger

Bex: … this would’ve been a better, um, mid-season finale.

Ellen: Yeah. Why did they not do this? Yeah, right. I mean, I-

Alice: Like, I don’t give a shit about Wendell. I care about Buck.

Ellen: It must have just been the way that the scheduling worked out that they had to have it last week.

Bex: I don’t know, but I-

Ellen: But this would’ve been far better.

Bex: Yeah. Like, could you imagine, like, they-

Alice: They obviously came up with this during the hiatus …

Ellen: No, they would’ve been planned the whole time.

Bex: Yeah, probably. I just-

Ellen: Surely. But-

Alice: No

Ellen: … uh, but, like, this happens and then you have to wait, like, three months for the like-

Bex: Yes

Ellen: … that’s harsh.

Bex: Yes.

Alice: Yeah.

Bex: Very harsh, but very effective. Especially if you [01:53:00] tell Oliver he can’t go on social media for three months to, like, make everyone think that something had actually happened to Buck.

Alice: Oh my God, right.

Bex: And it’s doubtful if Oliver is coming back next season.

Ellen: It’s like when, oh, at the end of, like, season, I wanna say 12 of Supernatural, when Cas, like, uh, like I’m, I’m spoiling this, like, he died, and and everyone was like-

Alice: What?

Ellen: … freaking the fuck out.

Bex: It’s been how many years, I think?

Ellen: It’s been a lot of years now. And, um, and then one of them let, let it slip over the hiatus in a, at a con that he was c- he was back, like, in the next season. And so everyone’s like, “Wait, wait a minute. Like, he’s, he’s, he’s gonna be okay?” And they’re like, “Oh, yeah, I wasn’t supposed to say that.” But it’s like it, it… And we were all trying to work out whether it was because they’d seen that the fandom was freaking out, and so they allowed someone to say something, or if he ac- if, I think it was Jared, he just actually said it [01:54:00] accidentally, and then everyone, “Oh, well, at least you know now,” you know?

But, oh.

Bex: Yeah, I think it’s more the second.

Ellen: What a time.

Bex: ‘Cause the, the way that the, the networks were acting with Misha and Cas, they wouldn’t give a fuck. They killed him off so many times.

Ellen: Yeah God, I just, the rem- one of my friends was freaking out so hard on that that, that, that she was like refusing to watch it anymore. She was like, “That’s it, I’m done with this stupid show. They keep killing everyone off and I, I can’t deal with it anymore.” We’re like, “It’s gonna be okay.” Ugh. Anyway.

Bex: Until it wasn’t.

Ellen: Yes, let’s not go down that salty path again.

But no, I’m glad this, this, people only had to wait a week to find out what happened to Buck in this instance. And at least now we know he’s gonna be okay because we’ve got several more seasons to go and he’s he’s still around, so. The stakes are not high.

Alice: Is he though? Yes. Or is it all just a dream? [01:55:00] Hmm.

Ellen: Hmm. Hmm.

Bex: That’s a good segue.

Ellen: Yes. Well, in, in that case, do tell me what’s happening next week.

Bex: Uh, in the next week Buck dreams of a world in which he never became a firefighter.

Ellen: Okay.

Bex: We have dream episode next week.

Ellen: Interesting.

Bex: I’m assuming it’s some kind of coma dream.

Ellen: Yeah.

Bex: Um, yeah, that- that’s all she wrote.

Ellen: Okay.

Bex: So triggers for episode 11 include discussion of addiction and drug use, discussions of domestic violence, flashbacks to past traumas, including but not limited to crush injuries, domestic violence, drowning, plane crashes, rescuing from plane crash.

Ellen: Are we get-

Bex: Basically-

Ellen: Are we getting-

Bex: … Buck’s greatest hits

Ellen: Doug back again? I hate that guy. I mean, not … His actor is in, still in the picture obviously because it’s- It’s, um, Maddie’s husband, [01:56:00] real-life husband. Yeah, okay.

Bex: Um, I will not confirm nor deny, but take from the trigger warnings w- as what you will.

Ellen: Yeah.

Bex: Um, we have a major character injured/at threat and a, uh, depictions of a medically induced coma.

Ellen: Okay. Well, that sounds awesome and I, now I wish I had gone on to the next episode because that sounds like a lot of fun. I mean, not, not a lot of fun ’cause there’s there’s still obviously Maddie’s, um-

Bex: It’s-

Ellen: … trauma storyline going on

Bex: … like I said, it’s, it’s not a lot of fun, but it’s also a lot of fun ’cause it’s a, it’s a-

Ellen: It’s a dream, yeah

Bex: it’s different.

Ellen: Yeah.

Bex: Yeah. It’s a different type of episode than we’ve seen from the show so far.

Ellen: Hmm.

Bex: And it’s really cool the way that they do it.

Ellen: You know, you said this season was terrible and, like, so far it’s actually been all right.

Bex: Look, [01:57:00] the-

Alice: Has it though?

Bex: The lightning strike and next week’s episode are the highlights for me, and I think the episode after that. Although not the entire episode, just like one or two scenes are kind of the highlight, and then it goes like super downhill.

Ellen: Okay.

Alice: Yeah, I like that you’re like, “Oh, it’s, it hasn’t been that bad,” when our episodes and have been like two minutes long because there’s nothing to talk about. Because the episode’s been so shit.

Ellen: Yeah, that’s true. There has been some downsides to this season, but, um, on the overall it hasn’t been as bad as I was expecting, so.

Bex: Well, that’s good. ‘Cause I always do worry when, um, you know, Alice and I are extremely salty about stuff that we are perhaps going to spoil your experience.

Ellen: Aw.

Bex: Um, which we don’t mean to do, we just really fucking hate some of these episodes.

Alice: Yeah.

Ellen: Uh, it’s also interesting to see how like, because I’m not, I’m trying to stay away from like the, um, [01:58:00] the, the, the popular opinions on these things. Like, I don’t, I haven’t looked at any Tumblr relating to this or anything. It’s just what I happen to be spoiled about if I go on social media. So I don’t have the preconceived ideas about things.

Bex: Yeah. That’s-

Ellen: So, yeah

Bex: … that’s good.

Ellen: So yeah, maybe after, after we’re all done with it and I can go and look at stuff, then I’ll be like, “Oh my God, this season sucked. It was…”

It might happen.

Bex: Right. Like I said, we’re only halfway through the season. We’ve still got a lot of episodes to go. Yeah. Your opinion may change.

Ellen: Fair enough.

Bex: Or we might get to the end of the season and you’re like, “That wasn’t so bad.”

Ellen: Yeah.

Bex: Like, “I don’t know what you guys are talking about. I really liked that season.” And we’re like, “Uh-huh. Okay, let’s press play on season seven.” Yeah. See what you think after that one.

Alice: Yep. That’s it.

Ellen: Yeah, I mean, this episode was, it had its, like, [01:59:00] stupid moments, but, like, overall the, the tension and the way that it was put together was actually pretty good, right?

Bex: Yes. Uh, pregnancy storyline aside, um, it was a, a well-crafted story.

It doesn’t mean that it was the most original storyline in the world or that it was the … Like, I know we, we said that it was inc- like the, the foreshadowing’s incredibly obvious, the storyline that it was leading to was incredibly obvious. That doesn’t make it bad. That just means that it’s a story that we have seen before, and so we’re able to predict what happens. But there was still an actual narrative flow and a structure to the story-

Ellen: Yeah …

Bex: that was entertaining.

Ellen: It wasn’t even that we’d seen something like this before. It was more like every line of dialogue and thing was pointing to lightning, and-

Bex: Oh, yeah. No, not, not that, not that we had seen this specific storyline before, but we’re media literate [02:00:00] enough that we were able to recognize the pattern that were- Oh, yeah

creating with the, the lightning and the dialogue and the storylines and where it was pointing.

Ellen: Yeah, well, it was, it was good enough that I could switch m- my brain off and enjoy things.

Bex: Yeah.

Ellen: As I was watching, I wasn’t getting too hung up-

Bex: Yes

Ellen: … on any, any one thing, so.

Bex: That’s, that’s, uh … Like we’ve said previously and we’ll probably continue to say, as long as you’re telling a good story and you get us invested, we will be willing to buy all manner of stupidity in the-

Alice: Yeah

Bex: the details.

Alice: Exactly.

Ellen: Yeah.

Bex: It’s when you’re not telling a good story that we start getting hung up on the details and we stop having a good time.

Ellen: All right. Uh, well, please tell us what you thought about this episode. Do you agree with us in … Well, we’re either, like, panning episodes or saying they weren’t s- weren’t so bad.

So in this case, it was on the upper end of the scale, I guess. But, um, please tell, tell us what you thought about it. Uh, [02:01:00] you can do that in the usual ways. Leave us a comment, uh, or y- you can s- like, ping us on social media. We’d love to hear from you. Why do I keep making this up every week? I should just write a script and stick to it.

Thank you for listening this week, and we’ll talk to you next time about episode 11, which is called “In Another Life”. See you then.

Bex: Bye.

Alice: Bye.

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Alice: We started watching Ted Lasso this week and we finished the first season-

Bex: Oh, yes

Alice: … in two d- two nights. It’s so good. Um, yeah, hence the shortbread.

Bex: Yes …

Alice: but yes. We, like, I put it on because I, like as I said literally a week ago, it’s on my list, I just haven’t watched it. And Shareen was like, “Oh, I really wanna watch something just, like, wholesome and, like, something I don’t have to concentrate on,” ’cause, like, we’ve got puppies. Um, and so I was like, “All right, I’ll put this on.”

Bex: That’s definitely Ted Lasso.

Alice: She’s like, “I don’t wanna watch anything with soccer.” And I’m like, “Too bad. I wanna watch this. If you don’t like it, we can stop, but let’s at least watch the first episode.”

Bex: But it’s, it’s like Heated Rivalry. It’s not, it’s not about soccer, it’s about the team.

Alice: Nope, that’s it.

Bex: It just happens to be soccer.

Alice: Um, so the accent started, and she’s like, “I can’t deal with the accent. Like, I’m hoping he assimilates.”

Bex: Whose accent? His accent?

Alice: Ted’s. Yeah.

Bex: Ted’s accent. Okay.

Alice: Um, she’s like, “I hope he assimilates soon because I [02:03:00] can’t deal with this accent.”

Bex: No.

Alice: And I’m like, “Give it a chance. Like, we’re watching the first couple episodes, you’ll deal with it.” I think it was, like, halfway through episode two she’s just like, “Goddammit, I really like this guy.” I’m like, “Good.” Um,

Bex: Ellen, just to… In case you haven’t seen any of the clips, Jason Sudeikis puts on, like, a really, um- It’s so, like- It’s, it’s a very broad Southern accent. It’s not his normal speaking voice.

Alice: Yeah, it’s like Kansas, right? Yeah, like it’s-

Bex: Yeah, he, he’s meant to be, like, from one of the flyover states.

Alice: Yeah.

Bex: Um, and it’s very, very obvious when everyone else around him is, has variety of different English accents.

Alice: Is British.

Bex: Yeah.

Alice: But yeah, she was hooked, and then tonight I obviously had to come home to record.

And so I was like, “Okay, like, I have to eat and then I have to go home.” And she’s just like, “What time do you have to leave?” And I’m like, “Not till 7:30.” And she’s like, “Good, ’cause I wanted to watch an episode,” ’cause we finished the first season last night. Yay. She’s like, “Good, ’cause I wanted to watch an episode of Ted Lasso.“

And I’m like, “Yeah, I can do an episode while we eat.” [02:04:00] So we watched it, and then I, like the next one started playing and so I turned it off, and she’s like, “No, I’m gonna watch the next one.” I’m like, “You can’t watch it without me.” And she’s like, “Just watch it at home.” And I’m like, “When am I gonna have a chance to watch it at home? I’m here all the time.”

Oh, so I literally, like, stole the remote off her and turned it off and she’s like, “Well now you have to find me something else wholesome to watch.” So now I have to find something that she can watch that I’ve seen-

Bex: That you don’t want to watch …

Alice: that, yeah, like that she can watch without me. But oh my God.

‘Cause I, I start back at work tomorrow so, um-

Bex: But it’s, it’s

Alice: so good, isn’t it? So I won’t be there 24/7. Oh yeah, loving it. Like, I knew that I would because it’s, um… Oh my God, maybe I should’ve put Cougar Town on for her. Um, ’cause yeah, ’cause it’s Bill Lawsen. Uh, no. Yes?

Bex: Yes.

Alice: Lawrence. Bill Lawrence. Yeah, Bill Lawrence, there you go. Um, it’s Bill Lawrence, and I like everything that Bill Lawrence does, so.

Bex: Yep … [02:05:00]

Alice: but yeah, it was just funny. ‘Cause literally two nights to… And like, it’s not like we’re just sitting. Like, we have dogs to deal with, and we still managed to binge the entire thing in two nights.

Ellen: I’m gonna have to watch it.

Alice: We were up till after midnight watching it.

Bex: To be fair, it, that’s what? 10 episodes in the season. They’re 20 minutes each. It’s super easy to binge.

Alice: It’s so easy to binge.

Bex: Anyway, back in Los Angeles, the 118. Sorry.